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>> this is a fox news alert. three girls who vanished in three separate case were found together in a house in cleveland, just a short time ago. they were teenager when is they disappeared. one in 2003, the other in 2004. michelle knight had been missing since 2002. amanda barry placing a chilling phone call to 911 just before their rescue...
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>> hear more of this 911 call. tonight, police say all three women near good health. a 52-year-old man is under arrest. there are still a lot of unanswered questions. we will have much more inform and a live report in just a few minutes. but first, jodi arias may be brash. she once bragged, no jury will convict me. but tonight, she has to be nervous -- real nervous. the kind of anxiety where her palms are sweating. right now, the fate of her accused boyfriend throat slasher is in the hands of the jury. they have already deliberated 7 hours and 32 minutes. they will be back at work first thing in the morning. >> the defense calls jodi arias. >> did you kill travis alex abdomenner on june 4, 2008? >> yes, i did.
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>> you gave an interview with inside edition. do you remember seeing that tape? >> i am innocent and mark my words, no jury will convict me. >> i was very confident that no jury would convict me because i planned to be dead. those are probably the most bitter words i'll ever eat. >> i ran out of the closet. he was chasing me. i turned around and we were in the middle of the bathroom. i pointed it out him with both of my hands. i thought that would stop him. if someone were pointing a gun at me, i would stop. i didn't know i shot him. >> you say you have memory plbs but it depends on the circumstances, is that right? >> that's right. >> i want to know about a specific circumstance, what factors influence your having a memory problem? >> um, usually when men like you are screaming at me or grilling me. >> were you crying when you were shooting him? >> i don't remember. >> were you crying when you were stabbing him? >> i don't remember. >> how about when you cut his
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throat -- were you crying then? >> i don't know. >> she may not know it, but she may very well have snapped. out of control. sudden heat of passion. we have been through so much and look what happened now. this incident of violence went too far. even after stabbing here over and over again, and even after slashing his throat from ear to ear and then even after taking a gun and shooting him in the face, she will not let him go. but now instead of a gun, instead of a knife, she uses lies.
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>> nice to sigh you, dave. >> thank you, greta. >> now, i understand that you saw jodi arias a short time after your friend was found murdered in the shower. about how long after the murder did you talk to her, or see her? >> well, she kale killed travis about 5:30 p.m. and the next morning, she showed up in utah and tended some of our business function there is during the daytime and then that evening, she and a lot of other business partners, we all went out to eat and had a nice meal together. >> did she act at all unusual or anything strange about her in that -- in that evening and day? >> you know, the first thing that caught my eye was the fact that he we had always known her at as a platinum blonde and she showed up as a dark brunette.
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that stood out. we are talking the middle of june in the desert, 90 to 100 degrees and she was wearing a long-sleeved shirt special her hand was bandaged up. she said she cut her hand at work. so any of those things by themselves don't make you suspicious the that they had gone out and killed somebody. >> you had been quoted as saying before that jodi had no soul. first, is that what you said in and secondly, is that what you mean? >> when you get to know jodi, you know, she spent an entire week at my house when travis and her came up to visit. we probably exchanged, you know, less than a dozen sentences the other time. she just never -- you know, involved herself in letting us know anything about your background, hobbies, likes, dislikes. i just never got to know her as a person. it's probably one of the big reasons i thought travis could
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do so much better than joadzy. >> what was travis like? >> travis was one of the most fun guys you would ever hang around with. it's fairly well documented with the youtube clips out there, he was full of life. whether it was snow mobiling or four-wheeling or cutting it up as a motizational speaker, there was so much life in him. that's one of the things i miss the most, just not having him around to make me laugh like he used to. >> she has admitted that she did tbut she said she committed the murder in self-defense. do you believe her? if not, why do you think she did it? >> you would have to believe -- be a complete moron to believe that story. i mean, let's face it, greta, that's the third vergdz of what really happened. and the only time she changes the story is when there is so much evidence to prove what she is holing to is a complete lie
