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see this kid's report card following that rant. thank you for being with us. let not your heart be troubled. greta is next to go on the record. we will see you back here tomorrow night. thanks for being with us. >> tonight if you think what you heard jodi arias say last night on the record was absolutely shocking, hold on to your seats because wait until you see tonight. we have so much before that is never before seen. >> i would have been very happy to remain silent and go quietly into the night off to prison. my defense team decided to rip the lid off because we were forced to trial. >> more of the jodi arias interview you will only see right here in just a few minutes. but first knew tonight out of ohio. the prosecutor announcing he may seek the death penalty against ariel castro. >> ariel castro, the charge of
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rape -- kidnapping. kidnapping in the fourth. >> help me i'm amanda berry. >> i have a cop on the phone with a female whose name is amanda berry and she said she'd been kidnapped ten years ago. >> held for more than a decade. >> i've been kidnapped, and i've been missing for ten years. >> this child kidnapper operated a torture chamber and private prison in the heart of our city. >> she's saying that the male ariel castro, 52-year-old hispanic male that lives at 2207 seymour and he's been holding her here for ten years. >> she was bound and restrained and sexually assaulted. basically never free. >> adam, do you have -- it might be for real. >> there might be others in the house.
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>> gina might be in the house. we found them. we found them. >> we have a female and she has a young child with her. >> make it two. we also have a michelle knight in the house. i don't know if you want to look that up in the system. 32 years old. >> i'm here! i'm free now! >> tonight, did you hear from ariel castro did to his ex-wife? according to his ex-wife's family, he locked her in a box, threw her downstairs and vicious by beat her. she died last year. her brother joins us. nice see you, alberto. your thoughts tonight about your former brother-in-law, ariel castro? what do you think about him? >> well, my thought is that he's a total monster. i just -- the words that i have for him is just like -- it's horrible. you know, for him to do something like that to those three girls and also my sister, i mean, my heart goes out to
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them. >> did you know that your sister was getting beaten, put in a box and just getting incredibly -- basically getting her brains beaten out by this guy? >> did i know? no. i knew about it later on. it angers me. it angers me that this ever happened to her. >> how long did you know ariel? when did you first meet him? >> well, that was -- that was very long ago. i guess my sister was in her 20s, i believe, when we moved. we lived in a house on buhr and he was a nice guy. actually back then he was really nice. he talked. he talked to people and he got along with everybody. it wasn't until probably two, three years later when my sister got together with him that he
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started hurting her. >> put her in the hospital a couple times, did he? >> yes, he did. a broken nose, a broken arm. he beat her in the head also several times. threw her down the stairs. locked her up also. it was really traumatic. very traumatic. >> about what year did she divorce him? >> i have no idea what year. i was here in california at the time that she divorced him. i have no idea what year. >> i saw one document from her divorce proceedings that suggested about the year 2005. does that seem about right? >> about 2005? she was with somebody else, it
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was a guy that she knew real good and she really loved him. his name was hernando. as far as 2005, i have no idea. the divorce probably was filed, you know, when they were separated. >> is there any hint in your mind, as you look back, that he would do anything like kidnap three -- these were girls. they were kidnapped and then cage them in his house. >> no. >> and with chains and ropes. anything in your wildest dreams you saw any part of this in him? >> no, no. no part of him that i -- no. not at than the fact that he was beating your sister and locking her in a box? >> yes. >> he has children. ariel has children. are those children with your sister? >> yes. he has children with my sister, rosie, emily and other kids, you
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know. >> what is his relationship like with his children? >> he treated them good. he treated them nice. but again, you know, through closed doors you really don't understand how much of a monster he is. he could be nice one, you know, outside and inside the house he could be a totally different person. i -- >> i was going to say that is sort of consistent with what neighbors told me. there were some neighbors on the street, i was there the other night, they said they are so shocked because they thought he was a nice guy. they weren't behind closed doors with him in the house but they also said he seemed like a nice, ordinary guy, some of them. >> yes. he did seem like a nice ordinary guy, but knowing him, you know, for that long of a time, they aren't -- afterwards he started
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hitting my sister and beating on her, and i really did not like that at all. nobody would like that. >> when is the last time you spoke to him? >> the last time i spoke to him was last year, actually. he came over to my mother's house and he gave my mother a puppy. i haven't seen him in ages. and something bothered me because he was nice and to me he was kind of nervous. i don't know if it was because, you know, because of the fact that me and him and some of my friends got into it with him before that he was probably think that we was going to do it again. i was mad at him. >> i can understand. alberto, thank you, sir. >> yeah. >> earlier today on the record the producer spoke to the sister of castro's ex-wife, alita. she was joined by her husband, frank. >> after she had anthony, he was abusive toward her.
