about grasshoppers. a swarm invaded the stage as he was performing but mccartney kept on going like a pro. >> we hope you have a great day. see you back here at 9:00 with bill hemmer. >> have a great day, folks. >>gretchen: good morning everybody. it's thursday, may 9. i hope you're going to have a fantastic day. thanks for choosing "fox & friends" today. i'm gretchen carlson. disturbing new details from that cleveland house of horrors. fed through holes and forced to give birth in a kitty pool. plus why they never tried to escape before. live at the scene with exclusive new information. >>steve: the benghazi bombshells. what happened on the ground when nearby rescue teams were told to stand down and not save their fellow americans? >> it's the first time in my career that a diplomat

has more balls than somebody in the military. >>steve: more of that testimony that may prove a national security coverup straight ahead. >>brian: the verdict for jodi arias is guilty. so now what? >> i said years ago that i'd rather get death than life and that still is true today. >>brian: that exclusive interview this hour. she wants death and that will all start today. "fox & friends" starts now. >>steve: today ariel castro expected to make his first court appearance in cleveland. the 52-year-old former bus driver, the lone brother to be charged with the kidnapping and rape of three women in his hell hole house. meantime two of the three hostages make an emotional return to their houses.

that's gina dejesus giving a thumbs up in front of the crowd. right now ainsley earhardt is live on the street in cleveland with new chilling details about what went on. >> good morning, brian, gretchen and steve. steve, you are right. they're describing this house as a hell house. a woman or anyone's worst nightmare. being fed through holes in the doors of their bedrooms. apparently the babies that many people have been asking questions about, michelle knight pregnant five times. each time she would get pregnant, castro would allegedly starve her for two weeks and then kick her in the stomach so she would lose these babies. amanda berry allowed to obviously keep her child and deliver that child. we're being told that child was delivered in a kitty pool with the help of pherbt pheurbt. the baby comes -- with the help of michelle knight.

the bay comes out, is not breathe and we're told castro said if this baby does not survive, i'll kill you. many women why these women didn't gang up together and try to leave at some point during that ten-year period. we asked that question yesterday and here's the response. >> were there drugs involved? was ariel castro drugging these girls to prevent them from escaping? what window of opportunity allowed them to escape this time? >> number one, we're not positive about any type of drugs. if they were drugged, that's yet to be determined. number two, the only opportunity after interviewing the young ladies to escape was the other day when amanda escaped. so they were in that home. they don't believe that they have been outside of the home for the last ten years respectively. >> he mentioned when amanda

escaped on monday that was the first opportunity she had a chance to escape, police told me over the last ten years. that the front door happened to be left unlocked or open in some capacity. she busted through that aluminum and was able to alert the neighbors in that neighborhood at the time. berry said she was very scared at first when she was trying to escape because she says castro would often unlock doors in and around the house, wait for the girls to try to escape. he would lurk around the house in the bushes or wherever and then jump out and scare them and beat them and attack them if they would try to escape. thankfully he wasn't there at the house on monday and she saw that window of opportunity. we're also learning more about how he lured these girls to his house. we're being told, michelle knight, he offered her a ride home. instead of taking her home, he took her to his house. amanda berry was working at burger king, called her sister said kaoeuplg home, i caught -- i'm coming home, i caught a ride, apparently with castro who said i'm waiting for my son

who works at burger king, i'll give you a ride home. he took amanda to his house there and kept her for ten years. >>brian: i get the sense the police are pushing back on all those claims about people saying they saw a woman holding a baby, people saying naked women with collars in the backyard. police seem very forceful in saying got two calls over the last ten years. are you getting that sense? >> yeah, 100%. the police are saying -- anyone in the neighborhood saying they called 911, that is absolutely not true, according to them. they have gone back through the data bases over the last decade to find out if anyone called 911. they said that never happened until monday when amanda berry made that 911 call. >>gretchen: apparently it is true that castro would take the six-year-old out and about with him. those neighbors' claims were probably true. ainsley, great job. >>steve: we learned one other thing about the six-year-old baby.

her name is joycelyn. apparently she was born six years ago on christmas. >>brian: what did you think about the testimony yesterday? >>steve: rivetting. >>gretchen: especially from gregory hicks. emotional from eric nordstrom as well because he misses the four americans who were killed and feels that they and their families deserve answers. >>brian: here's the sense i got. obviously elijah cummings, a big pushback. he wanted everyone to know i'm not questioning the integrity of the whistle-blowers. i am questioning the objective of republicans looking to make political gains. then game on. make your statements and make your decisions. >>steve: it was clear from mr. hicks -- he was highest-ranking official in charge since ambassador stevens was missing at that point. he was in tripoli. mr. hicks is center stage right there. they decided early a team of special operators should go in. but the team was told to stand down, and mr. hicks

believes that call came from the military. there's mr. nordstrom right there. when they were told to stand down, it hit the fan. here's congressman chaffetz and mr. hicks. >> how did the personnel react to being told to stand down? >> they were furious. i can only say -- well, i will quote lieutenant colonel gibson. he said, "this is the first time in my career that a diplomat has more balls than somebody in the military." >>gretchen: the big question is: who is lieutenant colonel gibson? there's a lot of research going on. was he the one -- he apparently was the one who was told not to provide this security or to go to libya. but who told him that? that's still the unanswered question this morning. there are a series of unanswered questions. you've got to wonder if they're going to continue to have more hearings. they are asking more whistle-blowers if they know anything to come forward. >>brian: hicks already paid the price.

he essentially said i'm in a position of emotion. he's been told not to express differing views from ambassador rice. in terms of the actual military, the pentagon for the first time did speak up. they do not back off their statement that it would have done no good to implement that fighting force into the action, which hicks is saying what should have been done, is they wanted to secure the airport as an evacuation site at least in tripoli because these guys had been fighting all night. >>gretchen: i think the interesting thing will be instead of debating which strategy would have been better is was there actually an order given to not go and help. to me. that would be the closest smoking gun. in the meantime, the other way in which the administration decided to turn the story -- remember it was on the videotape because there had been an uprising in egypt because of that youtube videotape. maybe they thought they could hide this attack under the same umbrella. watch this exchange.

>> i was stunned. my jaw dropped, and i was embarrassed. >> did she talk to you before she went on the five sunday talk shows? >> no, sir. >> you were the highest-ranking official in libya at the time; correct? >> yes, sir. >> and she did not bore to have a conversation with you before -- and she did not bother to have a conversation with you before she went on national television? >> no, sir. >>brian: like his prepared remarks before, he said when that statement was made the libyan president was so mad he looked like a liar on four u.s. national shows that he delayed the entire investigation. so those who are wondering why the f.b.i. was taking so long to get on the ground, they could not get the green light from the libyan government because they were so ticked off about the disclaimer put on bob chaffetz and everybody

else. >>steve: the day after the attack there was an e-mail saying she told the libyan government the attack was carried out by terrorists. the next time mr. hicks had a chance to talk to assistant secretary beth jones she said why did this go on? her reaction was i don't know and made it clear from her tone that he should shut up. next thing you know, she delivers a blistering critique of his management style and he was demoted from deputy chief of mission to desk officer in his mind because he challenged susan rice's assessment that it was a video because everybody in the state department knew the day after -- actually the day of it was terrorism. >>gretchen: that was apparently the first bad review he received on the job, which makes it suspicious to say the least. yesterday jay carney, spokesperson for the president, called the

rearranging of the talking points stylistic changes. you be the judge on that. many unanswered questions. >> more trouble for carnival cruises this morning. after two passengers are reported missing, a search began after the carnival spirit docked in sydney, australia. reports say a 30-year-old man and 26-year-old woman may have fallen overboard. this comes as the carnival triumph set sail for the bahamas. it will undergo more repairs after breaking down in mexico. the newly revamped carnival sunshine having problems with cabins and still had unfinished deck work after setting sail. >> a search for a man who went missing in michigan. police confirm jessica heeringa's blood was found at the scene. last week they released this video showing a van believed to be connected to her abduction. investigators say they are rushing to gather any information about her disappearance.

>> he was c.e.o. of enron when fraud wiped out $2 billion of employee pensions and $60 billion of stocks became worthless but jeffrey skilling just cut a deal to get out of prison more than a decade early. the deal was made based on his good behavior. he could be out by 2017 and would have to pay $40 million in restitution. skilling has always maintained his innocence. >>brian: he still got $40 million? >>steve: he earned it. >>gretchen: jodi arias guilty as charged. today she will be back in court to find out if she'll be put to death. she was found guilty of murder in the first degree for stabbing and shooting her boyfriend travis alexander in 2008. alexander's family and friends openly cried after hearing the verdict. >> i said years ago that i would rather get death than life, and that still is true today. >>gretchen: why would she rather be executed? more of this exclusive interview coming up at 6:30

a.m. maybe she's manipulating the jury pool. i'm surprised she was allowed to give an interview. the way they do trials there is fascinating. >>brian: straight ahead, should the amber alert system be changed? our next guest says absolutely yes. his daughter was kidnapped and murdered and he has advice for authorities from here on in. >>steve: did you know our founding fathers got it wrong? just ask comewoman sheila jackson lee -- just ask congresswoman sheila jackson lee. >> although health care was not listed in the constitution, it should be a constitution right. >>steve: what do you think about that? we're watching "fox & friends" live from new york friends" live from new york city. [ male announcer ] it's simple physics... a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion.

