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and spending their money now. three hours on fox business network we get into it. this weekend all business shows on fox we look out for you. >> eric: i'm eric boling, along with our panel. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is the five. >> eric: sue premeditate court justice clarence thomas sat down for an interview and it did not disappointed. one of the most powerful african-american conservatives talking about the most powerful president obama. has he visited him. >> i don't do a lot of washington. i'm not into politics. i mean there is not that many
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occasions, i shook hands with him at the inauguration. i have had no in-depth conversations. >> is there common ground. >> that is hard to say. what common ground did i have with president bush 43. i don't like politics. i do my job. >> eric: and then things got really interesting. here is what he thinks about mr. obama and how he got elected? >> the thing that i knew it would have to be a black president who is approved by the elites and media. anybody they didn't agree with they would take apart. that will happen with virtually, you pick your person. any black person who says something that is not prescribed things they expect from a black person will be picked apart. you can pick -- don't pick me who decided not to go along with
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it. there is a price to pay. i would assume it would be somebody the media has to agree with. >> eric: bob? >> bob: i think that is simplistic on his part. the idea suggesting the president obama was elected because he was the black guy that rest of america felt comfortable with and it was f it was a conservative black man, he wouldn't have a conservative black democratic ticket. i think he takes away obama's good political skills which are enormous. >> i think she touching on something. if i look at the way historically, he said no me, but he is perfect example of how the media treats certain demographics that they feel belong squarely in their camp. women is one. if you look at the way the media
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celebrated hillary clinton until barack obama got into the game media made a conscious decision we love the are idea of first female president but we love the idea of president obama. that was the glass ceiling that stopped her. >> i think it's refreshing. i love hearing thomas talk. i it's very refreshing, look i'm not in politics. i do my job. washington thing is not part of what i do. i rule on cases i see. he never once said, look at me i'm the first black supreme court justice -- the first conservative black supreme court justice. he doesn't play that tune. >> greg: black conservative is the actual interracial marriage that white liberals hate the most. nothing makes -- people like bob
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and the media malfunction more, sticking a black fork in a white toaster and sfeem comes out. being a black republican in 2013 is cooler than being a black panth they are the 1970s. you take more risks. the case in point, you take two accomplished black men, clarence thomas and president obama, one is beloved by the media and one is reviled. it's the obvious racists that blacks should be kept in their place. that is reason they can't stand alan west. >> eric: dana? >> dana: what? [ laughter ] >> dana: rare interview happens every six months. it's not that he never speaks. it is interesting to hear from
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him when he is not talking about the courts specifically. the follow-up question by the interviewer, do you have any common ground with president obama, i never met him. how could he possibly have common ground. i agree with bob it is dangerous for conservatives to think they can win elections if they don'tened that the campaign produce rest and sophistication of the obama team from -- or 2006 and 2008, that is juager the new. there is genuine affection for president obama from all south of people around the country and persuasion is better way to get people to come around your point of view. >> eric: but president obama gets a lot of help from the media. they sway their reporting to the
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obama administration's -- let me role this soundbite. here is president obama talking. >> rule that has been put forward by the fda, the secretary has reviewed, she is comfortable with. i'm comfortable with the decision with the decision they made right now based on solid, scientific evidence for girls that are 15 and over. >> eric: we didn't see them talking about it. president obama says 15-year-olds having access to the morning-after pill. where is the coverage? besides here? >> bob: first of all this is tough segway. we went from clarence thomas to the morning-after pill. i don't think what he said was extraordinarily news making. he has made this point before.
