i am bill o'reilly. please cause remember that the spin stops right here. we are definitely looking out for you! >> sean: tonight a hannity investigation into the irs targeting tea party conservatives. we have full coverage but first our top story tonight. the white house is scrambling to respond to brand new allegations that top administration officials were responsible for editing the benghazi talking points. in a moment we will show you highlights from today's intense press briefing. first an abc news investigation is revealing that the benghazi talking points that they were revised 12 separate times. it is important to note we he now have proof that major edits were made at the suggestion of political appointees. one of those officials was state department spokeswoman victoria new land when she received an early draft of the talking points she made the political judgment to remove

the paragraphs detailing recent terrorist attacks in the region because it "could be abused by members of congress to beat up the state department for not paying attention to warnings." so why would we want to feed that? remember, that was an e-mail from a top aide to the secretary of state. not a member of the intelligence community. so why then did hillary clinton appear before lawmakers and then, well, say this -- >> well, there was evidence and the evidence was being sifted and analyzed by the intelligence community which is why the intelligence community was the principal decider about what went into talking points. >> sean: we now know that was a bold faced lie because as we he just showed you after one of hillary's top advisors sent an e-mail criticizing the official talking points any and all references to al al-qaeda, pro forma and any mentions prior to the attack was all scrubbed out of the talking points. thankfully the media is beginning to pay attention that

we on this program have been saying for months that an administration wide coverup took place after benghazi so obama could get reelected. at the white house press briefing jay carney was asked whether or not political calculations were made during the talking points review process. watch this. >> the language that is e-mail is pretty clear. seems clear that there was an influence by the white house and the state department on the cia talking points. >> but again i think you are forgetting a couple of things here. the whose as i said made maid one minor change to the talking points drafted by and produced by the cia. >> concern was concern about how congress would react a factor in the talks? >> if you look at the development of the talking points, the answer to that is no. >> jay, you told us that the only changes that were made were stylistic. is it a stylistic change to take out all references to

previous terror threats in benghazi? >> i appreciate the question again and what i was referring to was the talking points that the cia drafted and sent around to which one change was made. i accept that stylistic may not precisely describe the change of one word to the other. >> these were concerns raised by the state department that the white house direct the interagency process to, to use in making the talking points. >> i think again. >> the original version included references to al-qaeda and references to islam. the original cia version included extensive discussion of the previous threats of terrorist attacks in benghazi. those were taken out after the cia wrote its initial draft. >> and then the cia wrote another draft. >> based on input from the state department. >> here is what i have been saying, john. >> do you deny that? >> no, john.

>> these were intelligence community talking points that the entell against community led by the cia. >> changes that -- >> could i finish? >> that the intelligence has to sign off on and believe represents the view of what they knew at that team about what happened. >> sean: mr. carney, do you honestly expect us to believe that all of these edits, you can see it right there, two, version three that all of the references to al-qaeda were removed without the producing of the white house or the state department? and didn't you say these were just stylistic edits? a hard sell considering we know for a fact that the cia director then general petraeus told lawmakers in a classified briefing on november 16, 2012 that he thought benghazi was a terror' tack from day one. in other words, i think it is time for jay carney to stop blaming the intelligence community. and by the way, jay, it might be time for you to resign. joining me with reaction fox news military analyst colonel

oliver north. 12 different versions. 12 different edits. they claim only stylistically but removed the important factor tip fors let's see that warned this could happen' head of time and two removing all references this was a terror attack and add and then inserted a lie that they knew was a lie, colonel. where is this going? >> this is going straight downhill because, first of all, they have been lying ever since before the attack happened. think about this. al these talking point ite rations are after the fact. what they are missing and i think someone in the white house press corps is going to find this out is the cia warned about the imminent terror ail tack on the anniversary of 9/11 days before the event and the white house and the pentagon and the state department did absolutely nothing to preposition any quick response forces in the region. that is criminal negligence at worse and major income p income

at best. it is not just the narrative that al-qaeda is still around after bin laden is dead. all the income pa tense that leaves all of the embassies uncovered 12 hours between one attack and 10 hours during the attack in libya and doing nothing about the whole thing except doctoring talking points. outrageous. >> sean: we have the original warnings that came from people at the embassy, the consulate themselves saying we need extra security. >> for weeks and months. >> sean: and then we have two stand downs during the actual attack when americans were under fire and we don't know who gave those orders either and now we know it was all ed detailed in the aftermath of this. >> and in the aftermath of all of that months later after the election poor old tom pickering, 80 plus years of age coauthoring a so-called