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>>gretchen: i know the pain never goes away for you but you've made it your life mission to try alleviate this pain for other families. when you look at those stats of how many kids go missing -- we were thinking about this on the show yesterday -- why is the default position of the police in so many of these cases to go to runaway instead of abduction? >> that happens a lot less frequently these days than it did back in 1993. but by saying that the child is a runaway basically absolves law enforcement of any responsibility for going to find the child. that having been said, statistics on runaways are staggering. there are between 1.6 million and 2.8 million runaways on the streets of america on any given day. >>gretchen: it makes sense that might be the first thought process but in the very first minutes and hours don't you glean the most information possible if it was an abduction? >> sure. what you want to do is listen to the family. the family will give you a

good idea as to whether a runaway scenario is even possible. if the child is living a good life, happy life, looks forward to getting up every morning and doing things the next day and doesn't have, you know, a lot of outside interests, the chances of that child being a runaway are slim to none. that's when law enforcement has to start listening very carefully, taking in everything that the family has to say and utilizing that as they assess the situation. >>gretchen: apparently in this case one of the young women, skwr-d -- gina dejesus, apparently her family pointed the finger at ariel castro because he was the bus driver and said to the police please release a sketch or something. i guess this falls in line with what you're talking about. the gut of the family is so important. >> the gut of the family, the gut of the kids. instinct is huge in our country. i mean, it's huge in the human condition. if something feels wrong, it probably is wrong, and

then you have to do something about it. the statistic i saw very recently is that about 10% of perps reinsert themselves back into the case as this guy did. and this guy was known to the family. i mean, this was a very, very close -- this was a very local kind of a situation. >>gretchen: i know you say with the budget cuts in police departments across the country it's regular old citizens like you and i who need to come together in some way and form these neighborhood packs to look out for our kids. i've got to wrap it up there, mark but appreciate your thoughts this morning. thanks so much. >> she claims she knew nothing, so why did the wife of the boston bomber just lawyer up with a guy known for defending terrorists? one congresswoman said the founding fathers really wanted to pay for universal health care. >> although health care was not listed per se in the constitution, it should be a constitutional right. >>gretchen: stuart varney

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>>steve: some quick headlines. he was the original voice of charlie brown. >> this time i'm going to kick that football clear to the moon! >>steve: peter robbins, the voice of charlie sentenced to one year behind bars for threatening his ex-girlfriend and stalking her plastic surgeon. but the judge sent him to rehab instead. he's already served four months behind bars. >> a royal visit to washington. today prince harry kicking off his six-city tour. this afternoon his first stop will be capitol hill

honoring soldiers at arlington national cemetery and visiting veterans at walter reed hospital in suburban washington, d.c. >> brian, over to you. >>brian: included in your constitutional rights, health care. did you hear about that? this democratic congresswoman seems to think so. here's what she had to say while defending obamacare. here is sheila jackson lee. >> what should be continually emphasized is the president's leadership on one single point that although health care was not listed per se in the constitution, it should be a constitutional right. one might argue that education and health care fall into those provisions of life, liberty and a pursuit of happiness. >>brian: stuart varney, is sheila jackson lee speaking for other people? do you think other people believe what she's saying? she is not among the leadership in the house. >> that is a good question. i think she reflects the world view of president obama. president obama thinks all

government all the time provide everything for everybody. basically ms. lee and the president are saying the following: you need something. therefore, you have a right to it. and i'm reading that right into the declaration of independence and into the constitution. you need food, you need health, you need housing, you need education, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. you need it. you therefore have a right to it. i'm not a constitutional scholar, but i think that reflects the world view of president obama. >>brian: i found it interesting, in march of 2012, nancy pelosi indicated the same thing. she said obamacare was necessary for a healthier life, liberty and pursuit of happy that health care and education might provide to the same thing. jefferson screwed up. he should have penned that. >> go forward for a second. obamacare is under serious attack. there is the possibility it could be appealed in full. i think the democrats are circling the wagon and

saying wait a minute, if it is a constitutional right, if you can read it into the declaration of independence, you can't repeal this thing because it is a basic right. get off my back. you can't appeal it because it's constitutional. >>brian: we'll talk with senator max baucus a little bit later. he's one of the democrats who pushed it through and he says it's essentially a train wreck waiting to happen. stuart varney, we're going to watch you on varney and company meeting at 9:20 eastern time. do you know what you're watching? >> i shall be watching these clothes and watching the stock market go up again. >>brian: time to shift your 401(k). >> it may be too late. >>brian: straight ahead, all that's left of his home after hurricane sandy is an empty lot. so why did he just get a utility bill for $1,600. >> get out the grill. summer is right around the corner. >> i love the smell of ribs in the morning. don't you, maria molina?

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she has someone picking out her clothes daily, but this floral frock -- i can say that, can't i? grabbing the attention of a normally quiet actor. robin williams saying -- quote -- "i think i wore it better." evidently when you're with child, you should wear black clothing. plain clothing. you should not be wearing prints. evidently her arms looked -- >>gretchen: with pregnancy wardrobe advice, let's go to one of the two males on the set. >>brian: if you're pregnant out there and wearing something floral, take it off. what you do is you wear black clothing, plain clothing. she also wore a sleeveless dress. evidently the word was from her designer, your pregnancy arms are flabby. let's put sleeves on you. >>gretchen: can you now give labor, guys?

oh, my goodness. >>steve: our question to you: who wore it better? when you look at mrs. doubtfire, the cross dresser, or kim kardashian? who looks better in that outfit? e-mail us friends@foxnews.com. >>gretchen: definitely goes to kim kardashian, but mrs. doubtfire, one of my top two best ever movies. >> she said she would rather die than spend the rest of her life in prison. jodi arias speaking exclusively to fox after being convicted of the murder of her boyfriend. >> jodi arias could be back on the stand today as the jury must decide if she murdered travis alexander with cruel intent. if so they could deliver the death sentence. and she says death is all she wants. >> the worst outcome for me would be natural life. i would much rather die sooner than later. longevity runs in my family and i don't want to spend

the rest of my natural life in one place, you know. i'm pretty healthy. i don't smoke and i would probably live a long time. so that's not something i'm looking forward to. i said years ago i would rather get death than life and that still is true today. i believe death is the ultimate freedom. i would rather have my freedom as soon as i can get it. >> travis alexander's family and friends openly cried inside the courtroom five years after he was shot and stabbed to death. arias with her cheer quivering shed a single tear during the verdict. the penalty phase is expected to take one day. if the jury determines there was no cruel intent, death will be off the table and a judge could sentence arias in as little as three days. >>steve: thank you very much. meanwhile, we've got other headlines on this thursday morning. today ariel castro expected to make his first court appearance in cleveland. the 52-year-old suspect is expected to be charged with the kidnapping and rape of

three women in his home over the last ten years. >> new disturbing details being revealed. cops reportedly found a suicide note from castro dated 2004 blaming his victims. we also found out how the girls were kept inside that house of horrors. >> were they kept together in one room? >> they were not in one room, but they did know each other and they did know each other was there. >>steve: we are also hearing that the three were treated to a repulsive annual ritual of being served cake on the anniversary of the day they were abducted. >>brian: the widow of the boston bomber hired a criminal lawyer, one who defended terrorist suspects at gitmo. this comes as the brother-in-law of tsarnaev said she had no

involvement. >>gretchen: a teenager charged in the soccer death of the referee. charged with homicide by assault after punching the referee in the head during an argument over the penalty call last month. portil a coma and died. >>brian: the owner of this house destroyed during hurricane sandy still got a huge utility bill. now they are up to 1600 bucks. charges were based on estimated readings for meters when a blaze consumed his neighborhood. the power company says he won't have to pay, though. >>gretchen: how many other people in those homes got charged? >>brian: you mean in those lots? >>steve: take a look at this. severe storms battering the grand canyon. that's right. lightning so close, it actually appears to hit the national landmark. maria molina is outside because it's national

barbecue month. just out of curiosity, it's going to be a stormy day today all across the country, isn't it? >> it's a pretty active day across the country. we have showers anywhere from the northeast, which we have falling right now in new york city, and as far west as parts of the rockies. parts of california has had to deal with showers. temperatures spring-like across the country. let's focus on areas of heavy rain across parts of oklahoma, missouri, up into iowa. very heavy rain early this morning. it will be a slow morning commute for you guys as you head out to work. we have a threat for severe storms across parts of texas, kwro*ebg -- texas, oklahoma. do heed the warnings. a quick look at temperatures, in the 80's widespread across the southeast. dave, that sounds like perfect temperatures for barbecues. it is actually national barbecue month.

who better to have with me than dave anderson from famous dave's. you've won over 700 awards including best barbecue sauce. you have a barbecue party cookbook. >> just coming out. maybe national barbecue month, what a perfect way to get ready for this summer and learning about how to barbecue. we've got some really tasty recipes. we've got our burned ends which has been doing phenomenal. a lot of people don't know what burned ends are. they are the briskets. people when they see briskets, they normally get the slices of the brisket which comes off the brisket from the front here. what happens when you get a burned end, when you're smoking a brisket 15 hours -- and that's what gets it so tender, so juicy -- is all the juices start to rise to the top. when we first rub it with the brown sugar and the

seasonings and black pepper, juices starts to run to the side. what you get is the burned ends. >> you cut the ends off here. >> what we do is we cut the ends off. and this has been a real secret in the world of barbecue because typically folks would never see the burned ends. but at famous dave's, we've been able to smoke enough briskets where everybody gets enough of this juicyness. >> we put these on the grill? >> right. we'll take this and put it on a hot grill. >> and barbecue sauce. it looks delicious and smells delicious already. >> we're going to carmelize the sauce on here. >> sounds good. we've got to go. steve, we're going to keep cooking out here and we'll bring some inside for you to try. >>steve: bring in some of those burned ends. they look fantastic. famous dave and famous maria, thank you very much. >> it's equal to half a cup of coffee and now it's being pulled off the sh*els

