>> judge jeanine: in new york harbor stands a mighty woman with a torch beckoning the masses yearning to breathe free and the wretched refuge from tossed shores to her as she lifts her lamp beside is the golden door and they were by all accounts just that, a family fleeing a tire a tyrannical government. the very people who whom the mighty woman holds out her welcoming torch. good evening. welcome to "justice."

this weekend as america awakens from the nightmare visited upon boston we begin to comprehend the enorm mitt of the violence that was visited upon us. the tsarnaev family, a father, mother, two sons were granted political asylum in 2002. we opened our arms to them. showered them with food and money and housing and education and all of the freedoms of american citizens. and look at how they repay us. and here is how tamerlan's mother describes her son. >> but all around he was really nice and very, like he never rejected any one american just because they are american. >> judge jeanine: real? he never rejected any one american just because they were american?

after opening our arms to you bhat you and your terrorist sons didn't reject us? and listen to what this loving mother says of her 19-year-old son clinging to life. >> my oldest one is killed so i don't care if my youngest one is going to be killed today. i want the world hear this. i don't care i am going to get you, too. okay. and i will aallahu akbar. >> judge jeanine: does that sound like o woman on her own raddiccal jihad, willing to sacrifice yet another son in honor of their god? and get this one. >> whatever. why did they kill him? >> why didn't they send him to guantanamo? now, you knew he was a muslim jihaddist and that you raised a muslim jihaddist.

if he is innocent why would he need to go to guantanamo? and get this one. >> why did i even go there? why? i thought america was going to like protect us, our kids is, is going to be safe for like any reasons but it happened. america took mikeds my kids away from you. >> judge jeanine: really? america took your sons away from you? they killed americans. injured more than 200. blinded, deafened and blew the arms and legs off of innocent civilians. turning the city of boston in a lockdown war zone of casualties and pure tees and a future of post traumatic stress and america should protect you? your sons killed us. we are the ones who needed the protection. and you ask why did i even go there? i will tell you why. you came to is suck the fat of our land.

to take our money to educate your terrorist sons, to steal from us and go on public assistance and get housing and food stamps while you drive your mercedes-benz all the while your family going back and forth to the very country from which you claim political refuge. might you guys have lied on that old political asylum petition? maybe we should add a charge of perjury to the list. you are a thief. you were charged with theft. you were put on a terrorist watch list. your son is charged with beating his girlfriends your other son is a pot head and neither working or employed traveling back and forth. most americans can't even afford afford a vacation. they are losing their homes. they live check who check. the elderly choose between food and medicine. service men and women are getting cuts in their benefits. and then when hard working

americans want to know how you guys can afford this the governor of massachusetts refuses to reveal what kind of taxpayer assistance your son tamerlan got on the grounds of privacy. privacy? what privacy? governor you take our money and you give it to this dirtbag and you want to protect his privacy? you want to protect his rights? he's dead. he's is terrorist. he has no rights. but then again it is okay to invade my privacy and publish my name and where i live on an interactive map because i'm a lawful gun owner. and now mother of jihadis the obama administration at break neck speed rushes in a federal judge and stops the fbi in the middle of a high value interrogation to arraign your son and shower him with even more rights. the right to remain silent. the right to an attorney.

unparalleled medical care. all of the protections of our constitution. why? because the president and his buddy eric holder want the world to think better of us. th world to see american justice at its best. really? they hate us! they chant death to america. they burn us in effygys. we give them billions in f-16s and armored tanks as they laugh their way to the bank and airfield. and when they kill us we don't seen send in reenforcements like the four fighting in benghazi. and we want them to like us? honestly i don't much care about what the world thinks of us ore our criminal justice system. they come here to kill us and we worry about what they think about us. i don't want to show the rest of the world how your system works. i honestly don't give a damn! and okay mother of jihadi they

say you are planning on coming here but you hope springs eternal and maybe the system will work and the watch list you are on will stop you. i imagine they will let you in and if they do i can only pray that they will activate the outstanding bench warrant against you for larceny. and what's that? you can't afford an attorney too damn bad! and i have an idea. you and your son should be stripped of citizenship and tried in a mel terri tribunal in guantanamo. lady you shouldn't be allowed here. we don't want you here. we should not be required to breathe the same air as you. we should not be required to suffer the indignity of your presence. >> well -- >> with me now is former cia covert operations officer mike baker. right or wrong mike? >> you're absolutely right. the one thing we haven't heard

