he wants some reply time. we'll give it to him tomorrow on the factor. thanks for watching me tonight. i am bill o'reilly. the spin stops here. we're definitely looking out for you. >> sean: welcome to "hannity." breaking news about the boston bomber. the reality that the older of the two brothers exhibited many signs of radicalization is becoming more evident. the f.b.i. told lawmakers the suspects' mother new possibly as early as 2011 that her older son had been radicalized, reportedly telling other family members in text messages that she felt he was willing to die for islam. we're also learning that the younger brother told the f.b.i. that his older brother was in fact the mastermind of the plot and that he was only recently recruited to help him carry out the plan. but as investigators piece together their case, the parents held a dramatic press conference where the mother delivered these

single most bizarre comments to date and watch as she says that her sons are actually innocent and then goes on to blame the united states of america. >> after your conversations with the american officials, do you now accept that it was your children who carried out the attacks in boston? >> no. i don't. and i won't. never. why did i even go there? why? i thought our kids going to be safe. for any reason it happened. only america. my kids were not involved in

this. >> did you notice any changes in them? >> no. we should see the changing, right? any change, whatever is there, we should feel it. i should feel it. they already want me, him and all of us to look. >> who has been saying that? >> i don't know. where is the trust? you're from america. >> it gets stranger in other interviews she's quoted as saying that the bombing was actually staged and that the blood of the scene was nothing more than paint. wow. here with reaction to these bizarre comments from act for america and michael gus from the america together foundation. brie jet, i go to this, we learned the f.b.i. purged the training manuals for their agents to remove any references

to radical jihaddists. we can't fight a war on terror against these radicals if, in fact, we're not willing to identify them. the second thing, nome did russia warn us, the c.i.a. warned us, the f.b.i. knew about the guy. they interviewed the guy. yet he has an entire youtube channel dedicated to radicalism. there is something wrong. we have an unwillingness in this country to identify radical islamic jihad and it starts with the president. you were in a muslim country. why is there this fear to identify radicals for who they are? >> there is a huge fear and by the way, i was in a christian country which was taken over by muslims. it's not fear. it's willful blindness and that goes from the top down starting with president obama, who as soon as he became president, he changed the threat assessment plan to purge out and take out any language related to radical islamic, islamic terrorism.

what that led to, sean, is the blind leading the blind because our new agents of the f.b.i., who are not trained to identity the ideology that is driving the jihaddists to commit terrorist attacks like this. now our agents are supposed to protect us, do not really know what they're looking for. they're running in circles. they are politically correct. they are afraid to say anything, those who get it, lest they are afraid to be fired, and discharged without honor from their service, and that's why it's costing our country. not only lives, but we have become the mockery of the islamic world who laughs at us because our enemy knows we are blind and we are choosing our blindness and burying our head in the sand. >> sean: i can't say it any better. mike, you are a muslim. but you're moderate. you've spoken out against radicalism. i give you all the credit for that. here is the problem: you do not recognize what i too and i think

what she believes. everyone is saying moderate. the moderates and whatever numbers they arei can't give you exact numbers, nobody can -- they are intimidated into silence. they will not say that our religion is being hijacked. why don't more moderates like yourself come out and speak out loudly against radicalism? >> sean, thank you very much. they are doing it, but not enough people. i think you are giving your venue for me to speak out. if more television stations and radio stations give an opportunity, we can build a momentum. just today, i was able to put together 50 muslims from across america who are willing to speak out each time something like this happens, they're willing to speak out strongly -- >> sean: think about in egypt. i warned you the muslim brotherhood was going to happen. it did happen. and they are enemies of israel

and we're stupid enough to provide them f 16s and tanks and money which i think is insane. but you see the rise of radicalism evewhere. it's now happening all over africa, all overt middle east. >> i want to go back to what bridget said. obama is doing one thing right, not calling everybody a muslim a radical a radical islam. that is the right thing. let me give you an example. there are 2700 rapes in new york in 2010. and 800 mothers. if i tell you guys from new york are murderers and rapists, is that the right thing to do? no. that's wrong. >> sean: the difference is the radical islamic groups, they want to wipe israel off the map. they are anti-semitic. they are anti-american. and they are clear in their goal. they want a world wide fate and willing to sacrifice their own children and present a false ward of 72 virgins, bridget.

