here. hope yours is better. >> the o'reilly factor is on. tonight: >> my main concern is fixing a problem. >> the white house drown in sandals. the president facing scrutiny on several fronts. how badly will all these controversies damage mr. obama? we have the best analysis in the business. >> it had a. >> chilling. >> did the irs target big money conservative donors? we will talk with the man who got hammered by the tax people. >> what do you think about the latest that's been going on with the benghazi investigation? >> i haven't really been following that much. >> i haven't been following along too closely, sorry. >> bill: the factor hits the streets to find out just how much americans know about the controversies. >> i'm bad with current

events. >> what have you been doing for the past few months? >> >> bill: caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. a special edition of the factor, sandals, the bombshells rocking washington begins right now. >> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. the president of the united states under siege, that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. the obama administration has trouble on three fronts as you may know. the irs illegally investigating conservatives. the assassination of libyan ambassador christopher stephens still not defined after eight months and the justice department secretly obtaining the phone records of some journalists. today, the president met with the turkish prime minister who look at little confused and then answered questions about the three controversies. we begin with the irs deal. >> i'm outraged by this in

part because look, i'm a public figure. if a future administration is starting to use the tax laws to favor one party over another or one political view over another obviously we are all vulnerable. >> bill: okay, mr. obama fired the irs acting director last night and replaced him today with another bureaucrat. but there is deep suspicion in some circles that the liberal obama administration created an atmosphere where far left zealots in the irs were basically unsupervised. they could do what they want. that's a hard charge to prove but, there is no question that mr. obama's administration is ideological. thus, suspicions run deep. today, mr. obama pledged a big irs cleanup. >> we will be putting in new leadership that will be able to make sure that following up on the ig audit that we gather up all

the facts that we hold accountable, those who have taken theseutrageous actions. >> bill: of course, the president had to say that what's he going to say? i'm not going to do anything, i'm not going to fix it. i don't care. he had to say that again, there is suspicion. because after 8 months, the benghazi deal still has not been fixed. and today, the president fell back on an old canard. >> i'm calling on congress to work with us to support and fully fund our budget requests to improve the security of our embassies around the world. >> bill: you may remember that senator barbara boxer and some other democrats blamed benghazi on the fact that republicans want to cut spending. the "the washington post" looked at that charge and found it completely bogus. the security screw up in libya was solely the fault of bad management in washington. why mr. obama would want to revisit the spending deal is a mystery tonight. the president is on more solid ground i should say

when he speaks about the associated press controversy. there are about 20 phone lines secretly scrutinized by the justice department. not tapped. all right. they just got the phone line records. why did they do that? here is what mr. obama said. >> when we express concern about leaks. at a time when i have still got 60,000 plus troops in afghanistan, and i have still got a whole bunch of intelligence officers around the world who are in risky situations, in outposts that in some cases are as dangerous as the outpost in benghazi, that part of my job is to make sure that we're protecting what they do. >> talking points believes that's a legitimate concern that the war on terror covert operations have to be protected to some extent. if the press prints everything, some of our people will die. but there is always the abuse of power question. did the justice department go too far with the associated press?

won't get an answer from the attorney general. he says he doesn't know anything about it it he has recused himself. the assistant attorney general still has not been forced by president obama to say what he knows. and therein lies the problem the president should be a problem solver he has authority to make his people talk, get out there. stand next to them. if there is a legitimate reason to pull the phone records of reporters then in a general sense tell us what that reason is the story is over. if there is a legitimate reason not to provided ad security in libya, tell us the reason. on the irs front, please explain why the irs director lied to the country in november. and how that department could get so out-of-control. it's a sad fact of life that politics almost always intrudes on leadership instead of really solving problems, president obama and most every other modern president trying to deflect

them. mr. obama did that again today. when he put a happy face on the a.p. matter saying there should be new laws that protect reporters. >> to the extent that this case has prompted renewed interest about how do we strike that balance properly, and i think now is the time for us to go ahead and revisit that legislation. >> bill: see what i mean? so the president now wants more protections for reporters even has his administration rifles through their phone records. this is great, you know? all right. this has been a tough week for the obama administration and things will get even tougher if more whistleblowers emerge. big mistakes were made on be many fronts. almost obama must be very aggressive in complain explaining to the american public exactly what happened and why it happened. and so far he hasn't done it. and that's the memo. next on the run down, charles krauthammer will analyze the three controversies and my talking points memo. presidenthaps president