from her in all of the ranting she has been doing is how you bad she feels for the victims. has anybody heard her say i feel so terrible about what happened to those victims. not a thing. there has been nothing. she clearly nabbed the most miserable mother on the planet award. there is no mother's day card coming her way i don't mean to say -- >> judge jeanine: don't apologize for it. >> in every television station in russia. >> judge jeanine: trashing us. >> trash us. >> judge jeanine: any tears when she was ranting? not a one tier. let me go back. you have a russian entell against agency contacting the fbi and your old agency the cia and then the cia contacts other agencies. they are on a watch list. yet this guy is able to leave and go back and stay there section months when has a wife and kid here, come back. why does that happen, mike?

>> first of all, everyone is talking about the russians and saying the russians notified us as if somehow the russians and putin are the gold standard for transparency in the war on terror. the only thing they care about with tamerlan is the separative issue. they don't tare about the cal radical islamists. >> but the proof is in the pudding. they were right. >> they are concerned with the ongoing brutal battle with chechens. about if anybody wants to get upset with anybody we should be going after putin and the fsb and the russians. you would have to be either willfully naive or moronic not to understand that the russians spent the entire time six months that he was over there right on his backside. they have got a file i guarantee you. >> judge jeanine: they may have information -- mike, look, let me -- >> he came back and they have a big file and couldn't be bothered to tell us.

>> judge jeanine: they told us evacuees. they didn't have to call us once. they didn't have to call us twice. if we had any sense is of intelligence we would have is understood this guy is traveling there. he comes back and he is on the radical videos. the youtube video that he is posting for all of the world to see. >> after the fact. >> judge jeanine: and then janet napolitano comes out. do we have a full screen. she comes out and says something like when we came back the fbi alert on him was more than a year old and it expired. what? >> the two primary watch lists are passive. not no-fly zones. the information that was available, because remember he gets radicalized over a period of time. all that review and investigation happened before he went over and spent six months undoubtedly receiving training. >> judge jeanine: he went to that country and came back why didn't something tick? >> it did. at the was pinged and it was reported to the joint terrorist task force to an individual there. >> judge jeanine: where is the failure? >> a couple of things.

>> judge jeanine: real fast. >> the failure is, first of all, again i keep going back to this. the failure is with the russians. called us with him. the failure is with the russians. it was in their interest to do that because of again their own -- >> judge jeanine: you know what, i don't -- >> when was leaving russia to come back here and they knew what he was doing over there in terms of training and resources they couldn't be bothered. >> judge jeanine: i don't buy it. it is about the fbi and cia and everybody else after the fact not wanting to take blame for anything and not saying he is is a danger and the bottom line is after 9/11 this wasn't supposed to happen and it happened again. >> judge, i love you but i got to disagree with you on this. >> judge jeanine: good good. always. nice to see you mike. >> good to see you. >> judge jeanine: coming up next the form attorney general of the united states is here to tell us why he thinks holder knew exactly what was going on when the interrogation of the bombing suspect was cut short. and later why do we let

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>> judge jeanine: 16 hours after dhokhar tsarnaev started talking he stopped. the reason? a federal judge a federal defense attorney show up unannounced at his hospital room and told him that he could stop. the fbi says the interrogation wasn't continue finished. why did the judge show up and why was the suspect told he could remain is silent? with me, michael mukasey who as chief judge in the southern district of new york prosided over many terrorist trials. good to have you here. >> good to be here.

>> judge jeanine: everyone upset about the fact that the magistrate comes in on monday with a whole host of people. you were a prosecutor. i was a judge you were judge. different levels obviously. an arraignment does not take place of any defendant without the prosecutor actually notifying the court the court then notifies the court officers the bailiff and steno grapher and u.s. attorney and defense attorney. did this happen in a vacuum? >> did not happen in a vacuum and didn't have to happen at all. >> judge jeanine: why? >> because the government could have filed a complaint and let it go at that and continued to question him. there is -- >> judge jeanine: is there a period of time after which they file that complaint within which they would have had to arraign him and give him his rights? >> the law says when there is a good reason for delaying it you can delay it. and there would have been no prejudice to him from delaying