accountability review board report white washes the whole thing. tom pickering, sean, in 1983 to '85 was our ambassador in elal value voters dar. he was targeted for asass nation in elsalvador. we tripled the security for tom pickering. wouldn't you think he would say what happened to ambassador stevens was outrageous. i was protected, why wasn't he? none of that is in this report. >> sean: just like fort hood and overseas contingency operation there's is this -- >> don't forget the workplace violence. >> sean: workplace violence. the mysterious reluctance and resistance to just admit that there are radical islamic terrorists that want to kill us. now, in this case i think it is tied to the presidential

andtion of barack obama barack they didn't want this two months after an election. >> and the total lack of human intelligence. we have become so dependent on technical intelligence that we don't have people on the ground who can tell us who of the good guys and who are the bad guys. think about what that means for what is about to happen with syria. still don't have it. the intelligence service is totally dependent on technical intelligence collection and unmanned orvs or satellites is. >> sean: general petraeus knew right away. the president of libya knew right away what this was, terrorist attack. susan rice who read the talking points, regurgitated the talking points never spoke to mr. hecks who was there who excoriated was then excore and later demoted for telling the truth about all of this.

how do we get from a real terror attack this they recognize to this is linked to a youtube video, this was spontaneous? how many protesters do you know that have a rocket propelled grenade in their back pocket for spontaneous demonstration? is that common thing? >> how many are out there watching a youtube video made in california. this was concocted as an excuse for their incompetence. it totally con flates the whole theory once bin laden was dead we don't have to it worry about al-qaeda any more. >> sean: what is the aftermath? >> out to be that congressman

frank wolf has a resolution to form a committee. he ought to do it. >> sean: mr. president, if you you have nothing to hide you can go ahead and get the attorney general to do this. i think it is same. shuns onews coming up on capit. lawmakers vow to get to the bottom of the benghazi cover up. a bomb shell admission from the irs. they admit they are targeting conservatives. all the details and also tonight as always we ask for your help. you get to pick the video of the day. you will see a clip of each of the three choices. option number one stunning police shootout footage released. >> court. the winner will run its entirety at the end of the entirety at the end of the oh, he's a fighter alright. since aflac is helping with his expenses while he can't work, he can focus on his recovery. he doesn't have to worry so much about his mortgage, groceries, or even gas bills. kick! kick...

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an awful internet video that we had nothing to do with. >> an offensive video. >> deputy hecks is was shocked. >> i was stunned. my jaw dropped. i was embarrassed. >> when hicks dared to question

why secretary clinton and others were contradicting the facts he told her he was ordered not to talk to congress. >> this was a concerted effort to shut him up. he was demoted and chewed up and he says he has a job now with no responsibility. >> a 22 year veteran demoted for threatening to blow the whistle. how could this happen? was she part of a cover up a? >> part of a protest or guys out for a walk one night that decided they would go kill some americans? what difference does it make. >> the difference is a coverup and four american lives that deserve the truth. >> sean: that was an american crossroads ad about the white house cover up a. joining me with reaction from the daily caller tucker carlson and mark cannon who assed to work for john kerry whcan who used to work for john

kerry. 12 edits in the talking points all references to what they originalally knew was right that this was a terror attack. not upo spontaneous. 12 edits. sound like a coverup to you? >> i think you think it sounds like a coverup, sean. >> sean: i asked you what you think. why remove references to a terror attack? a particular group tied to al-qaeda and then totally removed and out of no where out of thin air the other excuses come in? doesn't sound like a coverup to you? >> i don't know if you have been part of anent agency process. this was led by the cia and the darrell issa investigation he is known as a good attack dog. nobody really thinks that he is this kind of watch dog public servant treeing to get to a sober fact finding mission.