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he would smack her around and one time he pushed her in a box. don't know why. i was really young at the time. i saw her pushing her into the box, locking the flaps on the box. it was a cardboard box. there you go, a cardboard box. he told her you stay in there until i tell you to get out. and when i saw that i ran downstairs and i told my mom. my mom came upstairs and when he knew i went down there he told her to get out. and my mom told him what's going on? and he's like nothing, nothing. nothing's going on. >> one day they went grocery shopping. she was taking the bags upstairs. he had a mannequin. why she was at the top of the stairs, he took that mannequin and went like that to her and she got so scared. while pushing the mannequin toward her, she fell down the flight of steps and that's when she broke her skull open from the front of the head to the
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back of the head. we went to the hospital with her there. he did not leave her side to make sure that she wouldn't say anything. so she just told me he's the one that pushed him down those steps. he did it. he made -- he did this to her. that was not the only time that he was abusive. >> there was an incident when he was upstairs and he beat her up that time and he came down and we all beat her up. he beat her sister up so bad. it was my self, it was my friend carlos and her brother and her dad. you know what? we jumped him. we kicked his butt. and we also -- i also, including her father we stopped it. you get to a point you hit him and then we better stop before we kill this guy. it didn't matter. still didn't matter. >> he didn't care. >> he was really racist, by the way. yeah. i remember we would go places and he would always say i hate
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the n people, you know. and you are watching this on tv now, and talking about he had barbecue with the guy next door. maybe as time went by he probably didn't are nobody, but during that time when anthony met his wife, she was black, he was really -- he was really upset about that. >> she's at seymour, as well. did you ever go in the house? >> i used visit her all the time. i was always there with her all the time. i didn't care if he was there or not. i was never afraid of ariel at all. >> what were the conditions? >> the conditions? >> like would he lock the door or -- >> oh, no. she was never allowed out. when i go there, we would go in the porch and that's about it. she can't go nowhere. let's go to the store, oh, no, i can't. ariel would kill me. that's what she would say. i would ask him, ariel, let's -- me and her go to the store?
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no, she ain't go nowhere. she don't go nowhere, she stays here. he would not allow her to go anywhere. back door was always closed. the door in the back had a padlock. had a little padlock. i don't know if it was there -- there now, but then there was a padlock in there. he locked it. he made sure she didn't go anywhere. the front door every time he wasn't there he made sure the door was locked. >> so she had no access to get out? >> no. she never had access to go anywhere at all. >> did she ever try to leave? >> she would try to leave, and there is no way. >> he scared him. >> she feared him. if she tried to leave, he will tell her like you try to leave i'm taking the kids away from you, if you leave i'll kill you. he always told her that. and she always -- she would never leave without those kids.
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>> we saw in the video, and frank joins us live. frank, nice to see you. i'm curious, have you ever been inside that house? have you ever been in the house that ariel lived in? >> i have. one time i actually walked up to the first room only and that's the only place he let me stand. wouldn't let me go no further than that. go ahead. >> was it odd that he wouldn't let you go any further? he would only let you go in one room? >> no, he -- well, we were in here -- we were here from california. we actually drove by to say hi to them and we walked in the house unexpectedly. actually at the time he was with his wife and we walked in to say hi and he kept us in that room and no further than that. hi and bye. almost seemed like we weren't wanted there. we just said our good byes and left right away.