it because the questioning of him was being done by a a team from the fbi interested in gathering intelligence not ned the criminal case. not of what he said was going to be used as evidence in the criminal case. so there was no reason to stop. >> judge jeanine: and judge, has national security here teak and back seat to a defendant's criminal rights? >> not even in the back seat. it is not in the car. >> judge jeanine: well, said. and what about the fact that they -- can they continue to get intelligence? >> my view you is they could go -- my view is they could go back now and question him have the same fbi team that was questioning him question him for national security reasons and he would not be entitled to have a lawyer present there. >> judge jeanine: if the lawyer heard about this could the lawyer request the magistrate to have the fbi cia dod high value you team stop the

interrogation? >> she could request is and file a habeus petition and if the judge agreed the government could take it eventually up to massachusetts the first circuit and if they didn't succeed there take it to the supreme court and keep questioning him the entire time. he is not entitled to be represented by a lawyer in connection with an intelligence investigation any more than he is entitled to have his lawyer draw up the will. >> judge jeanine: so the federal public defender that marched in with the judge and' sift yan u.s.and assistant u.s. attorney and the stenographer and the whole entourage is not his attorney for other things. how do they continue to get intel from him? and more importantly how does the high value interroga

team separate so the lawyer doesn't say it is tainted and the evidence isn't going to come in? >> determine whether in fact they kept it isolated. they would have to not run their mouths about what they were getting because if they did it would taint the rest of the case. >> judge jeanine: when you say run their mouths. it is kind of interesting because the fbi said they were getting valuable information and that they were stunned when everybody shows up at the hospital room and what is amazing is the fbi tells mayor bloomberg and new york city that look, the plan was to come to new york with more pipe bombs, right? >> right. >> judge jeanine: no to come to new york to party. they didn't tell them they going to come here to bomb times square which is a problem and indication that we needed to continue to question this guy because there might be more out there waiting to do this kind of thing. >> i seriously doubt there were more out there waiting to do this sort of thing but it would

be nice to know who else helped them. >> judge jeanine: but were they going to meet people in new york? that kind of thing. >> all of that and who helped them in the inception because whoever helped them in the inception is still out there helping others in the inception. people say they must have learned this off the internet. >> judge jeanine: this particular. >> number one, even if they assembled the bombs off the internet you don't do that without practice. people blow their hands off doing that. >> judge jeanine: always an oner to have you here. thanks for being with us tonight. >> thank you. >> judge jeanine: the boston bomber's whole family was granted asylum in the u.s. why do we even give these people asylum? ambassador bolton weighs in. and we take you live to the correspondents dinner as soon as the headliners hit the stage. you are not going to want to

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they are vetted from the time they apply to the time between when they are told they are going be a citizen and they actually take the oath at a ceremony. we are continually revetting and going back and checking, checking checking, checking. in this instance in boston, the systems contained no derogatory information as to either brother. >> judge jeanine: that was homeland security is secretary napolitano saying that no red t red flags have been all over the place after two warnings from a foreign government? and should political asylum be granted for people with suspected terror ties? with me is the former u.s. ambassador to the united nations, john bolton. good evening ambassador. >> hi, glad to be with you. >> judge jeanine: thank you. why do we give these people

political asylum and what do you have to do to get it? >> as a general proposition i think political asylum is a good thing and part of the american political culture. we do welcome people from all the world who dissidenheir own countries but it is done -- should be done on the very careful basis that these people are in fact legitimate refugees timately asylum from persecution or the well founded fear of persecution in their own countries not coming here to carry out their own version of the struggle. and ha system obviously broke down here. you can talk about checking, checking checking like secretary napolitano does. it is embarrassing to listen to her. >> judge jeanine: it gls because they never should have. >> judge jeanine: it gls because they never should have been given political asylum in the first place. >> judge jeanine: they have to allege they will be persecuted? what do we do, go over there

and check it out? >> not clear were they refugees apply for entry into the united states while they were overseas or somehow you then get in the country and apply as asigh asylum seekers once they were here. were the parents given asylum and therefore the sons as well and how did they prove persecution or well fou persecution? being persecuted by the russian government? if that is right the how is it they went back and forth to russia so often and how is it when they left. >> judge jeanine: that is my next question. how you do you claim that you are refugee from one country or seeking political asylum because of persecution and go back and forth there like you are going on vacation. >> exactly. in fact, it appears after they left chechnya they just went next door to still part of the russian federation. they were able to live in russia and that should have been a disqualifier as well.