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fox news senior judicial analyst judge andrew napolitano. good morning to you. a lot of people are talking about hillary clinton appeared before congress, she swore on a bible that she would tell the truth. a lot of people are wondering if what she said is accurate or true. >> she wouldn't be prosecuted for perjury or misleading congress based on contradictory testimony from somebody else. there would need to be additional corroborating evidence supporting the person who contradicted her and directly contradicting her. the house committee that started the hearing yesterday is looking for things not to impeach her, because she's out of office, but to get at the truth. the bigger picture here is what did the president know? when did he know it? what did his administration know? when did they know it? this is almost the nixon model when the house judiciary committee voted

articles of impeachment. is this a coverup? is this interference of a criminal investigation orchestrated by the white house for political purposes? in the watergate case there was a third-rate break-in. in this case it affects profound national security interests and the deaths of four innocent americans. >>steve: when you're talking coverup, you're not talking about susan rice who went on those talk shows and lied to the american people about what happened? >> no. i am talking about that but i'm also talking about other things that the witnesses talked about yesterday, like stand down. what do you mean stand down? they're invading the place! i'm talking about even as late as recently as this morning, the administration denying that anything was inappropriate in its response. the troops were too far away. we couldn't have gotten them there any way. >>steve: sure. when it comes to the response of the investigation, mr. hicks made it very clear. he's a career diplomat

working for the department of state. he made it clear yesterday the department of state told him you want to talk to anybody, take the lawyer. here he is. >> didn't you say, mr. hicks, in my first round that this was the first and only time this had ever happened, where someone from the state department accompanied a congressional visit. and you were instructed specifically by the state department, do not talk to congressman chaffetz or anyone else on the delegation who was there without this lawyer being present? >> that is correct. >> mr. hicks is a national hero, a, because of his work for the country. and, b, because of his willingness to expose the misdeeds of his superiors, one of which is that. when the state department says don't tell the truth, what are they hiding that we have the right to know, that the congress has the right to know? >>steve: the big question is where does this go from here. if there is a select committee, that could amp things up, couldn't it? >> hard to believe that barack obama would be

impeached in this environment. but it is not hard to believe that his presidency would be seriously damaged when democrats come to realize that he and the truth are strangers on this. >>steve: it was clear yesterday that a number of democrats on the committee have more questions, so it looks like there will be some sort of round two. >> they have to run for reelection. they have to answer to the people in their districts. are you interested in the truth or are you interested in protecting the president who dug a hole for himself on this one? >>steve: judge, thank you very much. a dozen minutes before the top of the hour now. he fed them through holes in the doors and forced one of the victims to give birth in a kitty pool. -- in a kiddie pool. how did ariel castro lure his victims into that house of horrors in cleveland? coming up. >> you don't hear from the sopranos but now this tough guy says throw out everything you know about being a dad. he explains how to raise

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>>brian: he's remembered for his role as tony soprano's brother-in-law but nothing tested him like being a dad and he explains it in his book "big daddy's role: raising daughters is tougher than i look." here he is. i was laughing out loud on the train book. >> i'm very proud of it. it's a humorous look at parenting. there's some cursing in

there. but, you know, that's like the way i talk. >>gretchen: that's your disclaimer up front. here's the thing. what i think people are going to love about this is that it's old-fashioned parenting to a certain extent? >> absolutely. like a 1940's parent. i'm not a liberal guy. i think what i think about raising the kids, and this is what i've carried out. and so far i've done pretty good. i'm not an expert but this is what i've done. >>brian: you think boys are easy and girls are the big challenge. >> boys, you give them a ball, they're fascinated. girls, they are cunning, they bat their eyelashes. there is a lot going on with the girl. the boy, here's a ball, go in the other room. >>steve: you made it safe and easy. you've got four rules. here they are. this is how you raise your daughters, folks. first of all, because i said so. do not be afraid to say no. be present. and take charge. let's start with "because i said so."

>> four most underrated words. what's wrong with saying "because i said so"? >>brian: why do i have to do this, dad? >> the biggest big daddy rule is i make the rules. i'm paying for you. i'm raising you. everything is good. i know better than you. >>gretchen: i feel like a broken record. i know that. >> i never thought i would be saying it, "because i said so." how tkoeupb it works? -- how do i know it works? because said so. >>brian: do not be afraid to say no. >> i'm your father, not your friend. no one cares about you like i care about you. a lot of parents -- i work too hard. my kids aren't going to control what i do and where i go. the kid wants to go to the concert, the parents are afraid. we've got to get tickets, got to go. we've got to change things around. hey, you can't go tonight.

i'm with your mother. go read a book. >>brian: you say be present. be there for them. >> that is the biggest thing. take charge. be present whether you're there or not, you know. i've instilled stuff in them, me and my wife, what we think. be there. let them think about it. if they're at the party. should i drink this beer. i've got to go home and there will be consequences because i'm waiting up. i'm waiting up. i'm going to kiss you good night. >>gretchen: look at these photos. i love it. >>steve: one of the reasons you wrote the book is because you and your beautiful wife went out of town and said listen, when i'm gone, nobody coming over. well, you found evidence. >> we went to san francisco. the first time we left them alone together. my daughter was a junior in high school. we came home. everything was fine. i never thought it would happen in a million years. my wife saw a bunch of footprints on the floor. sure enough, she had a

party. she had a party, and we were -- i mean -- >>gretchen: what did big daddy say? >> i was so life individual, i can't -- i was so livid, i can't begin to tell you. >>steve: what did you take away? >> everything. the phone, the computer. we were so disappointed. i told her i had her on camera from the doorman and i wanted every name. she wrote every name down. i didn't have it on camera. she just found that out when i wrote the book. she confessed. i said i was going to call everybody. >>brian: admiral stevens said you are a self-made success story who came from nothing. you had a horrible upbringing and you worked hard to be this exceptional parpb -- parent and you get an award. >> thank you. i'm not an expert but if i'm going to make a mistake, it's going to be my mistake. >>gretchen: great to see you. want to know the secret to a long life?

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an intense burning sensation i woke up with this horrible rash on my right side. like somebody had set it on fire. and the doctor said, cindie, you have shingles. he said, you had chickenpox when you were a little girl... i said, yes, i did. i don't think anybody ever thinks they're going to get shingles.

but it happened to me. for more of the inside story, visit shinglesinfo.com >> gretchen: good morning, everybody. it is thursday, may 9, 2013. thanks for choosing "fox & friends" today. i'm gretchen carlson. hope you're begun have a great day. decade long nightmare over. we have an exclusive interview inside the home of gina dejesus as learn new details from inside the house of horrors. like why the girls could never escape until after ten years. >> brian: the benghazi bombshells, what happened on the ground when rescue teams were told to stand down while their fellow americans were under attack. >> he said, this was the first time in my career that a diplomat has more balls than somebody in the military. >> brian: it wasn't them. they were ready to fight. they couldn't get permission. more of the explosive testimony that may prove a national

security cover-up. >> steve: and she's a country music legend and she's still working even though it's not nine to five. ♪ the traffic starts jumping with folks like me on the job from nine to five ♪ ♪ working -- >> brian: now everybody. >> steve: that's right. dolly parton joins us live from tennessee and about to make a huge splash. "fox & friends" hour two for tuesday starts right now. >> brian: 9 to 5 doesn't work for morning show host. >> steve: can you imagine nine to five hours. >> gretchen: it means 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., we sleep. something like that. let's talk about what happened. there are so many big news stories yesterday. benghazi was front and center yesterday as the so-called whistle blowers came to capitol hill to testify.

there you had mr. thompson, mr. hicks, and mr. nordstrom in that order. so really, what did we learn yesterday? we learned that obviously these three felt it was a terrorist attack from the get-go and they gave testimony that ambassador stevens also believed that he was under attack from the get-go. had nothing to do with this videotape. we learned officially mr. hicks was -- his jaw dropped when he heard ambassador susan rice say it was a videotape almost a week later. we also heard security was not called for or that somebody told them to not go and help. but didn't he hear enough concrete, absolutely explosive testimony that's going to make anyone say this was a cover-up. >> brian: we found out congressman chaffetz, told to not give him information when he got on the ground in libya, in tripoli to find out information for himself. what was that like? to make that trip, come over there and find out later you were intentionally stonewalled. >> steve: the guys and gals in libya decided, you know what?

