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a guy on the miami heat with the tatoos. have you seen this guy? >> i'm bill o'reilly. remember the spin stops right here. we are definitely out for you. >> sean: welcome to hannity. the investigation continues into whether or not the top law enforcement officer lied under oath while testifying before members of congress. the chairman of the hughe house judiciary committee expressing great concern over the testimony. it calls for holder to answer a series of questions regarding his involvement not the justice department probe of fox news correspondent james rosen. it was exactly two weeks ago when the attorney general desighed having any -- denied having any knowledge of any efforts to secretly spy on reporters. you are about to see the portion of holder's testimony that is very much under the
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microscope of congressional investigators. >> with regard to the press, that is not something that i have been involved in, heard of or would think would be a wise policy. >> sean: not only was he involved in spike on fox news he clearly thought it was a wise policy because eric holder signed the is sub pee h subpoea authorizing it. you witnessed the united states attorney general lying under oath to congress. the latest on the investigation into the serious matter. first, earlier today, whose press secretary jay carney was asked about the misleading comments and thinks got heated. >> we know he was involved. that was the question. was he not fell the truth on that? >> involved in what? >> he signed off on the search warrant. >> you're not involved after signing a search warrant?
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>> i would refer you to the justice department. you guys are equating the subpoena with prosecution and i think that it is -- again, i would defer you to what the attorney general said. >> it is a technical accuracy you are holding on to. >> based on what i saw in published reports and what the attorney general said i don't see the conflict. >> sean: he didn't see the conflict the last time the attorney general was caught lying either. this is back in 2011. >> when did you first know about the row gram officially i believe called fast and furious to the best of your knowledge what date? >> i'm not sure of the exact date but i probably heard about it for the first time over the last few weeks. >> sean: that, too, was later discovered to have been a lie. why? because justice department
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documents prove that eric holder was briefed about fast and furious as early as july of 2010. will the embattled attorney general be able to survive the latest scandal or is the issues time as the united states top cop about to come to an end. juan, what he said this is not something i have been involved in heard of or would think would be a wise policy and then he signs the subpoena. is that a lie? >> he didn't sign the subpoena. he signed an affidavit that was sent to a judge that signed the is subpoena. >> sean: i stand corrected. you get my point? >> i understood you. the larger point is this, when eric holder was testifying he was testifying about prosecuting reporters for publishing information regarded as a national security leak and he was not involved with that. he was involved in and i think wrongly so, let me be clear,
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wrongly so in saying that yes, james rosen a life long reporter for a legitimate news organization could be considered potentially a cohe conspirator with the man breaking the law by making away the information from the state department. >> sean: if that is true and you are are saying he was not misleading congress which would be a violation of law. the only other option would be that he intended to prosecute rosen. hang on a second. that would mean that he would have lied to the judge to get the sweeping search warrant. >> no, no. >> sean: yeah, yeah. >> he listed rosen as a coconspirator, po potentially o aided and abetted. >> sean: that is a crime. >> he did that to try to determine whether or not rosen who would use the aliases and secret e-mail accounts was in fact up to anything. the prosecutors were in a bubble and that is why they made this terrible mistake. >> sean: i think it is beyond
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terrible mistake. i want to get michelle malkin's teak on this. >> it is chilling and disturbing and, of course, eric holder lied there. i think i'm willing to pay for a chiropractor for juan because the water buckets he is carrying for the white house are very heavy. i can't be mad at you any more, juan. >> michelle, i'm disappoint. >> look, i will tell you what disappoints me that anybody would be surprised or shocked at the outcome of this thoroughly corrupt justice department led by eric holder who we have known for decades has a history of obstruction. a history of poe politicizing the rule of law and sub verting equal treatment under the law and our constitution to his political ends. we knew it during the nomination process.