the idea is when an application is filed it is supposed to be investigated and there is supposed to be a security investigation of all asylum seekers for good reason obviously and there is simply no evidence anybody paid any attention to it in the case of to that russian intelligence calling us twice and bolt the mother and son added to a u.s. database of suspected terrorists. are we stupid or inept or helpless? after 9/11 wasn't this all supposed to be figured out? >> i think part of the problem here was in the creation of the department of homeland security as is so often the case in the government you do a reorganization and people say problem solved and that is simply not true. eorganiz t in a different department and it is going to produce bad results. whenever you have got applications for asylum from a place like chechnya well known at the time that the tsarnaev family game to the came to the country

well known to be a recruiting ground for al-qaeda and other islamic radicallists there should have been an extra check to see if they had any ties. i reject the idea that they were necessarily radicalized in this cou. who knows whether or not the father and mother wer radicalized before they came here. >> judge jeanine: thank you so much for your insight. >> thank you. >> judge jeanine: coming up was tamerlan tsarnaev involved in a brutal triple murder in 2011? and vote in the enstamp programs poll. ook us. should the government seek the death penalty against the surviving boston bomber? when our little girl was born, we got a subaru.

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but now investigators have questions aboutamerlan's possible link to the murders. with the latest is boston globe reporter from boston. michael, do we know if police spoke to tamerlan after the murders last year or in 2011? >> well, the police knew about tamerlan. police knew that tamerlan was a friend of one of the victims. we he don't know how you seriously they looked at him as a possible suspect. police never announced they had any suspects whatsoever january and family members and relatives believed that the police concluded a drug deal gone awry or something of that sort. >> judge jeanine: these guys were known as drug dealers the three victims here? >> one of the three victims not tamerlan's best friend but one of the others had a record for drug dealing and the bodies were killed -- the bodies were left in ritualistic fashion. they were all three had their

throats slit and the bodies sprinkled with marijuana and there was no forced entry so police concluded it was someone that the victims knew and someone who was able to overpower three strong individuals who were capable of taking care of themselves. >> judge jeanine: and what was the date of these homicides, michael? >> previously it was reported that it was -- they died on september 11th 12. the bodies were found on september 12 2011. now, it has come to our attention the murders were performed on september 11th the 10th anniversary needless to say is a highly significant date for radicalamists. >> judge jeanine: thanks for being with us this evening. >> my pleasure, judge. >> judge jeanine: with me to break down the case, former nypd homicide detective harry houp. you have three of the victims and tamerlan the brother knew them. we do know that according to one of the police officers it

was the most the bloody crime scene and the worst bloodbath he had ever seen that it was right out of an al-qaeda ning video. >> right. i mean this sounds like a conspiracy theory here to me. you know, i'm sure the detectives probably is spoke to tamerlan after the homicide. >> judge jeanine: but you don't know that? >> i don't know that for sure. i'm hoping they did. definitely looks like a drug related homicide. yes, terrorists do cut people's. >> judge jeanine: if you think it as drug-related homicide why wouldn't they take $5,000 cash? why wou marijuana that they are sprinkling all over their bodies? i get that. take the money or take the drugs. >> they are sending a message. they didn't need the money. the people who might have killed these three guys were sending a message to them. i tonight know why they were killed sending a message listen don't deal dope in my neighborhood or deal dope in our territory. >> judge jeanine: i will give you a fact pattern.

what you have is tamerlan who in 2011 changed his whole behavior. stopped smoking and stopped drinking with the guys, stopped going out became a pure purrry tanniccal muslim and his brother is smoking dope all the time. all of a sudden his brother stopped smoking dope? possible his brother was murdered on the anniversary of 9/11 by someone who knew him. >> definitely a possibility and the police should have looked tamerlan. it was his best friend allegedly. the only pieces of evidence any have is that one was his best friend and that he didn't go to the that is what they got. this happened on september 11th september 12 and throats were cut. i have seen many drug dealers get their throat cut. remember are the colombian neck tie back in the day? >> of course, i do. >> am i saying tamerlan was not involved in this? knowno i'm not. >> judge jeanine: let me ask