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that he has to make up a new story. so everyone that knows travis and has known him his entire life knows he is one of the most humane, nice, gentleman you will ever meet in your life. there is absolutely no way there was ever any abuse in this relationship, that she feared for her life. >> dave, thank you. >> you're very welcome. any time. >> so far, 7 hours and 32 minutes. that's how long jurors have been deliberating, at least so far. of course, there were four months of testimony and evidence. for a look at the highlights, try hayden takes you back to the scene of the crime. >> reporter: greta, it begins here, mesa, arizona. this is travis alexander's house, where the crime occurred. right here is where jodi, here on the sidewalk, jodi pulled her car up on that morning. she went up and knocked on the door. travis answered the door. they were in the lower level -- it's a small office down there,
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on the compurt for a short time. they went upstairs. the master bedroom's in the back pedestrian home. they went upstairs and several hours later, travis' life was over. it's a large track home. travis had two roommates at the time of the killing. neither one of them were home. but they came home later, neither discovered the body, it was another friend who discovered the body. the people who bought the home, bought it from the bank. it was in foreclosure. and the people who bought it had no idea. and they were pretty surprised when the media came around and asked them about t. they have a blue ribbon here. that's become the symbol to support travis alax ender's family. it's one of several here in the neighborhood. there is testimony about jeedy sneaking into the home one night. they say she came around this side of the home and went through this gate and was able to get through. she saw travis inside with another woman. >> that's not it. listen to my question -- that night, did you see mr. alexander
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inside that house, yes or no! and inside that house, there was a female, right? >> yes. >> w name of the female? >> he didn't tell me her name. >> reporter: there was talk about her possibly crawling through a doggie door that would be behind that gate. it was a long tale between the two of them. but a lot of what happened between travis and jodi happened in this home. this is where travis lived. jodi spent a lot of time here, even when she lived in arizona, she would spend a lot of time here and spend the night. so this home was the center of what happened. when jodi decided to come out and see travis, she drove straight from southern california, straight to here. there is no timeline. she stopped and got gas in pasadena and jumped in her car and drove straight through and parked here in front of the house, walked right up and rang the door bell and we had our crime. >> troy hayden is live from
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phoenix. troy, the defense is that she was -- it was self-defense and that's why she commit the murder and she is the victim of abuse. the prosecution says this is a premeditated murder. what is the prosecution evidence to show motive? why would she suddenly decide to make the determination to kill her boyfriend? >> lthey are saying that travis sent her an email saying i want you out of my life and you are the worst thing that happened to me. there was speculation, he was going on a trip to mex mexico with another woman. maybe jodi thought if she could talk him into going with her, she wouldn't do that and the prosecution saying that's why she did it after they had sex in the room. >> anything from the jury? >> nothing. the jury walked out of the jury room. didn't make eye contact with anybody, didn't get upset and just went home. a lot of people thought it would be over. the jury's had the case seven and-a-half hours, they are
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saying, what's going on? this is an open-and-shut case. jury instructions, 22 pages. 500 exhibits. three harjs, first-degree murder, second-degree, manslaughter. i think we are getting a verdict tomorrow afternoon, if i had to guess. >> we are going to be standing by and watching. troy, stay with us. during the trial, jurors seeing hours of the police interrogating jodi through wild scenes and we wondered whether that would influence the jury verdict. >> trying to enter, try to kill somebody, i would keep gloves. >> the legal panel in san francisco, jim hammer and here in washington, bernie grim and troy hayden is still with us. this is the wildest craziest moment in the case? >> hopefully, troy is still there. the defense lawyer, her own lawyer, trying to vindicate her
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constitutional rights said word tutses effect -- correct me if i am wrong -- you don't have to like her. in fact, i don't like her 9 out of 10 times -- makes me sick. even hammer, as right as he is, will agree with this. she should maybe get the death penalty or first-deglee murder. but she should get beyond all of that, her constitutional right vindicated. her lawyer doesn't have to be social hour. but my god, if you can't do tget the hell out of the business, do debt collection. >> the one moment that stands out for me is where jodi arias said, no jury would ever convict me. that showed that she is manipulative that she's charming. she believes she could control the jury. it had to have given me-- the defense attorneys heartburn. and if i was the prosecutor in this case, that would have been the first thing i would have said to the jury, ladies and gentlemen, jodi arias said that