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i have always been livid there were 19 senate republicans who ignored the long sordid history that eric holder was responsible for when was a clinton justice department official and sean has talked numerous times. we have who have been watching and doing our jobs as watch dogs because guess what you don't have to be a credentialalled mainstream journalist to do journalism, whether it was the flm or sordid conduct of the attorney general during the new black panther party voting rights sub version case through fast and furious and now with the handling of these dumpster diving episodes in campaigns against james rosen and the associated press how can you possibly defend it, juan? how? >> michelle, let me just say you have gone so far adele here. it is clear you are building a
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conspiracy theory. i'm just going to say go for it. >> i'm giving you facts. >> there is no fact here. what we saw from sean was facts. sean says -- >> dispute one fact i gave you. >> sean shays he lied to the congress. i think he has a point. i don't think he did and here is why. i understand give han you said this is about politics. this is not about anything to do with eric holder violating james rosen's rights. >> sean: let me ask you a question because we are running out of time. >> a political demonization to get holder. >> sean: he testified before the house judiciary committee about fast and furious back in 2011 not that long ago and said i just found out about it the past few weeks and then we he found the documents that showed that he knew at least ten months before the hearing. it proved that he was not telling the truth and that he had to go back after he was caught and say that he gave
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inaccurate information. now, why -- go ahead. >> all that came out, sean, was that there was some letter or something that was sent to him pro forma that you could say did he read it or didn't he read it. >> sean: affidavits. documents. >> eric holder is never responsible for anything with his name on it. >> sean: michelle? >> it is rancid. the search from the top of the heap of the white house and the justice department is so tox existences that 1600 pennsylvania avenue and the justice scalia it tess department should be declared superfund cleanup site are. you need an olefactory specialist because all of america can smell it now. >> i worry about your blood pressure at this point. calm down. if it was a scandal of that magnitude it wouldn't be just you. >> wake up.
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wake up. >> sean: things are getting tough for the attorney general. i don't think he survives and misleading congress is a big deal. he was not honest on two occasions and clear that he misled the congress. i think there will be a lot of ramifications out of this. thanks, guys. >> you're welcome. >> sean: karl rove will break down the political implications of the three scandals. two member of of the house judiciary committee here live with an update on the investigation into whether or not eric holder lied under oath and if he did what would be the consequences. tonight you get to pick the video of the day. log on to hannitylive.foxnews.com. we will show you a a preview of each throughout the show. the winner will run in its entirety later this hour. a sneak peek. do you think this is the video of the day? is this even possible. can a trash truck crush a car. if you want to see how this turns out, cast your vote for this one.
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gentlemen. welcome. congressman frank do you believe eric holder wlid went before congress two weeks ago? >> it appears that he did. on the one hand he said that when he comes to prosecuting information and materials that he had never been involved in it and never heard of it, and that he thought it would be bad policy. yet previously he signed an affidavit regarding mr. rosen saying he thought that this
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prosecution should go before a judge. he's either falsified statements to the judge or information to the congress. there is no way to reconcile two of the those issues. >> juan williams, having a hard time grasping that. if he wasn't a target, he had to lay that case down to the judge. do you believe eric holder lied?. >> he didn't tell the truth. trent and i saw sat in that committee room, listened to the questions and watched mr. holder, it's important to note he talked about potential prosecution and said he hadn't heard of any. and just mentioned this is a copy of the application for that search warrant. it doesn't say they're on a
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fishing ed ped yigs. it says there is there probable cause a crime had been kmitd f they're filing this application someone not only needs to lose a job but license to practice law. if this is true what is in this affidavit, i think we've found the attorney general of the united states was misrepresenting himself to the congressman of the united states. >> so when eric holder says this is not something i was involved in or heard of, he was misrepresenting congress or lying to a judge to get the judge to approve sweeping search warrant. it has to be one or another? >> i think it's something you have to say once in a while on national tv. he articulated i think, perfectly. you know this, is,
