channel. we'll see you next week for another edition of fox news watch. >> gregg: fox news alert on benghazi terror attack, the names of so-called whistleblowers that know a lot more about the raid have been under raps until now. i'm gregg jarrett and welcome to a brand-new hour inside america's news headquarters. >> heather: i'm heather childers. the state department employee stepping out of the shadows and into the spotlight. now learning the names of those that will testify in a highly anticipated congressional hearing next week. whistleblowers go provide new information on the attack on what went down during that night of terror when gunmen stormed the consulate and set the

compound on fire. the deadly attack on september 11th last year left four americans dead including u.s. ambassador to libya, chris stevens. molly henneberg has the latest. >> molly: these three men are going to tell their stories wednesday before a house committee and two of them have not been heard of publicly before now. there has been much back and forth between republicans and obama administration whether anyone has been prevented from talking to congress about benghazi. one of the men, eric nord strum was the top security officer in libya. he has spoken publicly when he told congress when he said they asked for more security at benghazi consulate and he says was turned down. he has more information he wants to tell congress. the other two men are describing themselves as whistleblowers is

gregg hick are ri and another terrorism official. on what gregory hick maze say on wednesday based on his conversations with republican senator lindsay graham. >> you will surprised to hear what he says about interaction between him and washington. he is in up two guy. he was chris stevens deputy. he was on the phone with chris right before he died. he is going to give you a chilling story and how he felt when he heard susan rice write this off to a spontaneous riot caused by hateful video. >> molly: you can hear more of the interview on huckabee on fox. they were peppered with questions whether the state department or white house were trying to silence the benghazi survivors. they insisted anyone that wants to testify is welcome to.

>> it happened a long time ago. we are unaware of any agency stopping an employee from testifying. >> this has been a closely guarded secret in washington who will provide that information on wednesday. >> heather: there are unanswered questions and later in this hour former ambassador john bolton is here and will share his thoughts on what the hearing might reveal >> gregg: breaking news now outs of syria. israel launching an air strike striking on a shipment of missiles believed to be bound for hezbollah. it's israel's second attack against syria is has as they try to disrupt the pipeline of weapons to syria's militant group. >> reporter: we're getting a better picture of what happened early friday morning when

israeli airplanes struck in syria. the target appears to have been a conventional stockpile as opposed to chemical weapons stockpile there had been concern about. some time early friday morning, israeli jets hit a shipment of long-range missiles reportedly bound for hezbollah fighters in lebanon. they have not responded to the strike so far. urz has been watching for weapons transfer likes this one and beefed up its presence along the border. neighboring countries like turkey and jordan are also concerned that the assad regime may use or trying to transfer chemical weapons on other extremist groups. other fear is al-qaeda will capture some of them. already there is some evidence that the syrian military has used chemical weapons on a small scale against rebels. president obama said it would

cross a red line, but he stopped short of saying what the action would be. this week the white house ruled output go american troops on the ground in syria, but the u.s. has started providing non-military support for the rebels and it could grow in a few weeks. white house is still debating to arm some rebel groups but the white house is taking a cautious approach. >> gregg: thanks very much. >> heather: the u.s. has provided non-lethal aid to insurgents in syria stepping up support lately. the white house has resisted calls from some lawmakers to arm the rebels or establish a new no fly zone to help them out. chuck hagel said the administration is rethinking it's position. >> we are exploring all options to achieve the objectives i just talked about.

these are not static situations. you must always look at different options based on the reality on the ground and based on what you want to achieve, based on the future and international intelligence. >> heather: u.s. intelligence shows that syrians may have used nerve gas against its own people. >> we want to make sure we look before we leap. what we're doing is actually helpful as opposed to making it more deadly or more complex. >> heather: so, there are also concerns that u.s. weapons could end up in the hands of al-qaeda linked groups helping the syrian opposition. >> gregg: fox news confirming five troops are dead in afghanistan. the state department was part of the international coalition were

