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thank you at home for being with us. let not your heart be troubled. the news continues and we will see you soon on "hannity." thanks for being with us. from america's news headquarters i'm marianne rafferty. a federal judge ruling arizona sheriff joe arpaeo's office used racial profiling during immigration patrol. a small group of latinos filed a lawsuit claiming the maricopa county deputies pulled over drivers just to check immigration status and that they often dragged out the traffic spots. so far no response from america's toughest sheriff. a day after a jury couldn't agree on a punishment for convicted murderer jodi arias, the jury foreman explained the entire panel agreed the murder was brutal but they also took into account her lack of criminal his tore arery and
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previous violent behavior. the new jury will be selected to decide whether arias will get life in prison or the death penalty. i'm marianne rafferty. "on the record" starts now. we have been lied to at every single turn on every one of the scandals and now they are all coming together in a major train wreck and it is catching up with them. >> obama's hands are on every lever. the irs scandal, benghazi, it is obama back to front, top to bottom. >> what they want to do, is try to drag, washington, into a swamp of partisan fishing expeditions and trumped up hearings. >> can you say categorically that nobody in the white house or on the political team had any knowledge or was involved
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in any way by targeting of tea party groups by the irs? >> yes, he. >> i didn't know anything about the ig report before it had been leaked through the press. >> why did you mislead congress on the american people on this? >> i did not mislead congress or the american people. >> could be the day we get answers. a house committee holding a hearing on what went wrong in benghazi as we hear from whistle blowers who say more could have been done to save american lives. >> when ambassador stevens talked to you minutes before he died as a dying declaration what presizely did he say to you? >> he said "greg, we are under attack." at 3:00 a.m. i received a call from the prime minister of libya. i think it is the saddest phone call i have ever had in my life. he told me that ambassador see it he venicestevens had passed. >> greta: more growing outrage over the justice department
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secret seizure of associated press phone records. >> the obama regime is spying on a.p. reporters and who knows who else. >> this was a serious leak. an overbroad and secretive taking of a massive amount of telephone records. they are not going to be intimidated but the sources may well be intimidated. >> greta: is special edition of "on the record." tonight the second term scandals hitting the obama white house from the building turmoil over benghazi to the justice department assault on the media. first the giant scandal causing outrage across the nation and across the political aisle, the irs. >> the irs has admitted to targeting conservatives. >> now, my question is isn't about who is going to have to resign. my question is who is going to jail over this scandal? >> there is no single agency in government that has the power that the irs has. they can destroy people.
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>> let me be clear. the president believes the activity here, the actions here were wrong and inappropriate. he wants to get to the bottom of this and people held responsible. >> we provided horrible customer service. i will admit that. we did. horrible customer service. >> you are arguing today that the irs is not -- but the subtext is you are saying look we are just income patent. >> we were not politically motivated in targeting conservative groups. >> i have not done anything wrong. i have not broken any laws. i have not violated any irs rules and regulations and i have not provided false information to this or any other congressional community. after careful consideration i decided to follow my counsel's advice and not testify for answer any of the questions today. >> we just received word the
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chairman of the committee issa is now saying that after consulting with counsel he believed she waived her right by making a statement and says she is still under subpoena and he will recall h her to testify. >> the big headline, lois lerner placed on administrative leave with pay. >> greta: former senior advisor patresident reagan bat buchanan joins us. the irs scandal grabbing a lot of attention this week and last week. going to go away quickly or a big problem for the white house? >> it is not going to go away quickly and the president has a big problem on his hands. this began three years ago and became known in the irs two and a half years ago, the questions that are lying on the table, greta, are tremendous. who ordered this in the irs? who knew about it in the irs? who knew about it at the treasury department?