you a question. a best friend. doesn't go to the wake and doesn't go to the funeral and doesn't speak highly of him any more after he is dead. >> what does that tell you? >> definitely him, of course. i'm not saying they shouldn't track tamerlan down now. got a cold homicide here. maybe need to warm it up a little bit. maybe tamerlan was involved in the homicide. i don't know. the crime scene had to be a bloody mess. >> judge jeanine: it was. they say it was. >> the detectives should have spoke to everybody's friends that is connected and also going back to the karate studio where they all worked out at also before. so am i s not be involved? now, he might be involved in the homicide. >> judge jeanine: what are they going to do now, harry? >> well, they will go back and talk to tamerlan now i'm sure. >> judge jeanine: tamerlan is dead. >> i'm sorry they will go back and track all that information now. maybe if they can get a chance to talk to the the brother which probably nobody is going to be able to talk to now.

and if tamerlan did it three people were murdered here. >> judge jeanine: and if he did it -- >> he also didn't do it himself. >> judge jeanine: you're probably right about that, harry. >> he had to bring somebody in there. >> judge jeanine: hair arery good night. coming up next, was the whole family in on the jihaddist attack? and how does an all american girl turn into this? and we are counting down until the start of the white house correspondents' dinner. stick around to hear what conan o'brien has to say.

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it is very clear when you take the totality of it that there was some outside counsel to these individuals on how to build and detonate. that is why the six months in russia becomes so important and other persons of interest that i know the investigators would like to talk to. >> judge jeanine: so did the boston bombers act alone? investigators are reportedly reexamining any possible role american born catherine russell wife of the older bombing suspect now deceased may have played in the attacks. some reports even say that catherine warned her husband and his brother that they were the fbi's prime suspects. with me terrorism analyst eric eric stackelbeck from d.c. and author of the new book terror red colonel david hunt in studio.

eric, i will go to you. when you look at a picture of catherine. this all american fund loving girl who gets beat up apparently periodically by tamerlan and then turns into what we saw in the picture. how does it happen? >> very interesting judge. apparently may have had troubles even before she met him. 2007, 2008 she was picked up for shop lifting as well. how does it happen? he was a charismatic forceful personality by all accounts and she came under his sway. interesting, in the cramped apartment that they lived in there. her, catherine, the brother the sister and the mother. such a cramped south america. icircumstance. i find it hard to believe that the wife and the mother, i find it hard to believe that they had no idea at all in terms of

what tamerlan was up to. they saw the radicalization unfolding up close. and his mother by the way look also on a terrorist watch list and has made some very, very nasty comments about america over the past few days. >> judge jeanine: no doubt. no doubt. colonel hunt, how does someone become radicalized? we keep hearing were teleradicallized here or there. what is the process. in you tell me that i should go out and bomb people? what do they say? >> the majority of the time it is religionly based iosques and schools and stud dig the shia part of islam. historically the last 11 years majority of radicalization is based on religion. state sponsorship of terrorism that pays for it but the radicalization is through you religion. >> islam is a religion and the radical islamists want to kill themselves and kill everybody else. these guys clearly didn't want to kill themselves.

how do you go from the peaceful relidge ton being convinced that you want to kill people? >> if it was organized they will find something in the personality and expand on it. father figures. religious figures report older brother is the leader and did it on his own and convinced the younger brother. we don't know. the problem is if it is local we have a problem sourcing against that. easier to go after al-qaeda. much hard ferrara they are individuals like this. >> even the fbi is saying we can't follow them and track them. you have the youtube videos that i can look at any time i want and if they are are being radicalized here it is a problem. eric, i'm going to go back to you. the mother says that she approved of her son's views and now an issue about the guy named mi is sha at a mosque. and you the last saturday that

said we got to look at the mosque that he prayed in. >> now, we are learning more. he pray in the islamic society of boston mosque in cambridge mass. convicted terrorists have worshiped at this mosque and an al-qaeda terrorist worshiped at that mosque. also the group that oversees the mosque that runs it is called the muslim american society. our own federal government said that the muslim american society is an arm of the muslim brotherhood. so you can only imagine what they are teaching at this this mosque. i tell you we are talking about radicalization. the muslim brotherhood is the gateway toe had these young kids reid muslim brotherhood literature. >> judge jeanine: and we keep sending them billions and f-16s and armored tanks. the book, one of the best books

