let not your heart be troubled. we'll continue the news and all you need to know right here on the fox news channel. greta van susteren is standing by to go "on the record." see you tomorrow night. greta, take it away. >> greta: this is a fox news alert. these are the benghazi emails. we have them. more than 100 emails released by the white house. you're going to see them for yourself. why is the white house releasing them now? karl rove has an idea he'll tell you. also breaking, did president obama make a scapegoat at the irs? the agency accused of unfairly targeting conservative groups. now the acting irs commissioner is heading out the door, but was he thrown under the bus? but first tonight, fox news chief congressional correspondent, mike emanuel. mike? >> house speaker john boehner sent a message today that he was looking for more than somebody to resign from the irs. boehner says this question, who's going to jail over the scandal?

republican leaders clearly this is much bigger than acting commissioner steven miller, and though he's on his way out, the hohouse ways and means committee says the hearing set for friday morning will still go on and miller will be there. darrell isa sent an email to miller today requesting transcribed five interviews with employees. they won't be under oath, but it is a crime to lie to congress. it is clear key lawmakers don't believe the irs cincinnati office was acts on its own against conservative and religious groups seeking tax exempt status. greta? >> greta: mike, thank you. we're learning more and more from the just-released benghazi emails. james rosen joins us. james? >> most of the 94 pages of emails that were released late tonight were typed and sent amongst white house, state department and cia officials on friday, september 14th, two days before u.n. ambassador susan rice delivered the false

talking points on the sunday shows. the emails reveal that white house officials at that time, like john brennan, now director of cia, made at least one substantive change to the talking points on that friday, a fact that contradicts the claim by java this week that the white house's only contribution to the 12 drafts was the minor tweaking of consulate to diplomat facility late in the process. the fbi was still maintaining that al-qaeda was involved in the benghazi attacks even after the cia had stricken all references to that terror group. greta? >> greta: why were the emails classified? do you have any idea? there's nothing particularly earth shaking. when things are classified that shouldn't be, it never sends a good signal to me. >> the conclusion of people who studied benghazi closely, followed the story all along, that the contents are not

helpful to the white house. i don't think these emails help them. >> greta: that's not a reason to classify, things that make you look bad. >> not all of it was classified. i asked the tonight who was the actual authority to declassify documents declassified these. was it the president himself? the answer i got back from a senior intelligence official, where necessary the cia did the actual declassification of the documents. i think the white house's bet in releasing them tonight when they did was that the contents of these documents might be obscured somewhat by the bigger news of the resignation of the irs director. >> greta: have they certified this is the complete complement of emails or is there likely to be a gap here? are we getting the full set of emails on benghazi? >> you're getting the full set of this set, but, for example, in these emails, victoria nuland, the then state department spokeswoman, talks about how how her building's leadership is consulting

directly with the national security staff. those consultations, we don't know who the members were, what the outcome was. for those consultations we have at this hour no documents at all. so are there other sets? quite possibly. >> greta: reporting earlier, you talked about -- maybe it was bret baier earlier in the evening -- talked about the -- jay carney had once referred to it as a style listenin stylistit the white house had done with the emails. now we find it's profoundly more than that. was he kept out of the loop, the only thing they told jay carney, or was he trying to be cagey? >> i know jay carney for many years. we usedzeñ?ñ?ñ?ñ? from september 11 onward that are highly problematic for him now. the stylistic change is just one of them. we now see there were other changes that white house officials were making beyond the one change that he points to as stylistic. he also stated from the white

house podium back in september of last year that of all the initial evidence they had, there was no evidence, no evidence, that pointed to this being a premeditated or preplanned terror attack. in fact, we now see that the cia from the earliest drafts of these talking points was saying we do know that islamic extremists tied to al-qaeda participated in the attack. that's not no evidence. as i just reported on this program, late into the process, even after al-qaeda had been stricken from these talking points, the fbi was still saying that they believed that al-qaeda was involved in these attacks. that's another of jay carney's statements that has to go by the boards at this point. >> greta: james, thank you. >> thank you, greta. >> greta: the irs scandal is exploding. late tonight president obama addressing the nation insisting he will not tolerate the irs's behavior. >> americans have a right to be workweeangry about it. i'm angry about it. ilnot tolerate this kind of behavior in any agency, but especially the irs, given the power that it has, the reach that it's has in all of our

