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>> this culture of going after tea-party groups did not just accidentally happen. i think it comes from the top nterms of tone. >> shannon: the white house may be ready to move on, but senator lindsay graham is calling for a special counsel to conduct an independent investigation. there are three separate hearings on capitol hill and there are real questions as to whether the obama administration can credibly investigate itself. i am shannon bream live in washington. we go to steve centanni for the latest on the irs scandal. >> reporter: democrats and republicans alike have condemned
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the irs targeting of conservative groups burke many disagree on how to go forward. some republican, including lindsay graham want a special prosecutor to investigate the matter. other republicans are wary because the president's own attorney general, eric holder, would appoint the prosecutor. and some say president obama should have known what was happening at the irs. >> the president, as the comeef executive officer has the obligation and the responsibility to stop t. to wait until the investigation is finished. i think the president should have been told. if it's an action by a department or an agency, the president should be told about it to take corrective action. >> reporter: democrats say congress should investigate sips there is no evidence that the white house or the treasury department were involved. president obama forced the resignation of the acting commissioner of the irs. democrats defend him because he was not given all the information, even as the irs
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audit was being conducted. >> giving the president piece-meal incomplete information doesn't make sense. you want to give the president the complete picture, so the responsible actions can be done comprehensibly. it is important to understand that there is nothing to point to outside influence or any political motivations here. >> reporter: there have been three congressional hearings, but many questions still remain unanswered. shannon? >> shannon: steve, thank you very much. president obama's declaration that we are at a crossroads in the terrorism is igniting a new debate -- drones, guantanamo bay and terror, all covered in the president's national security speech on thursday and washington is weighing in on the sunday shows. peter doocy has the latest. >> reporter: president obama tried to change the subject this week amid multiple scandals surrounding his white house, by giving a speech in washington, promising to scale back the
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terrorism, close the prison at guantanamo bay and restrict the use of drones. >> before any strike is taken, there must be near certainty that no civilians will be kill or injured. the highest standard we can set. >> reporter: but that sounds like a retreat to some of the president's critic who is argue that right now is not the time to limit our options for dealing with terrorism. >> this is the most tone-deaf president i could imagine, making such a speech at a time when our homeland is trying to be attacked, literally every day, changing the standards of when you can go after somebody with a drone -- it has to be a continuing it imminent threat to the american people with no chance of civilian casualties, virtually no chance of civilian casualties. i think we are diminishing our national security infrastructure. >> reporter: other senators see the speech as a positive and a way to reset the nation's political mind-set after more
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than a decade at war. >> you just find in a war-like atmosphere that you compromise some basic values and basic freedoms and liberties. that's what the president reminded us. i am not going to take lightly the terrorism threat against the united states. but if we are constantly thinking of this in the context of war, we stand the very real risk of doing things which compromise our values and freedoms. >> reporter: the chairman of the house homeland security committee, mike mccall said that he thinks president obama gave his most significant foreign policy address every. bi but he also scizz he's disturbed by the president's insistence that kai is on the run. >> shannon: all right, peter. thank you very much. joining us to discuss the terrorism issues highlighted in the president's speech this week, two members of the house intelligence committee. democratic and republican representatives. congressman schiff, there is a lot of talk of the president's
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narrative about winding down the war on terrorism. which begs the question -- are our enemies doing the same? >> i think our enemies have changed in the sense that we have seriously degraded the core of al qaeda and the president's speech was a recognition of that. the likelihood that al qaeda can launch the kind of attack they launched on 9/11 has been seriously diminished. we have the spinoffs and the one-offs like in boston and the tragic attack in the u.k. this week. the president is saying that needs an adjustment on the drones and the strategic impact of those and we have to take a look at the broader strategic problems. the black eye we have from guantanamo. i think the president was right to say, we are at a different point than we were on 9/11. that's going to call for different tactics going forward and he laid out a sensible plan. >> jamie: to the point of guantanamo bay, which the president brought up and your colleague -- the president says it's a symbol around the world
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that america flouts the law. >> yoangs i don't think that's true. the president has been arguing we should close it for his whole presidency, but he no, sir never put forth a plan on how it do that. even in the speech last week, he said, if we are committed to closing it, we can work out the details later about what happens to these guys. other thing he said is, okay, we are going to take some of these folks from guantanamo and take them back to yemen. then he says yemen is the place where our greatest danger to our homeland emanates and they don't have a very good record of keeping people locked up. so i think there are some inconsistencies here. it is absolutely true that the threat has evolved. but as you are... degrading the core of al qaeda, that may not be the best time to let up. as a matter of fact, i think this notion that we can say, okay, we have beaten the terrorists, we can go back to the way things were before 9/11 is a dangerous notion.
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>> shannon: to that point, senator mccain said he thought it was incredible. he said that al qaeda has been expanding. it is not the time to back down. >> the president isn't saying it's time to back down. i think that's a misstatement what have the president is talking about. but he is saying that the threat has changed and the approach to it has changed. yes, we have the fwoakus on al qaeda, wherever it exists, but it is not the same core leadership and the top-down architecture of 9/11. that mean wiese have to shift our approach too. i think the president is signaling, too, that the drone campaign in guantanamo and some of the approaches we have used post 9/11 have also had their costs. yes, he's acknowledged they have had their benefits and he is not curtailing the drone program, he is reining it in. but he is saying, there is a strategic impact as it takes people off the battlefield and create new jihadis to go after that, as a rallying cry.