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that's important. >> i thought it was definitely an a plus. brilliant presentation. and the intone nation was equities -- exleapt. what's going on here is you have a president who came to washington and said he was going to change washington. change the essence of licks itself and now he is reduced to trying to explain why his whole bureaucracy is out of

control. now, his best answer, it makes him look ridiculous but it's the best he can do, the most protective is to take the position on just a bystander. i didn't know what was happening in cincinnati with the irs the attorney general said i don't even know how the a.p. story came about. i recused myself. i don't even remember when i recused myself. get on benghazi you get secretary of state hillary clinton at the time saying i never saw the memo the desperate memo that came from benghazi from the ambassador say this is a death interest trap. you have got it help us. everybody is unable to track what is going on. their best defense is shear incompetence it in rung the government and that's where it starts. >> bill: how did in your opinion the bureaucracy that the obama administration put together unravel? i mean, what is the weak point? what are they doing wrong in so many places?

>> i'm not sure you have got a theme that would explain everything. let me tell you the one that is the most dangerous to the president and to the presidency is the irs scandal. first of all, that's what everybody viscerally really is up upset about. benghazi complicated. the story a.p., well it's a bunch of journalists, you know, defending themselves. everybody understands the power of the irs. when you get a letter from the irs, you know it's not happy news. you didn't win the lottery. it's bad news. and you know that they have the power. and everybody feels that. for the irs to so overtly ar because its power is really bad news. now, they want us to believe that a bunch of bureaucrats in cincinnati, a hot bed of radical leftism got together and decided they would target the right. that's not a plausible story we now know it came

into washington. obama was asked this morning at the press conference did you not know about any of this? before you heard about it on friday? did anybody in the white house not know about this so he is asked about anybody and he says well, i personally hadn't heard about the ig report. >> bill: yeah, let's run that sound bite. >> why did he say ig report? >> let's run the sound bite but i want an answer to your question. i want you to answer your own question, i will speculate. >> you can assure the american people that pope nobody in the white house knew about the agency's actions before your counsel's office found out on april 22nd? >> i can assure you that i certainly did not know anything about the ig report before the ig report had been leaked through press -- through the press. >> why do you think the president worded it that way? >> look at what he was

asked. he was asked does anybody in the white house know anything about the irs actions? first of all he says i didn't know about the ig report. only i, he doesn't speak about the white house, and the ig report. he wasn't asked about that. >> bill: right. >> he was asked about. if he didn't know anything about anything, why didn't he say i didn't know anything about anything? but he was very lawyerly. he is giving himself wriggle room. he refused to answer anybody in the white house it doesn't have to go to him. if it goes to somebody in the white house, or someone taking direction from the white house, that could be a failed problem. remember, the second article of impeachment for nixon was about the abuse. >> serious business. >> why didn't he say in noe one in the white house? >> bill: no one can answer that question tonight. if i were barack obama and i was answering honestly

today, okay, i would say how do i know if somebody in the white house knew? i don't know. it wasn't brought to my attention. i don't know what they are doing 24/7. i can't possibly know that and the second thing is why did he reference the ig report? because it's in the news. that's what broke the story. and he said i didn't know anything about this ig report. you know, look, he did the same thing on benghazi when he used the word terrorism very early on in describing what happened to the ambassador and the three other americans but he didn't say terrorists. okay? and that's caused a whole bunch. so he does pars words. now the question for you, charles, as an observer of the man for five years does he do it on purpose or is he just speaking shooting from the lip as they say? >> no. when you have got a scandal with the irs that could be a fatal one you are extremely careful you prepare your words. you don't go of 00 cuff is

he is a very good politician. he chose his words. why didn't he give a broad answer i didn't know anything. >> here is the rub, if it's shown that he did know about the irs abuses he is not going to be able to hide behind that sound bite. he is through. why not if he did know, why don't he just lie if he he wants to keep and if he didn't know say look, i didn't know about any of it his general counsel learned about this april 22nd, you want us to believe that for three weeks the general counsel knew about this and doesn't tell the president? all he had to say is april 22nd when he came into our purview. >> there are a lot of. >> he knows instantly this could be a really bad deal.