>> yes, they are. and we are seeing the rise of radicals within our own country. the last four years since president obama became president, we have arrested on american soil 226 home-grown terrorists. 186 of them are muslims. we have a problem in this country when a faith-based group that accounts for less than 2% of the american population is responsible for over 80% of terrorist attacks or blood against the united states. that's a problem. by the way, the terror watch list -- >> sean: do we have to consider that if somebody grows up under sharia law that maybe they have been indoctrinated into values that are so contrary to american values that maybe they're not a good fit to come into this country? maybe especially in the treatment of women, the belief in sharia law as implemented in a lot of these countries. what to you think? >> sean, there is a real problem among the muslims and those christian immigrants to the

united states. their children lead two lives. one to show it off to the parents. one their own life in schools. this in the children is causing a lot of pain. this guy, dzhokhar, i think to his mother, he was probably acting as a good child. but outside, he was different. his mother really did not know what was going on. >> sean: the mother did know. that's not true. and then we're stupid enough when we do catch them -- >> his mother knew. >> sean: we read miranda rights so he can shut up and we don't learn anything about maybe where the money came, any foreign ties, any terrorist cells, sleeper cells that may be here in america. it's nuts. we're walking on egg shells because i think people are afraid to speak the truth and the truth is radical islamic jihaddists want to kill us and their numbers are far greater than people want to admit. >> absolutely. it's 540,000 people. that nus a minority.

over half a million people are on the government's watch list. that's a major problem. we need to throw political correctness in the garbage where it belongs and start calling a spade a spade. >> sean: last word, michael. >> sean, i think in the end, there is radicalism among muslims and we need to speak out and we are speaking. if you google it, there is plenty of it out there. >> sean: thank you for being with us. >> i'm sick of these people as anybody else. >> sean: and thank you both. coming up right here next on "hannity." >> we don't know if we would have been able to stop the terrorists had they arrived here from boston. we just are thankful we didn't have to find out that answer. >> sean: we have breaking news in the boston bombing investigation, including new information on the suspects' plans to target times square in new york city. also governor patrick says he will not release details of the brothers' welfare benefits. why is that? because he says he doesn't want to invade the poor terrorists' privacy? we'll have that outrageous decision debate coming up

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>> sean: today we were seeing confirmation that the boston bombing suspects were not done trying to hurt and kill innocent americans. their next target we found out was new york city. here is nanny mayor of new york, michael bloomberg, revealing the disturbing news earlier today. >> we were informed by the f.b.i. that the surviving attacker revealed that new york city was next on their list of targets. he told the f.b.i. apparently

that he and his brother had intended to drive to new york and designate additional explosives in times square. they had built these additional explosives and we know they had the capacity to carry out the attacks. the investments that we made in counterterrorism operations, technology and intelligence help reduce the important of a successful terrorist strike, but they certainly do not eliminate it. nothing can do that. we don't know if we would have been able to stop the terrorists had they arrived here from boston. we just are thankful we didn't have to find out that answer. >> sean: it's not all new york city police commissioner ray kelly revealed that the second suspect was photographed with his friends in times square in new york city last april and that he was in the big apple again in november. as we learn more about the suspect's intentions, one pressing question remains. what else? were there other targets? unfortunately, we may never know because according to reports, the second suspect's interrogation, get this, it was shut down after only 16 hours.

at that point a judge and a representative from the u.s. attorney's office interrupted this important interrogation. why? he had to get read his miranda rights. guess what? immediately he stopped talking. there is more disturbing details surrounding the suspects. according to the boston herald, massachusetts governor, quote, clamped down the lid yesterday on the herald's request for details of the suspects number one's government benefits, citing the dead terror mastermind, get this, right to privacy. pretty unbelievable. here with reaction, news editor for townhall.com, katy, also with breitbart, right? >> no. town hall. >> sean: i can't keep up with you. and former advisor to prince harry reid. we agree on deval patrick, the right to privacy? what about the right to people to maintain their lives and their limbs and legs?