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>> about what year was that? >> well, probably -- had to have been about '96. >> okay. so that predates all these kidnappings. any idea why he wouldn't let you go further into the house? i understand if he had three young women tied up in the basement or chained why, but any thoughts about why he wouldn't let you go further into the house? >> no, no. really no idea. i mean, i would have never expected that from ariel. he can really be a nice guy, but from me knowing him over 30 years, there was something about him that actually triggered. like i said, i grew around him for over 30-something years as a little kid and i didn't -- there was one incident where i know he beat up his wife and there was a little problem with the whole family tried to -- we actually got into a conflict with him and
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we actually were hitting each other. from that point on, you know, anything else after that but for the fact a lot of times relationships, people fight and get back together. we tried to ignore the situation because we didn't want to get involved no more. but for all the years, i mean, christmas, every holiday that we seen her or she's come over to our house, she was never happy. i mean, we know that she had bruises on her. there's been incidents where she's gone to the hospital from being beaten by ariel castro. but we tried not to get involved. >> what about this incident where he put his wife in a box? do you know anything about that? >> i wasn't there, but i do know because my wife told me, you know, she was closer to her sister than any of her brothers and sister. and her sister always told her everything. whenever they talked or whether
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i was there or not, my wife actually told me everything. >> what did she say was the reason she -- why did she say she got put in a box? >> well, it's hard to say because this is a lot of years ago. we are talking about early '80s. this is the beginning of everything. and i think this is the games he used to play around with the kids and his wife. to him he thought it was a joke, but to other people it seemed like he was abusing them because the things he did seemed like people were getting hurt from it. >> frank, thank you, sir. >> you're welcome. >> thank you, sir. all right. three girls who are now young women held captive. it has been by chains and ropes in a house for at least ten years. yet known had a clue, at least no one said they had a clue. one long time friend of the suspect's family calling the discovery a hell of a surprise. miguel joins us.
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miguel, nice to see you. >> nice to talk with you. >> miguel, tell me, when did you first meet ariel? >> well, ariel, you know, i met him about 20 years ago. >> have you ever been inside that home? >> no. i have never been in his house. never. >> what was the nature you are of your relationship? >> well, my relationship, i'm the manager of groupo -- a band. i have been managing the last couple years. i used ariel as my base musician as a substitute in 2008. >> was there anything, as you look back now, anything peculiar or unusual about him? >> no. nothing. he's a humble guy, always very funny. you know, very positive. you know, as of today i don't have nothing negative to say about him until this situation happened.
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>> i mean now what we are learning he's a monster. your thoughts when you find out he gets dragged out of his house with three women who have been kidnapped and chained in his house, what do you think? >> now it makes everybody think not me, it makes you think the whole community. it's a shock to everyone. >> if you could talk to him tonight, what would you say to him? >> i will tell him i don't -- why do you put, as an employee on facebook, the band that i represent, the band that i manage right now, and you were, you know, the last time you played with us was in 2008? why did you put as an employer our band's name right now? >> miguel, i think there are probably a lot of questions a lot of people have of them tonight but i don't think he's talking. anyway, miguel, thank you. >> thank you very much, greta. >> straight ahead, inside that
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creepy house of horrors. terrifying new information about what the three kidnapped girls, now young women, endured for ten long years. that's next. also jodi arias, she's a talker. you heard some of what she had to say last night. tonight she has more to say. parts of the arias interview that have never been seen before. you don't want to miss this. >> maybe i should be flattered that they focused on me so much. if they dislike me so much, why am i always on their radar? this mig get bumpy.
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>> three girls that become young women in captivity. raped, beaten and even starved. what else did they endure for those ten years? councilman joins us. nice to see you, sir. >> good evening. >> i understand that you have information as to what was going on inside that house. what was happening to those women? can you tell me what they were enduring? >> i don't have that much complete details. but what we've learned over the last few days is that clearly they were kept in the basement for some time. we don't know how long. we don't have that much details. but clearly they were kept for some degree of time in the
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basement, separate rooms. basically in a very tight, controlled situation apparently. we don't know for how long. obviously the horrendous mental and miscellaneous cal distress or abuses that went under in fear relative to the control factors that then allowed them to have more access to the rest of the house, very hard to imagine and understands. apart from that, we've gotten the same reports in the incident report relative to the beatings and the miscarriages and some of the other brutal aspects of the case. it's very shocking. it's really sent some waves through the community relative to trying to think about what the future is, but just thisrrey difficult to get over. >> in terms of the leaked police report, i understand that amanda
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talks about her daughter. is there a confirmation that he is the father? >> i have not seen the report, but the sources that i have been in touch with has said that that is confirmed but i personally have not confirmed it myself. >> in terms of their health, do you know -- i mean, i don't know if they were eating well, i don't know what kind of, you know, what kind of -- i can't even imagine what kind of stress they were living under, but what is their physical health like now? >> well, the doctors have not released the details. but we know from family members, et cetera, they are extremely resilient in terms of their mental aspect of being freed, of course. clearly physically they have appeared to be somewhat malnourished in terms of their actual weight, et cetera. but we don't really have any
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clear information from the hospital and just some information from the families. they are just so thrilled and it's been difficult to really get that much details. frankly, i have been respective. my colleagues on council, tony and brady, have been maintaining most of the relationships with the family where i have been primarily dealing with community issues, we had a community meeting this evening. that's all i can tell you in terms of their physical conditions at this point. >> councilman, thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> and tomorrow night right here, you are going to get an in-depth look at the cleveland kidnappings. the case that is now gripping the nation. join us for an on the record special tomorrow night. that's tomorrow night at 10:00 p.m. eastern. >> this is a fox news alert. a sailboat pressing for the world famous sailing race, the america's cup, capsizes killing a british gold medalist. another sailor is injured.