lives. >> greta: the president also announcing the resignation of the acting irs commissioner, but did the president make him a scapegoat? karl rove joins us. good evening, karl. >> hey, greta, how are you? >> greta: very well. the news tonight, the acting commissioner has resigned. one of my colleagues at fox news, bret baier, has sent an email and says that the acting commissioner was set to resign the position of acting commissioner as of early june, and he leaves the irs a couple of months later regardless of the current controversy. he got that from an official close to the acting commissioner. >> right. >> greta: of course he only came into the job in november. is he a sacrificial lamb or what? >> actually greta, in the federal law, you can only be an acting director so long. so he was coming to the end of the term that he could be the acting director. they either needed to make him the actual director or replace him with somebody else. in june, he was out one way or

another. i thought it was interesting today, he said, issued a statement, said he looked forward to an orderly transition. the president didn't tell him to pack up your desk and get the heck out by the close of business. apparently he'll remain there for some period of time until they name an acting replacement. greta, i can't -- that statement tonight by the president was a faux anger. remember on friday, earlier today, on friday the president, earlier today, jay carney, both said, if this happened at the irs we'd be upset. the irs admitted last friday that they did this. it wasn't a question of confirming it. they admitted it last friday. so. president knew that the -- knew that the public outcry was rising. so he went out tonight and said he would fire the acting director. oh, two other things i was going to do. he'd have the -- the irs would implement the ig recommendation, the inspector general report. oh, really? you'd have to do that anyway. secondly, promise to cooperate with congress in an

investigations. mr. president, you have to cough up your secretary and key officials to testify before congress. it was all about pr, trying to get ahead of a story that he'd fallen behind on. i hold him responsible for. i hold a lot of members of senate responsibl responsible f. senator macbaucus sends a letter in september of 2010 to the irs, investigate these groups. by early 2012, chuck schumer of new york gets six other democratic senators to join him. he pressures congressman pete welsh of vermont to get together a similar house letter, all of them saying to the irs you better do something about this. the president went out in september of 2010 and said that 504c groups were, quote, enemies of democracy, end quote. there's more than low-level bureaucrats for setting the

tone, encouraging this behavior. >> greta: you brought up a number of things. i'm sympathetic to this acting director. just came into the job in november. now the president gets up in front of the whole nation and says he's out as though he's stepping up to the plate, we're really catching the bad guy, throwing him out, you know, when fact, he was only there six months, going to leave anyway, because his term was ending, and he's not out the door anyway. >> remember, miller knew about this early, and apparently did not tell shulman, or if he d the nominated and confirmed director of the irs, if he did tell shulman, then shulman lied to congress under oath. so miller we now know knew about this before this became public, and did not alert his superiors or raising a warning flag to his ultimate bosses inside the treasury department. >> greta: where does this go? what's going to happen? is this an issue that was consuming us now for the next

couple of days and go away or is it going to stick around for quite some time and get more explosive? >> i think it's going to stick around for quite some time. the question is, does it stick around for a while or a long while? i think that depends on how forthcoming the administration is about this. we have a lot of things to find here. first of all, how much pressure being brought to bear -- remember the senate finance committee chairman is the oversight of the treasury department, ultimately the irs. their budget depends on the good sufferance of the chairman of the senate finance committee. chuck schumer is on the senate finance me. you get a rambunctious on the committee rounding up six other democrats to send a letter, if you're an irs bureaucrat you want to be on the good side of the chairman and his likely successor. this goes beyond just low-level bureaucrats in cincinnati. we now know there were bureaucrats in washington who sent out these letters, bureaucrats in california who sent out these letters. this smacks of a greater, you

