♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ think. hello, everybody. i'm eric boling, kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, dana perino and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five"! >> eric: are you ready to have your blood pressure hit the roof. remember when eric holder was called to testify in front of american people about snooping on journalists. we got a lot of this. >> i don't know. i don't know what has happened in this matter. i don't know. i don't know. >> i assume he was but i don't know. that i don't know. i don't know why that happened. i don't know. that i'm not sure. we probably have to get back with an answer on that. i don't know whether or not what funds are being used or whether

that letter would apply to that effort. i just don't know. yeah, i don't know. i simply don't know. >> eric: in between some 62 i don't knows, he said this about his role in subpoenaing journalists. remember, he is under oath. >> with regard to the potential prosecution of the press for disclosure of material, that is not something i've ever been involved or heard of or would think would be a wise policy. in fact, my view --. >> eric: once more. >> that is not something i ever have been involved or heard off would think would be a wise policy. >> eric: not something i've been involved with or heard of. how do you explain your signature on the subpoena of fox's phone records. you signed the document. you, sir, must have been involved with it.

you most certainly must have heard of it. kimberly, a man raises his right hand and find him in a lie -- what happens. >> kimberly: jail i wish. i hope. he should be held in contempt. this is man that is the head of the justice department? wow! were they short of resumes. this person is completely unsuited for this job. i don't think he has any credibility left. it seems to me she lying. that is the problem. >> greg: while he was sworn he had his fingers crossed. and it's null and void. his argument is going to be, you can't know everything. you can't know everything because the government is so big and vast. he is only one man. what is that telling you what the solution should be. a smaller more limited government. to me it is awesome that the champions of big government are

the best argument against big government. watch that. watch him talk. that is the lesson for everybody. >> eric: are you buying that eric holder testified that he had never heard of subpoenaing journalists and never knew about it yet he signed a subpoena. >> dana: i find it very bizarre. i work in the justice department for a bile. i know attorney general has a lot to do. this wasn't like correspondence. this was a warranted for a reporter. i believe this is unprecedented. it's something that would stick out in your mind. at you are getting to go into hearing, press secretary had to deal with it. president of the united states had to dealt with it. then you testify and you didn't have anything to do with it. he is on the hook, remember, somebody had to bring that paper to him. you got the assistant attorney general who asked for the document. you have attorney general's

staff who prepared the document for him to sign and gave it to him. then they don't remind him he signed the document to spy on reporter --. >> eric: bob, heavy lifting. >> bob: it's a federal law, i don't think -- there is a penalty if in fact that is the case which obviously seems like it is. i look at it from political standpoint. he a liability. i've talked to a lot of people on the left that weren't comfortable with it. eric holder tried to get out of job six months before the election. obama and valerie jarret talked him into it. it begins to cut and he may find himself out of work.

>> eric: we'll still talk about this. here is the problem with government. when something goes wrong they investigate. listen how they want to do it? >> i'm troubled by the possibility that leak investigations may chill the investigative journalism that holds government accountable. i have raised these issues with my attorney general. he has agreed to review existing department of justice guidelines governing investigations that involve reporters. i directed the attorney general to report back to me by july 12th. >> eric: eric holder investigates eric holder? >> this is incredibly inappropriate. how can you say there is going to be an unbiased investigation here. he is going to say we're doing an investigation, we've done nothing wrong. or she going to recuse himself. he is good at recusing himself. now what he needs to remove

himself. that is the prudent thing to do at this point. i think we need to know what is the standard now. what is the standard of the justice department. do we have first amendment that we utilize to protect us or do we not? and president obama, if i were rrt this is what i would ask. >> he told eric holder but in that conversation, did eric homd remember that he had signed a search warrant or say i don't know. i have to check in this. in the meantime, nbc uncovers that eric holder sign the document. so what did the attorney general tell the president and what was it truthful. >> greg: that is good question. >> dana: thank you. >> greg: holder investigating holder, he probably doesn't know where to start. essentially it's having a kid grade his own paper. >> i hated that!

