>> steve: join us tomorrow, trace adkins will be with with us and others. >> gretchen: join us for the after the show show. bye-bye. fox news alert. we get a look at devastation, texas. screen right is the live news conference. screen left is the scene of the damage in the city of grand barry. -- granbury. this is six dead is the latest word. >> press release came out to me is the lake granbury medical center. chief of staff, put out a paragraph and the ceo has put out a paragraph so we'll make sure that everybody needs it gets it. but there, the hospital is running smooth and things are pretty quiet for the most part up there.

we haven't had any reports of any first-responders getting injured or anything like that. so things are going good. we have been able to track a storm track this morning from the storm last night. it, we're going to be looking at that to try to track the storm from the air today and be able to put out more information about that later in the day. i don't really have next time to say, we'll together and do a press conference but we've been asked about doing a tour out to the scene so we're going to have a bus available. i don't want all the big trucks. we don't have time for dragging all that stuff and setting it up there because we've got crews working, bulldozers, heavy equipment, lots of people, lots of manpower. we want to get you in to get you to see what you need to see and get you back out. bring what you can carry and we'll take you out there. we'll leave from atv parking

lot at 10:30 and we'll head out there and let you get video at that point in time and we'll bring you back out there. it will be escorted in, escorted out. don't have anybody following behind with the big trucks. we don't got time for that. >> sir, can you talk about the damage, the number of homes that have been damaged or destroyed and what are we going it see back in those neighborhoods? >> last night i put out there are approximately 110 homes out there and i have not got a total count yet from the, the main concern is life safety and finding any victims that still need our help. making sure we to those victims and, and their pets too. we had issues with that. have the humane society coming out with more pets that are loose and running out there. so i don't have an exact count on any of that stuff yet. still worried about life safety. bill: they have a big challenge on their hands there in texas. six dead, seven missing.

45 injured as we watch the latest on that story. it is a busy news morning here on "america's newsroom." back to texas in a moment. mean time there is more breaking news. the white house in damage control mode as potential scandals keep piling up. benghazi talking points, the irs controversy the administration is trying to diffuse the backlash. welcome everybody, good morning. live in "america's newsroom". i'm bill hemmer. martha: it sure is. welcome, everybody. i'm martha maccallum. president obama as you saw last night ordered some big changes at the irs. he wanted to make sure unfair misconduct never happens again there. let's look at some of that. >> it is inexcusable and americans are right to be angry about it and i am angry about it. i will not tolerate this kind of behavior in any agency but especially in the irs. given the power it has and the reach it has in all of our lives. martha: here's what they have done.

irs workers admitted they targeted conservative groups for extra scrutiny as they applied for tax-exempt status. the agency's acting commission was gone. a lot of talk he was on the way out any way. we'll get to more of that later. there have been a lot of developments since the story first broke. here what we know. it started three years ago back in 2010 when the irs began inappropriate screening for conservative groups as those applications came in for the tax-exempt status. nearly 500 groups fell into that net. they were all subjected to what is now considered unfair and overly burdensome scrutiny on those applications. while these groups, many of them had tea party in their name, patriot in their name, constitution in their name, all of them then had to wait more than three years for their organizations to get it together and get the tax-exempt applications that they wanted in order to become active. in fact they waited across

two election cycles during that period. that raises a lot of questions. bill: a lot of questions for mike emanuel, chief congressional correspondent on the hill. mike, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. bill: now that the acting director was out. he was expected to leave in a couple weeks anyway, are republicans satisfied? >> no. they clearly want a thorough congressional investigation, bill. they clearly think this was much bigger than just one guy. you heard house speaker john boehner on your show yesterday ask, who is going to jail for all of this? outgoing acting commissioner steven miller will appear at a bipartisan house ways and means committee here on capitol hill. after his departure announcement some key republicans offered this reaction. >> this stinks to high heaven. it is not over today. the white house tried to make this end today by this big show an tell about the irs commissioner leaving. all this was damage control 101. >> they're reacting in a pretty appropriate way on

the irs side. he is not defending what happened. he is saying we'll get to the bottom of it. good job, mr. president. >> reporter: as for the future of the irs don't expect there to be permanent leadership anytime soon. senate republicans will want to get their answers before they will be in a mood to confirm anybody, bill. bill: on the other side, what are democrats say today, mike? >> reporter: sand did i levin the top ranking democrat on the committee was quite critical of irs management. after the announcement he offered this statement, quote, the president took a vital first step in achieving accountability. the inspector general's recommendations must be fully implemented to assure the same mistakes are not repeated. that is interesting because the inspector general made nine specific recommendations. irs would accept. the levin says you have to accept all nine. bottom line they want to hear from the inspector general and irs officials at the hearing tomorrow, bill.

bill: mike emanuel leading our coverage on all that today from the hill. martha. martha: meanwhile the rnc chairman, reince priebus believes there is more than meets the eye here. he was on "hannity" last night. here is some of what he said. >> i think this is the beginning. i think the dominoes are just beginning to fall. reality is we have a president who obsessed request a couple things, power, his ego and hatred for dissent. and so all of those things combined spell out owl of these three scanned deals. and so here he is now in front. american people. on each of these scandals saying, number one, i didn't know about this irs scandal when his white house chief counsel had the documents three weeks ago. you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that this was a cover-up to protect a re-election effort. and you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that these folks hated the tea party. bill: that was priebus last night. also saying that the resignation of the irs

acting chief is not enough. he claims president obama should apologize to the targeted tea party groups as well. martha: so the white house also under a lot of pressure from both sides of the aisle and also from some former top obama advisors yesterday. they did finally release 100 pages much e-mails that were related to the talking points that followed the benghazi terror attack. the internal documents show some of how the obama administration crafted the final storyline that ended up in ambassador susan rice's so-called talking points on the now infamous sunday morning shows that weekend. james rosen has been on this since the beginning. he is at the state department this morning with some more details for us. james, republican lawmakers say the white house press secretary jay carney they believe has lost his credibility in some of the exchanges he has had on this issue. is there any basis for that charge? >> reporter: martha, good morning. jay carney of course serves at the pleasure of the president. that said, some of his prior statements from the

white house podium about benghazi and about the white house's involvement in the shaping and reshaping of the all together 12 versions of these now infamous talking points do appear to be flatly contradicted by some of the information contained in these e-mails. here is one such statement. >> but the only edits made by anyone here at the white house were stylistic and nonsubstantive. they corrected the description of the building where the facility in benghazi from consulate to diplomatic facility. and the like. >> reporter: but at 6:48 p.m. on that fateful friday, september 14th, national security council spokesman tommy vitter e-mailed colleagues, john brennan, white house counterterrorism aid, now cia director, will have edits. four minutes later vieto e-mailed out brennan's edits which included cia's assessment that the attackers hailed, quote,