know, sort of effort inside the irs to punish conservative groups. i have to admit, full disclosure, american crossroads gps is one of the 501c4 groups that's been mentioned in some of these letters by members of congress, whose application is still sitting before the irs. so, you know, but we've got more to find out here. the question is how forthcoming are people going to be is going to determine how long this lasts. permanent damage has been done to the irs. >> greta: karl, we also -- i want to ask you about the breaking news tonight on benghazi. the white house finally releasing more than 100 pages of emails. first of all, any idea why it took so long? you know, what was the administration trying to keep from us? why in the world was this stuff classified? >> i don't know why they took so long. i think they just thought if they continued to say nothing, that this would go away. i've got three observations about this, greta. first, i'm amazed how many people in this email thing are communications people. you got at least seven of them. the head of office and public

affairs at the cia, victoria nuland at the state department, ben rhodes, and tommy vietor at the national security security council, sean turner, director of the office of national intelligence, dean boyd at the department of justice, and eric pelton at the u.s. u.n. office. so we've got a bunch of communications people. why are all these communications people setting out the definition of what happened in benghazi? it strikes me, they ought to be smaller players in, this there ought to be bigger players. the second thing that strikes me is, victoria nuland is clearly driving the antagonism toward the cia-drafted points. there's an interesting email she sends out in which she says, at 9:24 p.m. on friday night, these don't resolve all my issues or those of my building leadership. they are consulting with nss. some unnamed boss of hers is consulting with the nss, which is the national security staff, meaning the white house.

so the question is, who above victoria nuland was talking to who over at the white house about these talking points? there's also a reference in here to a sivits on friday, a secure video conference with the cia, statehouse, white house and fbi, they're talking about the talking points, the opposition of the fbi to the talking points. it also says the deputy director of cia will sit down with ben rhodes and tommy vietor to work out the talking points, which makes it soun sounds like the we house is the ultimate decider on the talking points. the question we've never gotten answered is, who is responsible for cooking up the story that the anti-muslim video is what caused this? and we may have -- i mean, we may have a clue in these. on saturday afternoon and evening, there's a series of exchanges between an unnamed

person at the us/un mission, maybe eric pelton, and tommy vietor, and ben rhodes, going back and forth about the preparation for susan rice for the sunday morning talk programs. now we do know that victoria nuland has already told the press, i had nothing to do with prepping susan rice, and jacob sullivan, then at the state department, is now joe biden's foreign policy director, he says too, i had nothing to do with preparing rice. we have pelton in communications with the white house, ben rhodes and tommy vietor, saying, you know, we need to get finalized on what we're going to say tomorrow morning. my question is, who was responsible for cooking up this story? and maybe pelton, rhodes, vietor, or somebody else at the us/un mission ought to step forward and answer whether it was them who cooked up the story. >> greta: two things. i think victoria nuland is sort

of an interesting study in this. first of all, she's the one who wanted to at one point -- i think it was on the night of the 14th, which was friday. she sent an email and saying knowing the line about extremists who were demonstrators will come back to us at the podium, you know, answering how do we know who they are. she was worried about that. she's worked very -- she's been a republican administration employee, a democratic administration employee, and she's now a very strong advocate in this. her name appears all over it. she's interesting. the overriding question i have, why didn't everyone tell the truth from the get-go? what's wrong with admitting terrorists? we need to know if there's a risk out there. i don't like all this scurrying around, hiding emails, classifying this dog and pony. we've got jay carney, who i don't know how he faces the white house press corps now having said that ridiculous stylistic thing, how is he supposed to have credibility on behalf of the president?

for one simple reason, they didn't want to tell us the truth from the get-go. for no reason. no one got rich off this. >> no real reason. they had political reasons. the head of the office of congressional liaison at state participates in this, and sort of says, oh, we can't tell members of congress about the warnings about all these previous incidents. that will come back to haunt us. well, they're clearly engaging in cya. what's interesting, and again i repeat, victoria nuland is operating on behalf of, quote, her building, and she says they aren't happy, and they are in touch with the national security council staff. who was it at state department who was unhappy? was it cheryl mills, the chief of staff to secretary clinton? was it secretary clinton herself? who was she talking to at the white house? who were they talking to at the white house? were they talking to donelan, to the chief of staff? who were they talking to at the white house? and frankly, i'm a little bit -- you know, it gives me comfort

that adults were trying to resolve thi simply all of these press types running around. finally the question is, was it pelton at the us-un who briefed susan rice, and did pelton come up with the lie about the video? did they come up with, in conversation, whoever that person was, with rhodes and vietor? the question is who is responsible for propagating this? the american people deserve to know. >> greta: let me add one thing. when it's a matter of life and death, you know, i think we ought to be honest. all the political games that are played in this city, when it comes down to life and death, and that's what this is, terrorism that could strike at anytime, they should have told the truth. i hope we get to the bottom of it. karl, thank you. >> you bet. thank you.