>> self-critical. >> i wanted to go bob back, there a cut and it's bleeding. in this curriculum it doesn't matter, did in this climate. he just grows another one. another one takes its place. basically all this is, it's a lesson for america to see what happens when government gets larger and larger and becomes insatiable about power. the bestng for government is sunlight. people watch what happens. >> bob: i like eric holder and admired him many ways. could you leave me alone. [ laughter ] i find it, he is not a stupid man. to go under a say that and that is not something to be taken lightly. signing that subpoena and

another call for a independent prosecutor. but then you get eric holder appointed. >> or sign the documents, hey, i've siend this. it raises a flag. they don't think of james rosen as reporter. >> eric: new details from new yorker that eric holder fought to keep the warrant to search the private emails of james rosen a secret. why? because the government wanted the option to continually searching rosen's emails. it's scary how far they were willing to go. >> dana: there was every reporter -- >> if this is correct, they fought for the subpoena that eric holder signed that he went to hioyd may 15th and he had no

idea about. >> let me say something. when he sees fox news, remember you scared him. you ran up to the white house. he knew who you were. i don't buy any of this. >> greg: i know what happened. remember you want to get a permission slip and you would talk to your parents and put that in front of them. >> it was lower level aides. >> you the problem is he is the attorney general. it's his responsibility. he is the highest form of justice. he is responsible. >> do you have a case against the government -- him personally as a citizen of the united states would he have a case against the justice department. >> it would be incredibly

difficult for him to have anything. >> dana: this would be new case law. >> kimberly: it would establish new precedent. >> eric: do you remember when senator obama was calling for him to step down? >> yeah. >> eric: they were calling for the department of justice is alleged to have done here. >> in their minds the firing of political appointees, 7 u.s. attorneys, they didn't care much about the republican appoint ease ees to have gonzalez to be fired over that. every day they would ask to fire everybody. >> bob: the attorney general in every administration, attorney generals are under attack they generally don't last this long. look at janet reno. >> bob: go on down the list. think of every modern attorney general, i can't think of one that wasn't.

>> eric: that is the appoint that government is so corrupt. >> greg: you have most ideal logical is the attorney general ideological. that is where holder is now. >> he enjoys absolute power. there is no check on him. when something is exposed by fox news. >> i do think the white house needs to answer about something in regards to this. this is what reporters do. they seek out sources. they have sources to tell them things. if the reporter wins as a press secretary, he is saying, okay, i have to deal with that. is every reporter in washington under the same restriction, co-conspirator. >> bob: reporters tend to rally around each other. remember when fox was left out of something, the pool, and the rest of the press came forward.

so i think press is going to take a hard look -- he made news >> eric: again. the ring around the presidency. we have to leave there. eric holder is also going to oversee the investigation of the targeting of conservatives by the irs. that should be fair and balanced don't you think? dana has more coming up. good song, by the way. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ why are twice as many people choosing verizon over any other carrier? many choose us because we have the largest 4glte network. others, because of our reputation for reliability. or maybe it's because we've received jd power and associates' customer service award 4x in a row.

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♪ eliza cummings of maryland the scandal may have a chilling

effect on the irs so finally some good is coming out of all of this. thank you very much. thank you. >> comic relief on jay leno. bright side from irs scandal. lawmakers were trying to get to the bottoming of targeting conservative groups and they were meant with silence. lois lerner on took the fifth and day later she was put on administrative leave. she is going to get paid but not sitting well with some. >> administrative leave with pay that is my dream job. you can sit around and still get paid for doing nothing. i don't think that is going to fly with the hill. you can't forget had is bipartisan problem on the hill. there are a lot of democrats have upset about it. she is i think going to have to be sacrifice add at some point. >> dana: strong words from him. bob, i am wondering if you hear

the same thing from democratic circles, whencome home from memorial weekend they are going to get an earful. >> bob: i have and they will and the are upset about it. there has been some conversations. nancy pelosi came out there has been conversations, steny hoyer, let's get this done. democrats are running scared and rightfully so. tough position in senate, election is next year and house not going gain ground. >> dana: so the irs, because of the sequester they had to have furloughs. irs offices were closed today. actually think i it was probably a good thing for america in the long run but not the employees that tonight get paid. she does something wrong. she continues to get paid and that doesn't sit well with a lot of people. >> eric: the reason for it.