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did geithner know this was going on. when they reported it to the president of the united states or the white house, white house counsel she did not even inform the president of the united states for weeks that she knew about this and that that was coming. this is in explicable. >> greta: this has been going on for three years as you know and does some of the blame rightfully go to congress who for three years had wind of it, power of oversight and even subpoena power and a lot of people suffer in the the interim. i don't know what the white house did know or not know. certainly h the irs knew and you have congress that was wind of it. why didn't they move this faster? >> this also is inexplicable. this is going on for three years. people in cincinnati knew all about it. the superiors knew about it. the whole edict they were given was expanded by the irs. this is all known inside the irs by any number of people. i will say this for the congress they did ask questions after they got letters saying
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the tea party is being harassed they asked quids. questions. i don't know if they were lied to but they were misled. they were told in effect or came to believe in effect there was no targeting going on. i don't know if they were deceived. whether these were directly lies i don't know. this is astonishing this could go on for two and a half or three years and not be known in the city. >> greta: the culture in the irs was such, enough people involved that no one put on the break in the irs and it was okay to target and drag out the applications. >> this is a rogue agency. it is what it looks like to me. you're right. i don't know who ordered it. suppose it was a small group in the tax exempt section in cincinnati. more people are going to know, more and more are going to know then the orders go down expand this to people interested in the bill of rights and constitution and making a
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better america. people have to know this all throughout the agency and the idea that this doesn't move up through the bureaucracy and they don't know it in washington where that is where the tax exempt department is. >> greta: one suggestion that lois lerner knew in 2011 and it was still going on in 2012 and she, of course, was head of the department. >> again, this was apparently known all through the agency and through the treasury i think by may of 2012 before the election, in other words. maybe it was august. but before the election. but they had to know if something like this hits this is going to be an incredible distraction and going to be an incredible problem for the presidential candidate. and how this thing did not break really escapes me. let me talk briefly about the president because i disagree with some of my conservative colleagues. i think this shows a sense of indifference.
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a sense that he is out of touch. that he is not in command and control. take mr. holder, the attorney general, he said this was one of the worst national security leaks i have ever seen. it is first, second or third in that category and that is why we ordered the seizure of all of the records for two months of the associated press in washington, d.c. it is that serious and he doesn't even give the president a head's up? >> greta: pat, we are still trying to get more information and more facts. thank you. >> thank you. >> greta: every day we are hearing from more and more groups who say they were targeted by the irs. one of them the richmond tea party. executive director larry nordvig says the group was subjected to a grueling inqui is sition. >> absolutely we were targeted.
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feels creep to about on a list especially of the government. >> greta: tonight he says that it did happen and admits it. does that make you feel any better. >> it doesn't make us feel better but makes us feel vindicated. year or year and a half ago we were saying we felt this was a problem and i guess we get to say i told you so but that doesn't make us feel any better. >> greta: you got a big questionnaire. what happened. you applied for tax exempt status and what happened? >> we applied for tax exempt status in december of '09. we did not the receive that until july of 20123. 2012. just last summer. >> greta: two and a half years to get a question area? what happened in between then? >> a year to get the first 17 questions and those were are fairly benign. the organization i was speaking for thought it would be six months to a year to get the tax
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exempt status. the first red flag was it began to take significantly longer and we got hit with another set of questions, a total of 55. each had multiple parts, bullets in it and those questions were way outside the bounds of what the government should be requesting. >> greta: like what? >> store example, they wanted to know -- for scam, the exampy wanted information about the members and who they associate with. they wanted to know the donors names and whether they going to run or office or have run for office. the whole point around getting a 501 c 4 tax exempt is so that donors can donate anonymously. a lot of people don't want their names associated with an o when they give money. people were afraid to give money and that directly impacts our operation.