killed in a roadside bombing in southern afghanistan. we are learning that an afghan army soldier turned his weapon against coalition troops killing two international service members in a so-called insider attack. >> heather: developments in the boston bombing investigation. a search of computers in tamerlan tsarnaev's home turned up an online al-qaeda magazine. that publication is called inspire and it's known for sharing instruction on how to make a bomb. sources say cath russell's, wife of the dead bombing suspect, actually communicated with her husband after the attack during the search for him as and his brother. more problems for the family, fiend go a place to bury tamerlan tsarnaev. david lee miller has the latest. >> reporter: at this hour the body of tamerlan tsarnaev is at a funeral home in worcester,

massachusetts. it was brought there one day ago. some residents have voiced their outrage saying they don't want his remains buried in their community. the owner of the funeral home, all cemeteries have refused to accept the remains but he also says he has seen a shift in the public's attitude. listen. >> completely turned around, 90% in agreement with what we have done. prior to that, the initialmpactu want with them. people have a chance to think about it. >> reporter: a death certificate in this case has not yet officially been filed, but fox news was able to see a copy of the certificate and it lists as the cause of death, quoting now, gunshot wounds to torso and extremities and blunt trauma to

the head. the death certificate that tamerlan tsarnaev was shot by police and then run over by a motor vehicle. heather, one other obstacle impeding a quick burial, the family says it wants its own independent autopsy and so far that has yet to take place. >> heather: run over by a vehicle believed to have been driven by his brother. david lee miller, thank you. >> gregg: a lot of people want to know what tamerlan tsarnaev's wife knew about it, if anything at all and when she knew about it. investigators believed that weapons were built inside the home she shared with the bombing suspect. joining us mary ellen o'toole, former f.b.i. profiler. good to see you. if these bombs were not made in tamerlan's cramped apartment he

shared with his wife, could she possibly have simply turned a blind eye to it, rationalized it? or might she be implicated as a co-conspirator? >> it could be either one of those or somewhere in between. when you have a small area like that, it's absolutely logical that she would have seen something, heard something, smelled something. whether she looked at it as you say, she rationalized it or explain it away, that is possible. to say that she was completely oblivious to it, in my experience where husbands and wives live in a small area, the husband is involved in serious criminal activity, it's not likely the wife was completely unaware of what was going on. >> gregg: what if she was absolutely controlled by him? >> i think that is very good

possibility. investigators are going to be looking at that. controlling is a process that takes a period of time. it's not just the overbearing and demeaning, but it's the process by which the husband would have isolated her, separated her from family and friends. had her engaged in demeaning behavior, embarrassing behavior. it would have taken time for her to get to the point where she would have been what we call a compliant individual. >> gregg: i'm not sure knowledge would be enough that would have to be intent and conspiracy, the law requires an overt act and further answer of the conspiracy. but dzhokar tsarnaev reportedly told the f.b.i. they learned how to make the bombs through an online magazine called inspire and that has been found on katherine russell's computer along with other jihadist

material. it's still another obstacle to prove that she is the one who accessed or downloaded it. it may have been her computer but it may have been somebody else that used it? >> that's right. it could have been a computer that everyone at the home used. they are definitely going to have to take a look at it. investigators will take each little piece and those pieces together will add up to just exactly how much did she know. i think this is extremely important. when you have a really controlling, demeaning individual, they may want you as the wife or the brother to know something, but they don't want you to know everything. so investigators will also be considering that, that he very likely withheld information that only he knew. >> gregg: the other question, did katherine help her his hide from authorities when she

learned that her husband may be responsible. here the law in massachusetts. on accessory after the fact. you have to prove the defendant after the commission of a felony harbors or con seats or maintains and assisted principal felon which would be tamerlan or his brother, knowing that he was an accessory with intent to escape detection. those are three very difficult legal hurdles to overcome? >> they are absolutely very difficult, but the issue is going to be, if charges are filed against her, even if there is a just a minimal amount of information, this is such an egregious case, an attorney is going to say do i have enough to charge her. they are being careful that they don't make a deal with the devil. by that i mean, how much does she know before they can make a deal with her.