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you all will not convict her. the last thing i would have said to the jury, ladies and gentlemen, she believes that throughout this trial, she has manipulated you and you will not convict her. >> jim. >> boy of all the many shocking things in this case, the stalking, and then the night of the murder, the wild night of sex, taking photographs of the man she is about to kill. the photo of him in the shower right before she murdered him, that's the image that the jury will look at. together with the stalking evidence, greta, i think it goes against the idea that this was a sudden rage. she thought about this, she was pissed off about this and she killed the man. >> troy, yours? >> the masterful stroke when basically, jodi started to cry on the stand and juan pounced. she was waiting for that moment and said, were you crying when you stabbed him? were you crying when you shot
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him? were you crying when you slashed his throat and negated that crying. you could tell he had practiced that a few times. >> i think the weirdest part is that she was selling her artwork during the dispriel she's on twitter and makes phone calls and someone tweets. i think she follows donald trump on twitter. >> she follows me. >> she follows you, troy? >> she does, yes. i get on her all the time. she is raising money for domestic violence shelters and all kinds of things. it's interesting. >> she seems so numb. disconnected with the trial. i mean, cases i have represented first-degree murder caisses. you know you won 18 in a row -- >> i did not. bernie always says that -- >> greta has never said it. that's the word on the street. >> that's such a lie. >> i think no matter what comes out of this, i believe that the prosecutor should have entered into an agreement for
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second-degree murder. i think the woman is sick. >> jim, you will get the last word on this. >> the social media doesn't shock me. if it's true and i think it is and she premeditated it and carried on her way, this is a sociopathic person, like scott peterson can pretend he's in paris. this fits the portrait of the kill they're the prosecution's trying to paint. >> we will see what the jury has to say. they may come back tomorrow and a long day tomorrow. to tonight's hot-button issue on gretawire.com. do you, the viewer, have any sympathy for joyed jod or -- for jodi arias or not? vote in the poll. sympathy or not? >> this is a fox news alert. we have more news on more breaking news. three girls have vanished a decade ago in separate cases, all found together. tonight, alive in a louse in cleaveland one girl making a 911
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call after breaking free from the house. now we have the entire terrifying 911 call. here it is. >> i have been kidnap exclude i am missing 10 years and i'm free now. >> 2207 seymour avenue. >> it looks like you are calling from 2210 seymour. >> i can't hear you. >> it looks like you are calling me from 2210 seymour. >> i am at the neighbor, using the phone. >> okay, stay there with the neighbors until the police get there. >> okay. >> thank you. talk to the police when they get there. >> okay. hello? >> yeah. talk to the police when they get there. >> okay. are they on their way right now? >> we will send them as soon as we get a car open. >> no, i need them now before he gets back. >> okay, we are sending them.
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who is the guy -- who is the guy who went out? >> his name is eric castro. >> all right. how old is he? >> he's like 52. >> all right. and -- >> i am amanda berry, i have been on the news for the last 3 years. >> okay. i got that here. you said, what was his name again? >> arial castro. -- >> hispanic. >> what's he wearing? >> i don't know! he's not here right now! >> when he left, what was he wearing? >> [inaudible]. >> the police are on the way. talk to them when they get here. >> i need -- okay. >> they are on the way, talk to them when they get there. okay? >> okay, all right. >> we have the latest. pete, this is one of the most bizarre cases. we covered one of these cases "on the record" some years ago. what's the latest in the investigation? >> caller: well, the latest is that the three young women are
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at the hospital. they have been reported in fair condition. they seem to be doing well. there is a couple of people who were involve here. everybody seems to be doing well. there is such an incredible amount of joy on the street, really probably throughout the city right now that these three women were found alive. you know, it's really an incredible, surreal happening. and as far as the investigation, i don't know we know a lot of details yet. we know that they were -- it appears that they were living with this man on this -- in this house, in this working-class neighborhood of cleveland. and that nob of their neighbors suspected a thing for many, many years. and all of a sudden, amanda berry, one of the three women made this break this afternoon. and the police arrived and now they are free. just an incredible, incredible story. >> did any.