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kathleen sebelius came out and said what she said and this judge gave it forget that. anywhere in the drugstore and i don't roo agree with all of that. i don't see where the newsworthyness. >> andrea: that is point. neither did the today show that many parents watch and i think you have democratic mothers who are watching this and seeing this, wait a minute, no, i don't want my 15-year-old to have access to this prescription without my knowledge or any prescription. if i were a mother i would feel that way. the media didn't cover it. in many states, bob, it's statutory rape. the fact that president commented on it today should be big news. they excuse it because it's highly radioactive and in left field. this is not a middle of the road issue even for many democrats. >> greg: i wish there was morning-after pill for this
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administration. [ laughter ] >> eric: dana? >> dana: the part that interested me when he said it is based on scientific evidence. it still bothered me. science will do a lot of things in the future that doesn't necessarily mean, whatever science is able to do we should bless it. common sense, decency, good judgment, responsibility those have to factor in leadership at one point. >> eric: week do one more soundbite? nancy pelosi, media has given, they put it on pedestal in 2012, listen to nancy pelosi looking forward to 2016. >> i pray that hillary clinton decides to run for president of the united states. let's set aside the fact she is a woman, a good person. she will be the most qualified person to enter the white house
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in modern history. [ applause ] >> eric: your thoughts. >> greg: she is right if modern history started in 2008. i couldn't believe she could say that. we know hillary is going to get a free ride and up until obama. media wants to be cool and have the first woman president. that is how they rallied around obama. if we don't have our little person president, i'm going to move to trinidad or tabago. >> you are going to lose fans. >> eric: most qualified president in modern history. >> andrea: based on what? she was former first lady but if you look at the resume of other people who have run for president. i'm looking for a big accomplishments that hillary clinton has done. her tenure at the state department was nothing short -- i don't want to say it based on
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benghazi -- a failure. that 3:00 a.m. phone call went to her and ignored. we know that for a fact based on hearings but they will ignore it benghazi will not be an issue if she runs for president. the slogan it is my turn. slogan it's really my turn. >> dana: i think pelosi is wrong for another reason and that is inside the beltway type of thinking. experience for very successful presidents in the past including a governorship because you are the executor of the state. you have to have a budget. you can't rack up air miles. there could be a governor maybe on the democratic side. i tend to think in a year like 2016 there may be somebody from outside the beltway, on outside the establishment that is sought
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there in the country that is actually connected with what americans care about. >> bob: on the right. first of all i am going to take an exception about failure. i can't think of a secretary of state has been a better success in many ways. wait a minute. nato is stronger. pacific rim countries are closer to us. she has taken the case for women around the world. she has handled a number of things and kept the united states at the forefront at the time we were slipping. >> but her job is to keep diplomats safe. >> what is so great about her tenure. >> bob: you can't grade on one event like that. >> they graded bush on the far
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left. >> eric: there are people some would say, one of the most important attributes to being president is military service. in modern history presidents, do you have that? so president obama, no military service. president bush had a texas air guard. president clinton no military service. president bush 41 had it and president reagan was a captain in the army. >> he made movies for the military and i don't consider that to be strong military experience. she was on the arms services committee. the pentagon they like her very much. >> that is true. >> greg: and i always think military service is important part. i say that at 48 because i can't
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be registered. >> eric: we shall leave it there. the murder case that captivated the nation is winding down after four months of testimony. jodi arias defense gave closing arguments. why is the mainstream media and director of national intelligence down playing the boston bombing suspects connections to radical islamists. more straight ahead. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ take me home tonight ♪ when you vote for flo, we'll have discounts. ice-cream discounts. multi-cookie discounts. pizza loyalty discounts! [ kids chanting "flo!" ] i also have some great ideas on car insurance. [ silence ]
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>> greg: some intelligence experts call the boston bombing a home-grown attack, comparing it to sandy hook. to buy that you would have to ignore the red flags that were raised about the bomber or associations to various terror low life. you have to play the idea the bombing may be part of a greater movement meant to inspire mayhem. the last i checked sandy hook guil wasn't part of it. why didn't they cite the fort hood shooter? at this point i'm trying hard not to explode. first we worry about if whether they liked us there now we have to worry about people liking us here. we must adapt to them. imagine throwing a party in which the goal is to make it less fun. you pee and trash the furniture.
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welcome to america. now 80 am more like afghanistan. this is the first time in history decides to assimilated downward. when we once believe that our country was tops, we expect those that came here to get it. now having for fit that idea we turn a blind eye to a deadly connection. so many people left the desert to come here and it's us who stick our heads in the sand. dana, i hope you were listening. that was directed to you. [ laughter ] >> greg: i want to make an obvious point if i can find my question. there are other communities in america that live separately. they are called the amish. do we worry about us assimilate go to the amish? do we start churning butter. why do we have to assimilate to them or figure out their
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culture. >> dana: i'm riding around in a buggy. i thought you made an excellent point. i don't understand from the reading from well known columnists who said basically the burden is on us. to hope they can somehow come to like us when they get here. i don't know exactly when that changed. the last line in this, it's not likely to spike into mass phenomenon, but i don't understand why we are in this position. i'm not sure exactly how to get out of it if the leadership is calling this basically, there is not a lot what we can do. >> greg: tweet more dog photos to the muslim community. >> bob: there is decision amish decide to keep themselves separate. their culture is their culture.