>> i think what these two individuals did was disgusting and what they engage in was a mastermind of terror. i think that they should be punished accordingly. but i do agree with the governor in being able to deny a newspaper that right -- >> sean: why? no. >> turning it over to the government -- >> sean: we're going to learn everything about you. >> i understand. and actually for once i agree with george will, what he wrote in the "washington post" that we have to tread carefully. i know i'm not going to be the most popular person here trying to defend civil liberties. but the one -- >> sean: wait a minute. so you support mir ran did -- hang on a second. this guy mightandaizeing. mean about foreign influence, sources of money, future attacks. we have the guilt or innocence, it's not an issue. so we're going to shut down any interrogation of this guy and that means whatever attacks are on the books, they go forward. you can live with that? >> i can live with the fact that

they allowed him to be -- >> sean: for the legs blowing off? >> they allowed to be interrogated and once the public interest was on the decline -- >> sean: an eight-year-old kid? >> that we will be able to determine and find the necessary information to put this man away. i absolutely believe that. >> on the welfare aspect of governor patrick shutting that down for the sake of privacy right, i think everyone on welfare should be public information 'cause we're paying for it, especially when it comes to terrorists. the reason why he's doing this in the name of privacy isn't because of privacy. >> sean: cya. >> the left is never willing to admit that all of these systems failed. the systems fail, whether it's immigration, education system, any of that has failed when it comes it jihaddists coming to this country, whether it's the 9-11 bombers or these guys in massachusetts. >> sean: that is outrageous. but the fact that we don't make this guy talk means we are

putting americans' lives in jeopardy and i am sick and tired of this notion that he deserves his miranda rights when he may have information that americans lives are in jeopardy. >> mayor randa rights in an exhibit. the day he was arrested. he had his miranda rights. that was never denied. >> sean: we can still interrogate him. he can file for habeas and get it in 30 days. but he has knowledge of a pending attack, don't we as citizens also have the right not to have our legs blown off or our children killed? >> absolutely. and that is what they will be going on to do. they will be able to try to -- work to find that determination. and i agree that that first part was critical, as we saw, that he was -- >> sean: he shut down. >> there are rules and there are constitutions. >> sean: rules. you know what? there is no rules when you're at war. this is the difference. if you think is criminal or you think it's an act of war. i think it's an act of war. >> it is an act of war and we've been hearing from the

administration that these types of cases have been prosecuted successfully in civilian court. we want to go back to the case of the bombing in kenya when they only got him on one count. >> sean: andy could prosecute him. >> this idea that we need to be treating these as criminal cases instead of at war cases has been a problem since the obama administration came in. and we've seen the c.i.a. get prosecuted further for waterboarding and getting information we needed to prevent these attacks. >> sean: that's how we got bin laden. >> exactly. wow, the administration doesn't want us to do that now. they're willing to give this guy his miranda rights. >> sean: anything he says cannot be used. >> that's not true. >> sean: wait a minute. >> that's not true. while he was in the hospital, anything that he said during that time can be used and will be used. >> sean: it's very likely that -- we have to assume a judge would throw that out. >> you can't assume that, sean. >> sean: we don't need that information for the criminal trial.