does he hold it and not tell anybody else in the white house for three weeks? that is implausible. if he did -- >> bill: wouldwhy do you think they didn't tell anybody for three weeks when they knew it was going to come out because the inspector general was going to issue the report. why didn't he they tell anybody? said we don't know anything about it. >> i don't have an answer on this. all i know is when you hear the parsing of the words and you have these implausible elements you know there is something else behind there. we don't know what it is we will find out. >> bill: the mystery deepens. i don't know if we will find out or not i don't know. mexico on the run down one of president obama's harshest critics congressman darrell issa assesses the situation. >> this organization has created executive orders, lousy at actually getting legislation through or even complying with existing laws and when it comes to transparency the american people are the losers. both tylenol and bayer back & body are proven to be effective pain relievers tylenol works by blocking pain signals to your brain

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>> bill: thank you for staying with us, i'm bill o'reilly in the personal story segment. darryl its issa. chairman of the house oversight and government reform committee. been involved with benghazi, the fast and furious gun scandal and liberal appointment beings. congressman joins us from washington. i think tonight we want to try to advance the story. the factor audience knows what has happened. president obama says he is going to fix it the only thing he is not going to fix is benghazi. all right? that is still very murky. he is going to fix the irs. going to get to the bottom of the a.p. thing. thinks it might be justified it might be justified. how do you see this going forward? can you link mr. obama to anything that's going to be troublesome for him? >> certainly, bill, the first thing you have to remember is that with fast and furious after congress was lied to. the american people were died to for 10 months he

asserted executive privilege and not willing to turn over the actual records of those lies. that certainly would advance transapparently season before we get to benghazi. >> bill: getting away with it though then, there is nothing more you can do. his own justice department is not going to investigate it it's a skate, he wins. >> well, perhaps, although a federal judge has the case before them. he may defy a federal judge but we don't think so. bill, the real problem here is there is a pattern. there is a broad pattern that agency after agency of this government, you know, nlrb with boeing. you can go through a litany of different entities who if they get to court are essentially slammed for exceeding their jurisdiction butted in the short run this administration is great at executive orders. lousy at actually getting through and laws. when it comes to transparency the american people are the losers. >> bill: everybody knows

that now. in fact, each the left knows it because what they are writing is well the president is a big ideas guy. is he not involved with the micro. he doesn't really manage that way. so, yeah, the irs is out of control in cincinnati. he wouldn't know anything about that. and, yeah, the benghazi thing, well, it was a screw up from top to bottom but that's hillary clinton's fault. he doesn't micromanage hillary clinton. this is what even now the left is now saying he is a big ideas guy. is he not a micromanager. one person called him a bystander. so, where does the story go if that's true? i mean, you can have your hearings and you can bring these guys in. you are going it find more relevant at the cia is probably the guy that screwed up the benghazi stuff and some state department person probably said no to more security. you will find that in the irs thing is going to be here are the irs pinheads and they let these guys run wild why would obama that know anything about a

cincinnati op. it seems to me it's going to go on and on an on until he gets out of office and we get a new president. >> bill, i'm going to look past this president for meement and realize for example with benghazi, we have three questions that have to be answered. one, how are we going to keep future state departments from failing to provide sufficient security and fittings and people for men and women in harm's way? two, how are we going to have answers when they do get attacked so there is immediate attempt at least to rescue them. three, when there is a report, a credible report from the both the ambassador before he was killed and the number two immediately that this is a terrorist attack, how do we see that the best information gets to the american people or at least isn't changed. >> bill: i don't know if if you legislate that, congressman. it all comes down to whether you have good people in positions of responsibility that's my next question. do you think that president obama and his guys and gals