she may not be a member of the national treasury employees union but she is certainly that contract. she can do that. i'm not going to quit. i'm going to plead my case. here is the point, though. the irs if you have ever been audited by the irs they are tough. they are mean. they are cold. for to plead the fifth, they have a lot of explaining to do. they have to come back and explain to the american people why they did what they did, how they are going to fix it. frankly, it was steven miller, we've got bad customer service -- no, you didn't. you lied. you targeted and cheated and you may have broken the law. >> and they were so petulant. targeted by taxpayer and not answer questions. >> you discriminate based on their political ideology. why don't you get a job in north korea or china. >> the groups that were targeted

pulling together and lots of them are starting to file lawsuits. do you think they have a case. >> kimberly: there should be a case. there should be precedent established to to make sure it didn't happen again. so when there is abuse of federal government and federal authority like this, there is somebody to hold them in check. >> dana: how do they get to the bottom of it? the attorney general is under fire. how can the administration deal with this? is it the fox guarding the hen house. >> greg: i don't follow. can i go back. which was cummings saying he is worried about the audits. here you have a representative of the people not concerned about the people. concerned about the enforcement arm. people that collect the money.

there is something about this whole mess, was the government needs is punishment. i had needs to be grounded. irs gave the answer. more you agitate the less likely they can target you because of what went on. if they target you through an audit, then they are exposed as they are exposed now. in a sense irs has helped to bring down big government. you should go to a buy a sign and painted audit because they can't audit anymore. this is amazing achievement. this is more about big government and the fact they are caught off guard. >> bob: i talked to a democratic house member, here is what worries me. in order to balance it out, irs is now going to investigate a lot of liberals. you know, i don't know how you

get out of it. >> problem is, the column today and based on huckabee interview about, it's not just the irs targeting them the irs and atf and epa and tsa and others. >> eric: one way you could do it. the penalty for perjury in congress is up to five years in prison. >> maybe jail term doing it in guantanamo. >> lois lerner is small potatoes. you have to press her and it will lead to leader of the free world which is valerie. >> great line he didn't use, a slow learner. and actor morgan freeman fell

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♪ ♪ >> greg: now been four nights that sweden's capital has been subjected to riots by husband of youth. rioting followed a killing of a man and is taking place in the suburbs. riots are blamed on anger. racism and increasingly divided society. it's the haves versus the have nots. this anger is linked to recent of speakers.

for all countries immigration, it comes from erosion of country called patriotism which encouraged a sense of belonging among immigrants. wunt you don't believe you great and humans sense weakness. this is new syndrome. not embracing your captors but sacrificing your world with rage to replace it. see the brutal terror killing in england. for some a separate identity takes place over unity. melting pot becomes an angry but fay. we wonder why he as more than me. this thinking flows from the top. this is not a good place to be. but it is where we are head ordinary worse beheaded. bob you, made a point last night when people move from places that aren't very good, they

should seem happy or at least welcome to challenge. coming to move to a better place to a place of more opportunity. what we are seeing a different kind. >> bob: interesting thing about this influx of people from other countries, they tend to stay together and n communities. their resentment build. what this is going to have, you watch in the next four or five years. in europe particularly anti-immigration groups that have been getting stronger and stronger political. they it in germany and sweden and they have elected people to help with the problems. the question i raise, what does this do to the immigration bill? the only thing obama has left immigration bill. i'm not so sure now. maybe it will survive, but you make a decision to let people come into your country. it used to be it would make it stronger but now it makes it

weaker. >> greg: they immigrated from venus. >> california, actually. >> greg: does this frighten you. do you see irlt spreading. >> when you look at this, the problem it's not unique in sweden, you are seeing it u.k. and france because liberal immigration policies and multiculturism has produced this. you don't see like angela merkel having this problem because they are so strict. when you look at the evidence and facts, it's there. this is the problem. you are seeing it across in countries that are having these liberal policies. you really need to be more certain about who you are letting in when extended families with loopholes for people that want to do harm get in. >> bob: it's not about liberal policies. it's about muslims. >> whose policy is that?