people know he is motivated be politics and this is not the way to honor the four dead americans. >> sean: you are not the answering the question. >> sure. >> sean: jay carney saided only stylistic changes were made. if you removed it was a terror attack and remove removed remoa and it was spontaneous and related to a you tube video is that a minor stylistic change or a major edit two months before an election to help get your president reelected? >> if you are barack obama you probably want to scare people into thinking there is an exaggerated terrorist threat. >> sean: do you have a hard time hearing. i will ask you the question again. you heard my question. if you remove references to terror, if you -- >> right it is extremism that they removed reference to. >> sean: this isn't a joke. there were four dead americans. >> i just said that shuns we >> sean: we were warned by the

cia that that could happen. the stories have the right to the truth. they had the right story originally and took out all references to the truth. why would you not' tribute that to being changed for political reasons? >> taking out all references to the truth is a patent ex-agarics. they said there was information contained in the early drafts of the talking points that would have tipped off adversaries overseas. >> sean: you are full of crap. >> the political calculation -- >> we know actually some what have happened. the cea offered up analysis to the administration and state department and new youland who is a hillary loyalist and well known mediocrity and hackl said this could be used by the republicans to attack us and thus began the process is of changing the cia reports into what became the talking points you saw on shows.

blaming the cia is ludicrous. it offers up analysis and data to the executive branch which then makes the policy. to blame the cia for setting american policy in benghazi in the aftermath is absurd. >> sean: that is the smoking gun. they said why give this to the republicans. actually said it in an e-mail. >> vicvictoria neuland said th. >> sean: when jay chaffetz went to benghazi hicks was excoriated by sheryl mils for failing to talk chaffetz without an attorney. >> are you going say that greg

hicks is some sort of secret initiative. >> the job is to have a third-party present. he was doing his an ambassador. >> the left ought to be up in arms about in. >> greg hicks stepped into the role of the ambassador. first base who worked in foreign service knows you need a third-party to record and take notes because if there is any question or yore collection of what happened in the meeting you need a third-party. you know that. you know that. >> sean: you sound like a bureaucratic hack. why can't an active h head tell a member of congress investigating the death of four americans why can't he freely tell him what happened on the night of the benghazi attack without getting beat up, excoriated and punished by hillary clinton's chief of staff? >> a member of congress that voted for cutting $300 million in the embassy security just a

year ago. >> sean: we are spending more money in 2013 than 2012. the sequestration as a resulted we still have more money spent this year than last year. nice try but i got to roll. thank you for being with us. thank you. i love the show on the weekends. a great job. >> thank you. >> sean: coming up the irs is guilty of targeting conservatives. the tax agency admits that organizations that had the words tea party or patriot in their title that they got additional scrutiny. when we come back, kimberly guilfoyle and jay sekulow will react. and also tonight, the video of night. select the video of the day. time to unveil the second option. a coast guard official vows to stand up for religious freedom in the military. do you think this is the video of the day? >> i'm telling you that i am coming out today to tell you i am not going to run from my

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>> sean: welcome back to "hannity." breaking news out of washington a bomb shell admission by the irs the tax agency officially apologizing for subjecting conservative groups to additional scrutiny during the 2012 election. the irs admitted "mistakes were made initially but no, no way due to any political or partisan rationale. in reality according to an ers

official organizations that specifically include the words tea party or patriot were faced with additional reviews. seems political to me. house majority leader eric cantor said earlier today he would investigate. that reads in part "the irs cannot target or intimidate any individual or organization based on political beliefs. the house will investigate this matter. and when asked about the irs admission earlier today press secretary he's back jay carney did what the obama white house does best and that is blame the previous administration. what a shocker. fortunately he went on to say action might be taken. >> two things need to be noted which is irs is an independent enforcement agency. which i believe as i understand it contains only two political appointees within it. the individual who was running the irs at the time was actually an appointee from the previous administration. but separate from that, there is no question that if this

activity took place it is inapproach patriotic and there needs to be action taken and the president would expect that it be thoroughly investigated and action taken. >> sean: the irs is not an independent agency. it is part of the treasury and why investigating they might want to look into exactly those people looking at the irs because the official dealing with the issue made another admission today. this one about her poor math skills. i can't believe this one. >> you are saying a quarter of the 300 were associated with tea party or republican issues, correct? >> no, i said that about a quarter of the cases that were selected for full development had either tea party or patriot in their name. >> okay. sorry. thank you for the clarification. that would be a quarter of the 300 then so we are talking 75 or so? >> that's correct. is that a quarter? that's correct. thank you. i'm not good at math. >> that's correct. >> you are with the irs. >> i'm he a lawyer. i'm not an accountant, sorry.