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neighbors ever even see any of these women. i am trying to figure out whether they are tide up in the basement or held hostage or maybe the neighbors saw them but they never -- neighbors ever spot them? >> nobody ever saw them. i have talked to several neighbors. they know the gentleman who lived there in the house. he has lived there for many years. he's very quiet. he keeps to himself. he used to be a school bus driver. i am told he stopped driving a bus about a month ago. people would see him go into his house. he would awls always go to the back of his house, where he would park his pickup truck and motorcycle and always enter the house from the back door. neighbors say they they never saw anybody come andn and out of the front door. the windows have shade. some of the windows are boarded up. they never saw lights on, except a dim porch light at times. nobody, the neighbors we have talked to here, nobody suspected a thing -- for 10 years. >> incredible.
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pete, thank you very much. for the viewers, we are going to have much more throughout the hour. but straight ahead, the jodi arias verdict could come at any time. and anything can happen. you remember the shocker in the casey anthony trial. now the judge from that trial is talking and admitting he was surprised. but that is not all the judge is saying. hear from the casey anthony trial judge, coming up. also, a benghazi whistle-blower is talking and what could shake up the obama administration big-time tonight. senator lindsay grahymn has spoken to the whistle-blower and governor chris christie does it again -- he managed to make a bunch of people really angry. but this time twasn't his mouth that got him in trouble. [ chirp ] all good? [ chirp ] getty up. seriously, this is really happening!
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counterterrorism bureau out of the loop. >> the fact is we have four dead americans. was it because of a protest or because of guys out on a walk one night and decided to kill some americans? what difference at this point does it make? >> it makes a big difference t makes a difference in who is responsible for these men's deaths. >> they, they didn't want the ambassador to die, no, they didn't want the other people to die, but they wanted something else more. >> despite four and a half months after the tragic thing, secretary clinton came to the united states congress and testified that people on the ground made decisions about security. that never happened. >> so when people did die, they
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had a panic circumstance to deal with and that's why we have alll explanations for it. >> when you hear more this week from the whistleblowers, they say it will make you mad. >> nice to see you. >> it will make you mad. >> before we get to the whistleblowers testifying on wednesday, we have information people from the cia want to come out and of it, but they have been told by the cia director brennan specifically they will be pole gravid if they are tied to this. do you have any information to -- >> i her the same story. there are cia agents reaching out. they feel frustrated. the cia generally got it right and they feel lrustrated about what happened that night before and after. we will see where it goes. >> are these cia agents in the ground in benghazi that night or cia agents, people here in washington? >> it's my belief at least one of them was on the ground but
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time will tell. the dam is about to break on benghazi. >> you wrote a letter march 15th to the state department and today you are finally getting one back. and it's from the thomas gibbons active assistant secretary of affairs, and he says, among other things, that he says the department appreciates your rtment diplomaticng to the five security agents who survived the attack. statement we have serious concerns about their welfare and want to be careful not to enter is fear with the fbi's investigation of the attack. should their identities become public they may become targets, putting their lives, as well as their families and people they protect at increased risk. your response, sir? >> completely unacceptable. the five people who were diplomatic security have never been talked to by congress. it's our job to oversee and provide oversight to the executive branch. look what's happened. thank god for the house. jason chaffetz and darrell issa
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pushing this thing. we want the survivors to come forward and we will protect their identity. we want to know what happened. >> did the arb talk to these people do you know? >> i don't know. all we are finding out is that the story told by the state department, susan rice, the president himself, was so completely wrong and false. there's a reason. why did susan rice and the president push this narrative that it was a spontaneous event caused by a hate full video? because if the truth had come out seven weeks before the election this was an al-qaeda preplanned attack it would undercut the narrative bin laden is dead and we are safer. it's no accident that the story told by the washington folks, including the president, was beneficial to the president and disconnected from the reality because we can't talk to anybody who knew it. now you have a guy coming forward called greg hicks. >> you are the first one who spoke to greg hicks.