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they are not sure what caused the boat to cap sides. the victim was caught under water. he was finally freed but could not be revived. stay tuned for more on this breaking story. and coming up, the state wants to execute jodi arias. you are about to hear from jodi arias herself next.
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>> jodi arias has a lot to say and she is talking a lot. right after the jury announced her guilty, she said it all only to ksaz anchor troy. he joins us from phoenix. in a minute we will play more of your interview that hasn't seen anyplace else yet. but tell me this, it was expected today the death penalty phase would begin. what happened? >> he don't know. i wish we did. we got there on time.
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i stood around, edged up toward the door. by the time we were supposed to be there. all of a sudden maybe 15, 20 minutes later somebody came out and said no court today. you can go home and resume next wednesday and that's all we heard. >> did you see her lawyers anywhere? i'm troubled why her lawyers weren't in the cellblock with her and prepare and maybe there's a huge gap between them. did you see her lawyers anyplace in the courthouse today? >> no. i was actually doing a live shot for shep smith. i think they walked in but i never saw them walk out. someone said they saw mr. martinez and the jury was there. it was a sealed hearing. that's happened quite a bit in this trial. no official word. a lot of rumors but no official word on what happened today. >> let's listen to what jodi told you because she's told us and no one else. here's jodi arias. >> you had some pretty tough things, i imagine, going through the trial.
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during the trial there were photographs of you displayed. i notice you tended to look away. what were you thinking when those photographs were being flashed up in front of everybody? >> i wanted to crawl under the table and just disappear. >> you had to look at some of the tougher parts of what you have been through the last four months, what would they be? >> just coming to fully understand what i put people through, my family and everyone else, as well. that's the part i'll always regret. >> tell me more about that. what do you mean? >> well, just the way everything
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happened. i think that if i had been honest from the beginning i would be in a different place and so would everyone else. and because of what i have done a lot of people will hurt for a long time. >> it's got to be tough. it's hard for you learning what happened, but if you are telling me if you had done things differently -- you regret about how you went about doing things after travis was killed, after you killed travis? >> yeah. i think i was just freaked out. i know i was freaked out. i didn't know what to do. i knew that i couldn't just carry on as normal, but i tried to do that. i tried to act that part until, you know, until everything came down on me. i guess i just couldn't imagine going to my family and saying,
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hey, look what happened, or going to the police and say, here, arrest me. i was horrified with what happened and it was difficult to face that i had been pushed to that point and that i could be capable of something like that. >> let's talk a little bit about what happened after you were with travis that night and that day. a lot of people who have talk to me have said how could she have gone out and been with another man, maybe only 24 hours after this? how were you able to put that behind you and basically go on a date? >> i don't think i so much put it behind me as i sort of checked out. i hardly remember that day. i don't remember it being nearly as intimate as he described. i remember falling asleep and taking a nap and he was laying next to me. i remember feeling -- it's strange but i remember feeling safe, he wasn't going to snap,
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he wasn't going to take advantage of me and try to do things i was uncomfortable with. i just felt safe with that person. but i knew that -- i mean, it's not like i went up there because i was hoping to pursue a relationship. i went up there because i thought, oh, crap, i need to keep my schedule so i went up there almost because i felt a sense of obligation inside in order to keep up the pretense, not because i was going off to have fun. >> but the thought even to me -- i don't know you at all but i feel i know a little bit about you, but you looked at your hands and you realize what happened. >> yeah. >> and at that point you say to yourself i have to go up and meet this person. i'm going to keep that appointment, i'm going to keep that date. i don't understand how that goes through your mind. >> what happened, i slowly began to come to -- while i was in the