but in the meantime, american cities are potential targets and we discovered new york city, times square, one of the most heavily populated areas in new york city, that was their next target. >> you found out while -- >> i believe in our law enforcement that we have. i believed in the law enforcement that we have. >> sean: you are driving me up a wall! >> no. look, we have a law enforcement that was able to find him. >> a civilian called in. >> they got up. they did their big press conference and they all patted each other on the back for ten minutes and guess what? they were still minutes away. a civilian called in and said there is a guy in my boat while 9,000 cops missed him. all due respect to the police officers, but it was a civilian tip. >> sean: c.i.a. was warned. we have got big problems. >> it was a civilian calling in the tip. but back to the -- >> sean: real quick. >> the systems, look, this was a guy, both of these bombers were part of a family who was claiming refuge when they were

going back and forth between one of the most radical areas of russia and the system failed because they didn't check up on it. it's an issue of system failure and refusal to acknowledge this an islamic problem and following up on those. >> sean: i'm giving you the last word because i agree you and she's making me angry. that's why. >> thanks. >> sean: thank you both. just kidding, penny. coming up, is the man who staged a filibuster is he against president obama's drone policy? senator rand paul will join us coming up next and then tonight -- >> if you got obama? >> yes, everybody in cleveland, all minority got obama phone. >> sean: remember the obama phone lady? we've got some news for her, an update on free obama phones coming up later in the show. and then also later, a special edition of media mash as we expose one morning nbc news anchor, he claims to be a conservative. he's nothing but a suck-up

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>> sean: the manhunt in boston unfolded and as residents remained in their homes while two men threatened their safety ask security, the issue of drone use made headlines. some asked, should drones have been used during that manhunt and would lethal force by drones on those american citizens have been appropriate? the man who just last month staged a 13-hour filibuster to protest the administration's drone strike policy was all of a sudden issuing an exception to his stance. senator rand paul told my good friend neil cavuto. >> if someone comes out of a liquor store with a weapon and

$50 in cash, i don't care if a drone or policeman kills him. we shouldn't be willie nilly looking into everyone's backyard and what they're doing. but if there is a killer on the loose in a neighborhood, i'm not against drones being used to search them out, heat seeking devices being used. i'm all for law enforcement. i'm just not for surveillance when there is not probable cause that a crime is being committed. >> sean: so is senator rand paul changed his position? he joins us right now. welcome back. >> well, welcome to you, sean. but i didn't change my position. it's exactly the same position i expressed during the 13-hour filibuster. >> sean: you mean i missed it? >> well, in the famous words of george w. bush, i think i was misunderestimated. if you watch my debate for 13 hours, which i don't think many people did, i used the exact same example of the liquor store in my 13-hour debate. i said over and over again, for example, i also used the

hypothetical, if the twin towers are being attacked, that's deadly force being used against america and americans, there is the right to defend ourselves with deadly force. if someone is engaged -- >> sean: what does that mean? does that mean in the middle of this that the police could have called up a drone strike -- you're saying we should have drone in major cities available if such an incident like this occurs? >> no. i think people misinterpret what we're talking about here. if there is an active gun fight going on and you were shooting at the police and you're robbing a liquor store, the police have the ability and they have a justified obligation to fire back. the type of technology doesn't really matter. for example, if we were opposed to technology, we might be opposed to a drone or a robot that might dismantle a bomb. a drone is a type of technology. i've been against the abuse of the bill of rights, but never said i was against any kind of

technology. do i want drones flying over getting involved in normal crime sequences? no. but i could imagine a time where a policeman is being shot at in his car and they have the ability to push a button in the car and a small robotic weapon is able to elevate and shoot back at a criminal. so what you call a drone doesn't have to be from 50,000 feet. it could be simply in the neighborhood and part of a car. >> sean: it could be a helicopter, for example, right? >> well, in the heated pursuit of someone who is shooting at the police or shooting at civilians, it doesn't matter what kind of technology it is, but it does matter whether or not there is a heated pursuit and whether or not there is an engagement of a gun fight and whether they're a threat to the policeman. that's what the doctrine is. the thing is i'm against targeted killings by drones, but also against targeted killing by sniper, by spear, by knife, by club. the technology isn't so important. what i was arguing at the filibuster was targeted