our best option is have a group of special ops guys and help and they were told to stand down. the special ops people. the big question is who asked them to tan down, because to a lot of people's understanding, the only people who could say stand down would be the president of united states or leon panetta. >> brian: you're telling people to stand down, you have no idea when the attack ends. it could have ended in 16 hours. how long would we stand down? nobody was scrambled. no tankers brought over. >> steve: when they were told airplanes two or three hours away in italy and something else happened hours after that, it would have made -- they should have done something. >> gretchen: we discussed this yesterday, we still don't know who made that call and why. so to a certain extent, we're still dealing with a speculation. >> brian: i will say yesterday the pentagon for the first time, george little, acknowledged that they were -- they did decide not to deploy and they still say it was a good move because it

wouldn't have helped. >> steve: right. >> gretchen: because they say they could not have gotten there in time to save lives before that second wave. >> brian: they don't know. >> gretchen: they're sticking by what they said originally, the pentagon, the state department, the white house. watch this exchange because congressman jason chaffetzer who went to libya right away, he's trying to get to the bottom of it with mr. hicks. >> were any of the u.s. military personnel not permitted to travel on a rescue mission or relief mission to benghazi? >> they were not authorized to travel. >> what happened with those personnel? >> they remained this tripoli with us. the medic went with the nurse to the hospital to lend his skills to the treatment and care of our wounded. >> how did the personnel react to being told to stand down? >> they were furious. i can only say -- well, i will

quote lieutenant colonel gibson. he said, this ises is the first time in my career that a military person has more balls than a person in the government. >> steve: there have been some democrats who tried to -- and members of the lefty media, tried to paint gregory hicks as a guy with an ax to grind. according to my sources, hicks voted for hillary clinton in the primaries and voted for barak obama twice. he was clearly a government employee who simply wants the truth told and it was clear yesterday for the families of those people who lost loved ones. >> gretchen: it's interesting to point out that a conservative columnist who has been on this show many times before, he has a great article today and asks these important questions: is this an impeachable offense? no. will hillary clinton's evident involvement in the revision of the administration's line on

benghazi harm her presidential chances in 2016? no. will this be of great political utility to republicans? no. will this harm democrats terribly? no. and that is what i've been trying to get my head around for the last couple of days, which is will there be a smoking gun? will there they actually come and testify and say, hey, it was such and such who told us to not go so that we finally know the who and the why and up until this point, i don't know if we do. >> brian: the smoking gun, i wouldn't think, even if someone said it was me that told them not to go, because they still say the pentagon, it was our judgment, we don't want to put our guys into an uncertain situation on the ground, which leon panetta has said. but i would say what's next? republicans want to hold more hearings and get indication from elijah cummings that he would be in support of that to get more answers. there could be more whistle blowers coming in and they're look to subpoena rice and hillary clinton. >> steve: that's right. >> brian: and haul them back. >> steve: that would be really

interesting. the other thing, keep in mind, all of this was played out before a presidential election. the question is, was a political calculation made and it looks like it obviously was, to get the president reelected and the big story back then was, al-qaedas, we've got them on the heels. they're on the run of the as you continue to peel away the layers of this onion, we'll find out al-qaeda was involved at every turn. so that will only come out in further testimony. >> gretchen: i'm not sure that changes the ultimate way in which the story is told and if anything really comes out of it. >> steve: if a bunch of lies are told to get somebody reelected president, you know, maybe nobody is going to get impeached or anything like that, but it's like wow. you would do that just to get reelected? that would change some minds. >> brian: let's talk about cleveland and the latest information coming out of there. it's even hard to keep up with this. we find out ugly things that happened in the house and who is going to be charged. it looks like ariel castro, not the two brothers, will be

officially charged today. but all three are expected in court. this guy basically said, admitted to it, he spent a hellacious night in jail where even the prisoners were screaming at him. he admitted that he is the rapist and he admits everything so far, i guess, to police. he even jotted it down in a would-be suicide note that he did it. but of course, not taking responsibility. in the note he says, i had a horrible upbringing. my twisted upbringing is the reason why i'm like this. >> gretchen: he blamed the girls. >> brian: the reason why i abducted them is it was the girls' fault for getting in the car. >> steve: we learned apparently in the first years that the women were held against their will, they were kept downstairs, chained up or roped in the basement and then years later they were actually allowed to go upstairs, not chained down, in upper floors in rooms that were padlocked. >> gretchen: here are some of the other horrible details. they were fed through holes in the doors and also when amanda berry had her baby, it was

michelle knight who was ordered to help her deliver this baby in a baby pool and if the baby died, castro allegedly told michelle knight that is, that he would kill her. >> brian: not only that, the baby was born, was not breathing. so she had to perform cpr on it. >> steve: she did, saved the baby's life. >> brian: michelle took the beating. her face was caved in. she was pregnant five times. she was punched and starved for two weeks until she lost and miscarried those babies. >> steve: this guy is going to go away for a long time. >> brian: hopefully he'll get the death penalty. meantime, an emotional homecoming for amanda berry and gina dejesus. "fox & friends" scored an exclusive interview with one of the women who was there when gina walked through the door. ainsley earhart live in cleveland. hey, ainsley. >> good morning to you, brian and gretchen and steve. yes, you're telling the horrific details, but there is good news today. the girls are wake up with their families this morning. healthy and safe finally. let me paint the picture.

you can see in this video, you can see gina coming in through the crowd. she's there in the hooded sweatshirt. she gives a thumbs up to the crowd, lots of people out there watching, wanting that one interview. family said they want some privacy. they're not willing to talk to the media yet. but then all of a sudden, they open the door, they ask for one local reporter, lydia espara. she's been covering this for a long time. they said, you can come in. no cameras, no reporter notebook, no pen, papers. and she came face-to-face with the girl that this community hoped they would see again. >> you have been looking for gina, just like the family, just like this community, for so long. you got to see her unlike the rest of the world. >> it was awesome. it was awesome. i finally put a face to the missing poster. her hair was short because the pictures all have her with long hair. she was thinner than when she left, but of course, when she left, she was 14, now she's 23.

she tells her mom, i don't understand spanish anymore. before she was kidnapped, sheeve she was bilingual. i told her, you look nothing like your composite. she did chuckle a bit. she just laughed. but overall, she looked healthy. she looked happy to be home. she's very close to her family. you can see that connection, that bond is there that never left. i've been working for nine years with this family. my colleague, bill, has been working with amanda berry. they're a christian people and a model for other people who lost their kids. i think what's really important, she never gave up hope and she tells people all the time that you shouldn't. i think we need to be like nancy and not give up hope. push for it. if you think it's true, then go for it. ignore everybody. do what you have to do. >> were they all there? >> they're all there. i said your mom and dad, they have been looking for you since

the day you left. they never stopped looking. and she smiled and nodded her head. >> gina dejesus, whose mother i'm sure a good night sleep last night. gina for the first time in ten years waking up in her old bedroom and her old bed with her family and very safe this morning. we are learning more information about why those three girls didn't gang up together and leave. that's the question in this cleveland community this morning. and we're learning that the reason is, apparently castro would stand outside of an unlocked door waiting on those girls to open the door and try to escape. he would jump out and beat them up and attack them if they did. they were so scared that they decided as a group they were not going to try to escape and leave. police say they had n attempted to do that until monday when amanda berry made the 911 call. back to you. >> steve: that was the only chance in ten years. all right, anesy, great reporting today and yesterday as well from cleveland. thank you. >> brian: she went on sunday

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>> brian: following the benghazi terrorist attacks, susan rice asserted it was about a video. in addition to being false, did these claims impede the f.b.i. investigation in libya overall? >> he was insulted in front of his own people, in front of the world, his credibility was reduced and i definitely believe that it negatively affected our ability to get the f.b.i. team quickly to benghazi. >> brian: for a close look at this bombshell, peter johnson, jr. >> you're right. wow. the deputy chief of the mission, mr. hicks, said that the president of libya made it clear that it was terrorists who were involved and he said so to the international press. and then mr. hicks was stunned and embarrassed when he heard susan rice talk about the fact that it was about a video.

so let's look at the exchange between congressman gowdy and mr. hicks on this important question. >> at the time we were trying to get the f.b.i. to benghazi to begin its investigation and that talk show actually provided an opportunity to make that happen. afterwards, we encountered bureaucratic resistance for a long period from the libyans. it took us maybe 18 days to get the f.b.i. team to benghazi. >> so the crime scene was unsecured for 18 days? >> yes, sir. >> not only was the crime scene unsecured for 18 days, for the first time on may 2, one week ago, the f.b.i. posted three photos of people who they want for questioning. not people who were suspects, but people they want for questioning.

and they have put up a web site in english and arabic. we're talking about eight or nine months, 18 days on the ground. at the same time that state department and u.s. government officials were saying it's too violent to go to benghazi. we find out yesterday that the real reason the f.b.i. couldn't go there is that the president of libya was angry that he had been dissed in the muslim world by our own ambassador to the united nations giving a false account. so what we have now is basically many, many month delay in bringing to justice, which is the president and the attorney generals and all of our goal of the people that killed our four americans and others. so everyone says, well, the important thing is now bring the people to justice, to have justice for our dead americans. but if justice is delayed because of a material misstatement or deception by one of the leading american diplomatic officials, then

that's a real problem. so people say, well, this is just political. it's more than political. if the president of the country in which the crime, the act of war takes place withholds f.b.i. intervention, that's a real problem and mr. hicks was saying that the president did it directly because of the ambassador's misstatements to the world on five american talk shows. that is incredible and that is a tangible effect of lying to the world because there are repercussions. and it does delay justice. where are the killers? why haven't they been held to account? who are they? what group is it? why doesn't the american government speak out and say, this is the group we are going to do everything we can to get them? >> brian: by the way, all the evidence disappeared, too. reporters were able to get the date books and logs, but the f.b.i. wasn't. >> unsecured crime scene because of an ambassador's statement. >> brian: you got it. peter johnson, jr., thank you. we'll see what happens after this.