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i think he jays recalibrating the approach in mali. he wants to use more indigenous forces and turn it over to more -- our training role, rather than more american boots on the granted there. i think he is signal that this large american occupation of places like afghanistan and iraq has to be a thing of the past. >> i want to make sure that you both weigh in on benghazi. we continue to learn more information. the house has played a major role with several hearings, trying to get to the bottom of what we know, a timeline for what happened and who knew what when. congressman thornberry are you satisfyd? what pieces of information, if any, are still lacking for you? >> i think there continue to be questions what happened before, what happened during special what happened after the attack in benghazi. as a matter of fact, we were both in a lrg this week where i learned new things about what went on that day. and whether it's exactly twho denied the repeated requests for
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increased security before the attack and why they denied them, to questions about the military change of command, why things did or did not happen during the event and the political spin afterwards, i think there is more to come. it is not-- the temptation will be, we have the irs scandal, the a.p. scandal, to turn our attention away from benghazi. but for the families of those who lost their lives, but also those people who are serving our country all around the world in embassies, potentially exposed like this, i think we have an obligation to get to the bottom of the matter and learn why it happened so it doesn't happen again. >> shannon: do you think there are questions to be answered? >> there are. but they're not the questions we have been asking. the most important things on benghazi are where are we in the hunt for those responsible? what are we doing to implement the recommendations of the accountability review board to improve our security around the
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world? those are important questions, but those are the irnot the ones we are paying attention. instead, we are having endless hearings about talking points. and on the last hearing on talking points, he said what we heard from the intelligence agencies from the beginning, which is they created the talking points. yes, they made changes to them. they weren't driven by the white house or political spin. the most significant flaw in the talking points, the idea that they began as a from test was something that the intelligence community got wrong. i don't know how many time wiese want to ask the same question about the talking points and get the same answer. but i think we have exhausted that part of the issue. >> shannon: it is clear from a number of sources, there was input from the administration with regard to why to give the members of congress ammunition against us. congressman, quick follow-up to you. >> i think there is more to learn here. the political spin afterwards is just one of the issues that we need to pursue.
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but there were decisions before, during and after that are important that we can get the answers to. >> shannon: thank you both for your time and coming in. in london, police have arrested three more suspects in the savage killing of an offduty soldier. they had already detained four others employed head of an anti-terrorism why you want in kenya said one attacker was arrested near somalia years ago. lee rigby, the soldier who was hacked to death was a 25-year-old drummer and machine gunner who served in afghanistan. police in france are trying to determine if there is any link to rigby's killing killing and k on a french soldier. a soldier was stabbed in the throat while he was patrolling a commercial district. he is in the hospital. officials say his injuries are not life threatening. it is a somber sunday in moore,
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oklahoma, still reeling a week after a huge tornado that tore through town, killing 24 at last count. president obama's scheduled to arrive in moore to meet with survivors and gauge the federal response so far. we go live to where plaza towers elementary school once stood. dominic? >> reporter: hey there, shannon. the president's in the air at the moment, expected to touch down at tinker airbase to the southeast of the city in 40 minutes' time. once he has reached the ground, he will be met by a series of local officials and brats to see the disaster that the tornado inflicted on moore. he will end up right here at the school of plaza towers. we are expecting him to make a public statement at 1:15 local time, 2:15 eastern time. he will reach out to the victims and the families of the survivors. he will offer condoleiences and
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locals hope he will give them more details on the federal aid. but people on the ground want to focus on getting the recovery going. and the people we spoke to early or, who were just trying to retrieve their things. they say while the president is good here, ultimately his visit is something of a hindrance. take a listen. >> it's more of a hindrance at this point. there are family it's we are on the edge of the corridor, but families want to get in there to recover stuff. >> they have 21 day left -- to get their keepsakes and they are not able to do that today. >> sometimes you wonder if it does have any effect. i hope so. a lot of people here need that help from the government. >> reporter: will the federal government give help isn't state put together a $45 million fund to help those affected. but that's the entire storm season, it's a drop in the ocean of the help that people need here. hopefully words and plems from the president that more aid is
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coming in to support them. >> shannon: all right, thank you so much. residents in san antonio, texas, are expected to see the sun. and that will be a very welcome sight after almost a foot of rain triggered deadly flashflooding and kept cars off the road. two women trapped in their cars died and a teenaged boy is missing. crews have been conducting more than 200 water rescues already. right now, hundreds of thousands of motorcycles are rumbling through the streets of the nation's capitol in an event known as rolling thunder. these for live pictures of the scene. it's a memorial day tradition that began 25 years ago when a group of vietnam veterans wanted to honor and remember those who
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never came home. we love having you here for the weekend. we will show you the sights and sounds of rolling thunder, throughout our show today. much more to come on america's news headquarters, including regulation nation, why oil & gas companies are facing federal charges over an specious -- speech speech and windmills get a pass. in oklahoma, we will talk to two parent who is want to find the good samaritan who saved good samaritan who saved family's lives.
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eagles. each of the deaths is a federal crime. but according to an associateed press investigation, wind farms have gotten a complete pass. the obama administration not only hasn't prosecuted wind farns, it's actively shielded the industry from liability. is this a case of crony capitalism? robert, explain, this is a field you are very familiar with. explain what the law says and who is getting in trouble? >> well, thank you, shannon. one quick point. we haven't seen any bald eagles killed yet or documented cases of a bald eagles killed by wind turbine. but the two laws at issue are the migratory bird treaty act, one of the oldest federal wildlife laws in america and the equal protection act. in the thraft three or four years, we have seen at least 60 golden eagles killed by wind projects across the u.s., mainly
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in wyoming and california. there is yet to be a single prosecution, under the eagle protection act or the migratory bird treaty act, though we be there is widespread killing by wind turbines, not a single prosecution, despite the widespread violations. >> shannon: according to the wildlife society bulb bulletin. by their count, 573,000 birds were killed by wind farms. there are high penalties, hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines. some of these go into felony territory, why aren't the wind farms getting any heat? i felt this is the nut of the issue, shannon. it appears that the obama administration, even if you look at the statements from the top officials at the fish & wildlife service they are saying climate change and co 2 is such a threat that we can effectively ignore the statutes. the statutes say, in the case of the eagle protection act, after
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the first violation, each subsequentvilles is a felony. look at the pine tree wind project in california, owned by the los angeles department of water and four power. there are nine cases of golden eagles killed at the one facility. yet, no felony charges n. wyoming, duke energy, no felony charges. there is no waiver provision in either of those federal laws that allow the obama administration to say, well, we care more about the co2 than the wildlife. >> jamie:o. >> shannon: thank you very much. >> thanks, shannon. >> after the break, a story of courage and survival, a man was trapped under the rubble inside a school with his wife and three children, after the devastating oklahoma tornado and then a series of strangers came along and pulled them to safety. we will go live for their story, next. all business purchases.