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unfortunately there seems to be a pattern here. back when discussing the benghazi case he said he'd released all pertinent e mails and it's had become clear he had not and he pointed out he did not intend to do so. so is there no way both can be true. something again is impossible to reconcile. it almost makes a conservative of miss janet reno. >> sean: that is saying a lot. we know in 2011, documents were uncovered that shed he knew about it 10 months in advance of what he said. my sqe what are the consequences. if anyone watching this tv
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show goes before a judge what will be the consequences for them? >> we have a perfect example when they prosecuted mr. kyoung it wasn't for disclosure of the information i was also because he lied for the fbi. if misrepresenting congress it's time for him to go and time to prosecute him. >> gentlemen, appreciate it and we'll see what happens. karl rove is here and will react to obama's house of scandals. will the president be implicated in the irs enemies debaukus yell? and white house's obsession with attacking little old fox news channel and little old
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>> sean: the obama justice department is targeting of the chief washington correspondent james rose season the latest example of the administration
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disdain for little old fox news. here are are a few examples. anita dunn tried to launch a war against fox news. watch. >> i mean the reality of it is that fox news often operates almost as either the research arm or the communications arm of the republican party. >> sean: that did not go over well but it wasn't just obama's liberallal lies who did his dirty work. the president has also taken swipes at us. here is one example. >> i have one television station entirely devoted to attacking my administration. i mean that is what -- >> i assume you are talking about fox. >> that is a big mega phone. >> that is not all. who can forget when candidate obama took many shots at little old me on the campaign trail. here is just one. >> if this is our next president he will in fact lead not only the democratic party
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but this entire country from a culture of criticism to a culture of recognition. thank you. >> all right, well, that will -- all right. that was pretty good. that was pretty good. that was pretty good. i might have to put mr. burgess on fox news. you know, i'll pit -- i'll put mr. burgess up against sean hannity. he will tear him up. >> sean: was that a threat, mr. president or just a preview of what is to come in terms of our desire to intimidate conservatives? joining me with reaction fox news political analyst kirsten powers. dennis prauger. welcome back to the show. imagine me saying i'm going to
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put so and so against obama. we will tear them up. >> i know, poor sean. >> i miss the attacks. it was great every time they did in. >> in all seriousness what the white house did was complete play depickable and people are starting to see. we had the tapes early on. this started pretty quickly after he was in office. not even quite a year into office that they launched this war on fox news. and the thing that i love about that clip that you showed of him at the beginning is that he says there is this one news -- i have one news station that attacks me all day long. setting aside whether it is true that he is being attacked all day long, it's one. he is complaining that out of all of the media there is one place that allows people to say things about him that he doesn't like. you know, let's get a little perspective. any president would be happy if that was their situation.
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>> sean: that is well said. i felt dennis that he is thin skinned and doesn't want any criticism. he likes the worship that he gets from the rest of the media. >> this is about the president all the time and it is is not personal. he is a man of the left. the left needs a bubble to succeed. if there is one professor at a university who is conservative he is a problem. if there is one form of media that is not liberal, that is a problem. do you know i saw a list of the 200 most prestigious colleges if there is such a thing you can even speak of and not one of the graduation speakers this year was a conservative. not one. they don't want to hear us because they have to live in a hermetically sealed intellectual and moral world to survive. that is why shows like yours