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bacon. oh, yeah. thanks. pearl cantrell says the meat is her fountain of youth and she's been given a free supply of bacon. all right. gretch? >> gretchen: that's right. mother's day is coming up on sundays. now, stay with me on this story 'cause you have to connect a few dots. a family is reunited after more than 20 years in the most amazing way. it's a story about the proof of divine intervention. joining me with this powerful story just in time for mother's day, squire, the author of "divine alignment" and creator of the god wing series. you know those books. and two very special ladies, darla allgood and danella walters, good morning to all three of you. >> good morning. >> gretchen: squire, you have showcased this story in another one of your books and it's all about divine alignment. >> yes. this is a perfect example of divine alignment. a god wink is one of those

little coincidences that isn't really a coincidence, but divine alignment is the mysterious connections that just seem to connect us. god wink by god wink, with the right person at the right time. we've all had these experiences and it really shows that we're on this incredible gps, god's positioning system, and this story perfectly exemplifies this. >> gretchen: if our viewers remember one thing from the show today, it will be this story. darla, kick it off for me. you're 17 years old. you get pregnant. you have a baby and you decide to give it up for adoption. danella is the nurse at the hospital. what does she do? >> well, i was crying. my heart was breaking into piece 'cause i was so young and i knew there was no way i could provide for this little life. and i was just going back and forth. i really need to see this baby and tell him good-bye. >> gretchen: you allow her to hold the baby because you broke all the rules doing that?

>> i did. i did. >> gretchen: now, i got to fast forward a bunch of years. you end up marrying the father of that baby. >> yes, we did. >> gretchen: you have other children. >> yes, i have four boys, brandon, adam, casey and dylan. >> gretchen: your daughter, amanda ends up marrying the baby she gave up for adoption. >> correct. >> divine alignment. >> gretchen: somehow you make the connection that that was the baby that you allowed her to hold and now you are all together as a family? >> yes. we share grandchildren, beautiful grandchildren. yes. >> gretchen: do you believe in divine alignment? >> yes, i do. my mom was quite a prayer warrior and she prayed for chad all her life and she wrote him letters, beautiful poems. >> gretchen: she passed away before she found out about this? >> yes. >> gretchen: do you believe in divine alignment? >> oh, yes, yes. i wasn't even supposed to be at work that night, but yes.

>> gretchen: what a story, square. the idea that these two women, their lives are brought back together and now part of one family. it's almost unbelievable. >> i know. it's extraordinary. and the grandmother who never thought she'd ever see this baby but was writing the letters, those letters were not found until she died and they weren't read until darla read them this weekend and they're magnificent. >> gretchen: you can find out more stories like this 234 your new book "divine alignment." what a story. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> gretchen: coming up, a fox exclusive. moments after being convicted, jodi arias says she wants to get the death penalty? she might get her wish. and cheerleaders fighting to put bible verses on banners. their story just came to an end. more when we come back hey! did you know that honey nut cheerios

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>> new survey found the average american will spend $168 on mother's day this year. yeah. if there is any woman who has been through labor for a day and a half, remember, it pays exactly $168. [ laughter ] >> gretchen: she says that she would rather die than spend the rest of her life in prison. talking about jodi arias. speaking exclusively to a fox station after being convicted of murdering her ex-boyfriend. today she could get her wish.

joining us with the details is anna kooiman. >> good morning. jodi arias could be back on the stand today as the jury must decide if she murdered travis alexander with cruel intent. if so, they could deliver the death sentence and she says death is all she wants. >> the worst outcome would be natural life. i would much rather die sooner than later. longevity runs in my family and i don't want to spend the rest of my natural life in one place. you know. pretty healthy. i don't smoke. i would probably live a long time. so that's not something i'm looking forward to. i said years ago that i would rather get death than life and that's still true today. i believe death is the ultimate freedom, so i would rather just have my freedom as soon as i can get it. >> travis alexander's family and friends openly cried inside the courtroom five years after he was stabbed and shot to death. jodi arias shed a single tear

during the verdict, then turned back to look at her family. the penalty phase is expected to take one day if the jury determines there was no cruel intent. death will be off the table and a judge could sentence her in as little as 30 days. gretchen, brian and steve. >> gretchen: thanks very much. >> steve: meanwhile, we got other headlines for you on this thursday. new developments in the search for a mother who went missing from a gas station in michigan. police confirm jessica heringa's blood was found at the scene. last week they released this surveillance video showing a van believed to be connected with the abduction. investigators say they are rushing to gather any information about her disappearance. if you have some, call 911. >> brian: more trouble. two passengers are reported -- i'll put the mike on now. reported missing, search began after the carnival spirit docked in sydney, australia. a 30-year-old man and 26-year-old woman may have fallen overboard. this comes as the carnival triumph sets sail fort bahamas.

it will undergo more repairs after breaking down and stranding passengers for five days. meanwhile, sunshine was having problems with cabins. there is still an unfinished deck work after setting sail. >> gretchen: texas cheerleaders scored a big victory. they can now wave their bible verse banners at football games. this after a judge ruled the signs do not violate the constitution. >> i'm proud of my friends and my community for standing up for what we believe in. >> there has been an overwhelming feeling getting the ruling we were here about. >> gretchen: the controversy began in september. the superintendent banned the banners after receiving a complaint that they violated the first amendment. >> steve: meanwhile, maria is outside right now and enjoying a lovely morning because it's national barbecue month and she's next to famous dave. hey, maria. >> good morning. good to see you. that's right, may is national barbecue month and we have

famous dave with us from famous dave's barbecue. you've been working your whole life on barbecue, perfecting your recipes and you are one of the best. >> and i love barbecue. today i'm spilling the beans on how to make the world's best baby back ribs. >> what's the difference between the saint lieutenant style and baby back ribs? >> here you can see the difference. this is a st. louis cut. this has been smoked. both have been smoked. so this is the baby back rib with a lot of people like. >> that's america's favorite rib and that's the one we'll be focusing on. right? >> right. this is a raw baby back. you can see how marbled it is. 's almost a prime rib of rib. like well marbled steak, there is a lot of flavor. magee at famous dave's, we have a rib rub, which we generously coat the rib with and makes -- there you go. and this here is a well seasoned rib that will smoke for four to

five hours. then one of the things we do next is what we call layering flavors. so we will take our barbecue sauce. >> layer it on and grill it. >> right. now, they've already been smoked. but what we're doing is layering on another -- >> these cook for several hours. correct? and then we have them already done right here. >> right. >> which we got to go back to the anchors now, steve, gretchen and brian. i'm going to try one of these. these are one of the best in the world and? >> steve: and the verdict, maria >> amazing. amazing. thank you so much. what an honor to be here with you. breakfast. >> steve: he's royalty of barbecue. >> yes. >> steve: very nice. >> gretchen: all right. i think he'll do salmon coming up next hour. so if you're a fish lover, stay tuned for that. a benghazi bombshell, one whistle blower says susan rice, the u.n. ambassador, didn't talk to the top rank official in libya before telling america it

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>> brian: wrigley halting production of this controversial gum called one piece of alert energy caffeine gum, because it has about a half cup of coffee in it. the company says it's taken the gum off the market while the f.d.a. investigates health risks adding caffeine to candy. and ever wonder what it is like to fly an fson 16, it's created by the 36th fighter squadron nicknamed the flying fiend. you feel like you're in the cockpit. you're seeing everything from the takeoff to in air refueling. even bombing drills. steve? >> steve: that is cool. explosive testimony on capitol hill yesterday over benghazi. three whistle blowers testified that the obama administration lied about what went up to the assault and blew the response itself and then lied about that.

joining us with reaction, senator marco rubio. senator, good morning to you. >> likewise. thank you for having me. >> steve: what did you make of the benghazi hearings yesterday? >> very insightful and there is a lot more to be learned. shear what we know, first of all, that post probably shouldn't have been open. and the people in charge of that, secretary clinton and the state department, they had a steady stream of reporting that showed how dangerous it was. it was one of the reasons why the british pulled out. we knew it was a dangerous place to begin with. second, they didn't have adequate security for the place. so it was dangerous and then they left it open, but didn't give them adequate security. third, apparently they didn't give them enough response teams to respond to any sort of attack. and forth, now people say maybe there is something we could have done for the second wave of the attack, but they didn't let us go. so these four things are very, very troubling and i just want to congratulate those like fox news and those who kept on this. because this is not about politics. this is about accountability. someone needs to be accountable. but also about preventing this in the future.

if we don't know honestly what happened here, how are we going to prevent this in the future to other diplomatic outposts? this is not about hurting anybody politically. this is about getting to the truth so people can be held accountable and we can prevent this from happening again in the future. >> steve: you know what? clearly the administration and the political people made a calculation, all right, let's send susan rice out there and she's going to say it was that video. that's what stirred up libya. here is greg hicks who was on the ground in libya on that day reacting to the fact that he heard ambassador rice blame the video. here he is. >> i was stunned. my jaw dropped. and i was embarrassed. >> did she talk to you before she went on the five sunday talk shows? >> no, sir. >> you were the highest ranking official in libya at the time. correct? >> yes, sir. >> and she did not bother to have a conversation with you

before she went on national television? >> no, sir. >> steve: is just crazy. then mr. hicks talked about how he talked to one of his supervisors, assistant secretary beth jones and said, why did the ambassador say it was a video? and then her reaction was, i don't know. but made it very clear from the tone shut up and move on. later he was reprimanded. he had always had great reviews and then he was demoted from the deputy chief of mission to a desk officer simply for essentially challenging susan rice. >> that's right. i think there is two reasons why that happened. number one, the president was in the middle of a reelection. one of his talking points was that terrorism had been defeated and he had defeated it. and this rank countered that narrative. they didn't want to admit there was a terrorist attack because to admit it was to admit that terrorism was still out there and reaching us. and so that's the reason why they september the order, in my opinion, in some way, shape or form, they want the order these talking points should not be