>> one last question, officials say that russell called her husband when she saw his photo on television but did not notify authorities which raises questions. is there anyway that they can recover that conversation? i read one counter terrorism expert. some conversations are recorded and can be recovered? >> i think as the conversation that can be recovered based on the type of phone she used in and the current technology. they will do absolutely everything they can to recover that conversation. they will do use every resource possible. they want to know what was spoken between the two of them. >> gregg: mary ellen o'toole, thanks for being with us. >> heather: still to come, thousands of homes are threatened right now at this moment as wildfires rage across

southern california. we are live on the ground for the latest as firefighters try to beat back the flames. >> gregg: and nra holding annual convention this weekend. >> so for those of you in the media who are here that don't understand what we are and what we believe. i'll be crystal clear. we are the moms and dads and sons and daughters of the nra and we want to prevent newtown and not take advantage of that. >> defending the second amendment as it kicks off a convention in the national discussion on gun rights. >> heather: and argo, a hollywood thriller, now here is the real sting. national geographic the american diplomats that were rescued during the iran hostage crisis. two of them are with us to share their amazing story.

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kicking off the annual convention in houston, texas, more than 70,000 expected, largest crowd ever in the group's history and during the event ted cruise challenged joe biden to a debate on gun laws. >> i would like to invite the president. if he believes the answer to violent crime is not prosecuting felons and fugitives but going after the rights of law abiding citizens, i would like to invite the vice president to engage in an hour long conversation and debate. how do we stop crime? >> gregg: the nra executive vice president also addressing the convention and defending the constitutional rights of gun owners. >> we will never fear an absolute did he say makes of the second amendment that needs to be preserved as an american right fully accessible to every

law abiding american citizen. you know what? if the media doesn't like it, we know they won't -- we know where they can go. [ laughter ] >> gregg: we get told that all the time. gun control advocates say they will demonstrate outside today. >> heather: if you are looking for a quick loan to help you get some quick cash, you may have heard something, called pay day loans, they have been around for 20 years, short term advances on your paycheck intended to be paid back quickly. pay day loans cost the u.s. economy nearly a billion dollars. also thousands of jobs in 2011. is it a good idea or can you find a better way to raise quick cash? let's bring in scott, founder of help save my dollars.com. a lot of people need help with

that right now. first of all, explain to us, they have been around for 20 years. what exactly is a payday loan. why are people turning to them? >> a payday loan is a short term loan. it's an advance on your next paycheck. it allows you to access cash now and pay it back two weeks. you can get them from major banks, storefront locations that deal with these types of financial transactions and they are pretty popular. 12 million americans resort to them. >> heather: if you cannot repay in two weeks, what happens? what is the pitfall? >> the interest rate, 200 to 300 percent and sometimes 500% interest rates. this is costing customers tremendous amounts of money. it's interesting because you are using these loans to pay for past expenses and it could be an addiction. >> heather: so a cycle of debt that americans fd themselves

in. how is it affecting the economy overall. how does it affect in terms of jobs, thousands of jobs costing the economy a billion dollars, how does that happen? >> if you have a 300% interest rate on a loan, your personal expenses are now increasing. your customer spending has now dropped. your consumption has dropped. you can't go out and afford to spend money. we lost about $700 million decrease spending and also an uptick 55,000 bankruptcies because of these loans. >> heather: what is being done about it? there is 33 states that currently allow payday loans but 15 have banned them. some of those 33 that are allowing them are taking a second look? >> they are taking a second look. some senators are aiming to put into place a 36% cap on the interest rates, but the problem

with any regulation that the u.s. puts forward is that these payday loans are available in overseas. no matter what we do the problem will still remain. >> heather: it's estimated by 2016, 60% of those loans will be divvied out over the internet from overseas. people are out of a job. people are looking for work. they can't find work right now. what do they need to do or a better solution if they do need quick cash? >> a more cost-effective solution is taking out a cash advance from your credit card where you tap into the credit limit. will you pay a fee of 3-5% but the interest rate is only about 30%. you will have to pay it back. the whole point of a cash advance is you are getting that cash right now and the costs are much less. you can also look into short term loans from a credit union. they are supported by members. they are not out to turn a

