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see you back here on monday night. >> greta: tonight, an on the record special. held hostage tenrs of terror. three girls kidnapped and now they years of torture are inside a cleveland basement. >> on one of the mornings you will not soon forget. missing for ten years finally found and today they are free. >> i have a caller on the phone with a female who says she is amanda barry and a she had been kidnapped ten years ago. >> nothing short of a miracle. >> three women missing for ten years found alive. amanda barry, gena dejesus
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and regina knight. >> charges against 52-year-old ariel castro. >> she says he has been holding her here for ten years. >> i have been here a year. i was barbecuing with the dude. we eat ribs and listen to salsa music. >> and you had no indication -- >> bro, not at clue that that girl was in that house or anybody else was in there against their will. >> this might be for real. >> i will tell you this. because i was there to see her. all three girls. god works in mysterious ways. >> got the others in the house. >> go ahead. >> we found them.
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we he found them. >> thankfully. and i mean thankfunda's brave e three women are alive today. >> i just signed criminal complaints charging four counts of kidnapping and four counts of rape. no charges will be filed against the other two at this time. there is no evidence that the two individuals had any involvement. >> the child kidnapper operated a torture chamber and private prison in the heart of our city. >> the only opportunity after interviewing the young ladies to escape was the other day when amanda escaped. they were in that home, they don't believe that they have been outside of the home for the last ten years respectively. >> ariel castro charged with kidnapping and rape. kidnapping and rape. kidnapping and rape on the third. and kidnapping on the fourth. >> they were not in one room
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but they did know each other and they did know each other was there. >> while in captive itity they were about put through repeated beatings. they were bound and restrained and sexually assaulted. basically never free to leave the residence. >> michelle knight said castro got amanda barry pregnant and forced knight to deliver the baby in a plastic baby pool to contain the mess. she said she got pregnant five times but every time he forced miscarriages by depriving her of food for two weeks and repeatedly punching her in the stomach. >> the amount of effort. the amount of leads. the amount of work hours and dedication that went into this, i have never seen it before over the last ten years. >> these three young ladies have provided us with the ultimate definition of survival and pe perseverance.
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>> greta: they escaped from the horrible years of tenuous sexual assault and torture. but they are not the only ones terrorized by ariel castro. his former in laws say he beat his then wife breaking h her nose and breaking her arms and even locking her in a box. the 48-year-old died last year. her second husband fernando colon joins us from cleveland. good evening, fernando. >> good evening, ma'am. how are you? >> greta: i'm very well. fernando, tell me, when did you first meet ariel? >> i met ariel around 1995 right after i met grimelda. >> greta: under what circumstances did you meet both of them? >> i met grimelda at the hospital where i work in as a security officer. she would come in with different types of injuries and
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for her appointments that is where we met. >> greta: did she ever tell you where she got the injuries or who you she got the injuries? >> yes. she stated to me that the injuries were inflicted by mr. ariel castro. she -- i saw her with a broken nose. dislocated shoulder. broken nose. i think fractured ribs. also to the extent of a missing tooth. >> greta: did she come in is that just one incident or come in more than once with injuries? >> she came in more than one time with different injuries, yes. >> greta: how did you at some point you and grimaldi developed a relationship. was she already is separated from ariel? >> yes, she was. when i met her we spoke about her injuries because she was looking kind of devastated and
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kind of afraid of something. i approached her and we started talking. she explained to me the situation and what she was going through. >> greta: did you at some point move in with her or marry her? >> yes. shortly after that occurred in the hospital where we met and we talked for i think probably two, three weeks, i asked her if she would accept my help to get away from mr. ariel castro. she accepted and she moved in with me, and the kids. >> did she ever call the police on him? >> she made police reports, yes. but to call them directly, no. >> greta: at some point so the two of you are living together and are you living with h her children with ariel? >> yeah, she was living with me and we had the four children.
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ariel castro, jr., emily, angie and arlene. >> greta: later on as time marched on suddenly the community learns about the fact that there are these missing girls, one of whom is gena dejesus, is that right? >> yes, that's correct. >> greta: were you ever questioned about that disappearance? >> yes, he was. >> greta: explain what happened? >> i was at work as a security officer for international investigations at west 110th and lorraine plaza. i was told by my employer that the fbi wanted to talk with me and that they needed the patrol car i guess to check it out for any type of evidence. >> and did that happen? did you talk to them? >> yes, i did. i went with them downtown to
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their field office and i was interviewed with them, yes. >> and were they asking you about the disappearance of gena? >> that's correct. they asked me if i knew gena, if she was ever with me in the house. was she ever in my vehicle. if i ever spent any time with gena. >> greta: why were you interviewed? who put your name in this? >> my thought is that mr. ariel castro had informed them that sense i was living with the girls and they were friends that they must have been around me and possibly had something to do with it at that point. >> greta: so ariel castro the guy who gets caught now with gena and the other two he is the one that sent the fbi out to talk to you? >> that's correct. >> greta: fernando, did you ever tell the fbi they should investigate ariel?