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>> yes. >> you spoke to him in march. why hadn't he come forward before march? >> one was a professional diplomats that doesn't want to get involve in politics but he's a man in conscious. he knows what happened that night. he's the last guy to talk to chris stevens. he knows it was a terrorist attack from day one. what baffles everybody is how washington could tell a story so different from what actually happened on the ground. there's no other explanation other than the people in washington tell the story had political motivations because the people on the ground are telling us what they lived through is completely different than what the president told the people about. told america about. >> greg things, number two right below the ambassador in libya, why did he wait until march to come forward? >> well, the same reason everybody feels child. i've been asking for survivors to come forward, people who were involved, not just survivors, and every agency in the government are stonewalling. these guys are whistleblowers. they came forward out of
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conscious. greg hicks knew that chris stevens was being thrown under the bus. chris should have never been there. that's the new narrative. they knew he was in benghazi. so the people who knew chris stevens, who lived through this attack, believed that what they went through has been misrepresented. >> all right. there is a note from the state department, one of my notes saying that gregory hicks has an axe to grind against the state department and that's why he's doing it now. >> i think he will tell a story consistent with what we now know to be the truth and the only axe anybody has to grind, including me, is you can't let the government lie to you. you have four americans died and stories about how they died that is a bunch of garbage. >> we will go to the hearing wednesday and watch it and monitor it. >> and there's more coming. >> thank you, sir. nice to see you. >> thank you. >> coming up, you saw it right here on the record. congressman chris started a fight k blaming the republicans for stalling the budget process.
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>> on friday the house budget committee ranking member going on the record. the democratic congressman, he's in the leadership in his party, blaming republicans for stalling the budget process. >> it's a process you go through. in the house we are asking, as we speak, for the speaker to let us all go to conference. he has refused to appoint us and move on. despite the talk about no budget, no pay, right now it's just a fact that the speaker of the house is standing in the way of going to conference on the budget. >> so you are telling me if
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speaker boehner said today these are the people i'm naming to go to conference to represent us in a conference, that would move the budget forward another step? that's the only impediment to the next step in discussing the budget, the house and the senate? >> yes, absolutely. >> what kevin mccarthy had to say about that. he joins us. >> i'm trying to figure out where the stalemate is on the budget process. i've clobbered them for years because they didn't have a budget and they finally have a budget and now the senator is saying it's your party that is stopping it. >> it's kind of outrageous. we finally force the senate into a budget and what is happening now you are going through a process. we pass add budget, the senate passed a budge he. very different budgets. our balances, there is never does. what is happening the two chairman, chairman paul ryan and charm murray are meet to go lay out a framework for an outline what to do in a conference.
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once that gets done we will go to conference. >> what's taking that? it's taken about a month since the vote? >> what is taking it because one balances and one doesn't. >> the whole point of conference you work together and see if you can work something out. >> we are laying the framework to get into conference. van hollen, the congressman, -- >> i think he certainly is a congressman. >> yes, but he's the ranking on budget but he's the former chair and knows the house rules. what he's trying to do is do a maneuver to have political votes on the floor. we are trying to get to a budget. that's something we've always fought for and we are going through the process to make it happen. >> when will there be a conference on this budget? >> as soon as they get to the outline. paul ryan is working with her every day in the process to get there. >> will it be like may, june, december? february? >> look, we're the ones that every time pass one by the deadline ahead of time.
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we are the first ones that want to see a budget because that's when the framework that we start moving this country forward. >> do you have a deadline in your mind? >> i would have like to have done it done by april 15th. >> what's your next one? we passed that one. >> as soon as possible. >> okay. so let me try one more time. like within a month? >> as soon as we -- as soon as they can get together. paul is already meeting with senator mauer ray to get this moving forward. >> okay. let me ask you about debt prioritization. what is that? >> to make sure we do not default when we go through. what we want to make sure is bills get paid, that it does not do damage to the american public. if some reason the president holds up a debt limit crisis in the process, so we want to make sure we pay our bills in the process. we are going to prioritize how to pay them. >> that's because we are get to go the end of the debt ceiling agreement? >> the end of the debt ceiling because there's too much debt. >> the democratic don't like
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this prioritization idea. >> why would you not like to prioritize? >> i'm just telling you, this is one. your areas -- >> are they owe posing something just to oppose something? by doing a debt prioritization what you are saying is you are making sure america never has the problem that they get downgraded within their credit of looking bad. we aren't prioritizing when we borrow from somebody, we will take our debt." we are prioritizing going forward. >> if it's such a good idea why don't you all agree on it? >> isn't it a good idea to have a balanced budget, too, but only one side grease with that, the republicans. at the end of the day if you have $100 of bills and you only have $80, the current system says you can't pay any. that's idiotic. why don't pay $80 worth? >> one more question. will there be a tax on online sales? it passed in the senate but do you expect there to be a tax on online sales? >> i think you have to see it go through committee inside the house. right now in the process, it has
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to go to judiciary. it doesn't go to weighs and means. the judiciary takes up a lot of other items evans what's your guess looking at the membership? >> the membership is not high on taxing people. i don't know if that's new news. that's not breaking news. >> not breaking news. >> congressman, thank you. nice to have you. >> thanks for having me. >> there is breaking news. three girls who vanished years ago all found alive. and there is more and the chilling 911 call from one of the victims. that's next. and a huge controversy over the burial of the accused boston bomber. what should be done with the body of tamerlan tsarnaev? wait until you hear what his all business purchases. so you can capture your receipts, and manage them online with jot, the latest app from ink.