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desert. when i found my charger and i turned my phone on, there were tons of voicemails. one from leslie, maybe a few from leslie and maybe one from ryan. i realized these people are wondering where i am. and i just felt like i needed to buy myself some time and figure out what had happened. i was just very -- i was very shocked. i didn't know what i was doing. >> troy, stay with us because coming up, you were about to see more of what jodi arias told troy. no one has ever seen this before. we didn't even show this last night. we saved it for right now. jodi arias, two minutes away. stay tuned. and everyone but her... no. no! no. ...likes 50% more cash. but i don't give up easy... do you want 50% more cash? yes! yes?! ♪
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i don't want to spend the rest of my natural life in one place. you know, i'm pretty healthy, i don't smoke, and i would probably live a long time. so that's not something i'm looking forward to. i said years ago that i would rather get death than life and that is still true today. i believe death is the ultimate freedom so he would rather have any freedom as soon as i can get it. >> you are saying you would actually prefer getting the death penalty than being in prison for life? >> yes. >> if you were on the injure would you give jodi her wish or sentence her to life in prison? go to gretawire.com and vote. [ male announcer ] extreme environments can cause a spontaneous change in dna,
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travis? >> yes. >> in what way? >> there is a lot of regret because i was really hoping to get a plea and avoid talking about all of the things that came out about him. if we had been able to avoid trial, we could have avoided just the muryier aspects of his life that were hidden and it's not only to from my mouth, the activities that he was up to, the photographs that show that, as well. none of that ever would have come to life. it would have been just forgotten and he would have been memorialized as not perfect by any means, but somebody who was known to adhere to his morales and the principles that he
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espoused but now the curtain has been drawn and you can see the hypocrisy and everything that was there and i regret that because i know that even though he was living the life of a hypocrite, that's not how he wanted to be perceived and i think inside he really didn't want to live that kind of life. >> a lot of you were accusing you of tearing down a dead man's reputation. >> i would have been happy to remain sigh excellent go quietly off into the night to prison. my defense team decided to rip the lid off because we were forced to trial. they didn't want to settle. so it's not that i wanted to plow ahead and do this, but i took the stand because strategically they advised me to and when i was on the stand i had to tell -- i had to answer the questions that were posed to me. >> a quote or sound bite from
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your trial that's played over and over again and you smiled at that time in court, and you said nine days out of ten even he doesn't like you. >> yeah. >> what did you think about that. >> i thought of elizabeth johnson's trial because i was reading the coverage in the paper and her attorney told the jury it's important -- i'm paraphrasing, he told the jury about it's not about who you like her, it's about the facts of the case. i think it might -- i believe it's standard somewhat that jurors need to remember it's not about whether or not you like the defendant. >> does kirk like you? >> i think nine days out of ten. >> nine days out of ten? >> i mean one days out of nine. >> why didn't you get along? >> well, we -- we got along very well for a long time and then we just have had clashes and ideas and ultimately he's the boss.
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>> anything you want to say to juan martinez? >> no. >> you seem to be writing quite a bit during testimony. what were you drawing, what were you doing? >> i was writing just thoughts. when i heard testimony i will write notes, pass it over to keep them informed >> so you weren't drawing? >> there might be occasional little scribbles in the margins, but no, no drawings. >> anything else you want to talk about? >> not that i can think of. well, actually there is one more thing. >> okay. >> i wanted to say, if i could tell somebody in a situation that i was in anything, i just would encourage them to document it. i think that it doesn't mean they have to turn the person in
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or betray them, but should a situation ever arise, i think documentation would have been very helpful in my case. >> you have actually started, at least you tweeted out that you are selling t-shirts for violence against children. do you plan to continue that? >> yes. >> why do you do that? >> my -- well, i assumed that they were doing okay as is with government funding and things like that, just donations, but i have spoken with some people who have worked in those shelters and they always need donations. it's important to me to be able to assist them in being able to assist survivors. >> so i guess i'll wrap it up by saying you talked about domestic violence. a lost people are going to be seeing this. is there one thing you would like to get out to all those people? >> do you mean people in general? >> yes.