allowed to include any reference to terrorism, per say, or at least acting as a terrorist attack, but rather that they need to be told this was something that was a result of a youtube video. so i think that was the political motivation behind it. what i think is sad is how many people are around the administration, including the former secretary of state, secretary clinton, knew this to be the case and allowed this to move forward anyway. you would hope the people would have stood up and said this is wrong. the american people deserve the truth. that didn't happen. >> steve: we do need the answers. let's hope there is more to this. meanwhile, let's talk about what you're going to be busy with. i know up on capitol hill, the senate is going to start considering -- is it true there are 300 amendments now to the gang of eight suggestion on how to reform immigration? >> yeah. i think that's a good thing. i know a lot of people are shocked by the shear number, but this is a very complex issue. it involves everything from how we treat the high-tech industry to what to do with people here illegally and all sorts of things in between. so it's not unusual. and most of the amendments are very productive. they're designed to make the bill better. here is the good news, the good

news is the vast majority of americans understand and believe and support an immigration reform package. today a letter was released, 24 conservative groups saying, we support immigration reform if, if you take measures to insure that this never, ever happens again. what people are saying is, we'll do immigration reform, but only if you make sure this never happens again, we don't get another wave of immigration. that is a very reasonable request. i think that's what many of these amendments are aiming to accomplish. >> steve: what do you make of the fact that jim demint, who was big with the tea party and there in the senate, until he within on over to the heritage foundation, essentially you guys are at logger heads over immigration. heritage came out with a study that said if this immigration bill goes through, it's going to cost the federal government at least $6.3 trillion in all the entitlements and other things that the immigrants wind up getting throughout course of their lives. >> first of all, i have tremendous respect for heritage and especially from jim demint who is a personal friend and

mentor. we worked together on virtually everything. we have a disagreement how to best do it. i dispute that report. it's based on assumeses that aren't accurate. they're basically claiming that all these people that are illegally here will all become citizens and all become poor for the rest of their lives. that's absurd. they're base ago quarter of the cost -- first of all, this is over 50 years. a quarter of the cost they claim are for things like parks and roads and police. things you're paying for with or without them. here is my last point. the social security administration sent me a letter in response to my letter. their letter basically says immigration reform as we have structured it will grow the economy of the united states. it will add jobs and it will help -- a net positive for social security. we got that letter yesterday. the fact is if we do immigration reform right, it will be good for america. it will be good for our economy. it will make us safer and it will protect our sovereignty. >> steve: the ball is in the senate court right now. let's see what happens. senator marco rubio joining us from capitol hill. sir, thank you very much.

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>> gretchen: want to stay country cool this summer and make a splash at the same time? dolly parton has the answer for

you. >> steve: dolly parton joining us right now from pigeon forge, tennessee. dollywood. good morning to you. >> well, good morning. i'm here with our new river rush water ride. ain't i something out here in this cold weather? >> steve: we see it behind you. go ahead and explain to us how this is going to work, this splash thing. >> actually we have our splash country water park. we have wonderful things here. but this year we have the only water roller coaster in all of tennessee. so we're excited about that. it goes around about four times i guess at the highest peak, dropping off a four story building. i don't know. i don't usually ride these. they're riding it already. >> gretchen: i'm with you, dolly. i don't know if i'd go down, but i know my kids would. it looks like a lot of fun. you just keep adding to dollywood. what's going to be the next venture? >> well, we've got some things going to be announcing later in the summer. but we've got so many wonderful

things this year in addition to this river rush roller coaster. we have new shows. one of my favorites being called my people, my home. it's a story about my life in the early days and it features a lot of my family, my brother randy, my sister, kathy, nieces, nephews and cousins. so we've got a whole family show going on here in addition to a lot of wonderful things we got going all summer. so every year we try to add new and better things. >> brian: we hear in the background. you say if you want the rainbow, you got to put up with the rain. what do you mean? >> well, it just means if you want the good times, you'll have to suffer through the bad. nothing comes easy. you got to kind of -- that's just always been one of my favorite sayings. i heard that all my life. there is a couple of songs along those lines, but i just think it's if you want the good stuff, you got to work hard and go out there and do it and put up with the good and bad.

cream comes to the top. >> steve: nobody worked harder than you. when you were growing up and one of a dozen kids, money was always tight at your house and you wound up essentially starting to sing at age ten. you brought that philosophy that there are families out there who are on a budget and so that's kind of the philosophy of dollywood, to make it a world class entertainment attraction, but at the same time, not to break the bank. >> that's exactly right. our whole slogan is make time for happy. meaning everybody is kind of scattered. families are doing all sorts of things between twitter and the facebook and all that. everybody is doing stuff separately together. so at dollywood, we trio bring families together and have things to do where we actual lea can save some of the old traditional family values and plus have a lot of fun doing it. so yes, our whole focus is toward family here at dollywood. it's a lot of fun. it's a beautiful place. we've got something for everybody, from the food, to music and all the entertainment

as well. >> gretchen: last time you were hear you were talking about your new book "dream more." it was based on a graduation speech you had given a couple years earlier. any more plans since we're in graduation season, are you doing any more speeches? >> well, i'm not this year, but i'm sure through the years i'll be doing a lot of speaking around the country, doing different things, especially because of the imagination library, which is where we give books to children before they start school once a month, we gave book out until they start school. so they can learn to read and love it. and all the money from the book you mentioned goes to that. so it's just to encourage kids to learn more, do more action be more and care more. and so that will always be our philosophy and our slogan. so we just want tone courage the kids and i'm sure we'll be doing other things. we have scholarships for the high school kids. we work very closely with the youth in this county. >> steve: it's on the screen

where dolly comes to us from dollywood. thank you very much for joining us live. have a great season. >> thank you. you always help me out. i always love you. thank you. >> steve: always a pleasure. >> gretchen: thanks. michelle malkin right around the corner at the top of the hour. bacon?! gotta get that bacon! yummy, crunchy, bacon bacon bacon there in that bag! who wants a beggin' strip? me! i'd get it myself, but i don't have thumbs! mmm mmm mmm mmm mmm it's beggin'! mmm, i love you. (announcer) beggin' strips...there's no time like beggin' time.

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>> gretchen: good thursday morning. it's may 9, 2013. i'm gretchen carlson. thanks for sharing your time today. fox news alert for you, the man accused of running that house of horror in cleveland due in court this hour. we're live on the ground with ariel castro's arraignment and the new details about what happened inside that home. >> steve: they were the highest ranking officials on the ground in libya when we were attacked and they say folks in washington left four americans to die. >> were any of these u.s. military personnel not permitted to travel on a rescue mission or relief mission to benghazi? >> they were not authorized to travel. >> steve: and those witness whistle blowers say they've been ignored, threatened and demoted.

michelle malkin says the worst is yet to come. she is moments away. >> brian: and could you survive in the alaskan wilderness? a family who does that wants to challenge me and steve on an obstacle course on our plaza. are we tough enough? "fox & friends" starts right now. >> gretchen: good morning. i guess if you guys can't go to alaska, you can just pretend like you're in alaska out there. >> steve: great. ain't no fake mountain high enough. >> brian: that's high enough. >> steve: absolutely is. >> brian: michelle malkin is here. i saw you last night with sean. i know you took in almost all the testimony possible yesterday. does anything change today? >> i hope so. i think that the sobriety with which those three whistle blower s testified should blunt a

lot of what's coming and i warned about it before the hearings, these smear campaigns against these whistle blowers because this is the chicago way and they were gearing up, a lot of the obama operatives and water carriers, to rip these people to shreds. but i don't think that you could come away from that hearing and have anything but absolute respect for the courage that they showed and the compassion that they have for the families of the victims that were murdered that night. >> steve: right. in fact, one of them made it clear that the reason they came forward was to make sure that -- so the record is set straight for the families. mr. hicks, greg hicks, it's interesting, he knew and the government circulated word early on that it was terrorists and yet you've got susan rice going out on television and saying that it was all because of that

video. mr. hicks says, i was stunned. my jaw dropped. i was embarrassed. also they decided early to send in a special ops team that could have perhaps done something, but extraordinarily, the special ops people were told to stand down and the special ops people were furious. >> yeah. this tower of lies that hillary built, particularly in that january hearing, is all coming crumbling down. and if things don't change immediately exactly today, i think the take away from the hearing is that she's in trouble. and so are her damage control duet of beth jones and sheryl mills, who were name checked repeatedly by the whistle blowers. and in particular, i think greg hicks' description of that harrowing night and those seven hours in hell that all of the people at the consulate went through is going to blow right

up in her face. if you go back to that famous exchange between senator ron johnson and hillary clinton at that january hearing, the reason why it's so famous, of course, is because what she said at the end. what difference does it make? but if go through that whole six or seven minute segment, you see just how many times she lied because she never mentioned that she talked specifically to greg hicks that night and as he said yesterday, he made it clear to her that this was an attack that had nothing, nothing to do with a youtube video that was as he said, quote, a nonevent. >> gretchen: right. now they may be actually calling susan rice and hillary clinton to testify if there are any additional hearings. but michelle, how far up -- i know you're talking about hillary clinton who was secretary of state. how far up do you think that the messaging came to her, or do you think it was solely her decision? did it come from the administration as well and the white house?