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>> that was bridge collapse in washington state a fluke? or could it happen somewhere snels federal investigators are on the scene, trying to answer that question. >> reporter: the national transportation safety board says this is a wake-up call in the nation's full of age bridges. this 58-year-old span used to carry more than 70,000 cars a day, fell into the river after a tractor-trailer load flipped one of the bridge aim' beams. president obama will be in oklahoma to meet with the survivors of the tornado in oklahoma that killed 24. there are 12,000 damaged homes. parts of texas got way too much rain, way too fast this weekend, causing major flashflooding that
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left two women dead and a teenaged boy missing. it swept scar cars off the road in san antonio and trapped people in their homes. if you bought something for the weekend, wholesale beef prices hit an all-time high. some shoppers are cutting back or buying pork or chicken for barbeques or even, shannon, veg gieburgers. >> shannon: do you have cookout plans. >> reporter: i don't. but if someone wants to invite me to have a veggieburger i am open. the dead deadly tornado in moshings oklahoma, left $2 billion of damage. but there are stories of survival and hope. emma and kenny hoppy were in park plaz elementary school with three children when the tornado hit.
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they are here today because three strangers stepped in and helped. they want to say thanks. we are so happy to hear that your family was able to stay together special to survive this tragedy. kenny, tell us what happened when you went to the school to retrieve two of your children and you got trapped? >> well, we showed up at the school and my wife and my three kids were already there, taking cover. when i got to the school, we sat in the hallway. you know, with our knees, our head and our knees and: we just tried to... hope that it would go awiand not come as close as it did to us. >> shannon: emma, as you were there sheltering together, what was that experience like? >> it was very scary. very loud when it started to come. it is not fun. >> shannon: what kind of destruction was there where you were? did you have a safe place or a
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safe spot? we see the destruction, those of us who are only seeing it long distance, it's hard to even fathom by looking at the pictures, what have you experienced. what shape was this school in, the pot where you tried to shelter together? >> it was total devastation. there was nothing left. >> shannon: at some point, i understand... at some point, i understand that you all were basically trapped there, how did you eventually get out with your three children? >> well, when the tormaido hit, the roof was the first thing to go. and then, the walls collapsed on top of us. and when it was all scpaid done and it was over, we had our three kids in between us and there was a man that walked by and he said he was going to get us out. i told him, i said, i need to you get my kids out because this wall's not going to hold up.
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and he pulled all three of my kids out. and a few seconds after he pulled them out, the wall completely collapsed on top of me and emma. >> shannon: i am so thankful, as i am sure your family and friends are that you made it out. i know part of the reason you are with us today is because you don't know who that person was who helped and you you wanted to say thank you. tell us the words you want them to more and your message of thanks? >> well, if it wasn't for -- not just the one man, there was multiple people that had showed up. you know, shortly after it happened. if it wasn't for those men and those women that helped get everybody out, we -- we would have -- we wouldn't have been so lucky. so we would just want to thank you from the bottom of our heart for saving -- not just our lives, but everyone that was there. >> shannon: emma and kenny, thank you for sharing your
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story. we will have your story on our web site. if those folks are watching that helped out and they want to try to connect, we hope to broker that for you. all of our best to you and our thoughts and prayers with the recovery. we know you still have a long way to g. thank you both. >> thank you. >> the true meaning of memorial day is honored by a veterans group in los angeles. on monday, supporters will walk in honor of all warriors past and present. and the funds will support new directions, the group devoted to helping veterans return to their families and society after their service. edwardee gonzalez is here with arthur white from new directions. we welcome you both. thank you so much.
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>> thank you for having us. >> you're very welcome. >> shannon: tell bus new horizons. the need is to have a way for vets to get wack to a way of life that is normal for them? >> right. new directions -- new directions is an organization that was started back in 1992. our main focus is to provide services for homeless veterans. we go out and find the homeless veterans through outreach and provide services for them to get back on track, be united with their families and become productive members of society, once again. >> shannon: we know, it's never an easy transition back. tell us how new directions has been of help to you. >> well, to me, it gave me my foundation back society. through a number of years, i was there, dealing with the issues thatta was faced. it was the only place i could go to. it was considered the last house on the block for veterans. it was the only place that took
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care of the issue it's medical, ptsd, homelessness. it addressed the issues and gave me the opportunity to face those and become a productive member of society again. >> shannon: we are so glad that it was such a before to you. i know there are hundreds of others that you have helped and continue helping. tell us about the walk on monday and how that will help with your ultimate mission. >> definitely. providing the services doesn't come at a cheap cost. so we have to do a lot of fund-raising in order to provide services. we provide an array of services from clinical they were tow 12-step recovery for those who are in recovery. we provide a multitude of different programs, including vocational training, job search, et cetera. and so part what have we are doing is trying to raise funds in order to continue serving the veteran who is have given so much to our country. so the run/walk is tomorrow on the v.a. campus off wilshire boulevard. it starts at-- the run starts at
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8:00 a.m., the walk starts at 9:00, the registration starts at 7:00 a.m. so anybody who wants to support the veterans and have a nice time with their family, meet the veterans that are using the program and meet individual who is are just there to provide services for these veterans. they can come out tomorrow and join us. >> shannon: we have the web sites up. so people can find out about getting directly involved. arthur, we have the vets come home every single day. what's the one thing you want people to know about the help that they need or the welcome they need from their society? >> just to know that people are out there and they care. and that... a lot of us are really proud to ask for help, but when it's there and available -- a smile, a handshake, anything. that let us than we have been appreciated. so long, we have been feeling like we are out there by ourselves. our motto is never leave a man whined. it would be nice if the rest of
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america felt the same way, alsoo. >> shannon: thank you for your service and for what you are doing for all of our vets. we wish you all the best in your event tomorrow. thank you both. >> thank you. >> shannon: two key seampts sound off on the plan for the attorney general to investigate -- himself. is it a conflict of interest? or is this standard plapra? america voted and picks a brand-new "american idol." we go live to learn about the first big performance on the national memorial day concert, right here in washington. anyone have occasional constipation,