assassination. >> sean: by the way, and i told you this the other day, i took great personal satisfaction that your dad's supporters were coming after you like they were throwing snow balls at me a few years back when he was running for president. but i think i understand where their criticism is coming from and i think it may be something we all agree on. i think the reason that many of us as conservatives are very leery when it comes to government using drones, we don't trust the government. i don't trust the government -- the government can't control our border. they don't want to and they haven't shown a willing tons do it. whether or not they use technology right i think is a legitimate concern that a lot of conservatives, including myself, civil libertarians have. >> and you're talking to the senator who is the most concerned about privacy, the most concerned about your civil liberties, and the most concerned about restricting the use of this kind of technology. that's what i think is a little

bit unfair is that you get these left wing blogs out there trying to promote something and say i changed my position. even in your introduction, you're insinuating i changed it. it's exactly the same. you can look at the footage of my fill buster and it's exactly what i'm saying now. >> sean: that's fair. let me ask you this: i want to play for you something that harry reid said because you're trying to work with marco rubio. i understand you met with him i think yesterday to talk about your trust but verify provision that you want added to the immigration bill. one of the problems i think that senator rubio is having is that many americans, myself included -- don't believe the government is capable of controlling the border first. even two-thirds of democrats, fox poll came out today, they want the border control first. but how do you possibly negotiate with democrats, like the president, who demagogues and like harry reid who said this yesterday? >> most the headlines are focused on the hours the

sequester cost drivers in airport. the economic effects should not be minimized. but the sequester could also cost the country and humankind a cure for aids, parkinson's disease, or cancer. these arbitrary cuts decimated cutting for medical researchers, seeking cures for diabetes, epilepsy, hundreds of other dangerous and debilitating diseases. >> sean: republicans want to kill granny, want dirty air and water and by the way, don't want to help cure diseases. you and i know we're spending more money this year than last year. that's just a lie what he says. but this is -- these are the people you have to negotiate with. >> well, you know, immigration needs to be fixed. i am for immigration reform. but as a conservative, i want to fix the border first. i've always been for securing the border first. and so my amendment will do exactly that. trust but verify will say the border has to be secured and then the immigration reform

begins, and to insure that the border actually is secure, we got to vote on it. the president doesn't get to stamp it with his approval. it has to be voted on by your representatives every year to insure the border is becoming increasingly secure. only in that fashion will i think you get the support of conservatives for immigration reform. >> sean: all right. rand paul thanks so much. we'll continue to follow it. we'll watch closely and we'll see if the boston marathon terrorist attack has an impact on the debate. appreciate you being with us. >> thank you. >> sean: coming up next, brett bozelle is back with a special edition of media mash. we'll call out a phony, so-called conservative at nbc news and reveal why he's nothing more than a obama lover. and later, he was considered as president obama's next treasury secretary. tonight eric schmidt, the executive chairman of google, will be my guest here and also don't forget the obama phone lady is back. we've got the issues. don't forget, log on to our

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to the new nbc joe. let's go back and look at the present joe. >> break through the bs here. this is not for the nra about second amendment rights. this is about gun manufacturers making millions and millions and millions of dollars, it's about retailers making millions and millions and millions of dollars. do you know how much money these people have made over the slaughter of 20 innocents in newtown? do you know how much richer these rich gun manufacturers have gotten over the past month? and how the nra uses that tragedy to gin up fears and web sites use that tragedy to gin up fears that they're coming to take your guns away? >> sean: all right. what's your gut reaction because we have joe back in his congressman days, now he's doing the liberal morning joe show and he's the nbc version of what a, quote, conservative is. what do you make of that?