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if you wanted to join them, fine. they don't assimilate with rest of america much. in the muslims, that is i have a hard time whether they do, too. there is large concentrations of muslims in this country, they all congregate together. very much in london is the same thing. maybe it's part of the process when emigrants came to the united states. >> they have little italy and things like that. >> bob: but took time to assimilate. i do know this. i have a problem when they set up their mosques and we're ridiculed by clerics that don't like us. why are you traveling all the way over here. >> andrea: are we going to put a mosque at the end of the boston finish line? is that the next thing we have to do? i can't believe this administration continues to say there is no ties.
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al-qaeda has changed. its brand. it's not a unified army. they don't have cards with ids, it's an idea and it has changed. the fact that we don't acknowledge it but greg, quickly those brothers were more americanized than anybody. they boxed. though had no trouble meeting girls. they loved american tv shows. they got taxpayer dollars and went to our schools. we welcomed them and showered them with money and turned around killed us. >> eric: then the administration said, mirandize, they were probably self-radicalized. meanwhile, 60 minutes a couple days after the bombing, you know what, kids are nice kid. one girl said he was so cute. another said we tried to bring him in the student association but he didn't join. if the daily caller is right he
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played soccer with the student association. there is a lot of ties between the muslim student association, muslim brotherhood. there is al-qaeda ties. there is radical imams that speak at student association events. >> greg: can i pointed out. i didn't want any pictures of the bombers. i said the dog poop and you didn't use the dog poop. use the dog poop. >> dana: i can get you a picture for l over the weekend. i wanted to say one of recommendations intelligence community is we need more effective community policing. that is what the nypd was doing and the ap tried to destroy that and got a pulitzer for it. >> greg: i want to show the cover of the boston herald. this is an amazing point that has to be made. if those friends of the bombers,
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they got a phone call when they texted back and forth to each other. that guy would be alive. >> bob: i think we need to be careful about indicting all muslim student associations. i don't think we can say they are dangerous associations. >> all i said 60 minutes, they put on, they said, no, he wasn't part of the group. but he spent a lot of time with them playing in soccer games. >> andrea: there is a good muslims and bad muslims. >> there are good greeks and bad greeks. >> and on the 5:00, you've heard about it and how reese witherspoon got her arrested. we have the tape of her fighting with a state trooper. reese's real life drama coming up next. ♪ ♪
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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> dana: weekly standard there is now new evidence the administration has may have been misleading after the attack at our consulate. a hearing next week in congress and witnesses are planning to come forward. victoria townsend has found herself in the middle of the war in order to get clients to testify. >> in the she was liar. >> she is making false statements. >> that is lie, isn't it, right? >> false statements are lying.
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we think that it was unsound to go on tv and say, she hadn't picked the phone and call us. >> he is making up stuff about me all week. if secretary kerry has any integrity or class he will demand that mr. vantel apologize to me a. >> dana: i don't know how this came to this? the white house in the beginning that we're talking about this report in the weekly standard, they were covering this stuff from the beginning. so, now, the emails show. when you have jay carney's name, it doesn't matter. now nou 6 spokesperson that is criticizing somebody very popular in washington, they are digging deeper. >> andrea: they are. it's getting worse by the day. steven hayes, it's fantastic and explosive. it's everything we thought was
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here. we knew it as jay carney, isn't it self-evident and there was more to the story. victoria is very credible. when i talked on the radio show can necessity stop your clients from testifying. she said no, they can limit what they say. why they are making it so difficult is beyond me. honestly they should have let them go and testify and say we never got the communication from her and the secretary that did get a letter from issa. >> dana: let me go to the soundbite talking about the hearing. he had advice to republicans when they do the hearings. republicans need to be really careful to ask a question and not give a speech, to listen to the previous question and then to follow up. lastly, to treat everybody in an impartial way looking for
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information and being willing to accept human error. to make it a real inquiry into truth and thus take away the argument that its political attack. >> dana: is that a good point? >> greg: yes, i agree, i kind of zoned out there. i was thinking about what i was going to eat. [ laughter ] >> dana: he is making a great point. >> greg: the administration is about as transparent as a french film. i can't follow what they are doing. what gets me is jay carney. i'm more upset about jay carney. he reflects the mind set of the media. it's like a questioning a mirror. he essentially insulted the media by saying it's an old story. media has to almost get embarrassed to cover a story. they should cover the story. he just said you are not going to cover it. >> bob: i think krauthammer, he makes a very good point and says to republicans, do not treat this as a witch hunt but