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and talk radio. >> sean: and the blogosphere, too. >> i pointed out what eric holder said talking about james rosen, not something i have been involved in, heard of or would be wise policy and that is targeting journalists. we know that he in fact did. then back to fast and furious. do you think that eric holder lied under oath and do you think there should be ramifications for that? >> if he lied under oath there should be ramifications. i think he should be gone regardless of whether he lied under oath. >> sean: do you think he did, though? >> it is not clear what he was technically saying, if he was saying i signed this warrant but it was to gather information and then we would make a decision after that. that is different. it is not clear to me tech nickally how it played out. >> sean: let me play an ad by
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the rnc. as you put the things together it is beginning to look bad. i want to ask you what you think about this. >> i first learned about it from the same news reports most people learned about this. i think it was on friday. >> what day did you learn? >> the same day the president did. >> correct. >> from news reports. >> correct. >> to who was sponsible. >> i don't have the name, sir. >> i'm not sure what you are asking. >> i don't remember again. >> i'm not there to go ask a set of questions of people what happened when, who and how. >> it is the first we heard of it. >> in one in the white house was aware. >> if this happened on my watch i do not accept responsibilities for all of the actions. >> i did not know any of the details at the time. >> i wouldn't say nobody is saying that or at least suggesting it. >> i would expect. >> with all due respect you were there, though? >> i there was. >> i decided to follow my counsel's advice and not testify for or answer questions today. >> what day did the
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conversation tack place. >> you no comments? >> i would have to try to find them. >> have notes or don't you have notes? >> i don't know. >> i first learned about it from the same news reports. same news reports. >> i have not done anything wrong. >> what i continue to believe is that ultimately the buck stops with me. i'm going to be accountable. >> sean: dennis, where does this end politically? >> well, it is important to note that on a sad note that montage is not going to be seen by "new york times" readers or most other cable news or any other perhaps cable news network and certainly not the mainstream media. we have to understand what we perceive as obviously it is to me morally and politically obvious is not necessarily the case for the rest of the country. the new york times has moved on. the los angeles times has moved on. nbc. abc. cbs have moved on and that is what they are hoping will take
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place. remember, the president has the entire media with him. when the new york times revealed things about our drones and then senator kerry head of the senate foreign relations committee condemned the new york times for a terrible breach of security nothing happened. we have to remember that what we understand is true is not being purveyed as such in the rest of the country. >> sean: good point. kirsten? >> politically i think it will have an impact in terms of beginning up the base of the republican party and could have an impact. i don't think most liberals or democratic based voters are probably following it as closely. >> sean: thank you both. appreciate it. coming up next the architect karl rove here to dismantle the administration outrageous lies regarding the irs targeting of conservatives and react to the controversy regarding eric holder. log on to hannity
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let's make medicare stronger for all of us. >> sean: welcome back to "hannity." from the beginning of the ever-changing stories about the irs enemy list scandal there has been one message that has remained consistent among liberals. watch this. >> irs employees in cincinnati improperly scrutinizing organization by using words like tea party in quotes and
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patriots. >> employees that tax exempt unit of the office in cincinnati abused the trust. >> the apparent conduct by irs officials this cincinnati. >> the exempt organization field office in cincinnati, ohio used inappropriate criteria. >> well, the president doesn't know about everything that is going on in every agency of government. should mr. bangor have known since this was a neighboring district in cincinnati where the irs office is? i don't think you can hold him accountable for what happened in the irs office. >> sean: that is probably george bush's fault, too. the administration wants you to believe they blame the lies on the few rogue irs employees in cincinnati. there is mounting new evidence that proves that top officials at the irs were in fact involved and leads right back to washington, d.c. joining me with reaction, fox news contributor, the architect, karl rove. how are you? >> i wouldn't believe nancy pelosi. what was she saying? that was just ridiculous.