>> sean: an employee at the irs can't do math. you better do your math right or they will put your in handcuffs and perp walk you and take you off to jail. with us is kimberly guilfoyle and jay sekulow. the aolbermanngy not accept ised. >> you can say you are sorry all you want. not only was it wrong and inappropriate but unconstitutional and illegal. jay carney trying to argue that the internal revenue service is not part of the executive branch of government is absaturday. the commission irof internal revenue service is appointed by the president and the chief counsel of the internal revenue service is also appointed by the president of the united states with advice and consent. all this i'm sorry it shouldn't have happened it was wrong. remember what they were all saying just a year ago.

there is no way this was partisan and even today the irs says we did pick them up based on their name and put through more scrutiny including membership lists and donor data. things they are not entitled to under the law but they say it is not partisan. this is absurd. needs to be an investigation by the oversight committees. but somebody has to be held accountable here, sean. this is outrageous. >> sean: an effort to intimidate. >> certainly. >> sean: i know you were working with the tea party groups. my he buddy mark levin back in march of 2,012-cent out a letter to the treasury inspector general which he told me he today led to him being interviewed about this particular issue and when you look he had a list in his complaint in the letter of the questions that they are asking. have you ever done any media? i mean really? that intrusive into people's lives? >> it is inappropriate. the irs are the biggest profilers in the business and

if you have any kind of conservative leaning background afelliation they will target you and come after you. this isn't speculation. they are admitting it. there should be further investigation. see what other groups et cetera were profiled and regardless of partisan process, no american should be targeted because of their belief and then taxed unjustly because of it. that is ju unconstitutional, immoral. >> sean: imagine if this was a republican nixon by the way was accused of it -- >> let me tell you something else here. you're right. duplicity is unreal. we are sending out a letter to the internal revenue service demanding that the remainder of our clients affiliated with tea party groups or conservative organizations be granted exemption immediate le. we are looking at a cause of action against the treasury for what they have done here.

they don't get away with this. this is far from over. apology not accepted. >> sean: kimberly, to me the inquiries about personal associations and viewappointments not only inappropriate. we have predo freedom of the ps and freedom of association and freedom of speech. >> aberendtly thapparently thee and beyond the constitution. this should be scrutinized. >> sean: the irs spokes person admitting that they can't do math. >> turbo tax cheat tim geithner all over it. little old sean hannity if i don't do my math right i will be handcuffed perp walked and put into jail probably in 30

minutes. i will be calling both of you as my lawrs. >> she was in -- is in charge of the tax exempt division of the irs. a big position. >> sean: unbelievable. they are now claiming it is low level people. throw them under the bus. they probably won't even fire anybody as a result until we push for an investigation. thank you. good to see you and we do need that as well as everybody else. we will have more reaction to the unprecedented scandal regarding the irs targeting conservatives. breaking news out of cleveland. a major development involving dna tests that linked castro to one of the victims. members of his own family are beginning to break their silence. log on to the special companion site. go to hannity live.foxnews.com and pick the video of the day. join us on twitter as well @ sean hannity. a daring rescue of window washers dangling 26 stories

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>> sean: welcome back to hannity. reaction from republican lawmakers is pouring in regarding the scandal involving the irs and its admission that they targeted conservative groups and subjected them to higher scrutiny. the chairman of the republican national committee reince priebus you called for immediate congressional hearings. scotty hughes. this obviously affects the tea party. tea party word patriot. when did that become i guess a word that needs scrutiny? we now have a political operation here targeting people for their belief system. >> completely. and what the question here is just like you point out in the last segment, richard nixon has to be up in heaven shaking his head going what else is it

going to take? he was removed from office for a crime committed so far down the chain and here with the obama administration we have seen benghazi and solyndra and fast and furious and now this yet we have no clue where the buck stops with the obama administration and now dictating what board words are actually criminal? when does it end. >> sean: the president once joked about auditing his enemies. >> he bond hear caused them to come out with this no. landmark legal put pressure on them in 2012. the groups saying we are getting all of these questionnaires and paperwork meant to stymi what we can to. these tea party groups were pivotal to the grass roots and getting people excited. this was to prevent them from doing what they do best. >> sean: i want to make a