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rather -- the issue with the state department. that was clear. either it happened or it didn't happen. somebody is lying. if you look at the state department, the cables and changing the talking points. that happens a lot in something like this. >> eric: it has but at some point. >> dana: did you changing the intent of intel to cover it up. that is not usual zbleeg. >> eric: but what it is alleging that ambassador rice after talking to o five separate talk shows blaming the video that the administration leaning on intel to change the talking points. point of view wasn't in the talking points, leaned on the intel community to change talking points to fit administration's rhetoric. basically covering up for lying
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or fibbing. >> bob: if we go back to the first week. intel community did say they were not convinced yet. >> you have to look at the documents. you go to weekly standard.com you see the original points, the origin tell. then the requested change that came three times from the state departmental, not late on friday night when susan rice is getting ready. we can have the hearing next week and let the chips fall where they may. >> bob: advice to democrats, lay it out exactly as it happened. take your hits if you have to. this thing is not going to bring anybody down but clear the air. >> greg: let me ask one question. >> who pushed the video and what is coming up next, a crackdown on ids and costing under age
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out. ♪ >> did you ever have a fake i.d.? >> yes, i did. >> how many? >> three. >> do you remember the name on your fake i.d.? >> yes, actually my own name. >> john prenderget. >> david johnson iii. >> it was actually my picture and was september out from florida. i sent it out to one of girls. >> where did you get the i.d., do you remember? >> i friend of mine had it. >> from a friend of a friend. >> always a friend of a friend. >> did it work when you used it. >> it worked a couple of times when it got taken way. >> the only way they found me is because it had my real name. >> andrea: i never had a fake one. i used my older sister's. she is tall and beautiful and green eyes and 5'9". my i.d. had my birthday, it was 12-30 but that before i turned
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21. i took a lighter and i burned the one off the 12 so it said february 30th and i burn the rest of the license. so the bouncer would say what happened to this, my friend would say she was in a fire. [ laughter ] >> andrea: she has burns on her legs. they didn't even realize there is not 30 days in february and i got in. rocket i bet you have a story that is crazier. >> bob: i had five of them. alexander hamilton, george clooney, i also had albert einstein. yeah. albert and i were close. the fake i.d. -- by the way, i could be back here in i.d. with bombing's name on it. the easiest fake i.d. was a bad one that wrapped around $20 bill
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and you gave it and you were good to go. >> i just kept the birth dated on it. i was 16 years old at the time. the drinking age in chicago was 18. when it went to 21, i think i just turned 18, we had to drive up to wisconsin. there was slits malt liquor bowl every time. >> i don't know why i'm so embarrassed. i was so scared of getting into trouble. i'm surprised i am embarrassed about it. good thing to do is not get a fake i.d. but i was so scared to get in trouble. i have a problem right now with my i.d., it's not about weight and height. i went on the dmv and it's not available to change. it says i'm substantially taller than i am. >> andrea: did you drink before you were 21?
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>> dana: yeah. >> greg: you don't need an i.d. to get in chunky cheese. a little height joke you are going to do there. i'm sorry. yes, i had a fake i.d. but it was younger than me. because i was trying to get into disney films cheaply. [ laughter ] >> greg: it was jones the love bug. >> andrea: don't get a fake i.d. bob, no, reese witherspoon didn't need a fake i.d. but i wishes she had a different form of identification. the dashboard cam from the cop car has surfaced of that fateful night. look at this.
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are you kidding me? i'm an american citizen. it pisses me off. do you know my name sir. you don't need to know my name. okay. you are about to find out who i am. >> never good to say that. >> greg: i learned a lot from that video. keep your mouth shut. also i didn't know you could get arrested for that. it's so much of you. that was horrible. >> favorite part of it to find out about her husband. at the very end the officer says to her husband, i tried and i'm sorry. officer said i tried i absolutely tried and the cop says, i had nothing to do that. so he throws her under the bus. what is wrong with her?
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>> we had one to apologize but clearly this is a case who thinks she has a standing over everybody else. she should spend a couple nights in the drunk tank. >> i don't think it was that bad yes, sir, no, sir with the cops. >> stay in the car. >> you were drunk. >> andrea: directly ahead, closing arguments in the jodi arias murder trial. defense is wrapping up the case. we'll take you inside the courtroom up next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ i woke up with this horrible rash on my right side.