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i have never seen a worse defense of president obama in the ineptitude of this administration than that. >> sean: there was a worse one. bob scrhum on 8 losing presidential campaigns. says this is not nixonian indifference but looks like carterresque income pa tense. if that is the best they have got they are in real trouble? what do you think of that. >> amazing. first a couple of rogue agents in cincinnati. we now know at least five office o the grounds were involve in the active the and probably more and then told it was junior level people and then find out it goes all the way to the the top of the division with lois lerner who shows up and pleads the fist. says something when the head of
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the unit refuses to come clean congress. >> sean: did you notice what i notice today, jay carney has the presser and he says go ask the justice tnk of that? >> well, look, i love the news -- the press briefing today. well, first, on the questionf the irs. do you think that thembers of the irs testifying before congress have given a satisfactory information? they have been responsiveto congress? and carney says yeah, ihink that. and then on holder, i mean i he was asking t question well, holder said this on the 15th that he didn't have anything to do with this a we now know that he did. he had two lines defense. he said you are making a mistake conflating sub pee he that with prosecution. he is saying ignore the
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possibility of prosecution or ignore what was said in the the subpoena. as long as we didn't prosecute him we didn't mean it. in other words, holder lied to a judge and had no intention of treating rosen as a criminal and said that in order to get the subpoena because that was the test to get the subpoena. carney is asked flat out do you see conflict between what holder said in response to congressman hank johnson of georgia on the 15th and the fact that he now turns out to have signed the rosen one and i loved it. carney says "i don't see the conflict." i mean really? what planet are you on? this was -- this is not only nixonian. it was clintonian. a definition of what is lie it. >> sean: you had all of the senators and democratic congress men. durbin and summer and franken wrote letters to the irs saying go investigate the groups.
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now, they are feigning outrage that they actually did what they requested. >> dick durbin went on sunday with chris wallace and he asked him about the letter october 1went after crossroadsi have been associated with. i will say that about dick durbin he is not like schumer and others running away from the letters they said fe ibming surprise that the irs would do what they told him to do. durbin said, of course, i wrote that letter and i'm proud of it. i tell you why i did it because cross roads was racing millions and rove was boasting about it i wanted to pick a conservative group out. wallace said what about the fact that you didn't have any liberal groups in your letter. he said well, i thought if they investigated cross roads all of the groups would get the
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message. sure, the liberal groups would be just laughing. chortling with glee that the irs used to go after a conservative group to do exactly what it they had been doing for decades in conformity i admit with the guidance and rules of the irs. the conservatives began to duplicate with the democrats and liberals had done. >> sean: an interesting point. they were doing it for a long time and without any competition. >> look, in 2007 there was a group called americans united for change that attacked republican senators up for reelection for supporting the surge. one of durbin's own aides bill burton one of your personal favorites started a 501 c 4. and i don't see dick durbin saying to investigate him for forming to elect president obama. it was a use of their power and offices to target conservatives.
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>> sean: a lot of people are speculating where this is going to end up. i think that is the wrong focus. for me, i want to know why they didn't give in benghazi why security requested was denied. why stand down orders were given. why a web of lies was created. on the irs, who ordered this? who allowed this? i want to get to the the truth, in other words. for me it is simple. what is the truth? why are people lying? who is responsible. what do you think politically for republicans how do they handle this? >> they have got to diligently investigate these and patiently lay out the facts and avoid the use of adjectives and adverbs. you and i can do that. sea away from the word of impeachment. a bad thing to say. you and i can hyper ventilate about it. in the committees the american people need to see the republicans patiently going after the attacked and letting the facts determine the outcome and the facts are not going to
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about be pleasant for president obama and the democrats. >> sean: for the record i'm not hyper ventilating. calmly trying to get to the truth. >> exactly, exactly. >> sean: the american people deserve the truth. >> in all three of these. big questions at the heart of each one of these scandals. >> sean: we will read the column in the "wall street journal" tomorrow. thanks for being with us. >> thank you. >> sean: coming up the cohost of the hit show the voice adam levine finds himself in hot water after a hot mike caught him saying "i hate this country." it is all caught on live television. you get to pick the video of the day and we will play it in its entirety. and the winner, we will run the video in its entirety coming up at the end of the show. you hurt my feelings, todd.