>> well, i think there are two issues going on here. one is if you take that position, close your eyes, that's chris matthew, al sharpton, that's the most radical of the radical left position that the nra is going on and hoping people will die so they can make money off of it. that's the kind of occupy wall street language that you hear out there. it is radical kook stuff. that is joe scarborough in his own words. but the second thing is that it is a complete reversal of what joe scarborough made himself famous on and it is a complete reversal on what he still maintains he is, which is a republican in good standing. >> sean: let me play now what he's saying about republicans ripping them for not supporting gun control, then we're going to look at the old joe scarborough. this is the morning liberal joe, nbc's version, the establishment loving joe scarborough. >> i can't believe that republicans, first of all, aren't going to support it. but secondly, won't let

background checks against rapists, people who have committed manslaughter in the past, people with mental illness, dangerous mental illness, i can't believe those republicans are going to allow the entire republican party to be the party that basically put rapists' rights over parents' rights. you do not ignore when 90% of the american people on an issue of public safety. you don't do it. they did it yesterday. and i've got to say, mark it down. this is going to be a turning point in the history of the republican party as well. >> sean: let's butt that against what joe scarborough in the course he's running in a conservative district in the panhandle of little old florida, had a very different position. let's put some of it on the screen. the questionnaire, he said the nra must elect and support candidates who will view the gun rights issue as a constitutional battle. the founding fathers did not give us the second amendment to protect our rights to shoot

ducks. our constitutional right to bear arms, so we may protect our family in the manner we choose. no compromise. and by the way, he felt the same way about assault weapons. so he would argue i changed after newtown. i would argue that he wants to be loved by the establishment and joe scarborough is no conservative as he's portrayed. >> yeah. but look, sean, you can change your mind. that's perfectly fine. but if you listen to the words in that last clip, that was a personal attack. that was barak obama, joe biden, harry reid. that was bomb throwing of the worst rhetorical kind and personal insults. now, he's aiming them against people who supported exactly what he supported. you can have a difference of opinion, but you don't have to go radical left. he's gone radical left. fine. but joe, please, my buddy, never call yourself a conservative again. >> sean: he's going to because -- and he impugnes the character of everyone else. he said about cpac is about ager

and hate. we've got the tape of that. let's roll this tape of, yes, the morning liberal show. >> so many of those people are shams. they're not true conservatives. we can see it now. they don't care about winning. they care about hate, ventment, selling books, talk radio, things that at the end keep us out of the white house for another -- >> there is a game going on. >> sean: what a cute couple. >> i'm going to let new on a little secret you didn't know. he is so jealous of you and he's so jealous of rush limbaugh and so jealous of mark levin. look at those gratuitous attacks against talk radio. let me tell you something, he and his sidekick announced that they were going to take a brief three-week hiatus from their radio show. do you know when that was? >> sean: when was that? they had a radio show? >> 394 days ago. >> sean: here is my thought.

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>> sean: welcome back to "hannity." while the focus of the nation was on boston last week, lawmakers in the house passed what is called the cyber intelligence sharing and protection act. the bill would essentially allow companies across the internet to share the private information of their consumers with the federal government. opponents of this measure say it is an invasion of privacy by the government. luckily the legislation is being met with fierce resistance in the senate and may not be taken up. but it does raise many concerns about another overreaching step by the federal government. joining me with reaction, two men who know about the internet. authors, reshaping the people of nations people and business, the executive chair of google, eric schmidt. what is ideas director, jared cone. how are you? it's an honor to meet you. i'm going to overlook the fact that you were on obama's transition team.

you raised millions for him, donated millions and i'm going to forget that. i don't understand as a businessman, one question on this: as a business guy, obama and his class warfare rhetoric, does that not bother you? >> i personally believe that you needed a government that reflects everybody and the fact of the matter is, neither political party is doing a particularly good job of getting our country going again. >> sean: you supported him. >> i did. >> sean: he, to me, and by the way, you're a republican. you're a conservative. i like you better. [ laughter ] obama, tomorrow, because i love google. i love your story. i think it's an inspiration for a lot of people. i find his 1%, fair share, skin in the game, patriotic duty -- >> contrast that with a strong r and d commitment, trying to get math and education stronger. these things matter. >> sean: like stimulus money?