from across many sectors of libyan society. jay carney's insistence last september there was an all of the initial information the white house sad, no evidence to suggest that benghazi was a premeditated attack is belied at numerous points in these 94 pages of e-mails where you have the fbi and cia expressesing with high confidence that al qaeda was involved in the attack. martha? martha: all clearly in the initial version of those talking points. you also have a lot of input revealed in these e-mails, james, from the state department as well, right? >> reporter: more in fact than the administration would have us believe. at one point a cia official writes in these e-mails that the state department, posed, quote, major reservations with much or most of the talking points and adds, we revised the document with their concerns in mind. then state department spokeswoman victoria nuland was a major player. that evening of september 14 she e e-mailed to complain the cia expressions of certainty about the nature

of the attackers. at 7:15, she e-mailed the line that there were extremists will come to is at podium. who they are, et cetera. without reply to the earlier e-mail, she wrote, i had a convo with redacted name. on that basis i have serious concerns about all the parts highlighted below. at another point knew land makes quote, state department leaders have oge line consultations with the national security staff about these talking points. forethose consultations we have at this hour, martha, no documents at all. martha: yeah. and it is clear that the state department was concerned about the suggestion that there had been, reality there had been prior attacks on other diplomatic posts in libya. they wanted that out. and a number of other things. james, thank you very much. we have a lot more coming up over the next couple of hours. see you, james. bill: house speaker john boehner now saying that he hopes the release is a sign

of more cooperation to come but he says, they prove key changes were made to the so-called talking points. quoting now. those findings are confirmed by the e-mails release today and they contradict statements made by the white house that it and the state department only changed one word in the talking points. seemingly political nature of the state department's concerns raises questions about the motivations behind these changes and who at the state department was seeking them, end quote. martha: you're in the right place this morning to learn about these major stories. we have some very big guests on this today in "america's newsroom." florida senator marco rubio will join us to talk about the irs scandal. kentucky senator rand paul, and the chairman of the house judiciary committee, bob goodlatte, all are in "america's newsroom" today. there they are up on the big board, those gentlemen. we'll talk to them in a little while. bill: certainly will. meantime back to the destruction in granbury, texas. we heard from the sheriff down there. the task of rescue and recovery.

bear in mind there are still seven people missing at this hour. we're live back on the ground in granbury in a couple minutes. casey stiegel is on the ground for us. martha: is the acting irs chief east resignation enough to deal with the trouble at the irs. a top senator in congress doesn't think so. florida senator marco rubio joins sus with the case what he thinks is the culture of the irs and the administration. >> the irs admitted to targeting conservatives, even if the white house continues to be stuck on the word, if. now, my question isn't about who is going to resign. my question is, who's going to jail over this scandal? man: the charcoal went out already? ... forget it. vo: there's more barbeque time in every bag of kingsford original charcoal. kingsford. slow down and grill.

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martha: well we've got the new numbers on the amount of americans who got on the unemployment line last week. it jumped to the highest number in six weeks. 360,000 filed for unemployment benefits last week. let's take a look at the jobs picture over the last five years to give you a

look at the wide scale here. claims were lower in december of 2007 but they were certainly higher at 667,000 claims at the peak back in 2009. bill: back to our top story this morning now. the white house releasing about 100 pages of e-mails showing many in the administration helping to shape the talking points at the attacks of 9/11 in benghazi. this is onesent about 9:00 that night, september 14th, which would have been a friday. here is where we stand at this hour. everyone submitted coordination comments. the state department had major reservations with much or most of the document. we revised the document with their concerns in mind. that from a cia official. republican senator rand paul out of kentucky, a member of the senate foreign relations and homeland security committee with me here, sir. good morning to you, sir. >> good morningsing, where are you on this today, sir? >> one thing that is fascinating we had several statements from hillary

clinton saying she wasn't involved. now turns out her spokesman was involved. miss nuland was writing statements saying you, you know what? politically this isn't going to look good. sounds like hillary clinton's fingerprints are all over these talking points and you know, really her resignation was the beginning but she never really fully accepted culpability. she needs to accept culpability for this disaster in benghazi. bill: in addition to hillary clinton, that is the person you want to talk to then? >> well, yeah, because she has been saying she had nothing to do with these talking points. sounds like her spokesman, which is essentially her, is e-mailing back and forth saying she is having conversations that night presumably with state department leadership, i would think that includes hillary clinton. bill: does then, does this also clarify to you or raise more questions as to how susan rice was collected -- selected to go on the sunday shows? >> maybe. maybe to deflect a linkage to hillary clinton.

but the whole point is, hillary clinton has resigned but she hasn't accepted responsibility for this. not only was she intimately involved with the talking points, for six months it was her department turning down the requests for security. so absolutely we need to get to the bottom of this. we also need to get to the bottom of this so it doesn't happen again. it isn't just about the blame that hillary clinton deserves for this scandal and disaster but it's about not letting this happen again. nobody really has made the point that i think the embassy in libya should have been under military control. that was hillary clinton's decision. the president's decision. and we still have an embassy there under state department control. and i wonder if they're still adequately protected. bill: why do you believe military control was necessary then? >> well, because it is a country just emerging from war. most of the time the host country provides the ultimate protection for our embassy. well they were leaving the militia, the unofficial february 17th brigade was

supposed to guard our ambassador? when they either saw people coming or were complicit in people coming, they ran. they were immediately gone. all of a sudden they disappear and there is nobody guarding our embassy or our consulate in benghazi. i think it was inexcusable. bill: this from general petraeus in the 96 or so e-mails. quote, no mention of the cable to cairo either. frankly i just as soon not use this. what do you make of that? >> yeah. a lot of misgivings about what they were going to say. i still don't understand their motivation unless it was purely political not to call this terrorism but really, you know the fact that the state department wasn't matley involved in this and they were taking out factual information because they were worried about the political ramifications of that, i think that is a pretty important point. bill: rand paul, thank you for your time, senator. it was brief. we got a lot of breaking news today. appreciate you coming on.

>> thank you. bill: martha. martha: the irs scandal is putting spotlight on a curious promt from the 2012 election when senator harry reid emphatically said mitt romney had not paid taxes in 10 years. where did he get that information? bill: good question. if you went to bed last night and wake up a millionaire today, that 360 million powerball jackpot got a bit bigger so start dreaming bigger. martha: okay. ♪ .