i have read. a great reid. >> read. >> judge jeanine: this is about terrorism in boston and watertown. about must jihadists. >> and muslim brotherhood. >> where did you come up with in? >> five years ago. the muslim brotherhood known to a lot of people but based on my experience fighting terrorists my whole life. >> i assume that you are john gibson. >> colonel david gibson in the book and the coauthor her characteristic is kristina the main character in the book and we get forced together as we drop our families off on a plane in boston gets hijacked and moves out from there. >> judge jeanine: your knowledge of the system and intelligence and what would happen in the sequestration like this is so compelling. it is a great -- in the situation like this is so compelling. a great read. i never do this but i got the to tell you, a great book and

all about boston. amazing. thanks for being with us tonight. >> after the break your answers to the insta-poll question. your last chance to weigh in should the government seek death in the boston bomber case? be sure to stick around. just moments away from the start of the white house correspondents' dinner. ♪

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>> judge jeanine: now, too it is team for the results of tonight's insta-poll. we asked you should the government seek death in the boston bomber case? most of you were in favor of the ultimate miriam says no doubt about this, he is not an innocent in this as the queen of hearts said off with his head. and let his parents watch to see what they raised. ben warned if he gets life without parole that is a long time in which he can lure others into his demonic plans. and jackie was pretty harsh. not, yes, but hell, yes. he should have already been shot. well, maybe shouldn't have read that one.

so was sondra. death too good. he should be tortured first. too darn bad our sense is of good humanity towards others doesn't allow it. not everyone was in favor of death. catherine said it may be unpopular but i oppose death under any circumstances. really catherine? and anyway that is how all of you at home felt about what should happen to the alleged bomber. what will it be like defending him? let's ask the man who defended the oklahoma city bomber tim tim bomb tim timothy mcveigh? do you prepare defections rently? >> there are certain aspect ups of the federal law applicable to terrorist type crimes that aren't applicable to routine

felonies is such as bank robbery or murder. >> judge jeanine: and do you worry about the danger zone for you or your family? >> i was concerned about that while representing mr. mcveigh but to be frank with you the judge was gracious and concerned about our security and provide the appropriate security for us. and so we didn't worry about it. >> judge jeanine: and what do you think the defense will be in a case like this, where you have got a victim who says he saw the brother laid down the duffle bag. forensic evidence and video images. basically an admission to the guy whose car they carjacked and it goes on and on. i'm sure there is a lot more. how do you defend a case like this? >> well, the defense if the government seeks murder is fairly obvious. it only takes one member of the jury to oppose the death penalty and stand fast and it is life without parole.

on the first stage it appears to me and i don't want to second guess other lawyers but it' appears there are three avenues open for the defense. first, is if there are others involved particularly if there is a foreign involvement then there is a basis to negotiate with the government that in return for the exchange of information the government will not seek the death penalty. number two you can always attack the government's evidence that it is inis sufficient or flawed or perhaps not admissible so you raise reasonable doubt. and then third if the government will not accept a plea agreement that you are satisfied with you can argue to the jury that there were others involved and it would be a mistake to execute the only man that knows fully about those others and may some day under some circumstances reveal them. i'm sure that the defense has other matters that i have not discussed here but those appear to be at least at the early

stages of the case available to the defense. >> judge jeanine: and how does the defense prove possibly that the younger are brother dhokhar was under the influence of the older brother tamerlan? how you do you prove that? >> probably a question of whether there is a burden on the defense but probably one of three ways. one, sigh so i co-logical testimony. two, friends that knew both of them and third the defendant himself might explain that. >> judge jeanine: i thought the same thing on point no. three having to take the stand himself. steven jones thanks so much for sharing your insights with us tonight. >> thank you judge. >> judge jeanine: stick around. after the break we will take you live to the white house correspondents' dinner for a few laughs and all of those beautiful celebrities. not the politicians, of course.

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this is a fox news alert. hello and welcome to our special coverage of the white house currents' dinner. i'm judge jeanine pirro. in a few moments we will take you to the live coverage. first i want to introduce my guest republican strategists noelle nickpor. ryen clayton. steven crowd fresh michigan and political satirist will durst who joins us from san francisco. let me say quickly that i look forward to this every year. i love, you know, the

politicians. i love hollywood the glitz and glamour and who looks good and who doesn't. noelle, what are you looking