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>> greta: for the lawyers not familiar tell me what z street is? >> an educational organization whose mission is to provide accurate information about israel in particular and the middle east in general. >> greta: in 2009 the organization filed for 501 c 3 which is a charitable status that would allow donations to made to the organization to be dehe ducted like any organization that has that status. >> that's right. >> what happened to your 2009 application? have you gotten the charitable deduction status yet? >> we didn't. the irs put our application on hold. >> greta: why? >> because we sued the irs for what we believed was viewpoint discrimination. >> greta: what was the viewpoint discrimination that you believe the irs has against your organization? >> well, let me tell you what happened. after we filed in late december of '09, by that summer we hadn't yet received word about whether we were going forward. the agent assigned to the file
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told our lawyer that the reason it was being held up was because the irs had to give special scrutiny to organizations connected to israel. the irs agent also told our lawyer that some of those organizations were going to be sent to a special unit in washington to determine whether the organization's positions contradict those of the administration. at that point, we knew that is classic view youpoint discrimination and we knew we had to bring a.b. akron -- an action so we brought a lawsuit against the irs. z street versus the commissioner of the irs. after we filed our lawsuit the irs began having several different positions on why it was taking so long. one of which was because terrorism happens in israel. therefore they had to look into our organization because they
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thought we might fund terrorism. we are fuhrl purely educationa. we funded ourselves. >> greta: you are part of the cincinnati tea party group is, that, correct? >> that's correct. i work with the cincinnati tea party. >> greta: and another group which w. which you had no connection with seeking tax exempt status. is that right? >> that's correct. >> greta: how did you learn your name got put in a questionnaire to them? >> when they received the irs letter, they being the liberty town high pressure teship tea e board members called to tell me they got the letter but called to tell me question no. 26 that asked describe your relationship with justin binik-thomas. >> greta: after you got that call and i have a copy of the questionnaire here. i read it with my own eyes. did you contact the irs?
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>> i did. i reached out to the irs through my congress woman which was jean schmidt at the time and she helped to reach out to the irs on my behalf. >> greta: and what did the irs say? >> they denyd that they asked about individuals within the groups despite having a copy of the letter included in the query. >> greta: and straight ahead, secret seizures. the president of the associated press calling the justice department seizing of phone records unconstitutional. not just the ap. the doj targeting fox news, too. where are the other 25,000-pages? the latest on that scandal, coming up. both tylenol and bayer back & body
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20 associated press reporters and editors over a two month period. >> an overbroad and secretive taking of a massive amount of telephone records from ap. >> other than press reports we no knowledge of any attempt by the justice department to seek phone records of the associated press. we are not involved at the white house in any decisions made in connection with ongoing criminal investigations. >> i don't know what happened there about with interaction between the ap and the justice department. i was recused from the case. >> the the feds keeping tabs on another journalist. the targeted journalist is fox news chief washington correspondent james rosen. >> seized the phone records and went through and read his e-mails and tracked his comings and goings inside the state department. does the president approve of that kind of action by the justice department against a reporter? >> i will refer you to what the
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president said in response to a question about another matter along these lines and that is that he is a strong defender of the first amendment. and a firm believer of the need for the press to be able to conduct investigative reporting and facilitate a free flow of information. >> new information is coming out about the case involving james rosen and because the legal filing made in the case by the u.s. attorney's office what we found is they weren't only going after records for him personally but because we have the area code and exchanges several important fox lines and lines that feed into the white house and several reporters and producers cell phones as well. >> greta: and we spoke with the lawyer representing the associated press in this case. david schulz. >> what provoked the government to finally tell the ap it had seized the records? >> the government told ap that it had seized the records because it is required to do so under the department of justice
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guidelines. if they seize records without prior notice they are obligated to let the press know in no more than 9 90 days and that is what happened here. >> greta: when were the records seized? >> i'm sorry? >> greta: when were the records seized? >> we don't know. it basically said we are telling you pursuant to the regulations we seized the records of these 20 phone lines. we don't know. sometime in the last 90 days because they were required to give notice within 90 days. whether it was three months ago or last month we don't know. >> greta: do you have any sense of whether it was to seek information or intimidate? any sort of almost gut sense as to what this was? >> well, you know, i take the department of justice at its word when it says this was part of a leaks investigation that they have done a number of other steps and that they felt that this was fe needed but that really isn't sufficient. there is always going to be the
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conflict between the government's right to keep its secrets and the ability of the press to have a zone of protection to talk with sources and know the activity tion are independent of government monitoring. that line is going to exist and somebody has to draw the boundaries. there were regulations put in place after the watergate scandal to help mediate that determination. and there are a dum number of restrictions put on the department of justice that seem to have been violated or ignored here in a rather dramatic way. >> greta: seems they would have given you notice in advance if they thought you would be cooperative and they didn't because what are you going to do, destroy the records? i don't know how you get rid of the phone records. but there is a reason they didn't tell you. >> there were two fundamental problems spelled out in the letter to the department of justice. one was the massive nature of what was done. there were 20 phone lines in a number of bureaus that involve
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phones that probably 100 or so reporters had access to. all of the outgoing calls on everything they dealt with. it was really giving the government a road map. that is the sort of information the government has to right to have. that was number one was the breadth and the point you are raising the guidelines put in place in the 1970s say the press is supposed to be given advance notice when the government needs information critical to a criminal investigation and allowed to negotiate to be sure to protect their own interests. that didn't happen here. >> greta: first the the associated press and then fox news. what is going on with the justice department targeting journalists? washington examiner chief political correspondent byron york joins us. are they improperly targeting journalists or are we a tad bit oversensitive at fox news because it is us? >> i think they are improperly targeting journallities.