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>> greta: he was at the end of his term in a month, the president making an announcement that he'd resigned a month earlier. >> a perfect scapegoat. he was exiting the stage anyway. might as well make it look like he were chopping his head off. we've been lied to at every single turn on every scandal, and they're coming together in a major train wreck. it's catching up with him. that's the thing about being a liar, you have to be a good memory, and it's catching u with this president. >> greta: the guy was automatically out in a month. >> that's why it's so insulting, they think so little of our intelligence, we're not going to find these things out, they won't be held accountable. the media hasn't held them accountable for anything for four years. i think they felt they were invincible.

now that you have the department of probe of the ap journalist wires. i mean, when you have phone tabs of reporters now maybe the tables are turned. >> greta: actually i don't think phones are tapped. i didn't think they have phone records, that will sort out, which is slightly different. a press conference tomorrow by the tea party. >> yes. this is a major press conference where all of the major tea party organizations across the united states are coming together, having a big press conference at the capitol. joining us mitch mcconnell, members of the house of representative. members of the tea party are livid. they want to react, tell their story publicly. now the american people can hear them tomorrow morning. real people with real stories, people targeted by the irs, and american center for law and justice will be there as well. they're talking about a lawsuit if people aren't granted status by friday. >> greta: you come here as a

multipurpose guest, because you're also a tax lawyer. >> because i like you, that's why. >> greta: i'm curious, with the irs doing this, what is it sort of the usual time period for people to get tax exempt status. i know they got the run around. if you apply for tax exempt status, when should you hear back? >> within a reasonable amount of time. certainly not two years. doesn't take the irs that long to do it. i knew it was a phony story last friday when the story came out. when i was a former federal tax lawyer, did this work, we had strict jurisdictional limits within the irs, because we're handling people's tax data. it should be. we can't act without that zone. we have strict standard operating procedure. we check a lot of boxes. our supervisors up the food chain check everything. it's impossible for someone to go rogue. impossible. >> greta: so you don't think it's a couple people in cincinnati, just deciding to be

nasty to some tea party people? >> oh, no. we know it wasn't. there were letters that came out of washington, d.c., letters came out of california. this stinks to high heaven. it's not over today. the white house tried to make this end today by this big show-and-tell about the irs commissioner leaving. all this was was damage control 101. this is a very big story, because, remember, it's not just tea party, not just conservatives. christians like franklin graham said they were targeted. >> greta: and billy graham. >> billy graham. pro-israel people. this had to do with our beliefs, political and religious beliefs. >> greta: is it a conspiracy or a -- >> there's conclusions we don't have answers to yet. we know that the head of the tax exempt had given donations, $2,000 in donations, to president obama. the overwhelming number of

donations went to president obama from people that were within the irs. i think even more importantly, the suspicion is that this really came from the white house, the political director. we don't know that. that's what we have to find out. >> greta: tonight is there any sort of hard-core evidence, you know, even good circumstantial evidence? >> well, that's what we're about to find out, why we need to ask questions, need access to witnesses and emails. all of this needs to come forward. this is not a one-day story. this is something that's very critical, because of what's going to happen tomorrow. tomorrow is the repeal of obamacare. that's my bill. the american people want this very unpopular bill repealed because the irs, greta, is the chief enforcer of obamacare. so now we find out these people are making decisions based on our politics and beliefs, and they're going to be in charge of our healthcare? there's a huge national database

being created right now. your healthcare, my healthcare, all the fox viewer healthcare, their personal, intimate, most close to the vest secrets will be in that database, and the irs in charge of that database? the irs will have the ability potentially, will they, to deny healthcare, to deny access, to delay healthcare? this is serious based upon our political beliefs? that's why we have to repeal obamacare. i still think it's possible. >> greta: always nice to see you. >> thank you. >> greta: coming up, the emails show how involved the white house and state department were in changing the talking points. why the change of the talking points? trying to get it right or be cagey and slippery? congressman jason chaffetz is here to talk about that next. also more troubling news for the irs tonight. hear what this group is accusing the irs of doing, and it's not what you think. that's coming up. eing your busi in a whole new way.