>> no. >> sean: 'cause i just think if -- i know you came under criticism. i actually thought it was smart that you make smart business decisions and you have corporations, companies world wide and go to where the tax benefits with beneficial. >> it's call being a capitalist. >> sean: you recently went to -- you would disagree with your boss, right? you going to have the courage to say it? >> we'll get into it a little bit. >> let's say he worked for the bush administration. >> sean: i know. you worked with condy rice. one thing about the internet that fascinates me, i love the fact that i can pull up your name as i did before this interview and get a host of information. you were recently in burma. you were recently in north korea. you believe and this book goes into detail how this can advance humankind in a lot of ways, but yet these governments are resistant to allowing the internet into the countries. >> remember, we're in a shift in

empowerment. we're adding another 5 billion people to this on-line conversation. that's great for medicine, for education, for commerce. it makes the world a safer place. getting these people educated means a safer america. the problem if you're a dictator is getting them educated gives them choices, they're going to overthrow you and so forth. so the dictators are fighting this. in burma now, they decided to open it up. so we'll see how well they get through this transition. in north korea where we both were, i don't know that they're going to open it up or not 'cause they understand if it shows up, people will discover how corrupt the regime is. >> sean: you think the arab spring, either one of you can jump in, i'm not ignoring you -- the arab spring you think ten years from now, that the internet impact of what happened there will work out in a more positive way. the polls before mubarak was out of power showed that about 78% of the population wanted sharia law.

why do you think the internet would impact the views of the culture there? >> i was in egypt the day of the revolution and one of the most startling things was you talk to young people on the street and you ask them why the there, many of them said, i wasn't politically involved and then mubarak shut down the internet and mobile phones and made this relevant to me. that's an aside. but the point is, when we look at egypt and the arab spring countries, one of the conclusions we come to is that revolutions will be easier to start, but harder to finish. they're going to be harder to finish because technology raises expectations. it makes movement making accelerated. but part of the reason some of these groups have come to power is they were the only ones who were allowed to actually be organized under a single man dictatorship. >> sean: you were the one that said, or quoted somewhere as saying that you believe ten years from now the result is going to be different because of the internet's impact on all of that. >> sure it is, because people are going to have phones. their exception will be raised and whoever is this government, they're going to be held accountable in a way that the predecessor was not.

>> sean: you can counter the indoctrination, the culture that people want, sharia law, for example? >> absolutely. i really do because people are curious and most people are good natured. so here they've got somebody being radicalized and taught and being taught this is the only way. here on the internet, they've got another choice. they can actually learn about it. >> sean: i'm going to hold you over for the next segment. we're going to continue more with eric schmidt straight ahead we're in los angeles

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>> sean: welcome back to hannity. we continue with the executive chair of google eric schmidt and google ideas director. i never heard of a company with an ideas director. what do you do for a living? i'm an ideas man. that is a real title. >> and i think it works. >> sean: pretty interesting to me. let me ask from a business perspective when you look at american economy when yo you lk

at we have $17 trillion in new obama debt. growing and elderly generation, the grea greatest generation me people needing social security. how bad is it from a business perspective? >> the only solution is innovation. the company is growing at 1.82% a year. that is not going to put us competitive against the asian growth rate is of 4% to 5%. america is the greatest country in the world in innovation. form new technologies and new markets and so forth. that has to be the highest priority of all of the business. the innovation will allow young people to create jobs and jobs allow the older people to have a good retirement. really simple. >> sean: we have to face the truth that we have to live within our means. >> i would argue that we can grow out of our problems. growth solves most problems and way is investing in the human capital. when you look at the people

coming out of universities today the top universities in the world are are in america. we should be proud of that and take advantage of it. >> sean: good to see you. thank you for being with us. let not your heart be troubled. greta is next. see you back here tomorrow night. >> greta: this is a fox news alert. late tonight the senate passing a bill to end air traffic controller furloughs. but the national uproar over flight delays the senate voted unanimously to approve the measure to provide enough funding for traffic controllers through september 30. the house must take up the bill and they vote on it tomorrow. more breaking news on this later. first, next target, new york city. >> last night we were informed by the fbi that the surviving attacker revealed that new york city was next on their list of targets. >> subsequent questioning of dhokhar reveald that he and his brother decided spontaneously on times square as a target. >> they had