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we heard cases where a journalist went to jail in a leaked case and they refused to reveal confidential sources and that has always been a tension between the justice department and journalists and usually turned out to be nothing. usually leak investigations went no where. this is a whole new dimension in which the justice department at least in the james rosen case suggested that the reporter was a criminal. >> actually said that in the affidavit. said he was part of a criminal conspiracy. >> coconspirator and might even be a flight risk. the fox news chief correspondent being a flight risk. this appears to be a new step for the justice department. the other thing is we now know that they seized the phone records from the ap. not just a fox thing. seized phone records from ap and fox as well. i tell you, you ask any washington journalist if they believe these are the only times they have ever done this i think people are wanting to see what else has been done by this justice department.
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>> greta: the thing that i think is most telling under the department of justice guide lipes in the '70s, they are supposed to give notice to the news organizations before they subpoena them. the reason they didn't here is they claim they could be destroyed. james rosen doesn't even have the records. you would have to believe the phone company who is not a target wanted to destroy the records or might in order to do this. they blew up they're own guidelines and for what purposes. >> they did go to the phone companies and went to google to look at the james rosen's e-mails. they cooperate with the justice department because they don't have a whole lot of choice. the point is the target of this, if you will, the reporter doesn't have any control of this and justice department guidelines are exactly right. the immediate organization if they are under some investigation in a leak
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investigation the justice department comes to them and they negotiate over what is needed. maybe the justice department wants everything from the whole office and the media organization says that is too broad, let's talk about this. allowedfox nor ap was' loued to do that because the justice department did it all in secret. >> greta: byron, thank you. straight ahead, many republicans insisting the benghazi coverup is not over yet. congressman jason chaffetz wants to know what was going on on the ground. congressman ch chaffetz, next. (announcer) designed for your most precious cargo. (girl) what?
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over. more than eight months after the terror attack many lawmakers insist the white house coverup continues. >> the real question he here is where was the president of united states when benghazi burned? when the u.s. ambassador to the united states was assassinated? >> was he in the situation room? yes. >> was kept up to date throughout the day. >> do you not know whether he was -- >> he don't know what room the president was in on that night and that is a largely irreelection vapt fact. >> on september 11th, 2012 four americans were murdered by terrorists. these witnesses deserve to be heard on the benghazi attacks, the flaws in the accountability review board methodology, process and conclusions. >> do you solemnly swear the testimony you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? >> the military was told to stand down. not engage in a fight. these are the kind of people
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willing to engage. where did that message come down? where did the standdown order come from? >> i believe it came from either africa or south africa. >> fast forward, mr. hicks to the sunday talk shows and ambassador susan rice. she blamed the attack on a individual joe. in fact, she did it five different times. what was your reaction to that? >> i was stunned. my jaw yo dropped and i was embarrassed. >> any one listening to the hearing today if they don't have questions there was some comment made about well there was a few people in libya that had a problem h with the you tube video but the overwhelming evidence is this was a terrorist attack. everybody knew it but you yet someone higher up decided to run with the story and facade and kept it for a long time. >> when ambassador stevens talked to you perhaps minutes before he died as a dying declaration what presizely did he say to you? >> he said greg, we are under
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attack. >> the fact is we had four dead americans. it was because of a protest or guys out for a walk one night who decided they would go kill some americans? what difference at this point does it make? >> it makes a difference in who is responsible for these men's death. >> greta: these are the benghazi e-mails. more than 100 released by the white house. >> let's put it in perspective, bob. nearly 25,000 documents they haven't released. release those. >> greta: and congressman jason chaffetz joins us. nice to see you, sir. >> thanks, greta. >> greta: benghazi a coverup or sloppy government and how do you tell the difference. >> just over 8 months away and i think it is clear they are covering up a lot of inadequacies. still have major questions that haven't been answered. terrorists that have not been captured or killed. we have four dead american is. more questions than ever and an administration that will not
