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iand justice. it is the united states department of justice and he is the head. the top law enforcement officer in the country and this week fury as more are facts come out regarding the attorney general's personal role in what many regard as an unprecedented intrusion on the freedom of the press. criticisms on both seeds of the ail calls for his resignation, his impeachment, his firing. this is "justice." i'm judge jeanine ped irro. thanks for being with us tonight. should eric holder reseen? should he be fired? the president says it is not going to happen. >> the president asked whether he has confidence in the attorney general and he answered in the affirmative. does he still have confidence in his attorney general?
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>> he does, yes. >> judge jeanine: we know the obama administration promotes awards those in lock step with them like susan rice. victoria newland and the pesky benghazi talking points and lois lerner who admittedly doesn't know about math but another truth twister who is taking a summer vacation, folks on our dime because the white house won't go through the trouble of firing her. actually, only the little people get feared or demoted like greg hicks the man who desperately called for military backup in benghazi. what should happen to holder? i have an idea. eric holder should be indicted. the facts. it all started when the department of justice targeted a fox news reporter for sem maniy reporting the throughs -- for simply reporting the news. holder approved spying on him, likening his reporter actions
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to criminal activity and referring to him as an aider and abetor, coconspirator for reporting what an obama staffer told him. a little primer here. there is a long standing principle of american jurisprudence. a fundamental lynchpin of our bill of rights. the first amendment. the freedom of the press. the law is clear, if you want information as a prosecutor like a reporter's phone records and e-mails you give them notice and the two of you go to court and you duke it out. but not eric holder. when asked about this at a congressional hearing, he denied doing any such thing. >> with regard to the potential prosecution of the press for the disclosure of material that is not something that i have ever been involved in, heard of, or would think would be a wise policy. >> judge jeanine: we how to know that was not the truth. and in panic mode holder and
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his boss decide it is time to meet with the press, the very people whose rights they have trampled on. now, eric, they say you feel sorrowful so you invite the press to a tea party most of whom declined your invitation. and at this party you want to talk to them off-the-record just in case you say something you don't want quoted and don't want to be fa accountable for? and so you say so the press can tell you what goodlines there should be when prosecutors investigate journalists. don't you run the world's largest law office, 10,000 lawyers? aren't there 200 years of case law, precedent and legal trestised es on the first amendment? isn't your boss the president a constitutional lawyer? what don't you understand about the first amendment? and you want to meet with the
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press. why? to talk about how prosecutors like you shouldn't be allowed to do what you yourself decided to do. you did it! what? were you having an out of body experience. you did what you now say you shouldn't be allowed to do after you originally denied doing it but when caught you now say hey, i always wanted that media shield law to prevent you from doing it. now, you realize, eric are, you are saying please help me figure out a way to protect you from people like me. you didn't stop yourself. you could have relied on the law. you could have chosen to stop. it is called prosecutorial discretion. i know you know that one. be instead, you go beyond what any administration or attorney general in the history of this country has ever done in an unprecedented seizure of press
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records and you lied about it. this is not iran. this is not north korea. you know he what the guidelines are. that is why you kept judge shopping after two judges refused to go along with an order that would violate the constitution that you swore to uphold. the third time was the charm, you finally found a judge who would agree with your plan. now, you are all talk about an independent judge to review any such applications in the future when you had the nerve to judge shop until you got the right judge. really? i'm not even going to go into the wholesale seizure of the ap records where you said you didn't have to give notice because of national security which we both know is hogwash. it was 2012 and your boss was in the middle of a tight presidential ehe election, the story was about al-qaeda. your boss wanted to trump in his own narrative. we know how that goes but when
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the ap scooped him by one day it was time to target the ap. the fury today is palpable. the cals for a special prosecutor are are deafening but you won't appoint a investigation prosecutor are. you will just investigate yourselves. is which self? the one who says what you say or the one who does what you do? and by the way, you want to know what the press thinks? just read the newspapers. why don't you admit you are trying to make nice with them? what is the point of even meeting with them. they can't change the law. they are not congress. come on! you just want to make some new friends. hey, maybe they will say something nice. after all, the 2014 mid-term elections are coming up and maybe you can influence the press who is now investigating you you. and by the way, eric, some of the press you invited were your targets. have you ever met with the target of a potential criminal investigation?