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>> i'm sure i'll think of something very clever to say later. >> when you walk out? >> yeah. >> i understand that. >> what i really want to say is to other women who are in a situation that i was once in, and like i just said, i wish they would just document it. that's it. you don't have to do thing with it, you don't have to turn the person you love in, you don't have to do anything, just document it just in case. it's better to have it than not need it than the opposite. again, i think that things would be very different right now if i had documented all of the things that i went through instead of being in a state of denial. >> what would you like to say to all the people who seem to really dislike you, even hate you? >> well, maybe i should be flattered that they focus on me so much. if they dislike me so much, then why am i always on their radar?
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>> anchor troy hayden is the one who got the interview with jodi arias. he's back with us. i'm curious whether or not there is been any response to you getting the interview? >> a huge response yesterday greta, especially after it aired on your show. people being supportive, that was an interesting interview. and shod it shifted. why couldn't you let travis alexander have one day to enjoy the verdict? jodi set the timetable on this. i thought it was an important interview, i thought it should be done and aired yesterday. you have good stuff tonight, greta. >> i'll tell you, troy, the rest of us were just jealous. if they want to send hate mail, send it to us and every other journalist because every other journalist wanted a chance to talk to her too. wednesday they go back to court and the death penalty phase begins assuming nothing happens between now and then, right? i just need a yes or no on that
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one. >> that is right. yes, yes. >> great job. thank you, troy. straight ahead, the jodi arias verdict setting twitter on trial, everybody from donald trump to members of congress tweeting about it. you have to see what everybody is saying, and you will next. for those. a programmable thermostat, very smart, saves money. ♪ cash money sorry. i see you have allstate claim free rewards, for every year you don't have a claim, you'll get money off your home insurance policy. put it towards... [ glass shatters ] [ girl ] dad! dad! [ girl screams ] noise canceling headphones? [ nicole ] that's a great idea. [ male announcer ] home insurance that saves you money for not having a claim? that's allstate home insurance with claim free rewards. talk to an allstate agent... [ doorbell rin ] and let the good life in.
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>> won't are going to switch it up a little. everyone on twitter is talking about the first-degree murder conviction of jodi arias and the craziness of the trial. the trial had it all. sx, lies and more lies. she had her own twitter account and even donald trump took the verdict and twitter and she said jodi thought she outsmarted the jury.
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it didn't work. congratulations to the jury on a job well done. now will it be life or death. and others wheating. i followed the trial, not only manipulative but unable to take any blame for her awful behavior. and another one said she's guilty, deserves death. the trial took too long and the sentencing phase will be another show. >> i think it was wrong, premed wasn't there, and she even caught the attacks of lawmakers on capitol hill. congressman steve stockman of texas tweeting right now jodi arias is regretting not killing an ambassador or philadelphia infant. what? don't forget to follow me on twitter on greta wire and use
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>> greta: pandemonium in washington today. britain's prince harry visiting the u.s., first stop, u.s. capitol, joining senator john mccain to tour a land mine exhibit. then, prince harry head together white house, and get thrk he crashed the first lady's tea party with you but no worries everybody was happy to see the surprise guest. thank you for being with us tonight. be sure to join us tomorrow night for an on the record special. we're going to bring you all of the latest in the case of the cleveland kidnapping. right now make sure you go to gretawire.com. tell us what you thought about jodi arias interview and
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anything that is possibly on your mind. we want to hear from you, on the record -- uh, gretawire.com. good night from washington, d.c.. fired up. >> the o'reilly factor is on. tonight: >> what difference, at this point, does it make? >> bill: the assertion that how four americans died in benghazi doesn't really matter has now become the mantra of the left. we'll take a look at that question with charles krauthammer and the mother of a man who was killed in libya. >> the dramatic story told today by people at the center during that attack in benghazi last year. >> bill: so how much time did the network news give the benghazi story yesterday? we'll tell you and bernie goldberg will analyze. >> i would much rather die sooner than later. >> bill: well, jodi arias may get her wish as a jury in arizona is

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