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live up to the president's promise of openness and transparency. are ha is not happening and leads me to the conclusion this is, indeed, a coverup. >> greta: why would they want to cover up this? embarrassed or a more sinister reason? >> that is why congress is looking at it. in the united states of america we are open and transparent and is self-critical to learn from the mistakes and make sure it never happens again. i hope the moity expectations is not more sinister but it is often the lack of can dorland beginning that leads to the problems down the road. >> greta: how many americans on the ground at benghazi on september 11th? >> more than two dozen. the congress and the american people have never heard from somebody on the ground in benghazi. we heard from the chief of mission gregory hicks with amazing testimony he congress. but he was in tripoli. we have not heard from anybody on the ground in benghazi.
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>> greta: we not? >> this is one of the great mystery. if you are going to be open and transparent, make them available to the congress. they seem to be suppressed. certainly the state department will not allow us access to those and access to the e-mails and information and document its that we have. think witabout it. they released 100 documents but you there is over 25,000 that we know of. >> greta: the fbi went and spoke to some of the survivors. have you seen copies of notes from conversations that the fbi had or anything about the conversations because that is a short time after benghazi happened. >> we still do not have from the various you different agencies including the state department the transscripts and information. we have been asking for let us have the details of the accountability review board. let us see the notes from those and talk to the same people. >> greta: what is the answer when you say can i have that?
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>> the answer is just a no. >> greta: got to have a reason. it's mine. in it's ours? can't have it? >> we issued the first subpoena out o the ground the door to ambassador pickering. we will do it the hard way. there is an easy way if the president will do what they simply said they will do. it is just not happening. >> greta: they don't give a reason why? they he just say no? >> these are unclassified documents. >> greta: even the classified there is some question whether it should be classified but that is a whole another story. the recently released e-mails shedding some light on the talking point changes. do they tell the complete story? and what about the video. how did that become such a big part of the obama administration story. the weekly standard's steve hayes joins us. nice to see you, steve. >> hi, greta. >> greta: any explanation as to
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why it became part of the talking points? >> if you look at the subject lines of the deputy's committee meeting on saturday morning the day before susan rice went on the sunday shows and sold the stories about the video. the subject line was movies, protests and violence. >> greta: but nothing in the body of the e-mails themselves? >> nothing in the bodies of the e-mails themselves and could be the case that that subject line was referring to the movie more broadly, to violence more broadly around the region, not just necessarily in benghazi. >> greta: we got about 100 e-mails but seemed to be -- there are gaps in times. i don't know if nobody was e-mailing that particular time. 14thseem to start the 4 of september and the incident happened on the 11th of september. hi idea the e-mail -- any idea the e-mails between the 11th and the 14th? maybe there aren't any. >> we should see the e-mails. if the administration is chitted to being transparent
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they should value voters no problems providing the e-mails. we have seen an e-mail from the acting assistant secretary of state who said on september 12 ansar al-sheridaia was behind the attacks. what was the information that led to the conclusion? there are many questions from the look at these 100 e-mails that sugar not only interesting e-mails -- suggest not only interesting e-mails before that but also a lot of offline conversations people may have had. there was an e-mail of david petraeus then cis director in which he complains about what was included in the talk points. that he wouldn't use them if they could. he said they cut this out and they didn't use that either. there is no sign in the e-mail what the either was referring to. >> greta: as recent in november was the first request for the e-mails and took about six months for them to produce e-mails.