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>> yes, did i. i told them to look into ariel castro. >> greta: did they do it? >> no, they did not. >> did you ever suspect ariel castro of having any involvement in gena's disappearance or the other two? >> let me put it this way. it did not surprise me that this did happen. i knew the type of person that ariel was. he is a very smart man. i also said he is like a psychologist, very possessive and very dangerous man according to everything that his ex-wife has told me. >> greta: did his ex-wife ever suspect him in the disappearance of the three? >> as far as i no, no, she never mentioned anything. >> greta: had you ever been inside the house? >> no, as far as i have been is to the front of the house. >> greta: so when you heard the other night that he was arrested, your thought, your first thought was what?
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>> my first thought, i thanked god because for a long time i was saying that ariel castro was a very dangerous man. he had the opportunity and the means to get those girls. they disappeared in plain daylight with no struggle whatsoever. and also i felt very happy for my ex-wife as you know she passed and i took it as a revenge to her for everything that he did to her. >> greta: thank you very much. >> thank you. >> greta: and now to the neighbor who is being called a hero. charles ramsey hearing amanda barry's chilling screams for help and racing to the rescue. >> i was eating my mcdonald's and i hear some girl screaming so my neighbor he come across the street and i looking at him going across the street
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wondering where he is going. he goes next door to my house and i look and see this girl and she's just going nuts on the door. i'm like what your problem you stuck just open the door are and she says i can't he got it locked. i looked how he has it and it is only enough to reach your are hand out to grab the mail and close the door and she naturally going to pry it open. that didn't work. so we had to kick open the bottom. nothing on that door was aaluminum. it was cheap. she climbed out with her daughter and went to my house and called 911. when the police get here she says there is three more girls up there and that is when gena -- and that is when gena dejesus and they brought two more girls out. >> you saw' manda barry and geena davis? >> ain't that something? >> did you know it was then. >> no, i ain't never seen. >> it was only when the police said. >> the detective told me who that was. i didn't know who that was. >> how did they look in what condition? >> oh, malnutrition. >> they didn't look good?
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>> no, no. no, none of that. they weren't none of that. no gatorade or nothing. they looked like they hadn't been fed in a long time, bro. a long time. they were skin in when they come out of the house. we sue this dude every day. i mean every day. >> how long have you lived here? >> a year. i barbecue with this dude, we eat ribs and what not and listen to salsa music. >> you had no indication. >> not the a clue that that girl was in the house or anybody else was in there against their will. he just comes out to the the backyard and plays with the dog and kicking with the cars and motorcycles, goes back in the house. you look and look away because he is not doing nothing but the average stuff. you see he what i'm saying? nothing exciting about him. well, until today. >> greta: three girls now young women grabbed and held against their will right in the middle
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of a cleveland neighborhood. neighbors are outraged by what was going on right under their noses. israel lugo tells us what he saw. sir. >> nice to meet you, ma'am.
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more girls upstairs. so chuck went to turn around to retrieve the other girls. >> how old was the girl. >> the girl i was to say about five years old. >> was he gentle am and nice to her. >> she and her hair was done. he had a white hat on and pair of khakis. it was a typical sunday and father and daughter. like i do, with my kids i take them to the park. you know what i'm saying. it was a typical day. you know what i'm saying. >> had you ever been in his house? >> no. you can't even put a foot on the step. he didn't like that. he was very protective and stuff
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over there. >> where? >> i can't say. he had a bunch of cars and trucks and motorcycles. i never thought in a million years. in the backyard. that is my backyard. >> greta: did he actually live there. they didn't even know he lived there. he was boarded up and come and check and o it? >> he would go to work and come like 9:30 in the morning, park the school bus and come out with a big old school bus with mcdonald'ss and sokas. but he did this every day for a long time. he would fake a bunch of food and right after work he'll jump out hif motorcycle and come back and go get a car or something. >> greta: did you ever hear any noise coming out of the house? >> in 2011, i was walking home.