prediction and this prediction is i think everybody out there let me predict between benghazi which has now become a major scandal and this issue involving the irs targeting conservative groups here is my prediction. just like when they came out with the news about women in the military, expect an attempt by the white house to shift the nation's attention. right or wrong? >> shift toward what, though? >> sean: they will find something. they will make it up? >> shift over to jobs and the economy? he has been a disaster for that. >> sean: but the media loves them. >> but now even people in the media. i was watching a panel on another network even say ising that this benghazi stuff is out of control. >> sean: good to know. >> i agree with sean. we have seen it time and time again. the way obama deflects from one scandal is going to another. who would have thought that we

would actually see the irs being obama's henchman. that is what happened. we don't know what creative minds people like jay carney and rahm emanuel have created for the next scandal. >> sean: they stall and delay and don't hand over documents and then after this he deleaders for a period we have already discussed these things which is their tactic. >> also remember that everyone who was talk persian gulf this, mark levin et cetera we were labeled conspiracy theorists. guess what, now it is justified and now you have the irs coming out and saying, yes, we did do this, target tea party and patriots. what are you looking for exactly? >> sean: the landmark legal brief was brutal and sent to the right person and that is the treasury inspector general for tax administration which led to this and then the tea party groups also got representation as well. i guess -- >> we have known about this for three years, sean. i will be honest with you.

we have known that this has been going on. my sister organization the tea heparty.net have been trying to apply for a 3014 c status. they had to provide donor list and any e-mails sent for three years and that status has not been granted yet. this is just one of a hundred let me do the math correctly, one of 100, o the grounds going through the jute the any. i think this will go deeper and deeper. what scandal are they going to use to cover this up? possibly something they are using for benghazi. >> sean: low level people. throw this one under the bus and that one under the bus. >> but every president has a legacy and a it may not hurt him now but eventually people will look back and say as far as jobs a failure. national security, a failure. now, targeting different groups you don't agree with, that is not acceptable. history will hold him accountable.

>> sean: let's see jay carney lie his way out of this one. that will be interesting. what does he say at this point? going out there saying it is not part of the administration and the bushed a a menstruation. sounds like abush and the bush administration. he sounds like an idiot. >> we will see this rewritten and if it doesn't end up as just a side footnote i will be sur priced. >> sean: thank you both for being with us. we are not give up on benghazi. we are not giving up on conservative groups targeted because of the view youpoints. coming up next, disturbing new details about the cleveland kidnapper who held three women captive for nearly a decade. his own children are describing him as a "monster." you get to pick the video of the day. it will be unveiled. which of those t woman: everyone in the nicu --

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>> sean: welcome back to hannity. dna tests have confirmed that ariel castro the monster is indeed the father of amanda berry's 6-year-old daughter and after being charged with kidnapping and rape for holding three ohio captive in his home for nearly a decade his relatives are beginning to break their silence. one of his daughters told abc news that her father deserves the death penalty. other relatives are say agatha he terrorized his former wife and beat her and pushed her down the stairs and once shoved her into a card board box. joining me are psychiatrist dr. sue varma and dr. robi ludewig is with us. this is a pattern of behavior. the whole law enforcement issue of it. maybe people are just too

believeing that people will change, right? once you see that behavior is it likely they are are going change? >> not. not to the extent that the events occurred with his wife. some of the torture that happened later on a lot of it was foreshadowing early on and it bothers me that the cases get dropped on a technicality. when was talking about child abuse happening to him or earlier on. it was like, true, true but unrelate. >> but you there are people who don't turn into sexual sadists and kidnap people. i wonder if once his wife left him. she was the target of all this abuse if that contributed to him creating this pseudo family. they also say with some of these kind of sexual sadists that they he not only want power over the women that they kidnap but they also want the company. they want the control. but you you that is we they keep them around. this guy didn't kill the women. he kept them around. he procreated with them.