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i mean our neighborhood is gone. it is just gone. martha: wow! casey stiegel is live in granbury, texas. so what is the latest news there, casey. >> reporter: martha, as you know a terrible night here in north texas. we're in the media staging area. you heard the hood county sheriff at the top of the hour with the press conference saying they're not allowing any of the press in. i can tell you we drove all around this area trying to get in to bring our viewers the best pictures and it is sealed off. that is because that search-and-rescue operation is still underway. as you said, seven remain unaccounted for this morning. six died overnight. 45 people injured and we're now hearing more than 100 homes. in fact, about 110 homes either damaged or destroyed. these deadly twisters coming with very little warning last night. and at the worst possible time after the sun had gone

down obviously. in the dark you can not see. many some tornados were wrapped in rain. meteorologists describing one here in granbury that touched down as one mile wide. that is astounding. listen to how one little boy described what it was like, those terrifying moments. >> i was just so scared. it was so loud. >> i'm sorry. >> why were you scared? why were you scared? >> it last loud. there was hail dropping. and, my little brother was crying. >> reporter: just heartbreaking. 20,000 people in this region remain without power this morning, martha. >> oh, that poor little guy. what a scary experience for him. as you say, this was such a large, widespread system,

right, casey? >> reporter: yeah, it really was. granbury was not the only affected area. in fact we were really hit hard up in the dallas area. the radar lit up like a christmas tree all around north texas as this was hitting last night. the national weather service out of the fort worth saying this system produced 10 different tornados. in fact a storm chaser was up in buoy, texas, about 105 miles north where i'm standing. he was videotaping the twister as it was on the ground. listen and watch what happened next. >> look at that, it hit something, dude. >> it just hit a house or something. >> it hit a house or something. >> in and out? [siren] >> reporter: spread, the worst of it is here in granbury. believe it or not, texas, oklahoma, this particular part of the country certainly not i'm mine to these powerful storms but here in the state of texas a tornado has not claim ad life since 2007.

and last night six people, for now, we know have lost their lives. the numbers still fluid, martha. martha: what a tragedy. casey, thank you. we'll check back in with you later. bill: a reasonably quiet season up until now and wow! tea party leaders in congress are holding a news conference on the irs scandal. that is michele bachmann out of minnesota. we'll let you know what they say. stay tuned for headlines. top republican senator, marco rubio. very strong words for the white house. why he believes they are at the root of all three of these scandals. he is our guest live in a matter of moments, senator rubio. >> what we have going on now a culture of hard ball politics and intimidation and unacceptable and should be chilling to every member of this body, republican and democrat. this is unacceptable behavior but this is what you get when an administration is all about politics. i automatically go there. at angie's list, you'll find reviews on everything from home repair to healthcare

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good morn. martha: are these criminal offense at irs as you see them? >> criminal offenses under existing law for supervisors. not for ground level employees. i have a bill that make the it a criminal offense as well. let's understand what we're talking about here. we're not talking about a mistake. we're talking about a deliberate abuse of power. i can't think of a more powerful agency in the u.s. government is the irs. it affects every single american. they can take away your wages. they can take away your home. it is very powerful agency. you have people in that agency that deliberately targeted conservatives, conservatives, called the tea party or liberty group or fighting to make the country a better place. it is an outrage. it is a crime. abuse of power is a crime. martha: the president said he was outraged this behavior was intolerable. he stopped short about throwing the legal book at these folks. the big question on that would be why? if it is illegal and as you point out, these laws are on the books already. if you want to make a statement as president about

how egregious you believe this is, why would you not want to do that? >> i don't know. i don't know. look, i think what he should have said yesterday in addition to being outrageous we want the justice department to fully investigate this. if this has been done deliberately and there is crime here, people will be prosecuted no matter what level of the irs they're in. look the president doesn't have clean hands in this. as i said yesterday on the floor of the senate, this organization of his, this administration has create adult turf intimidation. it is his campaign. it is this white house. it is basically an attempt to muscle anyone who is their political opponent and use whatever power they have at their disposal to intimidate people who they don't agre whether it is the associated press, whether witnesses at the state department or whether it is using the irs to go after groups that don't agree with the obama agenda this is an administration that has create adult turf intimidation through its campaign, and through the white house throughout the federal government. martha: well you know, a lot of folks out there would say that you can't make that line, you can't draw that

connection in this irs case. they would say, that you know, this really comes down to low level irs individuals in cincinnati and perhaps washington and new york and that the president clearly had an arm's length from this thing. >> well, listen we have the evidence people like mr. van der sloot, a contributor to the romney campaign, he was attacked on an obama website. they outed him, they attacked him as one of the eight bad people that were supporting mitt romney. within a few weeks he had two irs audits, not one, but two irs audits coming after him. this is an organization, the obama campaign, combined with the obama white house that has create adult turf intimidation, of hard ball tactics against their political own points. it is not just the irs. it is nlrb went off boeing for moving their facilities from washington state and south carolina. there will be other cases i will talk about in days to come. there is connection they have create adult turf intimidation where this type of behavior is rewarded, modeled and quite frankly in

my opinion encouraged. >> they're on offense on this. and as i said they want to distance themselves from this act. they made sure the acting head of the irs resigned. what are you going to do in your capacity to try to prove that there is a connection goes higher up the food chain on this issue while they're trying to make sure ifb believes there is absolutely not? what will you do to try t prove that? >> number one i will continue to talk about the culture of intimidation. how this white house and administration love to demonizes their opponents. they're not contents to debating the merits of issue. they want to create that anyone who disagrees with them is a bad person. how that culture of intimidation trickles down to federal government agencies. we'll continue to call for criminal investigations and look for a way to change the law so it is a crime, it is a crime for an irs employee to target people based on their political leaning, to leak documents to the press for political purposes. it is just wrong. it is an abuse of power. no one should stand for

that. martha: let me ask you, do you believe people in the white house or the president or people that worked on the campaign were aware of actions the irs was taking? >> i didn't say that. i don't know they were aware of it. what i know they're aware of the culture they created where that behavior is not just tolerated but potentially encouraged. when you create a culture of intimidation, when your campaign and others say if you oppose us, oppose our agenda we'll muscle you, nussle you and use any means at our disposal including government agencies. this happens when an administration becomes all about politics. this is a president campaigning all the time, even now. he has a full-time political apparatus ongoing throughout the country because it is all about politics for them. all about gaining the upper hand. all about demonizing their opponents. it is all about crushing people that stand in their way. it is old school, hard ball politics quite frankly has no place in our governing mechanisms in the federal government. that is what leads to this kind of behavior.

martha: we'll see where it goes from here. we'll see if that culture is something that is proven out as this story continues to be told. senator rubio, thank you very much. we'll talk to you soon. >> thank you. bill: quick check of the markets right now. eight minutes into the day. jobless number for the week is out, higher than expected at 360,000. we'll see how investors react to that number. trading water at the moment, off about one point, 15,273. we'll watch it through the the day today. high numbers. 15,000. martha: a lot to absorb in the markets when you look at all these stores and if you remember during the election, put your mind back a little bit into this moment when senate majority leader harry reid took to the senate floor and he said that he knew intimate details and information about mitt romney's taxes. do you remember him standing on the floor assuring everybody that he knew what was in there and that we were going to be very disturbed when we saw it. how did he get that information about mitt romney's taxes?

bill: also o.j. simpson is back in court. he was on the stand speaking on his own behalf to plead for a new trial. >> did they ever show you the references in discovery to your drinking incident? >> no. >> did they ever tell you it is a possible fact that you could use, that possibly could use a new de >> absolutely not.