>> bob: who are the reuters, it was young muslim immigrants reuters. this is part and parcel of a bigger picture. the muslim religion. >> who is deciding this is good policy. but you are allowing people to come in and wanted to do the country harm. >> greg: i think we believe assimilation is rude to an incoming culture, right? >> eric: will there is assimilation and radicalization. what happens is the environments or groups or countries or governments that want to be more diverse and more open borders. they look for the assimilation but the radicals look for the same groups and same governments and say, here is a good opportunity. >> you have an opportunity to go radicalize and certain percentage of the population and

they achieved their goal. bob, to your answer, i think it's more liberal countries that allow in and that is where we need to target. >> why wouldn't you go to a country that has a liberal immigration policy. >> bob: people have come in and they have been added to society and assimilated fine. >> greg: think there is something different. last word, dana. >> dana: swedish are very generous people. they are willing to share it with people. it's not just immigration politics but it's the benefits coming to the country. one of the things they have to do, if you committed a crime, your family is not allowed in. assimilation has to be a two way street. there is work we have to do for people that want to get here but you can't assimilate and be

angry about it. the problem is they used to get a car like yours. now, they wanted your car. something radical has to happen. i done the know if the swedish are going to be force naod a situation of refusing their benefits. >> greg: that was more than one word. i'm joking. >> you and morgan freeman. >> and face to face with jersey shore after years of trading jabs. do snooki and the governor make peace? and do some fist bumping. i'm sorry. all business purchases.

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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ all right. welcome back. on this memorial day weekend. seven months after super storm sandy there is great news to report. jersey shore is officially back in business. to open up the beaches and christie will be taking pictures next tuesday. president obama will be checking it out and not another photo op and another possible christie campaign in 2016. >> the fact of the matter is he is the president of united states. if he wants to see the people in new jersey, i'll be here to welcome him. >> kimberly: now for or laundry segment. [ laughter ] >> and will that affect his run

in 2016 and another photo op next week. it will probably help him. this guy has got it. he has it covered. he wants to be republican but he is getting skinny, he'll be skinny by '16. i think he is the one that possibly can give hillary clinton a run for her money in 2016. >> dana: people hardly remember that the boston terror attack happened a month ago. whatever happens next tuesday, they won't remember back in 2016. it was a silly question. >> bob: how far this has come and how far these communities have come. people pitching in. the idea of looking at this and saying, look where they were.

they are back in business. >> and guy that was huckabee and fact that he lost his home and he was huckabee show that day. when was rebuilt. i would say i would take you to staten island for it. >> threw there you go. >> i figured out how chris christie is losing all that weight. hanging around obama is good way to lose your appetite. it's a non-story. who cares. he is the president. i don't know why we did that segment. >> i didn't say about your segment, greg. >> and are we doing something else? >> we have hard news editorials. >> somebody roll the snooki spot. >> i'm from jersey. >> i know you are.

>> i appreciate it. >> glad to meet you. >> i think that is so fun, oh, you know -- >> who are those people? >> jersey shore, snooki. >> are you kidding me. that is newsworthy. >> that is why i made a joke, this is hard news. get it? [ laughter ] >> so what i was going to say, there is $56 million coming from the government for jersey shore and new york and parts of connecticut but the question is, is that what we do? i would say yes. i live on the east coast so, but senator from oklahoma says, anything that is spent on the oklahoma tornado should have

been paid for. >> it's prioritized go for n government. if we didn't have to spend money on things like solyndra. >> eric: tom coburn says it's $200 billion we waste. >> kimberly: who can i insult before we go. >> i'm looking for a male nurse for this weekend because, please call greg at fox. we got a great show planned this memorial day. >> you will have to tune in to find out. 5:00 p.m. eastern, up next on the five. it's commencement time. forget about all those boring speeches, our own advice to college grads you want to see all of that next. [ phil ] when you have joint pain and stiffness...

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♪ >> who in the name of that song? all right. it's graduation time. college graduates are about to enter the real world and we want to share our own advice. we have a tip or two. i'll kick it off. let me say this to you. don't buy a notion america has too big a deficit. go to a republican meeting and you'll get it. country has come back. it will be fine. don't worry about the jobs. the other thing is, there are no big deals in life. you will stumble on and find that things will look back and six months, it was an opportunity. greg? >> greg: my first one forget everything you learned in the last four years. it's all poison from ponytail from the liberals.