>> well, in terms of the department of state, she is responsible and then the messaging, of course, was coordinated between the state department and the white house, and ultimately it is the man who refused to watch the hearings yesterday because as press secretary said, he doesn't bother to watch tv in the afternoon. couldn't deign to do that. and i think the question i think politically is, will he get away with it? of course, the fact is that these people lied through their teeth before the complexion they still got away with it. i think what we have to do is carry the message, particularly of greg hicks describing in the most moving way how they were under attack and the very last line of his testimony before darrell issa closed the hearing was the message from the

administration, from obama on down was, you're on your own. they abandoned these americans. >> brian: here is one of the whistle blowers, eric nordstrom, he's talking to congressman micah, let's listen. >> i think the basic message is that whether or not you're sitting out at the post requesting resource, preparing for testimony before this committee or standing on a building surrounded by an armed mob attacking you, the message is the same. you're on your own. >> there you go. >> brian: basically hicks has been demoted already. so those people out there, his career was on a glide path. he's got an impeccable track record and report card. but yet he can't get a good assignment now. so what kind of message is that to whistle blowers? >> well, it's a chilling one. but it is a theme of this administration, whether you're talking about the atf whistle blowers who came forward on fast and furious and were threatened, had their guns taken away from them, were also demoted, had to

sue to get justice in their case. the former americorp inspector general, commission dismissed from his job because he blew the whistle on corruption who were tied to cronies of obama, goes on and on of the this is how these thugs roll and it's about time the american people stand by the people telling the truth. e'll ever get the answers to these three questions? who authorized changing the talking points? who told the military to stand down? and who told susan rice to say it was the videotape? will we hear actual names? >> well, darrell issa closed that hearing yesterday by noting that although the hearing was closed, the investigation was quote, unquote, far from over. >> steve: good. we got a lot of questions. she joins us once a week from the springs of colorado. michelle, thank you very much. >> gretchen: we will have cat smith, the mother of sean smith. she'll join us moments away with her thoughts on those hearings.

now your other headlines. 11 story sweater factory exploded. the victims suffocated as they tried escaping. two weeks after another fire destroyed a building home to five different factories. the death toll in that fire now more than 900 people and rising. she says she would rather die than spend the rest of her life in prison. jodi arias speaking exclusively to a fox station after being convicted of murdering her ex-boyfriend. >> i said years ago that i'd rather get death than life and that still is true today. i believe death is the ultimate freedom, so i would rather have my freedom as soon as i can get it. >> gretchen: well, today she could get her wish. she may be back on the stand and a jury must decide whether she murdered travis alexander with cruel intent. if so, they could deliver the death sentence. the penalty phase expected to take just today. more trouble for carnival cruise after two australian

passengers are reported missing. a search began after the carnival spirit docked in sydney. reports say surveillance video shows a 30-year-old man and 27-year-old woman falling overboard. this comes as the triumph sets sail for the bahamas. it will undergo more repairs after breaking down in the gulf of mexico. remember that story? it stranded passengers for five days in february. the carnival sunshine was having trouble with cabins and had unfinished deck work after it set sail. the widow of the boston bomber hire add prominent criminal lawyer, one who defended terror suspects at gitmo. this comes as katherine russell's brother-in-law and suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev reportedly told authorities she had no involvement in their attacks. >> steve: meanwhile, fox news alert, we're taking you live inside a cleveland courtroom where in less than 30 minutes, ariel castro will be arraigned. the 52-year-old former bus driver, the lone brother to be

charged with kidnapping and rape of those three women who lived in that hell hole house for a decade. joined by ainsley earhart, live with chilling details about that house of horrors. ainsley? >> you are absolutely right, steve. the house of hell is the best way to describe that. it is a woman or any person's worst nightmare. we're hearing there were holes in the doors of their bedrooms. that's how they were fed. we're being told they were sexually abused repeatedly during that ten-year period. it wasn't until their spirits were, quote, broken, police say, until those girls were allowed to roam throughout the house or at least meet up with each other in various rooms throughout the house. as far as the babies are concerned, a lot of questions there. michelle knight, we're being told, was pregnant five times. was not allowed to be pregnant. he didn't want her to be pregnant, so he starved her each time she was expecting a baby for two weeks, would punch her

in the stomach whenever she was showing so that she would miscarry. amanda berry, she did deliver a child within that house, born in a kiddy pool. that child was born on christmas day. the child's name is jocelyn. and michelle, one of the women in the house, helped deliver the baby. the baby came out, was not breathing and castro told her, if this baby dies, i will kill you, too, michelle. a lot of people here in the cleveland community wondering why these three women didn't try to escape before, why they didn't join together. we were wondering, were drugs involved? were they sedated? we asked that question to police at the press conference. >> were there drugs involved? were was ariel castro drugging them to prevent them from escaping? what allowed them, what window of opportunity allowed them to escape this time? >> well, number one, we're not

positive about any type of drugs, if they were drugged. that's yet to be determined. number two, the only opportunity after interviewing the young ladies to escape was the other day when amanda escaped. so they were in that home. i don't believe, they don't believe they had been outside of the home for the last ten years respectively. >> amanda berry said the door was unlocked when castro left on monday of the she did find a window of opportunity to escape. first time she's ever tried to do that, she says. she was very afraid the first time because she said that castro would sometimes hide in the bushes or hide within areas of the house and leave doors unlocked in the house, or that front door unlocked and then would jump out and beat them up if they tried to escape. but on monday, she was able to do that. we're also learning how he lured these girls into his house. we're told that michelle knight,

he offered her a ride home instead of taking her home, he took her to his house. we're also learning about amanda berry. she was working that night. she called her sister on the phone and she said, i'm going to catch a ride. i'll see you in a minute. i'm heading home -- heading home. he was in his car in the parking lot. told her his son, hey, my son works at the burger king. i'll give you a quick ride home and come back and get my son. back to you in the studio, steve, brian and gretchen. >> steve: thank you very much, live from cleveland. each day it just gets worse. >> brian: tired of your taxes going up? two lawmakers say they can change the tax code, but they need your help. a republican and democrat, submit your suggestions. we'll share them with them at 8:30. max biocox and dave camp. >> gretchen: then want to know why dana perino is going to be filthy rich? does it have anything to do with her name? we'll see [ male announcer ] this is george.

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and they got turned down and security was taken away from them. thereby abandoning him and the other guys. >> gretchen: so we did hear from gregory hicks that exchange that he had with congressman chaffetz that security was turned down. i want you to listen to that and maybe what you were looking for is what i was looking for, too, as well as is who gave that order. listen to this. >> were any of these u.s. military personnel not permitted to travel on a rescue mission or relief mission to benghazi? >> they were not authorized to travel. >> how did the personnel react at being told to stand down? >> they were furious. i can only say, well, i will quote lieutenant colonel gibson. he said, this is the first time in my career that a diplomat has more balls than somebody in the military. >> the military was told to stand down, not engage in a

fight. these are the kind of people willing to engage. where did that message come down? where did the stand down order come from? >> i believe it came from either africa or south africa. >> gretchen: pat, he says that order came down, but were you looking then for a name? >> i would love to know who did it. why can't they be responsible for their own actions? >> gretchen: are you looking for the person who authorized the changing of the talking points as well? >> i would like that, but that's not my main thing. my main thing is i don't want this to happen to anybody else and it's going to keep on happening unless those people are stopped. >> gretchen: apparently there may be more hearings. secretary of state, formerly hillary clinton, may be called, susan rice may be called. and pat, we hope you get the answers to how and why your son, sean -- >> susan rice and hillary both told me personally, nose to nose

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>> gretchen: we did see them in the courtroom. they're going to be released. let's listen in. >> we have no convictions or felonyies or serious misdemeanor s. >> good morning, your honor. >> good morning. >> brian murr field. from the prosecutor's office. based on premeditated delivery of decision, snatched three young ladies from cleveland's streets. he used them for self gratifying, self serving way he saw fit. two of the victims were held for more than a decade or close to a

decade. also while in captivity, they repeated they were bound, restrained and sexually assaulted. they were never free to leave this residence. just as suddenly and quite frankly, it appeared they reemerged, thankfully, miraculously three days ago at the home of mr. castro. it served as his prison to these three women. today the situation turned around. in captivity, a prisoner. the women are free to resume their lives that were interrupted and also with the

promise and a hope that justice will be served, to insure justice is served, to protect the victims and the community that mr. castro manipulated and deceived, the bopped be set at $5 million. thank you. >> thank you. >> also it's clear he have no contact with the victims or their families whether he's out on bond or not. >> thank you very much. bond is set at 2 million on each case. $2 million cash security on each case. thank you very much. >> you're welcome, ma'am.

>> there is absolutely no contact with the victims and their families. >> brian: looks like that's all you'll see of ariel castro, quick in, gave us a profile shot, found out that they did put bail up, 2 million per charge on him. his court case moves from cleveland to federal court. >> gretchen: the two brothers who you did not see when we came back to cover the trial, they were there and actually they only face now -- they're not

associated with this kidnapping rape crime apparently anymore. they had nothing to do with it, according to authorities. they had two misdemeanors there, actually three, both of them had open container. one had a misdemeanor of drug abuse. i'm not sure if they're going to be leased on their own recognizance at this point. that is a public defender that you see there on the screen. that is ariel castro, the 52-year-old suspect in this case. this is videotape now earlier of his hearing. he's going to be moved on to federal court with kidnapping and rape charges. >> steve: his brothers, who were jailed on unrelated charges, that will all stay at the local level. his will move to federal court. he was just charged with four counts of kidnapping, three counts of rape. he's also expected to be indicted within a couple of weeks by a grand jury which could find additional charges. but with -- >> gretchen: excuse me. >> steve: with $2 million on each count, a total of $8 million, that guy is not going home. he's staying in jail.