martha: leaders of the tea party holding a news conference right now on the whole scandal with the irs and irs workers admitted as you know to targeting conservative groups for extra scrutiny. congresswoman michele bachmann spoke just moments ago. here is some of that. >> subsequent to the original story we had an admission from the irs that they in fact made these decisions. this is extremely troubling because the axiom is, the power to tax is the power to destroy. martha: she has said she believes this was not limited to low level workers in cincinnati. we'll continue to bring you the latest developments out of that. bill: you might remember during the 2012 presidential race senate majority leader on the floor of the senate, harry reid claimed to have knowledge about mitt romney's tax returns. remember this? >> the word's out that he hasn't paid any taxes for 10 years. let him prove that he has

paid taxes because he hasn't. we already know from one partial tax return that he gave us, he has money hidden in bermuda, cayman islands and a swiss bank account. bill: it was a stunner when it was spoken. stephen hayes, senior writer, "weekly standard", fox news contributor. i don't know, you look back at a comment like that, you wonder, did he have inside knowledge? >> well, remember, harry reid sourced that to a former business partner of mitt romney's and, i mean look, it is possible i suppose that it could have come from the irs. anything that might have seemed unlikely or impossible just weeks or months ago, certainly seems less impossible today. but i don't think harry reid necessarily is relying on sources like the irs to make wild claims. i mean harry reid makes these kind of wild claims all the time. i think it was probably a case harry reid was speculating and running his mouth off and making claims

that couldn't be substantiated. bill: i think the bigger point, steve, is this. when you're an american citizen and file your taxes with the irs they're the great unknown. >> right. bill: they have all kinds of control and power over you. the president referenced that directly last night in the statement he made 6:30 last evening. >> right. if we think that they have a great power now which certainly they do, they will have even more power of course after the implementation of obamacare when they become really one of the chief enforcement mechanisms for obamacare and all of the regulations that we're about to see. i think this is one of the reasons that this is so troubling for the white house politically is because they're putting so much faith in the irs. we had the president at ohio state just two weeks ago talking about the need to restore faith in government. they're putting faith in the irs at a time when i think faith in the irs certainly has been blown up and faith in the government more broadly is in trouble. bill: that was a speech about, don't think that there's a tyrant around

around the corner. >> the timing on that speech for the president, not great. bill: key words from the irs. here's the target. tea party, patriots, 9/12 project. government debt or spending. government taxes, education about how to make america a better place to live. you put that together, how you make a delay of groups trying to organize two or three years that spans two election cycles and makes you scratch your head and wonder what's up. >> that is absolutely extraordinary. that is the one of the first parts of this whole scandal that is so troubling the fact that they have subjected to such extra scrutiny. the o other part, the flipside of this that is so deeply troubling and reported in "usa today" yesterday is the fact that these progressive groups were basically rubberstamped. this was a one-sided operation. the idea that this wasn't idealogical or not political is no longer credible. look at the details. look what we know. bill: reince priebus was on

last night on the fox news channel. he had a very interesting take on this. he said that different states will conduct their own investigation. seemed to leave it out there to suggest who knows where that goes. but he says more people will come forward on an individual basis that were targeted for donations or returns. i guess that's the next step in the story. and where does that go? and i think you and i sitting here today, we don't know that answer, do we? >> we don't know that answer but i will say, i agree with what reince priebus said and i think it will actually go beyond the irs. i think you have had a lot of businesses that have been targeted by other federal agencies, or have been, you know, in their views harassed by other federal agencies, perhaps individuals as well, who have been reluctant to speak out for fear, a, nobody will listen, or. about, their claims won't be taken seriously. i think we'll start hearing from those people now. i think when we do they will be taken more seriously. bill: steve, thank you. that could be the next wrinkle beyond the irs. stephen hayes.

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the stand in a las vegas courtroom. the former football great testifying in a bid for a new trial. he blames bad legal representation for his conviction in the '08 case where he was convicted on kidnapping and armed robbery. there is some of the surveillance video from that night in las vegas. he was trying to get his memorabilia back from a sports dealer at a vegas casino. alicia acuna joins joigesz us live in las vegas. he had plenty to say about his former attorney. >> reporter: he absolutely did, martha. o.j. simpson told the judge that his attorney, yale galanter, led him to believe a whole team of experts and investigators had been hired to work on his case only to find out later that never happened. even though o.j. simpson says he paid galanter $500,000 for his defense. he also testified despite his cohorts getting plea deals he was never offered one. that is because, according to testimony, galanter never told him it was an option. take a listen. >> did you ever hear about a

two to five? >> no. >> did you ever hear about a 30-month to five? >> no. >> did you every hear about one count of robbery? >> no. >> reporter: yale ga landter is expected to take the stand tomorrow. martha, expect a very different version. back to you. martha: this is the first time we've seen him on the stand, right? >> reporter: that's right. o.j. simpson, you will recall, did not take the stand in his murder trial and he did not take the stand in the robbery and kidnapping case. his attorneys yesterday said he was very happy to get up there and tell his side of the story. and according to those who were inside the courtroom, he actually represented himself very well. >> we never really knew how he was going to be on a witness stand under oath. today he was as relaxed today as anybody could be on the direct and cross-examination. i mean it was amazing to watch. and i suspect that if there were people there in a jury

box, probably even better. >> reporter: we could also see o.j. on the stand once again. according to his attorneys, martha, he could be called back as a rebuttal witness to yale galanter's testimony. martha? martha: very interesting. alicia, thank you. we'll see you later. bill: we are learning more now, more details about that deadly tornado that ripped through north texas. crews are going door-to-door searching for the missing. we're told at last check, at least seven people still missing, six dead, 45 injured. we are live on the ground on that. martha: and u.s. attorney general eric holder facing some tough questions after his department seized months of phone records from the associated press reporters. the chairman of that committee, congressman bob goodlatte, joins us live in "america's newsroom.". >> why was such a broad scope approved? >> i am not familiar with the reasons why the, why the subpoena was constructed. >> the ap was amenable to

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men benghazi issue. welcome to "america's newsroom," i'm martha maccallum. bill: and i'm bill hemmer. these e-mails have not satisfied congress. republican lawmakers saying there are 25,000 documents relating to benghazi that have not been made public x they are demanding to know more. >> the pressure is building on multiple fronts, and for the first time we're beginning to get information about the white house's involvement in changing the talking points. bill: well, we're piecing this story together. peter doocy live from the north lawn of the white house. good morning. tell us how much the talking points changed before ambassador rice went on those sunday talk shows. >> reporter: the first paragraph of the original five-paragraph-long talking points do suggest that the benghazi attacks were spontaneously inspired by demonstrations in cairo, and they included a line about a warning from the cia to the embassy in egypt, but

then-deputy cia director michael morrell literally crossed that line out. and then his boss comes up, david petraeus, then cia director, and says that line was really important. here's the crossed-out part: >> r eporter: now, earlier in these documents state department spokeswoman victoria nuland raised a red flag about a line that said there were indications islamic extremists participated in the violent demonstration in libya. so she mailed. the line about knowing will come back to us at the podium. how do we know who they were, etc., so i'll need answers to those if we deploy that line. thank. and, bill, the last changes to these talking points that we've