appoint bad people? is that the problem? incompetent people? >> well, i mean here is an example. tom perez, who is up to be secretary of labor he made false statements to congress. violated the records act. went ahead and told us he had no private emails. then we found out he had 1, then two two, then 32 now 356789 the justice department won't turn over. it's quite frankly eric holder and other people who the president knows are basically covering for him. covering, denying, delaying. >> why would they want perez to be labor secretary in your opinion if he has got all of these lies as you say on his sheet? why would they want him in there. >> because he will be controlling an awful lot of labor policy and union activities. remember, this is somebody who went to saint paul, minnesota. cut a deal to stop the supreme court from having a case that, in his opinion, might have changed civil rights laws in some way that he didn't approve of.

he is very effective of getting done what he wants to get done but he is ideologically driven. bill, my committee is called the government overnight sight and reform committee. there are areas and i will give you the one that is most on taxpayers' minds today. the irs is essentially not a political organization. has only roughly three political appointees and they are not at low levels where this is being done. so, the question is will we provide reforms? the committees of congress that create a level of transparency and accountability that keeps the day-to-day irs people from essentially folding back into this category of no controls. >> bill: have people following them around? it just looks to me like the climate that was created here was a climate of do whatever you want if you are on the team. i'm oversimplifying. if you are on the ideological liberal team, you can do whatever you want. i will give you the last word. >> the last word is there are 12,000 men and women who work for 74 inspectors

general. and they have done a phenomenal job when called on aallowed to he see information. there is hope for the american people if we can empower the ig's as they are known to do more of this criminal investigation to look for more waste, fraud and abuse and be given access to data. that's one of the changes we want to make sure happens during this administration. >> bill: more oversight by the inspectors general. that's a good idea, congressman. we appreciate you coming on the program. coming up, there are now reports that president obama's white house counsel knew about the irs accusations. we have that story.

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>> bill: impact segment tonight, the white house now confirms that counsel, kathryn ruemmler was informed the irs was targeting conservative groups on april 24th, yet, president obama says he didn't know about it until may 10th. when the story broke. joining us now from washington former special counsel to clinton lanny davis crisis tales and ties into all of this. is that possible that the white house counsel finds out about a very serious situation and doesn't tell her boss? >> certainly possible i can't imagine that would have happened during the white house that i serveted in because the word head up is the only word i would use her. giving the president a heads up won't tell you any more than that we have a plan to get ready when it breaks is just an automatic i can't imagine that there is a reason why they didn't

do that. >> bill: you don't know what the reason is, right? >> i think the reason in my experience is that lawyers think very silo. i don't know ms. ruemmler. they don't think any more about the legal issues. it's an investigation. we are not going to share the conclusions you don't have to. just give a heads up and do crisis management planning. the press isn't really asking the right question, bill. the question is rye not give them a heads up not why not allow him to interfere with the investigation. >> bill: as usual not getting any answers about anything. let's go back to your experience. you were counsel for three years. and i would imagine that in your white house that bill clinton would have been angry about not giving him heads up about something like this. he wanted to know he was a details man. >> if there's what a coming down the track media i think the president bill clinton or any other president would want to know that that track is coming down the track and we are getting ready, yes.

>> bill: if what you are saying is true, then ms. ruemmler screwed up big time. >> well, i gather it's more than ms. ruemmler but, yes, as a matter of crisis management rules, she violated the rules about getting ready with the crisis plan letting the boss know that we are getting ready. >> bill: you said don't tell him details. what is that? what do you mean don't tell him details? >> look, i could justify that it's an investigation, you don't want the president to know until the final results are in to jump to conclusions about whether there was in fact. >> bill: you have got to tell him the parameters of what's going on. >> sure. >> bill: tea party accusations and other conservative groups. >> sure. you are a lawyer and you have got a client. you have got to let your client know what's coming down the track, what you think you have heard. you are not going to do anything to interfere. you are getting to protect your client have you got to do a heads up. >> what about the sergeant shuls thing that i used in the talking points memo. speculation, i don't know for sure there could be an