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journalism. >> he recused himself from another case involving the associated press because he believed there was a conflict inherent t. may raise the same question in this case. >> shannon: senators lindsay graham and dick durbin, discussing the department of justice decision to go after reporters, like our own james rosen. i talked about it with "fox news sunday" anchor chris wallace. it's a hot topic across the country and certainly here at fox, the discussion of the department of justice probing into our own colleague, james rosen, and other phone numbers and a wider net here at fox news. there is a discussion that you had on "fox news sunday" about whether the attorney general will be able to effectively, essentially investigate himself. >> we had a great discussion with two top carps, dick durb and i know linds agree ham and a fierce fight eye commend it to anybody to watch -- it will get fireworks on memorial day, not 4th of july, between brit hume
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and juan williams. holder signed off on the affidavit that the fbi agent had to present to a judge to get the search warrant to look at james rosen's emails. in that, it says, where there is probable cause that rosen violated the espionage act, as an aider, abettor or co-conspirator -- well, that's kind of a remarkable thing for the justice department to say. generally speaking, they go after the government official who leaks something, not the reporter, who is just doing his job and in fact, there has never been a successful prosecution that i know of of a reporter for getting classified information. the idea, 1. that holder would have signed of on this fairly unprecedented move to, and 2; that the president would ask him to investigate tgot blood boiling on "fox news sunday." >> shannon: it did. but an excellent discussion. the two sides, it is good to have that debate. something else that we found this week, as we found that the attorney general did sign off,
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the justice department telling us that decision about james rosen was vetted at the highest levels, including the discussions with the attorney general, he testified not long ago on the hill saying whether it comes to prosecuting journalists, it's something we should be very careful with. it seems to be a conflict, at least some say, in those statements. >> absolutely. it was a -- 10 days ago, mid-may in a house committee that he said exactly that. he said, i don't think that's good policy. i have never been involved in it. whether... he -- he actually tonged at that point about potential prosecution. he no, sir had he ever been involved in the prosecution of a reporter because they haven't -- they didn't bring charges against james rose nen this case. but he certainly seems to have been involved in the potential prosecution. the point is, if they hadn't made an argument in the affidavit to the judge, the judge might not have granted them the right to look at the reporter's private emails. they were making this argument
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when it suited their purposes. now they are saying, no, we never seriously considered that. if they never seriously considered it, why did they tell a judge they were considering it? >> shannon: -- >> the intecial investigation, eric holder, investigating eric holder. >> shannon: folks won't want to miss a very special visit with former senator bob dole. something for everyone. >> thank you. >> shannon: you can catch the entire interview with senators lindsay graham and dick durbin and the one on one wobob dole, airing at 2:00 and 6:00 eastern on "fox news sunday." eric holder signed off on the agency's decision to go after fox's chief wash correspondent, james rosen. now in response to the controversy, the attorney general has been tasked with reviewing agency guidelines at the justice department. do you believe the justice department and attorney general eric holder can investigate or review its own policies
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♪ >> shannon: this memorial day weekend a special occasion in california where former prisoners of war who attended a huge white house celebration four decades ago are reuniting. william la jeunesse has more. >> 40 years after the emotional return to the u.s., vietnam prisoners of warren joyed another home coming at the
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nixon presidential library. some 200 arrived to commemorate a dinner held in their honor by then president nixon may 24, 1973. >> very emotional time. it was really great for us, a healing thing for the nation. for all of us it was a great welcome home. >> reporter: the dinner largest ever at the white house marked the end of a divisive chapter in u.s. history and a point of closure for the returning p.o.w.s. >> the american people wanted to have something good out of vietnam and we were something good. we were something that they could look at and say these guys went through it. >> though vietnam scened the geneva convention, american soldiers and airmen were bound, beaten and starved. >> it is not what i experienced but what did i bring from the experience. part of it is love of our country, appreciate the freedoms we have, realize the sacrifices that it takes to have that. >> reporter: the p.o.w.s
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remember nixon not four water gate but as the president who kept his word. this is a replica of the east room of the white house and in just a few hours the former p.o.w.s will be here for dinner in what we are told is leakily to be their last reunion william la jeunesse, fox news. >> shannon: at this hour, president obama is arriving in moore, oklahoma. elget a first hand look at the devastation caused by the massive deadly tornado that ripped through the town last monday. 24 people including ten children were killed. the estimated cost of the damage, $2 billion. and emotional toll is beyond calculation. i'm shannon bream in washington. hour number two of america's news headquarters begins in moore, oklahoma where casey stegall is standing by live. >> reporter: shannon, good to see you. tomorrow is the one week mark when this ef5 tornado went
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through. ef5 is as high as they are rated meaning packing winds of 200 or more miles per hour. that is about the strength of a category five hurricane and we know this was on the ground for a little more than 40 minutes doing just about damage to everything that it touched. you know, over the last week we have been on the ground here and have been able to talk to resident after resident after resident who tell us that they are just trying to salvage. they are just trying to clean up one shovel scoop at a time. for those who had insurance they are trying to work with adjusters to get claims filed and then there are those who had no coverage and may perhaps be working to apply for assistance. all of this, of course, wheel funerals are being held this holiday weekend and a community comes together to both grieve and to lend a helping hand. >> somebody walking by and said
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hey, do you need water, do you need toilet paper, do you need trash bags? that is like someone offered me gold right now the outpouring of kindness and love is just amazing. >> reporter: puts things into perspective, doesn't it? tonight there is a big memorial service planned for 7:00 eastern time, 6:00 local at a baptist church across town and this is the first time that this community will come together as a whole since this tornado hit to pause, to be able to grieve, and to be able to honor those who lost their lives ou. out of the 24, ten children, two infants. shannon? >> shannon: tough all the way around. thank you for continuing to bring us the story from moore. >> reporter: you got it. >> shannon: there are more calls for a special council to
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step in and launch an i independent investigation of the irs scandal. some republicans say congress is ill equipped to get to the bottom of how all of this happen. >> there is clearly an organized effort within the irs to target political opponents of the president. that is undeniable. how did it come about? who you vast was it? who was involved? this does call for a special counsel. >> president obama rightfully asked for and received the acting irs director resignation. he called for a deeper dive on whether any one at the irs actually did commit any crimes. >> shannon: a number of conservative groups who say they were among those tarted by the irs are preparing to file a lawsuit this week and the releasing letters they say proved that lois lerner isn't telling the whole story.