seen took place less than 24 hours before ambassador rice hit those five sunday shows. bill: we we have heard from republicans they're not satisfied with release of these documents. what are they looking for now? >> reporter: we're hearing that a lot of republicans just think that the white house is still sitting on thousands of pages of documents. yesterday's release was only 100 pages. they think there are thousands more that would prove the white house knew right away the benghazi attackers were, in fact, terrorists. >> there was great clarity in the hours afterwards. it's only after you get all these hands and cooks in the kitchen that suddenly this morphed into something it wasn't. and what i think history will show over the course of time is when the president and secretary of state and others continued to go out, jay carney at the white house, perpetuated this story about a video, it never happened. >> reporter: and it's a busy day at white house here today again, bill. president obama's expected to take two questions at that press conference two hours from right

now. bill: we will have live coverage when that happens. thank you, peter. peter doocy live from the north lawn. martha: there are many of the e-mails that are out there, but as reporters sift through this document, what's the most important takeaway from all of it? let's ask a map who spent the better -- a man who spent the better part of last night determining what was in there. bret baier. what really stood out to you this these? >> hey, martha. what really stood out to me was what jay carney said from the white house podium, what hillary clinton said in congressional testimony and what was in this, these e-mails. it's direct contrast to numerous things that carney has said from the podium. let's take, for example, this: november 28, 2012, describing asked about the edits and what was changed in the talking points. carney says this, quote: the white house and the state department have made clear that the single adjustment that was made to those talking points by

either of those two, of those two institutions, were changing the word "consulate" to diplomatic facility because the word consulate was inaccurate. well, in many an e-mail sent at 9:15 p.m. on september 14th from an official at the cia to another official inside the agency that described the process this way, quote: the state department had major reservations with much or most of the document. we revised the document with their concerns in mind. it also goes on to show the interaction between jake sullivan, the deputy chief of staff for hillary clinton at the state department, and tommy vitour, the spokesperson for national security council, saying they'll make those edits at the deputies' meeting the following day. um, this as you follow the process, you know, a lot of people say that this e-mail thing is process, and it's a lot about semantics. but it really is how the

administration described this. we know there's a lot more to this, and we've talked about that, the security beforehand and military response during it. martha: yeah. >> but how the administration has described this part of it is detailed in these e-mails. martha: yeah. it clearly is. and it clearly, you just keep going back to the big picture, because i think there is an effort to sort of flood out some of this information and to get folks to say, well, there it is. you know, they released it, people have been after them for some time. as you clearly point out, there was an effort to make it appear that we didn't know that the security situation on the ground was very volatile and that there was quite a bit to be concerned about and that the calls from ambassador stevens for more security and more help went unanswered. that is a basic fact that continues to be substantiated by these e-mails, right? >> that's the key, that the state department didn't want congress to be hitting them over the head with the fact that in the cia had told them numerous

times that the situation was dangerous on the ground in benghazi, that they had had the warnings before. so the state department, essentially, is saying we don't want congress to have this baton to hit us over the head, not in so many words -- martha: right. >> -- with these warnings that the cia had had. i just want to point out one more thing about hillary clinton and her testimony. martha: yeah. >> she says in her testimony on capitol hill, it was an intelligence product, about the talking points. the intelligence community was the principal decider about what went into the talking points, is her testimony up on capitol hill. well, in those e-mails it is clear that her state department is very much involved. and at one point victoria nuland, her spokesperson, says that my -- the leadership in my building is not satisfied with the edits that have been made. martha: yeah. >> and this is as al-qaeda is taken out, asal sharia is taken

out. you know, who's the leadership and where does that go. martha: yeah. it's very telling, bret, that it may have started out as an intelligence product, but it ended up being an intelligence product that even petraeus, the head of the cia, said he didn't want to use because it was so toothless by the time it got to those sunday programs. so there's a lot here, bret. we know you'll be covering it extensively tonight. thank you so much. good to talk to you this morning. all right, so be sure to tune into "special report" tonight. you'll get a lot on this. another big issue is why the video wasn't mention inside my of any of this -- mentioned in any of this. check in with brett tonight, tell us what you think about it as well. send me a tweet @marthamaccallum. bill: and the question we ask is are you satisfied with what has happened to date? bret made a good point, and there's an awful lot to follow

up on. it's just rolling right now, and you get the sense we're in the early stages. martha: and you wonder, petraeus' resignation and his statement. as you showed earlier, he didn't want to stand by that statement, he thought it was worthless, it raises so many questions about what happened with him after that as well. bill: much more on this. eight minutes past the hour now. want to get to some breaking news, a powerful series of tornadoes in north texas roaring through late last night. >> it just hit another house. bill: those twisters tearing through a neighborhood an hour southwest of dallas. six dead, scores of others injured. there are live pictures, too, in a moment here of the widespread destruction. really when you get up in the air, you see how much damage has been done. that storm reducing hundreds of homes to rubble. crews this morning picking through all of that, looking for survivors.

fourteen may be missing. this morning people checking out the damage in their own homes like this woman. >> it lasted about four or five minutes, and we just waited, waited it out. and about 15 minutes, 20 minutes later my husband finally came out and saw that the window in our bedroom had been blown out and -- >> reporter: and then you wake up this morning, and you take a look at this. now, is this one of the bedrooms right heresome. >> that's my son's bedroom. >> reporter: okay. and he's actually panning around, that's where your garage used to be. >> that's our garage. the whole attic, everything that was in the attic like christmas decorations, all that stuff, is all over the yard. that -- we have a refrigerator, extra refrigerator that we had in the garage that's in the yard. bill: that's a brick home too. you can tell how strong that storm was. maria molina in the fox weather center. maria, what happened, and where is this storm going to now? >> reporter: hi, good to see you, bill. hello, everyone, that's right.

we had this strong system move eastward and produce thunderstorms across north central texas starting about 5 to 6 p.m. in north central texas and continued into the overnight hours producing that damage that you see on your screen out here. so just very devastating. and the storms are estimated to have been moving through parts of granberry and parts of sunset in texas at about 7:15 p.m. local time so during the evening hours. the sun was setting, many people could not see these tornadoes if they were on the ground which is why it's so important to heed these warnings when they are issued. differing numbers as far as how many tornadoes touched down. the storm prediction center has on their web site a preliminary report of about three tornadoes, but some offices are stating that up to ten tornadoes could have touched down and, bill, part of the reason why we could see those differing numbers is one tornado could have touched down, lifted up very briefly and then touched down again, and that would actually be two separate tornadoes. so that is something to keep in mind. damaging winds reported of up to