profit. >> heather: thank you very much for joining us. gregg? >> gregg: i want to tell you about the fires out of control in california threatening thousands of homes. we are just getting word of firefighters having been rushed to the hospital. we're going to have a live report. >> we are days away from the house committee hearings on the attack in benghazi almost eight months ago. we know the names of three people who are blowing the whistle on events leading up to it. former u.s. ambassador john bolton will be here with his thoughts. okay, team! after age 40, we can start losing muscle -- 8% every 10 years. wow. wow. but you can help fight muscle loss with exercise and ensure muscle health. i've got revigor. what's revigor? it's the amino acid metabolite, hmb to help rebuild muscle and strength naturally lost over time. [ female announcer ] ensure muscle health has revigor and protein to help protect, preserve,

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>>. >> heather: bottom. hour, time for the top of the news, israel confirms it's warplanes launched an attack inside syria. they say the air strike targeted a shipment of missiles bound important hezbollah.

services are being planned for boston's bombing suspect tamerlan tsarnaev. family is having trouble finding a cemetery that will take him. they released death certificate that revealed he die of blunt trauma. >> president met with leaders in costa rica discuss violence, drug trafficking and poverty. >> gregg: big developments on what actually occurred in benghazi, libya last year. four americans including the u.s. ambassador to libya died in that terrorist attack on our diplomatic compound. we have learned the names of three whistleblowers who will testify at a congressional hearing next week. they have been kept under wraps for many months. they might have some fresh information. let's talk to john bolton about it. a former ambassador to the u.n. and now a fox news contributor and senior fellow at the american enterprise instituted.

good to see you. it's been eight months, no u.s. response or retaliation or arrests, nothing. fundamental questions about what happened are unanticipated. will you expect these whistleblowers to officer some answers, for example why no military response? who gave the order to stand down? who was in the situation room? where was the president? >> i think they will be give a lot of information that you say for eight months we haven't had. when i saw the names of positions really these three individuals had, i was stunned. this hearing could be very dramatic given the position they had at the time of the september 11th attack and beforehand and the scope of the information that they could reveal as well as after september 11, what threats or retaliation they suffered from wanting to come forward. >> gregg: would you expect their testimony to undermine or belie

the white house narrative? >> i think it's entirely possible. for example, one is described as the deputy chief of mission in tripoli. number two ambassador to krit stevens. these would know about the requests for security and person in charge of americans in libya do you remember the september 11th attacks. he ought to know minute by minute and know what happened after the attack in terms of the demonstration on the video. >> gregg: when asked about benz this week, president obama seemed to be -- when asked about benghazi, president obama seemed bothered by the question. is that a peculiar response for a president that vowed to the american people he was going to get to the bottom of what happened? >> i don't see how he could not have been aware of the controversy over the past eight

months about the lack of answers to questions that members of the house and the senate have been raising. precisely this point, that has been so contentious, that survivors of the attack in benghazi and others on the ground and official position in libya had not been able to come forward. this is very significant event. four americans including our ambassador were killed. other americans around the region, around the world could be at risk. we need to know what happened. we need to know what happened so we can prevent it again. >> gregg: it's not just a president says he doesn't know anything about it but they dismiss benghazi, that was a long time ago. hillary clinton's famous commented before congress, what difference does it make at this point? is it your sense, this is an administration that really just kind of wants this thing to go away? >> i think that is right. what difference does it make at this point?