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i talked with their attorney jay sekulou. >> we let a series of letters that show hes signatures from lois lerner herself as the head of tax exempt to our clients including the intrusive questions and those letters, shannon were issued nine months after lois lerner said the program had been shut down with the intrusive questions. they were issued in march and april of 2012. remember, she said it was in 2011 that she put an end to the entrue suv questions. that is not factually, correct. not only were they not ended but she herself was the one signing the letters. >> shannon: a lot of unanswered questions at this point. she was on the hill and gave a statement and then took the fifth. as a lawyer we have been having heated debates whether that was a legitimate thing or not for her to do.
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still left us with unanswered questions. what is your take whether she can take the fifth amendment or will have to testify again if she is called? >> if you are instructing a kleeent to take the fifth amendment they can answer the name and on o the ground the advice of counsel exercise the rights under the fifth amendment. she hshe gave a testimony and referenced previous testimony to congress and then took the fifth amendment. a lot are arguing that she waived her right under the fifth amendment at the point where she started giving her defense. a horrible tactical move. if i was a lawyer i would have told her to take the fifth as well in all probabliability. the irs involvement with the white house. the inspector general acknowledged he did not
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question any one at the white house. it was an audit, not even an investigation. you have to ask yourself, we know now that the white house was involved in how to get ahead of the inspector general report. they had conversations with lois lerner. white house counsel new. the deputy secretary of the treasury knew. deputy chief of staff and chief of staff knew but not the president of the united states? something is not right here. >> shannon: i have to ask you a question that goes more broadly. there are a number of things bubbling out there that the administration is having to address. things that are controversial and in a number of the cases what we are hearing is that the person at the top whether the attorney general eric holder or the president himself that the top person says they didn't have knowledge of what was happening. is that feasible? is that possible this is the way this was handled and at the end of the day should they have known? >> they are operating under the theme of plausible deniability. that is not the way you run agencies and that is the problem here.
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eric holder recused himself and knows nothing about the ap investigation but in the james rosen investigation your colleague at fox the department of justice what they are doing is outrageous and now the president is calling on the department of justice to investigate themselves. the fbi is already investigating the irs and that is because no one claims knowledge of anything that is in senior leadership including the president and his attorney general. if the president and attorney general do not know what is going on with the huge issues i think there is a serious problem and the malfeasance is so problematic. i'm shocked actually that the attorney general has gone after the media sources. this is not the way our country is designed to operate. if you want to go after a leak, go after a leak. to go after the media on this is really outrageous. >> shannon: we know you are planning to file a lawsuit on behalf of those targeted by the irs. we will keep an eye on that. thank you. >> thanks, shannon, for having me.
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>> shannon: we want to know what you think. do you believe the justice department and attorney general eric holder can investigate its own policies, review its own policiesity isself? several have weighed in. actually be the hundreds. garrett writes absolutely not. might it is a well give the fox the key to the henhouse and invite his friends to the feast. brian says regardless is of whether they can they should appoint a disinterested party to ensure american people the investigation is fair and complete. keep the tweets coming. we will read a little bit more later on in the show. >> the president says al-qaeda is on the path to defeat and calling for a different direction in the war on terror. the president revived his effort to shut down guantanamo bay and shared new details on america's use of drones. peter doocy with what both sides of the aisle have to say. >> reporter: president obama left to give a speech at fort
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mcnair. he wants to close the prison at guantanamo bay, cuba, and limit the use of drones. >> before any strike is taken there must be near certainty that no civilians will be killed or injured. the highest standard we can set. >> reporter: that kind of talk was referred to as a retreat by republican senator lindsey graham on "fox news sunday." this morning the chairman of the house homeland security committee republican congressman michael mccall went one step further. >> i found many parts to it disturbing for many reasons. i think the rhetoric sort of defies the reality in terms of the threat level that we have all been briefed on. i mean the narrative is sort of that al-qaeda is on the run, they are defeated let's call victory, where's over and then let's go back to a pre9/11 mentality. >> reporter: there are many in the president's camp who think this week's speech struck just the right chord in
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transitioning americans out of a war mentality. >> you just find in a war-leak atmosphere you end up come pro mizeing basic values and basic freedoms and liberties. that is what the president i'm not going to take lightly the terrorism threat against the united states but if we are are constant le thinking this -- thinking of this in the context of war we stand a very real risk of doing things which compromise our values and freedoms. >> reporter: the republican chairman of the house armed services committee wrote off president obama's entire speech saying it was only necessary in the first place because of an inconsistent counter terror policy. shannon? >> shannon: peter, thank you very much. hundreds of thousands of our nation's heros are spending this memorial day waiting for their benefits. many of their disability claims are tangled up in bureaucratic red tape. tom tarrentino is the chief
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policy officer for the iraq and afghanistan veterans of america. he talks about trying to find some kind of solution. thank you for coming in today. >> thanks for having me. >> shannon: and for your service as well. you are trying to help veterans of iraq and afghanistan but we hear about the backlogs and benefits and almost takes your breath' way. how bad is the problem? >> it is bad. not a problem that is new new. happening for decades. 10, 20, almost 50 years in the making. essentially have a disability claims process that was out-of-date before most iraq and afghanistan veterans were born. the good news is that the v.a. is transforming to the digital process that will hopefully going to prevent the needed for future backlogs. what we have right now is almost 600,000 claims most on paper sitting in rooms waiting to be filed and we have no real clarity on when they are going to go from the massive backlog today to backlog zero.