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charged with lying to the fbi in the days after the bombing. he will now be put on strict house arrest and his mother will take responsibility for him. also tonight, there is new information the fight over the burial of tamerlan tsarnaev. no one can agree on what to do with the body of the accused bombing mastermind. many massachusetts residents don't want him buried in their state. what does the family want? the mother wants her son's body return to russia for burial, but get this, she wants us to pay to send his body to russia. so what do you think about that? is she out of her mind to and for the money or is it the money to get the accused terrorist out
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one of the victims making a desperate call for help after breaking free from that house. >> 911. >> help me. i'm amanda berry. >> you need police, fire or ambulance? >> i need police. >> okay. what's going on there? >> i've been kidnapped and i have been missing for ten years and i'm here. i'm free now. >> right now all three women are in a cleveland hospital. late tonight the hospital giving this update. >> just to give you a brief update, currently they are safe. we are in the process of evaluating their medical needs. they appear to be in fair condition at the moment. >> pete joins us again with an update. pete, i'm curious if the neighbors had anything to say about this man? >> well, yeah. they said that he was very private, he was quiet, he really didn't cause anybody any trouble. they also didn't know much about
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him. some of the neighbors said he would come home and he would park his pickup truck and his motorcycle back behind the house, lock the gate and go in the back door. then they would see no signs of any life inside the house. windows had their shades pulled. some of the windows were boarded up. there would occasionally be a dim light on the porch, but other than that they knew nothing going on inside there. >> did they ever talk to him, say he was sort of the neighborhood weirdo or anything like that? any sort of reference to him, wave to him or any communication other than to see him slink into his house? >> no. and he didn't really slink around. he would walk by, he would say hi. they would greet him and he would greet others, from what i am told. he drove a school bus for a while up until about a month ago. yeah, there was no indication to any of the neighbors that, you know, there was anything of this
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kind going on inside this house, which seems almost unbelievable given how long they were in there and the fact they were apparently -- there was apparently a child or two, very small children living this there, too. >> did anyone get a look at the three women as they left the house, whether they looked healthy and they had been eating and looked good or whether they were sick? >> i don't know anything about their appearance. i know there were a lot of pictures on facebook now and so forth. i have been kind of been on the ground going from house to house so i miss interested of that. but i understand from what the hospital is saying that the three women are in fair condition, which -- and they are safe, which, you know, seems to me that's extremely good news after being in captivity like that for ten years. >> indeed, it is, pete. the story is so weird. it would be so unbelievable if we hadn't heard other similar stories in the last few years like this.
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pete, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> coming up, while we wait for the verdict in the jodi arias jury trial,s judge in another case is suddenly saying some shocking things. wait until you hear what the casey anthony trial judge has said. you will hear from him coming up. and governor chris christie ♪
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the trial court judge. now he's telling all to the "today" show. >> there were two sides of casey. there was the side where she portrayed the role of a mother who lost a child, someone who was wrongfully accused, then you could notice the change in transformation when the jury went out. she was very commanding, she took charge of different things, and you could see her sometimes scolding her attorneys. >> what did you think when you opened the envelope and read that verdict? >> surprised. shock, disbelief. >> i think you told me you read it twice. >> i just wanted to be sure i was reading what i was reading. >> and when you say that, is it because, i don't want to put you on the spot too much, but did you think the prosecutors had proved her guilt beyond a reasonable doubt? >> yes. i thought they had proved a great case, but you have to
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