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it was late 10:30 at night, somewhere around there. shaking up. >> greta: the sister? >> yes. >> i believe a little girl, she said ariel. she said go check it out. i go over and there is plywood on the windows all over place you can't see anything in the house. i called the police. she asked me to call the police. the cops came. half an hour or so. they 20 times. it was five or six minutes, there was no answer. and they weren't there. so the guy in the car and took off. >> greta: when did you see amanda with the baby? >> when she first came out of the house running. first ever i seen their face until the story cam came out ten years ago. >>.
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. >> greta: that was the baby you seen him with? >> at park. >> you must have fallen over? >> i saw the baby come out of hiogs. that was same child playing with my daughter. and then for me to notice this is having these kids all the time. good neighbor and he turned you to the be a piece of crap? how would you feel about that? >> greta: in order not good. what would you like to say to him. >> he don't want me to tell you be i promise one thing brother, i'm going beat you and your two other brothers worst nightmare. i put you [ bleep ]. >> greta: and straight ahead. this family missed clues and warning signs about ariel castro evil dark side. now from a former band member and close friend go on the
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>> greta: three girls and held hostage and they grow and become
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woman. was anybody ever suspicious of bus driver and musician ariel castro. gina dejesus says she played with castro and he was inside castro's house. what do you see there. here is what was pulled off. >> tell me, how long did you know him? >> roughly 20 years. >> and then in the 20 years, did he ever do anything odd what has developed in the last 24 hours? >> he seemed like a normal person. normal musician i never knew him his personal life. so i respected that and everybody was pretty much music. >> you are in a band together? >> many bands, yeah. >> and this house, you were inside? >> i went in the house first couple times i met him for a rehearsal. two years back ways moving out of my house. i sold him some appliances. he took a bunch of stuff my from
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my garage. can you help me take some of this stuff home. i said no problem. and i helped him take some of the stuff in the house. as far as living with him, we did a lot of things, he had furniture and hide his instruments out there. he seemed pretty calm. he wanted me to chill out with him. no, i really have to go. i got a performance. i really got to go. he seemed northerly. not knowing that, you have the two girls that were there. >> did he say he lives with anyone, what is his brothers there? >> ever since i knew him he was a loner, he was divorced. he was married before and i never seen him. >> and did he say anything that might indicate a woman was living in the house? >> no, not at all. >> windows boarded at all? >> they weren't boarded.
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they were like inside maybe somebody had shades on. kind of really didn't notice. i didn't go looking for clues. i went in there, not knowing that he was doing what he was doing. when i found out yesterday. >> greta: the discovery of three kidnapped young women stunning makes. he says he knew ariel castro for decades. man he once called kind-hearted he now calms a monster. we spoke with perez in cleveland? >> i've known him for 22 years. >> describe him? >> from what i knew him, he was a great guy. nice guy. very charismatic. very kind. and kind-hearted. you didn't feel a need to put your guard up. you were able to be yourself. me as a kid growing up. i have a lot of friends that
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didn't have male role models. he could have felt that void. >> greta: are you surprised by this in how you think of him? >> yeah. everything i just said is cancelled. it was all a lie to cover up the monster he really is. >> greta: did he have odd hours or anything peculiar at all? >> the last two or three years, i have seen him go into his house in the morning, but i thought the house was vacant. i thought he was just going to make sure everybody is okay and make sure that nobody broke in. i thought he lived on another property. i never saw him pass by. it was like the other houses that are empty. they are just empty. >> greta: were there lights on the house at night? >> no. >> did it look vie can't to you? >> yes. >> greta: why do you think he tried to own a vacant house and
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didn't sell? >> my personally, i thought that the area over here, the property value may raise up with time. i just thought he was being smarted and not selling right now. >> how did you hear there was something going on? >> i came home from work and i was inside with my nephew and the door was open and it was pretty warm. we heard the could motion. my nephew looked outside, there was an ambulance and bunch of cop cars. there were were 20 cop cars. i see the hero because he is hero. i see him talking very animated with one of police officers. i thought he was in trouble. i don't know him that well. my first thought, he is in trouble. it turns out he wasn't. i find out one of police officers, lady officers said to another officer, get some water and for 9 ambulance. that when a cop came up to us
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and let us know what was going on. my mom told her. >> greta: there is a little girl, too? >> i just found out about that. a lot of people can't see a positive in this ugly situation. i'm glad they are okay but a negative situation, something positive came out of it. a precious child. i see thank god. >> greta: on the record is on the ground in cleveland. you will see what our team uncovered at the scene of each kidnapping. plus our legal panel. this is on the record special, held hostage, ten years of terror.
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