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>> greta: this is a fox news alert. we now have more than 100 pages of email on the obama administration's response to benghazi eight months after the attack, the white house finally releasing the emails. you're about to see more of them. also tonight attorney general eric holder saying no to a special counsel for benghazi? >> will you appoint a special counsel for benghazi? >> no. >> greta: the attorney general says no. >> this medicatio administratiot open and transparent despite what the president said. congress is allowed to do their, we might get to the truth. >> greta: let me turn to the benghazi document dump. first of all, do you have any idea whether is -- >> i know for total certainty,

this is a small smidgen of what they have. there are 25,000 documents. >> greta: emails? >> a lot of themes are emails. a lot of them are unclassified. the white house has hand-selected these. >> greta: if i worked at the white house, i wouldn't hand-select a lot of these, i can tell you that much, if i were going turn them over. >> my colleague tray gowdy had highlighted last week, something done on the 12th, less than 24 hours after the attack, beth jones then says to most of the senior leadership at the state department, she says definitively, she told the libyan ambassador that it was an star alsharia, islamic extremists, that committed this terrorist act. she didn't say terrorist tax, but a ansar al-sharia.

>> greta: why didn't they release them? >> because they're embarrassing. we're talking about unclassified documents, and still eight months later they won't release them. >> greta: can't you subpoena them? >> every time we have on the show we have the same discussion. we're taking this one step at a time, we're making progress. >> greta: if she's saying this on the 12th in an unclassified email that's white house won't surrender, we've gone through the 100 emails, the topic of video doesn't come up until the 15th. it comes up in a subject line, which is the day before the talk points, which was the 16th when ambassador rice went on. for the life of me, i can't figure out why they were stuck on that, kept pushing that on us, unless it's -- unless as the

president said a week before at the convention that al-qaeda was on the run essentially. >> look, there was clarity when this event happened. we heard testimony from the people on the ground. we see an email going out to the senior leadership within the state department. there was clarity. that then turned to a cluster, which then gravitated to a bunch of untruths that never got untangled. we didn't get more clarity. you know, because they said, oh, well, it's the confusion of what's happening. no, no, we went from clarity to confusion to a cluster instead of the other way around. >> greta: this email on the 12th that just won't be released, are you sure it's unclassified? absolutely. >> greta: why can't you release it, then? >> the state department has shown over eight tronchs of different documents, they bring them into the state committee room, with a minder, essentially a babysitter, and watch us and

take notes as we look at documents we've taken down what this email says exactly. it's unclassified. we've seen it. it was in that tronch. and that's one that trey gowdy held up in the meeting. >> greta: can't you xerox? >> the state department won't allow it. >> greta: the state department won't allow you to xerox a document that's unclassified they're showing you? >> exactly. >> greta: that's nuts. >> that's what the white house press corps has to ask the administration, because the president will look you in the eye, look you in the camera, and say as we get new information, we'll reveal it. we're open and transparent. then they hand-select 100 that don't make them look good. 100 out of 25,000. >> greta: what happens when you ask specifically about this september 12th email? >> they won't release it. >> greta: do they say no? >> they say no. >> greta: don't you follow up and say why not? >> we've been having this since

the very beginning. i asked just a couple weeks after the attack to start providing documents. we've been so patient. only now that they're being more embarrassed, the white house -- >> greta: do we get these. >> yeah. suddenly the white house will release those. if you're going to release those, release all of them. they're unclassified. >> greta: congressman, thank you, sir. good luck getting that email. >> we'll get it. it will happen, it will happen. >> greta: coming up, even more trouble tonight for the irs. an ohio man in fear of what the irs has in store for him. he's next. that's after, of course, the irs used his name in a questionnaire to a tea party group, a group he says he has nothing to do with. he'll tell you about what the irs did to him. that's next. in two minutes, new developments in the jodi arias trial. the latest two minutes away. humans. one day we're coming up with the theory of relativity, the next... not so much.