attitude of don't tell the president anything that might damage him so he will always have deniability? >> no. i cannot believe this is -- this is a president i support and a white house i support. that's a culture and a set of values that are anti- -- to what we democrats stand for. >> bill: you can't believe it but it's certainly possible? >> i would be shocked if somebody made a decision which i actually saw on twitter somewhere that there was plausible denialability judgments made. that's a dishonest white house. i don't believe that. >> bill: shocked like claude rains in casa los angeles lanka. >> it would be more than claude reigns. i don't think that happened. i think this is lawyer thinking in a silo that most lawyers do. >> bill: i don't know fz ruemmler if she is as bright as you say shoe that she wouldn't mention. >> the chief of staff has great access to the president how could he not give the president a heads up. >> bill: it's very very hard to believe. you no he why people are skeptical here, lanny. it's hard to believe this

beam have honest mistakes is that like what room are you in when benghazi happened and you can't find out in nine months? >> i have been accused of i think crisis management is what he needed. the poll rowlts show he hasn't been hurt very much yet but i think this is -- >> bill: what about the country? does it matter to you lanny davis that the country is being run honestly and efficiently? does it matter at all. >> so far honest and just some bad judgment. >> bill: bad judgment? can't find out where he is on the night of the ambassador attack and now his counsel doesn't tell him about irs? >> that's irrelevant is a good answer if you are on a sunday talk show. it is relevant and i think that shows inexperience. >> bill: inexperience. alany's book is "crisis tales." davis is lucky because the

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>> bill: thanks for staying with us i'm bill o'reilly in the factor investigation segment tent, did the irs target conservative donors during last year's presidential election? frank varnt salute an idaho businessman says he had a bulls eye on his back. van der sloot donated 1 m ld to help mitt romney was audited on three different occasions and ran up nearly $100,000 in legal bills. i spoke with him recently. >> bill: we had you on a little more than a year ago after you donated to the romney campaign and the obama campaign web site began to hammer you, put your name out there and all of this business. let's start there. then what happened? well that morning, april 20th, 2012 that's when my life changed. i got a phone call from my son and he said you have got to look at this. i went on the campaign's web site and sure enough there it was. 8 of us signaled out out of thousands of donors suggest

saying two things about us. one thing they said was that the 8 of us had less than reputable records and we had been on 00 wrong side of the law which certainly wasn't true for me and i don't think was true for any of us. >> bill: that was on the obama campaign official web site, right? >> the smear of you. then it gets out and the far left web site start to do what? >> well, the very same day we starte seeing blog sites and so-called journalists started to repeat those messages about us. and about me personally. and then i started losing customers at my business. we had hundreds of customers that our emails lit up. our phone lines lit up. and we -- all hell broke loose for us. >> bill: when did the irs appear?

there is one thing that happened before the irs came. that is we found on investigator working for the permanent subcommittee of investigations or at least he said he was employed by them. snooping around the courthouse. idaho courthouse my hometown for three days asking questions about me personally and my personal background and digging into records and them kim stras sal came out and said this is the president's enemies list. then there was an outpouring of support for us. >> bill: you don't know exactly who that man was who was nosing around in idaho? we don't know exactly who he was? >> sure we do. sure we know his name was michael wolf. >> and he worked for who? >> well, we don't know for sure who he worked for. >> bill: that's what i mean we don't know. >> his web site. >> who is he connected to. >> his web site said he worked for the permanent subcommittee on investiiations for the u.s. senate. >> bill: oh. >> that's what it said at the time. >> bill: that looks like there is some, you know, guy trying to dig up dirt on you.