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>> shannon: is it about funding? last of percent nell? the system is getting some kind of overhaul because people the average claim waiting more than 125 days just for a response. >> it is about -- it is not necessarily about funding. the v.a. has been especially for the last four years record amounts of funding. they have been hiring a lot of people to help process claims. this is really about process. iraq and afghanistan veterans by and large are surviving combat injuries which is outstanding. there are complex injuries and more of them that they have to deal with the rest of their lives so the disability claims are much bigger than in previous generations. the problem is the v.a. didn't anticipate this even though this was totally predictable. they are still using this vietnam era post world war ii era way to process disability claims when there is just too many of them coming in and they are too complex. so it has only been in the last two or three years that the v.a. ramped up modernization
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but it was t too late and so we have this disability backlog. you might be waiting, 400, 500, 6 h hundred days for your claim and you have no clarity when it will be processed. we are calling on the president to step up and articulate a clear pan so that i know if i'm waiting for my plan there is light at the end of the tunnel. >> shannon: and there has been bipartisan support, letters to the president asking h them to do the same. i want to ask you about go silent taking place tomorrow on memorial day. what is that about and how can folks get involved? >> memorial day is the the day we remember our fallen. our buddies, our family members and honor the service of those we lost. v.a. is giving everyone a chance to participate in a moment of silence. say who you going silent for and just afternoon tomorrow spend a period with the rest of the country and give that moment of silence. it is a way to bring back the spirit of memorial day.
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not about mattress sales and barbecue you although please enjoy the day off. take that moment to remember the spirit of it and those who have sacrificed for us. >> shannon: they have for every single freedom that we enjoy. a great reminder. thank you for your service and what you are doing now to try to help hundreds of thousands of other vets. keep us updated. three more arrests in the deadly attack on a british soldier and the family of the soldier visits the site where he was bruteally killed. the latest coming up in a live report. >> shannon: and rolling thunder is roaring through d.c. this memorial day weekend. hundreds of thousands of cyclists making their way through the district to mark this memorial day weekend. [ female announcer ] he could be your soulmate.
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growing. james? >> reporter: it has been a day of extremely high emotion here are in southeast london as thousands came up the hill to pay respects for lee rigby. only temporary memorial that some what formed here at the railings of the barracks where he lived on the very site where he was killed just over four days ago. perhaps the most poignant moment of the day was the arrival of his family. the first time that the family had traveled to london to see the place where their son, where their brother died. it was clear that this was a day of extreme, extreme emotion for these people. this busy crossroad was silenced as they arrived. they were given time to walk amongst the flowers that have been left tortion read many of the tributes and to see the people who have come to visit where their son has died.
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we must remember that this is a soldier who had survived a tour of afghanistan. he deplowed to helmund province in 2009 and the fact that he survived afghanistan but then to die just outside the wire of his barracks here in london would be extremely hard to deal with. with you as i said -- but as i said, a day of high emotions for many people as well as the family with thousands laying floral tributes, coming to see the site where the soldier died with many of them asking the simple question why? >> shannon: james bank in london. thank you. police in france are trying to figure out if there is any link between that british soldier's killing and an attack on a french soldier. french antiterrorism officials are searching for a man who stabbed the french soldier in the throat while patrolling a commercial district outside paris.
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>> shannon: right now the president is on the ground in oklahoma getting a first hand look at the devastation from last week's deadly weather. during his tour he is also scheduled to visit with families and to thank all those first responders. mother nature also hit san antonio, texas, really hard this week. torrential rain caused flash flooding, killing two. and authorities are still searching for a teenage boy who was swept away in a creek. and light rain in boston
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didn't stop 3,000 you people from coming together to run the final mile of the been a mare-a-thon route on saturday. they said it allowed victims to reclaim the finish line after the incident in april. it as scandal that just won't go away. a growing chorus of lawmakers calling for a special counsel to conduct an independent investigation of the irs because they don't believe the obama administration can credibly investigate itself. steve centanni with new developments in the irs scandal. steve? >> reporter: many lawmakers are weary of appointing a special prosecutor to to look into the irs scandal but one prominent republican is not holding back. senator lindsey graham says there appears to be a concerted effort by the campaign 2006 and be investigated independently.
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he is calling for a special prosecutor. >> there is clearly an effort in the irs to target political opponents of the president. that is undeniable. the culture of going after the tea party groups did just not accidentally happen. i think it comes from the top in terms of tone. >> reporter: but republicans hesitate to ask for a special prosecutor because attorney generallary rick holder would be the one appointing that prosecutor. others like house oversight committee chairman darrell issa say it is too soon and congress can handle the investigation on its own at this point. one democrat said today the irs targeting resulted from a supreme court decision citizens united that opened the door to more poe let ca political spenx exempt groups. >> set zens united unleashed-s if not thousands of organizations seeking tax exempt status to play in political campaigns. the la you we wrote as congress
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said they had to exclusively be engaged in social welfare and not politics and campaigning. here is the irs trying to decide whether or not the organizations really comply with the law. >> reporter: democrats say they don't yet see any link between the irs scandal and the white house. >> shannon: steve, thank you. we now kno general eric holder was directly involved in the justice department investigation of fox news chief washington correspondent james rosen. >> the justice department acknowledged that attorney general eric holder signed off on the james rosen search warrant. >> in a statement it said "it took great care in deciding a search warrant was necessary vetting the decision at the highest levels of the department including discussions with the attorney general. it is the latest in what we many believe to be a shifting narrative.