>> gretchen: i'm not sure if that's onil or pedro. appears to be one of the other brothers standing screen left. appears to be pedro with the public defender there and there is the other brother behind him, at least that appears to be onil castro right there and then behind him is ariel castro. >> brian: they've been described as two unemployed alcoholic brothers still living with their mom. the fact that they were taken together made people believe, maybe conclude that they were all in on it. now the authorities and through questioning of the victims, as well as the brothers, have concluded that they weren't. it is just about ariel. >> gretchen: that may have been because i believe that when they found ariel at the mcdonald's restaurant after the girls were able to escape, he was with one or both of the brothers at the time. >> steve: that's why they all did get arrested. it's just ariel castro, age 52 at this pointment they think he did it all by himself. it would change everything if they do the dna test on that

little six-year-old girl named jocelyn and it turns out he is not the father. that would change everything. but it is expected that he will test positive for the paternity of the girl. >> brian: this all just happened moments ago. >> steve: we should point out ainsley earhart has been outside the courthouse this morning and is angling over by one of the exits in hopes of getting a comment and we'll show it to you right here on the "fox & friends" show if she's able to do just that. >> brian: all right. 24 minutes before the top of the hour. if you think paying taxes has never been more costly, or complicated, you are not alone and by the way, you're 100% right. most americans say it's becoming too confusing to figure out the system and i don't even think about doing it anymore. i don't know anybody that does. now two legislate -- i pay my taxes. i just don't fill them out. two congressmen are leading the effort and join us from washington. are you throwing up your hands,

gentlemen? have you quit and given up about fixing our tax system? >> we are deeply into it. we're jumping into it because we want to fix it. by the way, belated happy birthday. >> brian: thank you. >> we're very serious about this. we're going to do all we can to make it more fair and help promote business and create jobs. >> brian: so congressman camp, what happened? we fixed this in the '80s and it just gets unwielding out of control or did we not do it right earlier? >> basically, we know the code is a nightmare and we got to fix it. the average family can't do their own tax. there has been about 10,000 changes in the last ten years. so we really feed to make sure that we take a look at this and that's why we're launching this web site so people can let us know how they view the tax code and what we can do to fix it. >> brian: we've asked our viewers to help you out. you want to take some suggestions? >> all right. >> brian: here we go. jeff carter writes, what about a flat 10% tax across all incomes, no loopholes, no mortgage tax

deductions, no charity deduction. what do you think? >> first of all, we're going to start a w a clean slate, just wipe everything clean. there is so much junk in the code. then we'll figure out what to add back. there are some provisions pretty popular, like home mortgage interest deductions, charitable deduction. the main thing is start clean. make it as simple as possible. then we'll deal with suggestions. it's premature now. >> fairer, flatter, simpler. >> brian: jeff rights, stop taxing americans individually and send a tax bill to the state. let states collect taxes any way they want and remit to the federal government based on their population. get started. what do you think in. >> well, that's the first time i've heard that one. i don't think it's going to work too well basically because we have two governments, the federal government and the state department and we'd have to

finance things like the army and navy and national security. it's interesting. >> those kind of creative things we want to hear. that's the kind of input we want to get. >> brian: chairman, how do we get in touch with you? i know you set up a system where people can write in with their suggestions, right? >> we do. we have dave and i have a web site up, it's called toxreform.com, and also at simpler taxes. we want to hear from people. a lot of special interest groups come to washington, d.c we want to get past that. we want to hear directly from people. >> brian: what kind of timetable are you on in terms of doing this with immigration and everything else on the docket, where does this rank? >> we just launched the web site. so taxreform.gov, people can log in and we want to work on this this year and we're focused on doing this as much as we can. >> brian: you just hope to get momentum, i guess, behind you, because both sides agree, as we see today, that we got to reform the system. senator max baucus, chairman dave camp, thanks so much. >> thanks, brian.

>> brian: 21 minutes before the top of the hour. >> steve: very nice. you got a birthday shout out from the senator from montana. >> brian: my first one from montana. >> gretchen: maybe that means you won't be out of it. let's get to your headlines. major breakthrough in international diamond heist. 31 people arrested by people in connection with the $50 million robbery at brussels airport in february. bandits dressed up as police and broke in through a hole that they cut in the fence. the operation took less than five minutes. police detained suspects in belgium, france, and switzerland. >> steve: he was the ceo of enron when fraud wiped out $2 billion in employee pensions and $60 billion in stock became worthless. jeffrey skilling, remember him -- just cut a deal to get out of jail early. maybe ten years early. court documents show skilling and the government made the deal based on his good behavior behind bars. could be out by 2017 and would have to pay $40 million in

restitution if he has it. skilling has always maintained he's innocent. >> brian: what's in a name? big bucks apparently. a new study finds you will earn more based on how short your name is. you lose $3,600 in annual salary for each extra letter in your first name. >> steve: really? >> brian: tom is the top name for male earners and the top five are for men are all five letters or less. women break the mold a little bit. lynn is number one. longer names like melissa, christine made the top five for females. >> steve: there is dana as in dana perino. >> brian: she'll be loaded. >> steve: let's hit her up for lunch. >> brian: i think she should pay, at least for gutfeld. >> gretchen: coming up on the show, a downer for all you caffeine lovers. a product being pulled off the shelves because it may not be safe. >> steve: and big breaking economic news. nicole petallides on the floor of the stock exchange.

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fewer claims. >> brian: people keep saying the reason why it goes up is 'cause you have nowhere else to put your money. is that a solid explanation? >> well, that is certainly one of many explanations as to why this market is going to the upside. of course, you're going to get your best return from equities rather than bonds and other commodities. that's number one. you have a very accommodating fed, federal reserve chairman ben bernanke printing the money freely and of course, an improved economy. i wanted to show you these three things. so you remember dow 10,000 back in 1999. financial crisis, we went down to 6500 where everybody was freaking out. >> brian: no hats for that. >> steve: we lost our shirts. >> 401(k)s and then, yea, we hit dow so thousand again. and now we're at dow 15,000. i wanted to tell you some of the best performers this year, so people who have the shares are happy. on the dow jones industrials, the best performers year to date, hewlett packard, disney

and boeing. on the s & p 500, netflix, best buy, and avon. those are some of the best performers we've seen this year. as far as the traders that i asked what they think going forward, they think the momentum remains to the upside. this is an overbought market. no doubt. people probably want to take some profits. but they're not going to fight the momentum. >> steve: that's right because people say hey, we've got new highs i got to put my money in now and that keeps rolling it down the road. nicole petallides, collector of hats on wall street, thank you very much. >> thanks so much. >> brian: we hope to see you walk tomorrow. >> steve: we will. >> brian: you saw it here moments ago, ariel castro coming face-to-face with a judge. but what happened off camera? ainsley earhart was a witness to it all. she's next. >> steve: first let's check in with bill hem better a preview of what happens in 12 minute. >> another big morning here, busy morning. four major stories to watch. the benghazi fallout, what is next? hearings on the hill that start in ten minutes. we're watching those.

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>> steve: meanwhile, fox news alert, moments ago ariel castro right there arraigned in a cleveland courtroom. ainsley earhart is there and has details. ainsley? >> hey, steve. the prosecutor stood up in that courtroom pleading to the judge for $5 million in bond and he said no contact, please, with any of the four women or their families. the judge's response? i hear you. $8 million in bond, 2 million per case, we're being told. here are the four case. 2 million per for the child and three women involved. >> brian: so i was surprised any bail was set at all on that. what did he look like to you, anesy, as he walked past you or you were in this vicinity, him and his brothers? >> i'll tell you, brian, they all looked very disheveled. i was walking into the courtroom

that you see behind me, the security officers pulled me aside and told me i'm with the media. the brothers will come through the lobby. ariel will be up on the third floor. so i go to the third floor and in walks all three brothers at the same time of the that was unexpected. courtroom full of media, didn't see any of the family members there. a lot of lawyers and journalists. and they're at the front of the courtroom and they bring the two brothers up, charge them with the misdemeanors, let them go. one guy has to pay $100. stands in front of the judge and then they bring in ariel. all three brothers look a lot alike. their mug shots are pretty accurate accurate. they look like they need to do shave. they've been in jail four days. looks unkept, unclean. ariel, i was shocked. he's smaller than the other brothers. not by much, but still a small man. and his defense attorney, public defender was standing next to him and was holding him up, balancing him and talking in his ear, almost like she was translating what the judge was saying. >> gretchen: can you explain to

the viewers, because many people are just waking up now, are puzzled to why the two brothers are not associated with this crime anymore. why not? >> right. the two brothers, it's being told they were all three arrested together and that's why they felt the brothers were part of all of this. turns out that they had no knowledge of those women being trapped inside the house. we're being told by the neighbors that ariel didn't let a lot of people in, even his cousins and his never brother had been in the house either, which seems bizarre, but obviously we're not dealing with someone like any of us. so they were in court held on misdemeanor charges that date back to 2001, one a few years ago. they were open containers. one of the brothers, the charges go back so far that those were dropped. the other brother has to pay $100 and get credit for four days in jail. >> brian: ariel off to federal court. these guys stay in cleveland. thanks so much. >> yep. you're welcome. >> steve: good hustle on that. five minutes before the top of the hour, fire up the grill. why it's officially time to

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the verdict? >> they were amazing. they melt in your mouth. >> steve: not in your hand? >> yes. >> gretchen: keep it here for the after the show show. have a great thursday, everybody. >> steve: see you tomorrow, everybody bill: 9:00 in cleveland, ohio. fox news alert. for the first time we have seen him live. the man accused of running a hell house. >> ariel castro charged with kidnapping and rape on the 1st, 2nd, 3rd