80 miles per hour that then themselves actually brought down power lines and tree branches causing damage as well and even large hail, baseball size, and even grapefruit side causing damage across the area as well. brand new storm system we'll be watching this weekend impacting the center of the country as we head into your saturday. anywhere from north dakota down into parts of kansas, and this will be a multiple-day event, sunday and even into monday, bill. bill: good alert there. thanks, maria, we'll be in contact. maria molina. martha: president obama says he was as surprised as the rest of us to learn about the irs targeting. >> americans are right to be angry about it, and i am angry about it. i will not tolerate this kind of behavior in any agency, but especially in the irs. martha: so could anybody in the president's inner circle have had any ideas about what was going on at these office levels? our panel is going to talk about that coming up. bill: also the attorney general, eric holder, calling one

cogr look at the ag's tone when we talk with the chairman of t they found out. martha: and terrifying moments for one mother. this is hard to even watch. look at the baby stroller, over the edge in this subway. we're going to show you what happened after that. >> i was so frightened for her. i don't know. i'm really speechless right now. >> i know if i had a baby, it wouldn't be two seconds out of my sight.

bill: okay, sports fans, david beckham is going to hang up the soccer cleats, or the football cleats depending on where you're from. he's going to retire at the end of this year. he's 38 years old. he donated all that money to charity. that's kind of cool. i mean, this guy is the face -- martha: he doesn't need soccer or football anymore. he's got so much going on. bill: he's the face of world soccer. martha: indeed, he is. bill: an era comes to an end at the end of in the season.

check it out. martha: new questions this morning about just how high the irs scandal goes. the white house claims they heard about it when the american public did. but how could the administration's right hand not have known what the left hand is doing is one of the questions it's raised. the president yesterday addressed the controversy, and here is what he said. >> it's inexcusable, and americans are right to be angry about it, and i am angry about it. i will not tolerate this kind of behavior in any agency, but be especially in the irs. given the power that it has and the reach that it has into all of our lives. martha: so how high up does this go? joined by doug schoen, former pollster for president clinton and monica crowley, syndicated radio talk show host. good morning, you guys. >> good morning. >> hi, martha. martha: let's assume for a moment because there's a lot of folks reporting this was very low level, that this is just individuals in cincinnati and perhaps washington and new york. but, monica, somebody told them

to do this. >> right. martha: so there needs to be someone who is culpable for creating, inventing this unique plan. >> yes. this is the kind of case that cries a special counsel, martha, because eric holder, the attorney general, yesterday said that he was going to instruct the fbi to investigate the irs on this matter, but you can't have one highly-politicized arm of government investigating another highly-politicized arm of government. the irs employees who are caught in the crossfire here, they've been singled out, they've been called rogue employees for doing this. very difficult in the irs to go rogue. they make it extremely difficult and for good cause. what they're now saying is, oh, no, no, don't look at us. we were only doing what our bosses told us to do. so the question is, who are the bosses in question, who ordered this, and how far up does it go? we do know that the white house lawyers were briefed on this a little while ago. did they tell the president wafs

going on? did he know or anybody else in the white house know that this was going on? this is a highly politically toxic situation, and if the president didn't know, i'd be surprised. martha: yeah. it's hard to imagine, doug, that it wasn't orchestrated at least in, at some level. be and i wonder what you think --. you've been around a long time. this was campaign season, we're talking about ohio here. is -- what do you make of it? >> well, let me give you a couple of reactions. first, there is at this point, martha -- and i emphasize at this point -- no evidence anyone outside the irs knew. there was a meeting on august 4, 2011, apparently the general counsel of the irs didn't attend, apparently the general counsel of the irs did not talk to the general counsel of the treasury department. to whom they report. that being said, to reference monica's comments, there were six democratic senators, i think in 2012, who said that there should not be abuse of the tax

laws by ideological groups to advance political agendas. could that have translated into this process? maybe. but at this point we don't know who, what or why this outrageous set of car insurances happened -- occurrences happened, and we need more investigation. martha: so so far what we've got is the firing of an active commissioner of the irs who was ready the go in a few weeks anyway. and i hate -- we've been down this road before where the president claims he's outraged about something. he was outraged about the killing in benghazi, so it does raise a question, how serious, how far will he go in rooting out what he says is abominable behavior? >> and also, martha, you know, the whole question of taking responsibility. hillary clinton claims she takes responsibility on benghazi. president claims, okay, heads are going to roll over this irs investigation. what -- martha: what does it mean? >> exactly. does it just mean, well, my bad

and now we can move on? no. it has to go keeper than that. and -- deeper than that. and to have the acting irs commissioner leave when he was scheduled to leave in two weeks anyway, falling on one sword when there is no sword is meaningless. as doug points out, we've had prominent democrats over several years -- chuck schumer, carl levin -- stirring this pot, encouraging the irs to look at conservative and tea party groups, so you can't say this is somehow a big surprise. the irs is part of the department of treasury. this is all part of the executive branch. martha: right. >> the buck has to stop somewhere. martha: all right. we'll see. and there are a lot of questions that need to continue to be asked. cowg, thank you. >> thank you. martha: month ca, thank you. bill: now there are new concerns over whether the irs can be trusted to lead the rollout of obamacare. a live report on that in a moment. martha: and the president faces mounting pressure from these scandals that have been enveloping the white house over the course of this week. people on all sides now asking

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they don't think there's any link between this young man and terrorism, but the investigation goes on. bill: irs taking heat from both sides of the aisle after admitting to targeting conservative groups. meanwhile, this scandal touching off concerns over what this means for implementing obamacare. the irs has a major hand in this. doug mckelway's live in washington. some senate democrats seemed to change their tune quickly after this story broke last week, doug. >> reporter: that's right, bill. you know, the chairman of the senate finance committee, max baucus, was one of the first be members of congress to loudly call for investigations into the irs after the scandal broke. senator jeanne shaheen just yesterday called for an audit of the irs. but in 2010 baucus asked that 501c4s be more closely examined, and in march of last year seven senate democrats, including shaheen, wrote the irs you urging it to impose strict tax on profits.

we spoke to former commissioner mark emerson about that. >> the point here is it's totally appropriate for chairman baucus to raise that issue, but anything that the service would do in terms of looking at c4s should have been evenhanded, and it wasn't. that's the shame here. >> reporter: but even as far back as 1993 when the landmark legal foundation sued the irs, it found that audit requests from members of congress shall be shredded -- had been shredded by the irs. the irs said it couldn't find key files related to possible political manipulation of audits. all this very troubling, bill. bill: there are concerns, though, that the irs' planned expansion to accommodate its new responsibility for the affordable care act could be in danger. how is this working, doug? >> reporter: that's right. by the end of this year, the irs will be hiring 15,000 new agents to collect health information in accordance with provisions of

the affordable care act. so already owns with americans' financial information, it will also be armed with americans' health information. we spoke to one tea party member who gave up her own quest to form a 501c4 after the irs threaten today examine her private e-mails, twitter accounts. she's deeply concerned about this expansion of irs power. >> my concern is four years after the irs has expanded to police the nation's health care law, how many stories of abuse are going to emerge from this and really, what will be the impact? >> reporter: representative randy forbes, a republican from virginia, and others are introducing a bill to ban the irs from hiring those additional 15,000 employees to help implement the health care law. bill: doug mckelway in washington on that. thanks. 27 past, here's martha. martha: attorney general eric holder going at it with familiar faces in congress. watch some of this from yesterday. >> i'm sure there must have been a good reason why only to and from parts -- >> yes. you didn't want us to see the