let's get to the irs which is most important. >> okay. >> bill: then they come in, when? >> on -- let's see two months later on september 12th, 2012. i got my first letter of that we were going to be audited. >> bill: had you ever been audited before? >> one time in the last 30 years. so you are audited by the irs and somebody else came in to look at your books as well. >> i told you the date wrong. the first letter was in june. second letter was around september from the irs. >> bill: was there another agency involved in looking at your finances as well? >> yes, the department of labor. so i got two audits on two notices of -- one notice of two audits in june and then the department of labor and then once again, in september the third irs audit. >> bill: okay, so then there is four actions against you. now, it's almost a year

later. did any of those audits come up with anything? >> no, sir. >> bill: nothing. >> clean bill of health. no penalties, no fines, nothing. >> bill: they owe you money i understand, right? >> they owe me a large refund, yes. it's been held up. they tell me it's coming. i should get it within the next 90 days. >> bill: okay. >> it's been held up for a long time. >> bill: in order to defend you and your corporation, had you to spend 100,000ness legal fees. are he they going to reimburse that for you? >> oh, i don't think so. i don't think that's part of it. about it was about $80,000 in total that we spent on legal fees and accounting fees. evidence heavily audited. >> bill: circumstantially there is no question you are a target because you gave money to mitt romney. that's what it seems like. >> here is the question. they chose 8 people. the president's campaign chose 8 people. i believe to show what happens to donors to the romney campaign. it had a big impact on me. it was chilling on the other people too. >> bill: yeah, i bet. >> i'm hoping that they

will come forward and say what happened to them, also. >> bill: you know what's going to happen, mr. van der sloot? you are going to be called in front of congressional committee to testify are after they see this tonight. you know we have got to stop this. we can't have the irs terrorizing american citizens for doing what they want to do legally in the political realm. you are a man of courage. we appreciate you standing up. if anything happens, any blow back towards you, any threats towards you you let us know right away, and we will follow the story, mr. van der sloot. we're sorry you had to go through it? >> thank you, thank you. >> bill: next on the rundown it, looks like the irs will be in charge of enforcing the obama care provisions. lou dobbs will tell us about that what about the folks? do they really care about these scan delsz? >> do you know what happened that night in benghazi. >> not clue man i'm bad with current events. >> four americans were killed in terrorist attacks. >> that sucks. >> this is the first time you are hearing about that. >> yes t. it is. >> what have you been doing >> what have you been doing for the past few all stations come over to mission a for a final go.

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>> bill: lose the boss segment. woman named sarah ingram appointed as the director of the irs affordable care act office. in charge of making sure businesses comply with obama care and if they don't they could get fined. some people are upset about this because of her background. before we get to ms. ingram, what about van der sloot that is what the irs scandal is about. individual americans making a donation and all of a sudden the personal live is investigated and the irs down the train running 80 grand in legal fees up. >> and the arrogance for the irs to step in at whoever's behest.

this is a man of resources. van der sloot is a multimillionaire with great resources accountants and attorneys and they hammer him with irs audits, labor department surveys. that is powerful intimidation. >> bill: that is what the irs story is all about. if you ask miller i don't know anything about it. nobody knows, lou. >> steve miller, dave camp of the ways and means committee nailed it. a man with such arrogance. he knows he is beyond the power of the congress. he told them i'm not playing and i'm not talking and i will have to be forced to talk. >> bill: he is going to jail i think. i think there is a good chance he is indicted. this ingram woman should i be frightened or what? >> we should be very concerned that this president acting contrite, acting outraged and asking a man to leave his post two weeks air le as director of the -- >> bill: before he leaves he

will find out all of the names and get everything. >> he will have a refresher course in what happened while he there was. she was the person in charge for much of the time in which the acts were committed. >> bill: how could she be in charge if miller was in charge? >> miller put h her there, shulman put her there. the tax exempt division. >> bill: she was running the tax exempt provision which is what the tea party and that were trying to gain that kind of status. >> running that and running them off. >> bill: , well, that is your -- she will tee nye that. >> i know that. >> bill: she is in the middle and up to here and let's put her in charge of the obamacare. >> a natural place. >> bill: make her more powerful. >> no one can come up with the title but we do know that she is in charge of the affordable