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on may 15 he categorically denied involvement in the potential prosecution of reporters who received leaked information. >> with regard to the potential prosecution of the press for the disclosure of material that is not something that i have ever been involved in, heard of or would think would be a wise policy. my view is whea quite the on i. >> on npr he offered a different response. >> i'm not sure how many of the cases that i have actually signed off on. he take them very seriously. i know that i have refused to sign a few, pushed a few back for modifications. >> when asked how many requests for search warrants or subpoenas oof journalists he hd turned down he couldn't remember. and the president just expressed confidence in him. this is truly amazing. >> fox news obtained documents that showed the government went
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to great lengths to keep the search warrants secret. the government asks the judge "the fbi is currently engaged in an ongoing investigation of the leak that will be substantially and adversely affected if they were to become aware of the specific details known to the fbi." critics are deriving th -- calg it case of the attorney general investigating himself. author ron kessler believes holder is trying to strike a balance. >> so far as i can see the actions he has taken have been justified when it comes to a leak such as the a.p. leak where sources were compromised. on the other hand, with the james rosen leak it was not a serious compromise and so you do have to wonder whether there was some effort perhaps at a lower level to target fox. >> the d.o.j. said in its statement today it followed all applicable laws and that a federal magistrate okayed it
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determining there was probable cause for a search warrant. in washington, doug mcelway, fox news. >> shannon: ntsb investigators on the ground in southeast missouri looking into a freight train collision. the two trains hit columns supporting a highway and caused a bridge to buckle and partially collapse. luckily, just two weeks were on the overpass at the team. seven people suffered minor injuries. the head of the ntsb says that thursday's bridge collapse in washington state should be a huge wakeup call and her team wants to make sure a sem larenta bridge failure doesn't happen anywhere else. a track tore trailer hauling a load too tall hit the bridge steel frame and seconds later the road was in the river. the truck driver says he saw the whole thing in the rear view mirror. he is fine but the ntsb wants to talk to him. two vehicles plunged in the chilly waters below and everyone survived. the governor said it will cost about $15 million to fix the bridge.
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if you you have a computer and internet connection you can sit in on classes at some of the most exclusive universities in the world and often for free. a fleeting trend or the future of education? arthel neville is here with details. >> reporter: they are massive open online courses. like you said, an internet connection you can talk noncredit courses for free. the world's top universities including harvard columbia, uc berkeley and princeton offering virtual learning to some 15 countries through nonprofit websites. like udacita and udemi. the founder is also a stanford professor and he believe hes the old model of education is being challenge. >> when you go to school for four years and the next 40 years is on what you learned the model doesn't make sense in the rapidly changing world. we are bringing adults back into the education system so that they can keep on, you
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know, getting booster shots of knowledge. >> already, millions are tapping in with an average of 15% of them finishing the entire course. the american council on education says some are worthy of college credit. >> interesting thing is because of the technology and because we can track what students.org and what they are learning, how they are performing on different exercises and examinations, we have the ability to be able to really determine the learning outcomes. >> still, educators threat that inter-- stress that interaction is critical and crucial to learning and there may be recentment of free online courses for those paying tens of thousands of dollars to attend university. the founder says the idea is to make a top rated education accessible even to those in the poorest countries. as moocs become more
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mainstream, authentication becomes a concern. they need to make sure that those enrolled are actually the ones doing the work and taking the exams. shannon? >> shannon: thank you very much. an organization aimed at helping military spouses with new babies get the rest they need while their better half is serving a world away. on this memorial day we honor all of the soldiers, saleors, airmen, guardsmen and marines who made the ultimate sacrifice in vietnam. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. [ male announcer ] glucerna hunger smart. a smart way to help manage hunger and diabetes.
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peter doocy has those and more. hi, peter. >> reporter: the federal judge decision backed up critics of sheriff joe arpaio's crackdown of illegal immigrants. this he have been accused of pulling over drivers just because they were hispanic. also trending online the woman who had an affair with former cia director general david petraeus says she regrets the relationship. the biographer apologized for the harm she caused her family but says she is not dwelling on the past. it eventual le triggered the general's resignation. broadwell is married and has three kids. >> governor christie cut a five mile ribbon. he says 80% of the state's
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shoreline will look as it did last summer. america's most beloved meatball and jersey shore star snooki told the governor she hopes he starts to like them. for more of the trending stories go to foxnews.com. >> shannon: they looked like they were getting along well there. >> why wouldn't they? >> they do have important things in common. making shortages sure that the jersey shore recovers. and you are a jersey boy, too, so i know you care, too. >> gtl! >> shannon: oh, boy. after the show. thanks peter. >> shannon: many of you about know just how exhausting it can be to care for a newborn especially when you someone to share the duties with you like a spouse. imagine when you spouse is
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deployed overseas. that is where meigs sleep joins in. denise is the founder. tell us how this works. basically we know that when people are deployed they are missing a spouse sometimes and you have a young baby or young kids in the house and it is one person tackling it instead of two. >> that is right. we are aiming to help the moms holding down the homefront while the partners are holding it down for all of us here at home. >> shannon: somebody comes into the home? how -- what are the details of this? >> that is exactly right. i own a company called let mommy sleep and we dispatch registered nurses and licensed practical nurses clinically trained educators to aseventh the moms when they come home from the hospital. we offer the service for free to moms with deployed partners or whose partners maybe have passed away and are in those kinds of challenging situations. >> shannon: sounds like a good
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needs of mille practical tare arery families. what is the best way to get involved? >> go to missionsleep.org and click the donate button there. we need funding. the public has been amazing. the small business community has been amazing and if we could get larger funding we could bring this to as many moms as we want to. >> shannon: how do they get involved if they say hey, i need help or a friend says i know a new military mom or dad. how do they get involved? >> there is a couple of ways. typically what will happen is the family will call in to us and say listen, dad is deployed or are my partner is not able to help and we will say guess what you are are not paying and that is it. we also work with a social worker at walter reed who specifically handles moms who are pregnant whose partners are are away and that is another way. they can also again go on the website missionsleep.org and send us an e-mail and we will
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be there. >> shannon: what kind of difference does it make to get a good night's sleep when handling so many concerns? >> the words that the moms use are profound. they he call the nurses angels. you have to imagine 30 ladies in scrubs behind me he. it is not just the relief but the little bit of a chance to breathe for the moms and having a newborn is supposed to be a joyous time. it is crazy and stressful and we all get that but it is supposed to be joyful, too. >> shannon: we know you are doing your part to make sure that it is for the military moms and dads is missionsleep original for those that want to get involved. thanks for sharing it with our viewers. >> thank you, shannon. >> shannon: when you buy a house or when the baby is due, how retailers are tracking your information to try to lock you in as a customer for life. that technology is next.