details. mr. attorney general -- >> no. [inaudible conversations] no, i'm not going to stop talking now. martha: yeah. it went on from there. it was very feisty. listen. all right. so some lawmakers are happy with the outcome of yesterday's hearing. we're going to hear from the house judiciary committee chairman about that heated expassenger. some were un-- exchange. coming up next. bill: also, does jodi arias deserve to die? the jury is back in court this morning to decide that. >> i believe death is the ultimate freedom, so i'd rather just have my freedom as soon as i can get it. the great outdoors... ...and a great deal. thanks to dad. nope eeeeh... oh, guys let's leave the deals to hotels.com. ooh that one! nice. got it! oh my gosh this is so cool. awesome! perfect! dad to the rescue. the perfect place is on sale now. up to 30% off.

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bill: it was rowdy at times when eric holder got into it with congressman darrell issa at one point. the two have tangled during the fast and furious investigation. right out of the exchange you're about to hear we'll be joined by the chair of that committee, republican bob goodlatte. first, though, have a listen here. >> i will certainly look at the request. it's not something that i have personally been involved in, but i'll look at the request and try to be as responsive as we can. i'm sure there must have been a good reason why only to and from parts were -- the yes. you didn't want us to see the details. mr. attorney general -- there no. >> in knowing to and from -- >> no, i'm not going to stop talking now. >> mr.-- >> characterize something as something -- >> purchase, would you inform the witness as to the rules of this committee? >> it inappropriate and is too consistent in which the way you

conduct yourself as a member of congress. it's unacceptable, and it's shameful. bill: with me now is bob goodlatte, the virginia republican who chairs that committee. sir, good morning to you. of we just heard a little clip from yesterday. what did you think of the tone of the attorney general? >> bill, the tone of the attorney general was fine for a lot of it. the frustration of members were, and you've probably seen some of the youtube clips of him saying i don't know in a whole variety of ways. but then there were a few points where members were getting -- [inaudible] the attorney general, i think, reacted very strongly and, quite frankly, not constructively because there are legitimate questions regarding thomas perez, his conduct of the civil rights division of the justice department, and in particular the secret deal that he orchestrated with the city of

st. paul, minnesota, to have them back away from a case thate united states supreme court in exchange for two whistleblower cases against the city of st. paul, minnesota, being dropped and potentially costing the taxpayers of the united states up to $200 million. that's a pretty serious allegation. bill: that certainly is, yeah, but that was one of the many issues yesterday. i'm just curious what you accomplished from this hearing. how would you answer that? >> i think what we accomplished is, first of all, we did our due diligence in conducting oversight over the justice department and the attorney general. and we had in some instances, particularly with regard to the irs case, with regard to the investigation of tea a parties and other conservative organizations and other organizations as well pretty considerable bipartisan concern about that. same thing with the ap story and the overbroad, apparently overbroad subpoena that was issued where the attorney

general had recused himself. and we did not get to the bottom of that. we did not find out why he recused himself. and we will have to pursue that issue further. and we will very aggressively because protecting the first amendment with regard to both of these matters is very, very important and a great responsibility for the congress. bill: and on that point, now, he says he recused himself, so he can't answer the questions. so how do you get answers if he won't take you there? >> well, first of all, we're going to have to pursue the deputy attorney general of the united states who stepped in in his place and made these decisions. and we're also going to continue to ask why in so many of these matters we do not see accountability. now, with regard to the irs, you know, quite frankly, i was pleased to see last night that the new secretary of treasury did take it upon himself to secure the resignation of the acting director of the irs. but when it

bill: but he was stepping, he was stepping down anyway, wasn't he, in a couple weeks. >> he's going to be replaced anyway. and when you get to the justice department whether it's fast and furious, whether it's some of these new matters, people have an ongoing concern that when troubling mistakes are made, to one is held accountable. and york u.n. -- you know, it's important to hold them accountable even if it's a lower-level person because that person is not likely to remain silent if, indeed, someone higher up instructed them to answer questions the way they answered them or make the actions that they made. so it's really important to see in any administration -- doesn't matter whether it's the obama administration or another one -- when there are screw-ups, people need to be held accountable. in news organizations, in political organizations, when people make mistakes, there are consequences. and we see on a fairly steady

basis people have having to step aside because they made bad decisions or said things that were inappropriate. but it doesn't seem to be the rule in this administration and in other administrations as well. bill: just a couple of seconds left here. you mentioned the ap story. do you think department of justice was looking for a leak on that security story? or was it looking for something else? >> well, we don't know yet. and we need to dig into that very, very closely. but to me, even if they were exercising their responsibility to look for leaks, you know, you can't be overbroad. there are specific statutory requirements for how you issue a subpoena against a news media organization, and those apparently were not followed in this case. why was it done in secret? why was it not done with notice to the news media? why was not their cooperation sought, and why was it so broad, encompassing 20 relaters over a 60-day period of time? there is lots to answer for here, and we will continue to

pursue this because we have a constitutional responsibility to pursue it. bill: all good questions. sir, thank you for your time. congressman bob goodlatte, the chairman of that committee. sir, thank you for coming on with us today. >> thank you, bill. ♪ ♪ martha: we have a major update in the jodi arias murder case as jurors determine whether she, the quote, exceptionally cruel nature of the attack in which she stabbed, shot and nearly decapitated her ex-boyfriend has made her eligible for the death penalty. dan springer's live in our seattle newsroom on this. did it take the jury long to determine that this was an especially cruel act, dan? >> reporter: yeah, martha, not at all. this jury that took nearly three days to convict jodi arias of first-degree, premeditated murder took less than three hours to determine that what she did was so cruel that she should be eligible for the death penalty. prosecutor juan martinez once again showed some of the gruesome crime scene photographs. iowa whereas stabbed travis

alexander 27 times, slit his throat all the way across and can shot him once in the head. the jury agreed that martinez that she knew exactly what she was doing and intended to inflict as much pain as possible. >> the last thing that mr. alexander felt as he laid there, as he could see up there was this knife, this woman and this bread coming towards him -- this blade coming towards him. and it was only death that relieved that pain. >> reporter: and the whole hearing yesterday lasted about five hours, martha. martha: so what happens today, dan? >> reporter: now the trial moves to the mitigation phase of sentencing. this is expected to be about a two-week-long mini trial in which the prosecution argues that arias should be put to death and the defense will argue that her life should be spared. interestingly, in that interview arias did right after her conviction, she not only said she would prefer death to life in prison, she also said she didn't have a horrible childhood

or any other problems that are often used as mitigating factors. alexander's family will finally get their chance to speak. the defense has made a motion that victim impact statements be put on videotape instead of live in the courtroom. judge sherry stephens has yet to rule on that. court resumes in just a few hours. the same jury that decided she was guilty of first-degree murder will also decide life or death. back to you, martha. martha: i can just imagine what his family has to say. thank you, dan. bill: columnests claiming a trio of controversies enveloping the white house proves an inquestion tent administration. martha: and a terrifying moment as a stroller with a 14-month-old baby inside falls right onto the tracks. wait until you hear what happened after this. we'll be right back in "america's newsroom."