>> sean: for this to go on for ten years you don't have a soul. you got to be a soulless person. >> that's right. and that is what makes somebody edevelop. when you have is no ability to feel when another person is feeling or -- >> sean: doesn't psychiatry not recognize evil today 124-6789. today? all biochemical. let me give you a pill. >> when you look at psychopaths and sociopaths, the hall mark is lack of empathy and lack of remorse and lack of responsibility. >> sean: can somebody develop that? >> yes. >> sean: what is the likelihood if somebody is so consciousless that they can mow down kids in a classroom that are six years old or do what this animal did to these girls, how can they develop a conscience? >> we don't know how to cure

sociopathy. thisociopathy in some cases the is born bad. unable to heal. >> in some cases they are so abused that they say i am going to heal. >> sean: i feel like i'm in therapy right now. >> you are in therapy and i cured you. >> you were confident, dr. lud dr. ludewig about the' built of the girls to evercome and have a good life. >> everybody has a different resilience level but there are women who have been kidnapped like these girls and gone on to either be counselors, to write books about their experience. gone on to get married and have kids. will this be a part of their life forever? yes. but you it doesn't need to stop them from living as healthy a life as possible. the human spirit is tremendously resilient if you

get treatment and put good support systems in your life. >> sean: when we had the boston marathon bombing all of those soldiers that had lost their legs to ieds, a lot of them went and spent a lot of time with the victims of that terror attack to show them hey, i was exactly where you are and this is where my life is now. which i thought was really cool. >> it and you are bringing up a great point is the idea of altruism when we look at resiliency, coping, having flexible coping skills, altruism, sense of humor, sense is of is support. being able to give back is the the biggest thing. when you mention about writing the books and being a counselor you have to get out of your own brain. so much of trauma and ptsd and anxiety is self-absorbing. i'm hot saying you shouldn't be depressed after this happened. i would be depress. >> you need to go through the period of depression and grieving. >> exactly. >> once you can find the

meaning in any type of horrible situation and figure how you will use that to not only better your life but those around you that can be curative. >> sean: maybe that is what helped the soldiers who had lost their limbs. i bet they have a sense of purpose helping the boston bombing victims or other soldiers that had the same trauma happen late. and probably had a good psychological foundation before the trauma. >> sean: they were young. these were real important formative years for the girls. >> they were there for ten years. 14-year-old and 17-year-old. >> sean: if he gets the death penalty. seems the prosecutor may go for it. what do you think? >> i think that he is not going to change and if you are going to be using resources up there is better weighs to be spending money, 50 to 7 who thousand dollars. >> i would like to see him dead and get chemical castration.

>> the castration first? >> before so he can experience female hormones. i would like to see him dead. >> sean: one last side know the question not related to the topic why doesn't psychology and psychiatry recognize evil more? why is everything viewed through the biochemical prism? >> we are not here to judge. >> i don't think you can measure evil scientifically. >> do you believe human beings are also of spirit. >> i do. >> i do. >> sean: so that means good and evil. >> i think there are evil behaviors and if someone doesn't have the ability to recognize they are inflicting pain or enjoy inflicting pain. that is an evil act. whether they are evil or not is an interesting question. >> and people who are antisocial personality disorders they experience physical pain a lot less than the average person. if you hook them up to brain causing eelectrodes.

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the question is how do you make sure you have the money you need to enjoy all of these years. ♪ >> sean: welcome back to hannity. time for the video of the day and tonight you the viewers choose the deadly shootout in florida. according to the miami herald narcotics were investigating a home that they suspected of

being a marijuana growhouse when a gunman came out of a parked car and started shooting at the officers. the video was caught on home surveillance cameras and played for the first time in court yesterday during a bail hearing for one of the suspects. according to the report one of the detectives was hit with three bullets in the stomach and collapsed offscreen. the suspect was killed in the shootout. unbelievable. the guys have a tough job every day and thank god they are out there. that is all the time we have left this evening. as always, thank you for are being with us. let not your heart be troubled. the news continues here on the fox news channel.

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>> alisyn: good morning, everyone. today saturday, may 11th. i'm alisyn camerota. thanks for joining us early. not once, not twice but 12 times the benghazi talking points were changed. so who was behind that? the white house says not them. the cia began. the cia in this case deputy director of the cia. the cia. >> alisyn: well, this morning we will separate fact from fiction for you. >> and if the dead boston bomber was buried in your backyard, how would you feel about that? >> i'm a christian jesus says love your enemy. >> i'm