don't follow your dreams. everybody in those stupid commencement speeches will follow your dreams. that is lie. dreams are way too majestic. all you do is dream instead of doing something. don't dream. go look. join the military. join a gym. do something with your dreams. the fact is overtime, you figure out, all the dreams delays you. >> you sound bitter or weird. i think some passion. >> dana? >> dana: take time off and do a road trip across america. i love that drive from black hills of south dakota to san francisco. i also like going south -- [ laughter ] >> dana: i grand canyon, but this is good advice to see america. i learned a rule on twitter who said on a road trip, never eat

at chain restaurant so you get to know the local people. and handwritten note and don't forget to. that is important. >> write a note to bob evans and say i'm sorry. >> dana: i wrote handwritten notes and get my network going. it's a lot more than an email or on facebook. >> bob: let's go ahead. >> kimberly: so, good idea to travel abroad. you get an opportunity to go study at another university and do a semester there. i studied in dublin, ireland. >> was there beer there. >> kimberly: was there beer there? >> and keep on coming in. >> rest of my advice is to take

internship opportunity. one that i worked was working at district attorney's office and i wanted to be a prosecutor instead of working in private practice. i'm sure glad i got to do that. i did work in private practice in internship and decided else. don't drink too much. and definitely don't do drugs. that worked for me. >> and use hand sanitizer. [ laughter ] >> and talk to the guy who most successful graduate in recent memory who made millions of dollars on the commodities exchange. eric boling who had a bad record in school. >> eric: no, i didn't. [ laughter ] >> eric: okay in my opinion, sound pieces of advice. number oning look for every tint. look for the opportunity that are called easter eggs. look for a door that is going to

open up. that had the cuts to take the job. next one trust your gut. make sure whatever you do, make sure you weigh both opportunities. by all means, number one, last word from my mother, never quit. never quit. >> never trust a gutfeld. >> there you go. >> one more thing. >> i thought we were passed that >> got to get it out. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ make a wish! i wish we could lie here forever. i wish this test drive was over, so we could head back to the dealership. [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. test drive!

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freeman are in a new movie and they were doing an interview with the seattle fox affiliate. i want to watch what happens during this interview about their movie which must have been something. roll the tape. >> good morning. good morning. >> think about thing about this movie we do tricks but these reaction was incredible. they actually show you. in the story police come in. >> yeah, i did a cover-up. played a magician in one movie. but i had to learn card tricks. >>. >> i don't know. >> did you know that. >> move on. >> some is something that alec

baldwin tweeted last night concerning the irs scandal. whole irs thing has a whiff of breitbart to it. i wanted to explain that. the key difference between alec baldwin and andrew breitbart. he exposed it and alec called his kids pigs. >> so, if you think government has a lot to do, you haven't been to new york. at the general assembly they are working on legislation that would protect bowling alley owners, bowling shoes you have to wear, they go out and slip on the ice, this has been happening enough and they are suing. i asked my aunt, in wyoming, memory lane. she she is responsible owner. she says check your shoes. you can't go outside in your

shoes. one more thing, two more things. up close 43, my interview will re-air tomorrow at 4:00 p.m. eastern. i hope you see it. >> greg: and "redeye" tomorrow night. >> bob: you are always on "redeye". >> look. >> kimberly cam. >> foreri hunter who plays with the tigers. but something he did with a little boy who was suffering from leukemia granted a wish. and play before the game and go to the locker room and little girl is named after his parents because he is such a big fan of this, they are going to name the boy hunter. >> bob: that is great. >> eric: all major league

ballplayers should be doing that. the kids idolize them. that is nice gesture. good people. very quickly, remember, jake who asked kate up ton to his prom. >> you are on the cover of sports illustrated. i read sports illustrated. >> we were out all night long until 11:00 that is my curfew. >> will you go to the prom with me. >> kate said no but all, nina went to the prom with jake. there is a picture of the two of them. jake, moral of the story, never quit and look what happens. >> i think this is very weird trend. a very weird trend. >> you are worried. somebody is going ask her to the prom. >> we have to go.

all have a great memorial day weekend. reminders for a memorial day special, 5:00 p.m. eastern. right now, special report. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> gregg: i'm gregg jarrett. top of the news this hour, fallout in washington after the department of justice admits the attorney general eric holder's signature is, indeed, on documents behind the investigation of fox news reporter of james rosen. we are live at the nation's capital. >> arthel: and lone star state is dealing with dangerous flooding this hour. we'll bring you stories of those trapped in the floodwaters. >> gregg: millions of americans will be firing up their grills for memorl