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obama telling the nation that the acting irs commissioner is out and new safeguards will be put in, but that doesn't solve all the irs problems. one ohio man has a big problem with the irs. he found out his name was in an irs letter, a questionnaire, to a tea party group, a group he has no connection to. so is why or was the irs singling him? he joins us. nice to see you, sir. >> hi, greta, how are you? >> greta: very good. you're part of the cincinnati tea party group. is that correct? >> that's correct. >> greta: another tea party group with which you had no connection was seeking tax exempt status. is that right? >> that's correct. >> greta: so how did you learn your name got put in a questionnaire to them? >> well, when they received their irs letter, they being the liberty township tea party, one of their board members called to let me know they got their letter, which at the time was not a particular surprise, but also called to tell me question

number 26, the one that asks, describe your relationship with justin binnick thomas. >> greta: after you got that call -- i've got a copy of the questionnaire here, with that particular question, number 26, i read it with my own eyes -- what did you do? did you reach out to the irs? >> i did through my congresswoman. she reached out to the irs on my behalf. >> greta: and what did the irs say? >> nothing. they denied they asked about individuals within these groups despite having a copy of that letter included in the query. >> greta: did you say, quit lying to me, i'm reading number 26, i got the questionnaire, the goods on you, you're lying? >> we tried. typical red tape there. at that point i wasn't able to get any farther because

apparently i didn't have standing, because the letter wasn't addressed to me, despite having my name included within this question. >> greta: well, i have a copy of another letter, from lois g.lerner, the director of exempt organizations, dated may 14, 2012, to the congresswoman, who says the reason they are not going to tell you about is because of taxpayer privacy provisions. they think they're going to protect you and i guess the tea party group in liberty township by not telling you why your name showed up on their questionnaire, right? >> that's fascinating. absolutely right. >> greta: let me ask you something, why would the irs be interested in you? ever been a terrorist, been nasty about the irs, send them a threatening letter? why you? >> i've been asking myself that, greta, since it came through. you know, there's thousands of tea party leaders. there are many here in town. i don't know why i was so

interesting. you know, until the news broke again on friday, i would wager that most people didn't know who i was. >> greta: do you feel intimidated at all? does this bother you? >> well, certainly there's a degree of intimidation, but there's really more a degree of just general concern. i would like to know why i was on that letter. i would like to know what is done with that information they collect. does it result in an audit for me or my small business. does it get shared between various governments in the government. now that they're an enforcement body for healthcare, does that get put in my file per se? >> greta: i don't think based on this letter you'll get answers to that, because now they're hiding behind privacysy, justin. i wish you the best of luck. maybe they will come clean with you. thank you, justin. >> thanks for having me on.

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make public certain of our tax returns but others are schedule b our list of donors and addresses. this showed up on the human rights campaign web site as a pdf file. our computer technicians were able to get rid of the redactions on the file. >>. >> greta: what makes you think this is a political gesture? it's your -- i take it your political opponent wtz human rights campaign? why would they are so gung ho to do this to you? >> well, we're political opponents they try to harass our donors but human rights campaign was headed by one of the people who had become the national co-chairman of the obama for president campaign. >> greta: who

is -- anyone -- was anyone as significant as a donor? >> yes. governor romney was one of them. and that is, of course, you know this is at a time when there was intense focus on the marriage issue as cross the country and efforts to intimidate our donors to prevent people from donating to our cause, we can weigh in a political battle but significantly this is a felony. it's been a felony since post water gate. remember, one of the articles impeachment brought prepared against president nixon was this kind of disclosed private tax returns. it was a misdemeanor back then, 1964 congress changed the law to make it a felony, punishable by $5,000 fine and up to five years in prison for every unlawful inspection of a private individual's tax returns. >> greta: well, we'll wait and see what happens on this, there is a lot of intense

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