as i said, you got official americans and private citizens throughout the middle east at risk from terrorist attacks and their continuing safety depends on our ability to provide protection when the need arises. for the white house press spokesman, eight months a long time ago. eight months is a long time if you have the attention span of a fruit fly. >> gregg: during her testimony, secretary of state clinton at the time said, she knew nothing about requests for more security. she wasn't in the loop. her name is on the cable traffic about that very issue. the accountability review board never bothered to interview her before issuing their report. does that render it's conclusions inherently suspect? >> it's amazing to me that the arb did not interview the secretary. indeed, there are allegations they didn't interview other people, as well. i suppose some of that will come

out of the hearing next week. the fact that clinton's name was at the bottom of the telegram in question, her name is at the bottom of over state department memo. >> gregg: does benghazi undermine the central theme of president obama's presidency that he has reduced the threat of terrorism and would that explain, perhaps, an attempt to cover up some of the truth? >> i think that is why many observers in congress there was a cover-up going on. five days before the attack, the president accepted renomination for president in charlotte and said in his acceptance speech, al-qaeda is on the road to defeat. obviously the al-qaeda affiliated terrorists weren't paying attention. i think it's a real problem problem for the administration. >> gregg: a few days ago, you know the f.b.i. suddenly releasing photographs of three

people on the ground in the special mission in benghazi on september 11th. now, they are asking for help in identifying them. there they are. how in the world can it can explained it took them eight months to release photos that were taken that very day and therefore been in the possession of the u.s. government for eight months? >> you know, the timing of the release of the photos, i think you have to ask the law enforcement people about that. there are obviously there are reasons why they might want to keep the photographs secret. what is critical is not the timing but the notion that early from the day of the attack forward, we know this was a terrorist operation. therefore, for the obama administration to persist for weeks or insist saying that was demonstration it gotten out of control just flies in the face of the evidence. >> gregg: in fact we now know through documents they knew within hours of the attack, two

or three hours. >> they knew all was going on. the people in benghazi weren't under any illusion what was happening. you don't need foreign intelligence. you have to ask the state department's own employees. >> they are accusing the videotape of inexplicable not for days but for weeks. ambassador, thanks very much for being with us. >> heather: and army of firefighters battling in southern california to get a handle on five massive wildfires there. the army is about 4,000 strong in the santa monica mountains more than 43 square miles are torched. the area twice the size of manhattan. authorities are evacuating neighborhoods, thousands of homeowners watching the danger. you can even see it burning from outerspace. look at this image. this is the satellite photo showing the orange there, see a

little orange flames near the california coast. smoke is blowing west across the pacific. dominic is live near malibu with the latest. >> reporter: surprisingly strong start to the fire season. 4,000 firefighters all praying that the weather improves and goes in their favor. it was a hot day yesterday. things have cooled off quite a bit north of malibu. it's about 66 degrees. you go further inland, it's lot warmer than it was yesterday. the spring fire going through ventura county. let's take a look at the statistics. there is about 16 houses that have been damaged so far and four businesses. there are 4,000 homes that are threatened. that really is the big concern there. on top of that, almost 1900 firemen that are battling the flames at the moment.

for some of the residents here, they had many close calls. >> all of a sudden, our field was on fire and was in front of the house. we basically headed out. >> we have lived out here since 2000, to see it that close, you don't expect it to be that close. >> scary thing, fire department is doing a good job. >> and right now they are using controlled burns in hidden valley ahomes there, as well. they are using water and slurry loads and tanker planes dropping loads. we have seen this go overhead around the coast but the big thing will the weather stay in their favor. there is a 50% chance of rain tomorrow and that will quell a lot of flames.

if the humidity can stay up, it was 58% last night. that is going to be help on top of that. hopefully humidity and bad weather possibly coming in they will get ahead of it. >> heather: dominic, be careful out there. thanks. >> gregg: all right. in less than three hours some of the world's fastest horses will thunder out of the gate in an american tradition. that is right. get out your mint julips and live from a soggy churchill downs. >> iranian hostage crisis, in their own words, two survivors join us with an inside look at the real argo. >> the big question is, what is outside the door? we're not sure if we are going sto see people running in at us or what.