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>> retired major. >> i'm about to return on my sixth tour of duty. i fight because this country has given my family everything. >> my first firefight was 8.5 minutes. felt like two days. for a second you stop thinking about the rounds that are falling past you or hitting next to feet and the mortars coming in and you just watch the awesome people do what they do best. >> the royal battle was something that the public had never seen before. the whole sea was lit up of big explosions of big guns firing. are what i saw in my camera was a good number of men being shot as they waded through the water. it was amazing to me that these guys would continue to keep on going. >> to have served in the triangle the death, the amount of violence that we have seen, i captured men and women who are doing something bigger than themself. >> i had t to lead.
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i had to be strong for the guys i was over there with. >> i think people should understand on an eland that was one third the size of central park in new york over 6,000 people were killed in 76 hours. >> every day i breathe on this planet i have to breathe for the marines that has given everything. [ male announcer ] it's simple physics... a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation.
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live, well, actually this is a taped moment but you all day we have been checking in live with rolling thunder here in washington. a touching moment as this young boy came and laid something there at the foot of the marine standing guard. this annual event is making its way through the streets of washington, d.c. vietnam veterans began the memorial day weekend tradition 25 years guy to honor and remember those who never came home. a beautiful sight to see as it takes over the streets of washington. we will continue to keep showing you pictures of that. and there is a leave look now. the data brokerage industry is gathering your information and selling it to the highest bidder and it could include information as personal as your due yo date. brenda buttner joins us with more. hi, brenda. >> stores such as target have you in their sights. they are tracking your most sensitive private information. >> if you use a target coupon or a target credit card or open
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a target e-mail and bring that into the store they will try and track who o the ground you are and what you bought in the past and the future and one of the reasons is because they want to know things like who is pregnant. >> that's right. target wants to lock you in as a lifetime customer during major life moments when your shopping habits change. >> can he when you get married or divorced, all your shopping habits progress. >> almost every retailer buys data from large ware houses to track you. >> there is someone collecting that and using that information to package a portrait of who you are and sell it to companies like target. >> target says "we use research tools that help us understand guest shopping trends and preferences to give our guests offers and promotions relevant to them. guests are always welcome to opt out of the marketing program ." >> that is easy to do but most people don't realize how much they are tracked. the truth of the matter is
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target has a point when they say we are sending people coupons to use. if you are pregnant getting a coupon for a crib is useful. you when you use the credit card you create data that allows a star to track what you are buying. yet it is more convenient to use a credit card than to use cash. >> using cash is the best way to avoid being tracked by big business. whenever possible stores try to give shoppers a unique code known as a guest i.d. number. keeps tabs on everything you buy but also linked is information like your age, whether you are married and have kids, which part of town you live in and how long it takes you to drive to the store. whether you moved recently and what credit cards you carry in your wallet and what websites you visit so you are being watched. back to you. >> shannon: get to assume that all the time. >> absolutely. >> shannon: you have confirmed it for is. thank you. >> thank you. >> shannon: we asked. you answered.
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♪ >> shannon: a fifth grade class at high crest middle school in illinois is seeing double. get this. there are 24 sets of twins. the school is hoping to break the guinness world record for the most sets of twins in one grade. parents have submitted birth certificates, school forms and photos for again necessary officials to verify. right now the title is held by a school in iowa with 16 sets of twins. if your adeof fun is to be hurled through the air 400 feet off the ground, check this out.
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you need to get to section flags over texas. -- six flags over texas. they unveiled the texas sky screamer which is what i would be doing. the tallest swing ride. as tall as a 40 story building and from that vantage point you can see all the way to dallas and fort worth. >> a woman in california has given birth to a little bundle of joy who really wasn't so little. the newborn weighed in at 13-pounds 10-ounces after delivery via c-section. the hospital staff say they can't ever remember are having a baby deliverd that size. the mother was also shocked adding there is no way her beautiful new daughter is going fit into all of the newborn sized clothes waiting for her at home. we want to take you live to the president speaking in moore, oklahoma. >> loved ones who are lost. and that was true for the parents of some of the children here at plaza towers elementary
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school. there are a number of people i want to especially thank because they have engaged in some heroic efforts in dealing with this disaster. first of all, governor, thank you so much for your quick response and your outstanding work. mayor glen lewis, the mayor of moore, who has been mayor here before when there was a disaster and because of his strong spirit and sense of community has been able to help lead the community through this disaster. we very much appreciate your work. representative tom cole. not only his congressional district but more importantly this is his hometown. and so, for him this care relationships a special sadness but also a resolve in terms of trying to make sure that the city of moore bounces back. mayor mccornett of oklahoma
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city. a neighbor and friend. we he appreciate him being here. craig fugate is here and we are proud of the work he and his fema team have done. susie pearce superintendent of schools. thank you for your leadership. amy simpson i want to commend, the plaza towers elementary school principal and the briarwood elementary school principal. they were on the ground when this happened and because of their quick response and their keeping a level head and their putting kids first saved a lot of people. and they are still going through some tough times. i can only imagine being their husbands who were here, the panic i'm sure they were feeling when the tornado first struck. but i know that they could not be he prouder of their wives for the
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