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the white house hand picks which they want us to see. when there are huge gaps in time i'm curious where are the rest of them. the gaps and i suppose they will say they are classified but the ones they released they claimed were classified to begin with. that was hardly classified material. >> the vast majority of the e-mails are not classified. things that the white house could provide if they wanted to. beyond the e-mails, remember, conversations that tookversats place. phone calls that presumably took place between senior officials at the state department and at the white house and the cia that are referred to again in the e-mails that we have already seen. what happened in those conversations and why won't they share that with us? >> greta: if they want this, they have all of the materials and they cannent the mystery by just giving us everything and not making us pound so hard to get it. >> i'm with you. >> greta: how is the administration doing? dana p perino and joe trippi he
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>> greta: three scandals all breaking out in a week. the obama administration playing a constant game of dodge. white house press secretary jay carney feeling the heat at the daily briefings. how did he do? dana was press secretary for president george w. bush and joins us. nice to see you, dana. >> nice to be here, thanks. >> greta: how is the press secretary handling this? >> hard for me to know because i don't have all of the information and nobody seems to the have all of the information. i know that one of the things that i always tried to do is just to say that whenever you think that you are in a position to criticize or comment on the press secretary perform are mans yoance you net is actually behind the scenes and this is the case in this regard. i think that he has been at risk of his own credibility being eroded but it is not
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about him. the press secretary job is not about the press secretary ever. it doesn't matter, it is only about the credibility piece. >> greta: except to the extent he doesn't have credibility for the white house it is credibility that reflects on him. the question is he in the loop and what kind of information is he telling. should he be in the loop. should he get the information so he doesn't have to come out with different versions as each day passs. >> i presume he is in the loop. maybe we will find out in the future years to what extent. it does seem very odd to me some of their strategy to suggest to the president that it was a good idea for him not to know anything when the president has top secret clearance. presumably he with keep a secret. a constitutional lawyer. presumably he can understand the law. i cannot imagine scenario where i have would advocated or ease been list -- or even been
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listened to if i had been told something should not be told to the president. especially the irs piece. that is one of the most egrigious examples and when it comes to the investigation of reporters. seems they only got outraged when they found out the press coverage would be bad for them. they weren't outraged before. for the white house, the credibility question he goes to that piece. which is if you have an abuse of authority and you don't recognize it beforehand and don't get in front of it and you are caught flat footed you are going to have problems digging out of what i call the credibility deficit. republicans smart a credibility deficit and have to work up to neutral. the press corps has basically allowed the government to be operating inside a moon bounce for the last couple of years and protected from all sorts of sharp elbows and how to know
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are finding out what it is like to deal with a bureaucracy run amuk or possibly political interferences into all of the situations. >> greta: dana, thank you. and straight ahead, a look at the scandals from the other side. what would democratic strategist joe trippi tell president obama to do next? next, joe is here. all business purchases.
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it just is amazing in my view political malpractice in terms of how ham handed they've been. not just their re their nonresponses, i mean, everything is beyond a pail. you're starting to gets democrats and republicans, just crossing party lines inconsiderate six they're getting in calls for them to handle them differently to get facts out there. >> greta: how do they dig themselves out of this? they're on the hot seat. you've got situations where jay carney with different responses. this irs meeting started april 24th notification they're near the end of preparing the report now getting more information that more people were involved. >> that is the whole point. everything we know about every administration when something like this happens get it out, get the facts out as fast as you can. and deal witness. because the drip, drip, drip, and spur of the ring of more information or things that you
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didn't put out immediately that sort of drip out every day, just continues to make the original problem worse. and that is where i think they are on both the ap first amendment james rosen hits against the press, and first amendment rights, and on irs, where you're on both of those you're seeing bipartisan voices on the left, voices on the right joining together and saying... you know, the way you're handling this isn't right. we want more facts. >> greta: 30 seconds left. what do they do? come out of this with a dump truck full of facts, this is it get behind them? >> yes. until friday night at 5:00. >> greta: that is the friday slot? >> that is how they've been handling these things is not working so i think that they've got to re, i think they've got to reset, get a reset button. >> greta: joe, thank you.
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