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went out a back exit. >> the canadian ambassador's house. >> the revolutionary guards went door to door. >> what we would like for this is bicycles. >> deliver this and provide them with it and send them training wheels and hit the border with gate raid. >> heather: and miracle is exactly what they got. that is from the academy award winning thriller. it was called argo based on the true story diplomats rescued

from iran. some of those who lived through it are sharing their stories locked up abroad that is on the national geographic channel. >> i feel much better at that moment, i think. we were home free. >> tony raised his glass and we raised our glasses and he said argo. >> that is kora joining that toast as they fly to safety. they join us live. thank you so much for joining us today. >> thank you for having us. >> heather: you were just 25 years old when all of this happened. take us back to that day, november 4th, 1979, u.s. embassy

in tehran, when did you know you were in trouble? >> actually about 9:30, a couple of local employees came back from taking a break. apparently they had been chased when they were outside and they said there were people all over the compound. our building was further back so we didn't see the people coming over the fences. >> heather: what did you hear? did you hear anything going on at the time? >> no. we didn't hear anything. it was a 26-acre compound. we did not hear any. activity at the front, but the marines, those of us worked on the floor up to the secretary floor. we contacted the main building to find out what was going on. >> heather: you said it was a kind of moment that you hold your breath. >> i think that is when we were going to leave the building several hours later when we were about to go on out the street and weren't sure what was waiting for us on the other side

of the door. >> heather: why did you decide your story with national geographic? >> primarily, argo is a terrific film, i really like it, but it is the tony mendez story. there is a lot more to our adventure than just the departure that tony orchestrated. i wanted that story to be known, the other parts, canadians in particular that i think were a little shortchanged. >> heather: specifically you talk about the time between when you left the embassy and you took refuge at the canadian diplomat's residence. what happened during that span of the time? it's not addressed in the movie. >> we were basically on our own for six days. we spent one night with the british at their compound. they put us back to the street

in the house of the hostages which was very uncomfortable place to be. bob andrews called his good canadian friend and made the contact that eventually saved us. none of that is mentioned in the movie, but we talk about it a lot on the locked up abroad episode. >> heather: you had flee days to become this hollywood film crew and take over these knew identities. do you remember specifics about each identity that you both became today? >> yes, i was a script writer on the play. my name is theresa harris. we had birth dates and one in vancouver b.c. and i now live about two hours away. >> i was going to say. they made it easy for us. for example, my birthday and my name actually first and middle were my father-in-law's.

so that was a easy thing to remember. >> heather: we are so glad that you and the others made it out safely. its remarkable story. argo was a great movie but i think your real life story is even more amazing. >> locked up abroad. it airs tomorrow at 10:00 p.m. eastern time on the national geographic channel. we will be right back. ♪ playtime is so much more with superhero by your side. because even superheroes need superheroes. that's why purina dog chow is made with high quality ingredients, including 23 vitamins and minals. to helkeep him strong. dog chow strong.

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he overlooks the field and steady now. there they go! war admiral bounding out of stall in front. >> gregg: war admiral beginning his triple crown run back in 1937. the kentucky derby the bluegrass state that horse lovers everywhere look forward to all year long. the gate drops at 6:24 to begin the fastest two minutes in sports. anna is live at waterlogged churchill downs. she can sitting in and hat, do you have a mint julip.

>> i certainly do. how did you guess? there are about 160,000 people at churchill downs. about 130,000 mint julips have been sold. there hasn't been a triple crown winner since 1978 when affirmed won. last year, and day before the belmont stakes. we do have waterlogged race fans. sear sucker and big floply pi hats. they seem to be had n high spirits despite the mud. security is on high alert in particular following the boston marathon bombing. no coolers are allowed inside and no big purses and no backpacks. post time, 19 horses will be racing and two horses have scratched.

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>>. cuts of this size made this quickly, can lose jobs and slow the growth of the economy. >> sequestration is going to get worse. >> there is only one way to truly fix the sequester and that is replacing it before it causes further damage. >> neil: so much for further damage. i'm neil cavuto. on top of the economy, apparently laughing in the face of all that sequestration devastation. those $85 billion in automatic spending cuts, not cutting into the job market, not by a long shot. 165,000 jobs were added in april. get this -- the two prior months were revised to show hundr