care act again forcement. >> implementation. >> you got to do it or you could be fined by the irs. >> if the president were going to fine some -- fire some people -- >> bill: she would be fired. >> no, they are trying to hang on to her. >> bill: the whole thing there doesn't seem to be any coordination here. you would think that well, maybe we don't put her in charge because she is going to have all of her own problems. are we get someone else. >> yeah. that didn't work out that way. they were spending most of the coordination effort it appears stamping this administration whether it be the internal revenue service with the abuse of power, benghazi an 8 month story wilmington this makes did. >> bill: this makes it worse. >> only worse because we he found out about it. >> bill: how could we not find out about it? she is in charge! >> you you remember the modified limited hangout from the nixon days where they give you a little piece to keep you

away from the main event. this administration is doing exactly that right now in my opinion. >> bill: lou you dobbs. directly ahead, do the folks really care about all of the scandals going on in washington? the factor takes to the streets to find out. >> i work and eat and go to the gym. >> i haven't been following along too ♪ bonjour ♪ je t'adore ♪ c'est aujourd'hui ♪ ♪ et toujours ♪ me amour ♪ how about me? [ male announcer ] here's to a life less routine. ♪ and it's un, deux, trois, quatre ♪ ♪ give me some more of that [ male announcer ] the more connected, athletic, seductive lexus rx. ♪ je t'adore, je t'adore, je t'adore ♪ ♪ ♪ s'il vous plait [ male announcer ] this is the pursuit of perfection. over any other carrier?

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>> i -- to be honest i haven't been following' long too closely. sorry. >> it is a joke. it's pathetic. open up the curtains, man. what about the government that is supposed to be transparent. >> do you know what happened on the nea night of september 11t, 2012 in benghazi? >> yes. >> are you just saying that? >> i'm not sure of the actual incident. i don't know. >> not necessarily off the top of my head. >> not a clue you. >> no clue, man. i'm bad with current events. >> what happened? >> oh, gosh! >> four americans were killed in a terrorist attack. >> that sucks. >> this is the first time you are hearing about that? >> its. >> what have you been doing for the past few months? >> school, working, man. >> do you know what happened in benghazi? >> no. >> have you heard the term benghazi? >> no. >> who was the secretary of state when the incident occurred? >> who was the secretary of state? i'm not familiar.

>> who is the vice president? >> well, that would be joe bide. >> how about the irs scandal have you been following? >> which irs scandal? >> i should not be asked about this. >> not a part of that. not today. >> when are you part of it? >> next year. >> the irs ha has been taking advantage of conservatives. >> that is typical of a government with too much power that has run amuck. >> a little over my head. >> a scandal type of deal with tea party affiliates. >> it has been a big part of the news this week. how do you feel about not knowing about it? >> i feel kind of like i'm under a rock to be honest. >> do you feel bad that you don't know? >> i do and you are making me feel worse. >> i don't follow all that. all i do is work and eat goode to the gem. >> what have you been doing that you don't know who the vice president was? >> we are both college students. >> what college do you go to?

>> that would be cal berkeley. >> that is a pretty hard school to get into, right? >> it is definitely, yeah. >> do you think you have to know who the vice president is in order to go to cal berkeley? >> probably, yeah. >> bill: here is my take on this. no question that we the people are becoming distracted. i write extensively about that in my new book. the machines are taking over and when you spend most of your leisure time tweeting, gaming on the cell phone at the game, whatever you don't have much time to absorb information. that is what happened. literally half the country has no blanken clue about how the obama administration is running things. and you know what? many of those people don't care. it may be a slight ex-agarics but if albania took over the usa but the tech heads still had gizmos, welcome albania.

that is what is going on. that's sad. thank is for watching this special edition of the o'reilly factor. i'm bill o'reilly. always remember the spin stops right eeeeeeeee're definitely looking out for you. welcome to this special edition of hannity. we will be focusing on how to best reform the broken immigration system. joined by senator marco rubio and a special panel made up of experts on the issue. marco rubio has been pushing for immigration reform something that has not been successfully done in the u.s. since the 1980s. >> this administration has taken a strong stand to stiffen the protection of our borders. >> immigration reform. >> we need to have a comprehensive immigration reform. >> we have to have comprehensive immigration reform. >> immigration reform. >> sean: it has been promised