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>> sean: welcome back to "hannity." one of the president he's 34069 proval supporters during the 2012 campaign landed himself in a lot of hot water. singer-songwriter cohost of the hit show the voice declared that he hates america on til vision last night. it was picked up you and a microphone for millions to hear while waiting to see which contestants would leave the show. let's watch this. >> only one more artist will join the others for the topic last show. >> i hate this country. >> now, needless to say the country did not appreciate his tasteless remark. he issued a statement which reads in part "i ob obvious isly love my country very much and my comments were made
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purely out of frustration. last night's elimination of judith and sarah was confusing and down right emotional for me and my comments were made based on my personal dissatisfaction with the results. still doesn't make theke the comments okay. nice to see you? you are going to defend it, right? hate america.i hate north >> if anybody hates america it is a lot of conservatives. >> sean: give me an example. what conservative hates america? >> they can't talk about the successes of the job market and housing. all things are up. instead you want to talk about an entertainer he is not a politician who said something under his breath. >> this is something that people were unset about. >> this is what the conservatives are upset about because he should be deported is what people are saying. >> i don't think any one is calling for him to be deported
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seriously. >> do you really think that he hates this country? >> i think it is a unusual comment to make when you are frustrated. when i am frustrated i don't say i hate this country. i might say i hate this job for i hate the people who voted for the con festant. >> you weren't answering my question. do you think that he hates this country? >> i don't know him. >> he gets paid by making records and performing and doing all of these things for for americans. >> i think it was a really foolish remark. i think there are tons of mothers and fathers who lost their lives, sons and daughters fighting for this country. he ought to be proud of this country. i don't think he should have said i hate this country especially over the results of a reality show. >> why do conservatives bring up the war and people have died? of course, we are in a war every day. >> because fema are fighting -- because people are fighting for your rights. >> people died because of the
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first amendment. >> no one is taking away his rights. >> your conservative friends didn't like eminem and they wanted him completely banned from selling records. >> sean: let me educate you. i will challenge you and i have $100 in my pocket if you can name one conservative that hates america because they have disagreements with obama. that is what you said earlier. name one. >> i don't think it is a hatred for the country. >> sean: you said that they hated. hang on. i got a hundred dollar bill right here freshly pinpoint. >> why are we talking about a seth. >> sean: because you said that. >> that is all you talk about is the hey he tread of this administration. >> i don't hate anybody. >> you talk about outrage and typically hear the liberals saying conservatives are outraged about everything, they don't know how to take a joke. >> name one joke that you thought was funny. >> it is not our fault if you don't know how to deliver it. whoever --
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>> like bill maher who called sarah palin a -- >> do you think that is appropriate to call a mother that name? >> i think it is better to be -- >> i actually said that on "hannity's" show one time. you enjoy being called that? you think it is progress? >> first of all, i'm not a mother. second of all, you don't have to personally attack me. >> you did say that. >> in front of millions of people, of course. it has been talked about on other shows and other programs. i don't think -- >> sean: you don't find that offensive to say that? >> i would rather be a milp than a fat loser woman walking around in her -- >> why can't you be both? why can't you be good looking. >> when someone says you are a milf that is not a respectful way to address a person. >> guess what? we can have a difference of opinion and that makes america great. >> sean: i did to to the the bank. that is why i was showing off my hundred dollars.
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day. >> with him on mound is carlos who brought him did as he did on the finish line and brought him here to the pitcher's line to throw out the first pitch. [ applause ] >> sean: perfect strike. as a yankee fan i can say boston strong. he is in our thoughts and
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prayers. great strike. let not your heart be troubled. the news is coming up next. greta van susteren is standing by to go on the record and we will see you back here tomorrow night. >> greta: tonight, how high does it go? >> we are going to do our job on the irs. we are going to do our job on doing our oversight and what we already learned is just chilling. >> stunning new details in the irs scandal. new evidence that targeting of conservative groups was not only more widespread but also included high level officials. >> i see it as the arrogance of big government. >> i have not done anything wrong. >> remember the white house always said this was just rogue agents in cincinnati. but the new evidence shows dozens of letters with a stamped signature by the woman who headed the department in question, lois lerner. >> i have not broken any laws. i have not violated any

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