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bill: about 16 minutes before the hour. earlier today we were talking about the irs story and recalled a moment that senate majority leader harry reid made during the 2012 election when he said mitt romney did not pay taxes. if you recall, senator reid said a business partner of mitt romney's informed him, rather, of that story. from the election. ♪ ♪ martha: well, it has been quite a week for the obama administration. they've had three major scandals that they have been dealing with. the stream of new developments

that raises questions about what this cloud of controversy could say about the administration as a whole in terms of how they operate. michael goodwin sums it up with his column today in the new york post. he writes: martha: big charge. michael goodwin, fox news contributor as well. that's a serious charge, corrupt and incompetent. >> look, martha, i think that any president who has the succession of scandals, i mean, any one would be enough to call into question the presidency. but to have a series of them all at once here in the fifth year of his presidency tells me that these are not isolated, that fundamentally they are connected, they all go back to the white house, they all go back to the president himself

and his closest aides. so after nearly, in his fifth year in the white house, his policies, his people, they're in charge. they're running everything. and they're doing a terrible job of it. so you think of all of the scandals of the last couple of years whether it's solyndra or the unions getting favored treatment everywhere, it's all about the president, it's all about the presidency. and you see that they can't really run the government. and when they do run it, like with the irs, it's corrupt. and so i think that the combination is really deadly for the country at home and abroad. martha: now, they would take issue with your claim that it all goes back to them. and they really went on offense yesterday. and i thought it was interesting that you heard from david axlerod and robert gibbs saying you need to get those e-mails out there, they're almost sort of shouting from the mountaintop giving advice, but they declassified 94 pages of e-mails in the benghazi issue, fired the temporary head of the irs, and the ap answer is that holder

knew nothing, that that was handled by the deputy and he knew nothing. now, those excuses and those explanations will hold water with a lot of people out there. they'll say, see, the white house had nothing to do with this. >> right. but i think that it's -- the problem they have is with a couple of days of messaging and sort of superficial actions, you know, little heads will roll, the old line is, i don't think that really goes to the heart of the argument which is that you've had five years now. these are your people. these are your policies. to say that somehow you're not responsible for them defies the very idea of what it means to be president. these are people you put there. martha: here's what i don't get, you know, he's a second-term president. >> right. martha: he could, you know, he could be the big person. he could say this stinks, you're all fired, this doesn't happen in america. he has every ability in his position right now to take the high road. >> right. martha: why not? why not do it? >> i don't think he has it in

him. he's never taken the high road on anything. he's taken the aloof road but never the high road. he's never really worked with anybody in washington. he doesn't like anybody in washington, democrat or republicans -- martha: you say he finds himself more and more isolated all the time. >> he's never built the bridges of personal relationships. whether it's good or bad, that is how the world works, you know? and so when you don't build those friendships when you have the opportunity, now when you need them, known trusts you. nobody believes in you. and there's nobody trying to help him because he's never played ball with and i don't mean that in a negative sense, just that he has not governed. he's governed as though it's beneath him, and now it's coming back to bite him. martha: i want to close with a quick thought on this. i thought this was the most chilling sentence in your entire piece. the idea that ordinary citizens hold the power has no meaning when the political class circles the wagons and the press looks the other way. that's not america. >> that's right. and when you saw eric holder

yesterday saying i don't know, i wasn't part of this, who do we hold accountable in the justice department for the ap snooping if the attorney general says i don't know anything about it? i mean, so this idea that nobody in the top rungs of our government is responsible for benghazi, the ap, the irs? well, what is the point of democracy if they're not responsible? i mean, they were elected to run these agencies. if they -- if agencies are not run well, who do we hold -- martha: consequences. there's a lack of consequences. >> right. this is not bureaucrats. martha: michael good wic, as always, thanks. bill: a baby stroller rolling off the platform, and the next train is less than a minute away.

martha: march moments of terror

on the tracks at a commuter train station in philadelphia. take a look at this. this is every mom's nightmare. there goes the baby stroller right over the edge. i don't know how this happened. 14-month-old baby strapped inside with the train less than a minute away. mom quickly jumps down. she grabs the little girl and hands her up, and then somebody helps her out. the baby just had a few cuts and bruises and is going to be okay. oh, boy. bill: took a fall. martha: stand back, mom, way back from the tracks. bill in the new economy companies are always looking for ways to be more 23eurb and cut costs. one way they're doing it now is by reaching for the cloud. jonathan serrie is live from atlanta. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. as more companies ship their computing from on-site servers to the cloud, a new business model has emerged to help them, and that's creating new jobs right here in the u.s.. navigating new technology can be difficult, so as more businesses transition to the cloud,

web-based computing, a new type of business has emerged to guide them. >> we help our clients adopt, manage and enhance cloud applications for their business. >> reporter: services that are in high demand fueling exponential growth at atlanta-based cloud sherpas. >> we have roughly 600 employees, today we will be growing just above a thousand by the end of the year with over 900 jobs in the next 12-18 months. >> reporter: creating new jobs in cities across the u.s., the company is on the leading edge of a new business model called cloud services brokerage. >> we did a back of the paper bag estimate last year, and we came up with a number that ranged between 90 and 100 billion u.s. dollars will be spent on cloud brokerage over the next two years. >> reporter: and plumber says that will translate into even more jobs right here in the u.s. bill? bill: what does this mean for people in traditional i'm sorry t.d.s, jonathan? >> well, daryl plumber who you

saw just there says cloud computing in general is going to create a net gain of jobs, so his advice to people in traditional i.t. departments is don't worry whether you'll have a job in ten years, but think about how that job will change over ten years and how you can adapt. bill? bill: we will. thank you, jonathan. jonathan serrie in atlanta. martha? martha: one political expert is predicting a major shift in the oval office mood as the president deals with these controversies; the irs, the doj, of course, and the ap issues, and all the questions about benghazi. carl roe takes on this controversy three minutes away. we'll be right back -- karl rove. ♪

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for jenna lee. >> i'm gregg jarrett in for jon scott we're awaiting a press conference. after days of pressure the white house is releasing 100 pages of e-mails and notes on the attack, in an attempt to quell the outrage over the revision of talking points in the days after the attack. these new e-mails. painting somewhat of a different picture than what was portrayed before. here's what press secretary jay carney said last week. >> what remains the case is that the intelligence community, cia, drafted these talking points and redrafted these talking points. the fact that there are inputs is always the case in a process like this. but the only edits made by anyone here at the white house were stylistic and nonsubstantive.