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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> bob: jodi arias murder trial, after four months of testimony. here are some of the highlights from the prosecution and defense today and yesterday. >> somebody called up, and told you that sympathy is not to be considered in this particular case. no doubt she did it. no doubt that he was trying to get away from her. >> it's not even about whether
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or not you like jodi arias. nine things out of ten, i don't like jodi arias. not liking her does not objectively change the evidence. >> bob: it's been a long trial. eric, you know you must admit. i didn't get the sensational numbers of people that are tuning in. looking at it now, it has all the components. >> eric: it's been a fantastic trial. juan martinez has done a master it will job. in the closing arguments where he isly really going to step by step. she starts breaking down. he goes back at her. he is trying to tell the jury, she killed that guy. remember she said somebody else did it. for two years, then two years into the whole investigation thing, no, i did it but it was self-defense. i had to blow him away with a gun and slit his throat.
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i'm guessing he is going to get his conviction. >> bob: i know this is best subject. >> dana: best phrase closing arguments. that is all i got. i don't care. [ laughter ] >> greg: headline news for forcing us to do this story. nothing good came from the trial. they dragged a dead man through hell who could not defend himself. we have a cold-blooded murderer that lied about everything. i get ticked off that they are talking about spousal abuse against her. we have no evidence of that. she brutally murdered this guy. i am sick of her face. go away forever. >> bob: andrea? >> andrea: all they have to do is a little bit of doubt and jurors' minds which ask what
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they did with casey anthony. i think there is so much evidence and she contradicted herself and told so many different stories. i think it's too late for the tears. >> bob: i think it says something about the viewers. they are pulling so many people watching it. >> andrea: it reads better than a reality shows, sex, lies, nude photos. >> bob: and they dressed her up. one more thing, that was a plea by our producer. ♪ ♪ ♪ this is america. we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're one of them people who gets heartburn and then treats day afr day... block the acid with prilosec otc and don't get heartburn in the first place! [ male announcer ] e pill eachmorning. 24 hours. zero heartbur
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♪ ♪ >> time for one more thing. i'll go first. programming note tonight on kim betterly guilfoyle involved in an important special called "see no evil." the kermit gosnell trial. >> he was inducing labor and he was having these women deliver babies and deliver fetuses. >> something that's important to
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understand the means by which these babies' lives were taken wasn't traditional abortion. they were drugged up and once the baby left the mother's body, taking its first breath, at that point that's how this doctor elected to kill these babies. >> 9:00 p.m. fnc. andre? >> president obama, would not comment on that trial, though he'll comment on a bunch of other things, like trayvon. he also said yesterday in his speech in mexico that he's completely comfortable this plan b thing. remember the president brought up his daughters. he said if they would have a baby, it would be a punishment anyway, representative, steve o stockman questioned liberal logic. he tweeted out democrats on health care, 15-year-olds who want birth control are adults. 26-year-olds who want health insurance are children. that sums it up. >> you're up. >> when i lived in dc, i
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couldn't stand the bike share program. i'm in new york now, i really can't stand it. if you want a bike, get a bike. this is absurd. turns out, if you weigh over 260 pounds, you're not allowed to be in the bike share program. you have to be under 260, which i thought the whole point was to try to get people, to encourage them to ride a bike to have a more healthy lifestyle. this is also just sort of a regulation to regulate. the department of transportation policy?d not going to strictly enforce it. so it doesn't matter anyway. >> i think this is ridiculous. they want a -- >> robert, you're not up yet. >> i'm a big fan of bike share. >> you would be. >> a dude dressed as cher on a bike. thanks for stepping on my joke, dana. well done. as always. >> i didn't see you down there. [ laughter ]
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>> very good. red eye, new one tomorrow. bernie mcguirck, will ron, 11:00 o'clock east coast time. >> who is hosting? >> greg gutfeld. why is it promo pictures never look like who you are. >> you look like a serial killer. >> bob? >> the united states economy added 165,000 jobs. unemployment rate down to 7.5%. the last two unemployment figures were increased, commodities aren't great. stock marks are on a great run. the obama recovery is in full force. >> is this like a rerun from 2004? >> our intern is sadly leaving us today. he has done an excellent job. thank you fort great work you've done. we appreciate it. everybody, can with he get a round of applause [ applause#f$j ] >> thanks for watching. i'm starting my weekend early.
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(speak spanish). >> have a great weekend, everybody. >> have a great weekend, buddy. >> "special report" up next. >> the dow steam roll noose unchartered territory after a better than expected report on jobs. this is "special report". >> good evening. i'm shannon breen. president obama is in mexico. here at home the administration is basking in the glow of one of the best jobs report in some time. ed henry is traveling with the president tonight. >> as president obama continued to trike to talk up an economic resurgence as the focus of his three-day trip south of border. >> let's do more t

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