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i know i wouldn't. no prosecutor worth his or her salt meets with someone he or she is' accused of wrongdoing for a kumbaya moment with tea and crumpets. who knows, maybe this could be a teaching moment. as you said, this is an opportunity for the department to consider how to strike the right balance between the interests of law enforcement and freedom of the press. is any one out there tired of the obama administration's teaching moments? we already knew the consulate in benghazi didn't meet minimum inman standards or the standards of the 1999 accountability review board after the bombing in kenya and tanzania. after the death of ambassador stevens and three other otherss time for another teaching moment with a review board who didn't bother to question its most important witness, the
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person who appointed them. now, we need a teaching moment on media sensitivity? really? you now want to safeguard the media against an overly intrusive prosecutor? what are you going to do, one up the constitution. we have already got a first amendment. how about you stop ignoring it? how about you stop judge shopping. how about you shop patronizing the media that until you now have proven you could have cared less about. how about you stop see vetly and soa, sirisser is repetitiob pee about thatting records. you are a political operative whose actions are unprecedented in the history of this country. this latest scandal is not the first time you disregarded the law. it was your department that cent assault rifles that the
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mexican cartels used to murder innocent civilians and a border patrol and i.c.e. agents. i believe the following is in order. an indictment. one that contains the following charges. count one, perjury for the may 15 statement before the house judiciary that you eric holder know nothing about the potential prosetion of the press, that it is not something you have been involved in when in truth you not only knew the statement was not true you but you actually personally approved the seeking of a warrant for those records. count two. knowingly making a false statement in relation to a matter within the jurisdiction of the legislative branch for that same testimony. although here with an enhanced sentence for obstruction. count three. for your role in fast and furious aiding and abetting a false statement in the letter to the senate judiciary committed dated february 4,
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2012 by your deputy ron white stating unequivocally there was in gun walking and guns sent across the mexican which they admit also was a lie and you had to admit after. >> count four, for your knowledge when you had the awilt to stop the gun running to mexico. count five, perjury for lying to congress that you first heard about fast and furious in late april of 2011 when even a president admits he knew about it before that. count six, conspiracy. allowing for the use of and providing guns to the mexican drugl during a truc trafficking offense in furtherance of a drug conspiracy. i started by saying that the united states department of justice is the citadel of truth in america and it commands respect. it deserves a leader who understands, respects, and
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reveers the law. it deserve a leader who has the integrity, the intellect and the commitment to advance the cause of justice. you have already been held in contempt of congress. the arrow he began, the lies, are the double -- the arrogance, lies, double standards are both embarrassing and beneath us. the american people can no longer afford so many missteps in our citadel of american justice. mr. attorney general, it is time for you to go. we have a great show for you tonight. the obama administration keeps the scandals coming. so many scandals but so little time. we'll talk to congressman trey goudie around later the political enemies targeted by the irs strike back, filing lawsuits. i want to know what you think. tonight's insta-poll, should eric holder be indicted?
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>> judge jeanine: so what should happen to attorney general holder for h his role in the multiple scandals? joining me is south carolina congressman trey goudie who sits on the judiciary and house oversight committee hes and is himself a former federal prosecutor, united states attorney and district attorney. good to see you, congressman, thanks for being with us. >> good to see you, judge. thank you for having me. >> my pleasure. congressman, what should happen to eric holder? >> when i was listening to your opening statement i found myself sitting here not as a congressman but as a former prosecutor with this overarching sense of sadness that the department of justice
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that you so aptly describe as a sit citadel of justice represented by nothing but a lady who wears nothing but a blind fold has been politicized and is the subject of ridicule and scorn and lack of confidence and the top law enforcement position in the country, he is not a prosecutor, he is political psychopad for the progressive movement. politics aside it is sad. i wanted him gone a year ago. judge, we had a chance in november and apparently i failed to persuade enough of our fellow si citizens we needa new top prosecutor. he needs to leave. >> judge jeanine: congressman, you have experience with this attorney general in your role on the house oversight fast and furious. you held him in contempt. not just republicans but democrats as well. and now we have another scandal. and another scandal. what do you say to people who
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say oh, this is nothing but politics? i mean you have honor for the department of justice. i do. i'm in awe of the department of justice and now it has become as you say it is almost a political operative. am i wrong? >> no, you aren't. and when people say it is political i point them to the u.s. attorney in south carolina who is to the left of chairman mau politically. he is to the left of eric holder but doing a phenomenal job because he doesn't politicize the office of the united states attorney in south carolina. he doesn't believe in the death penalty so he doesn't participate in the decision-making. he didn't try to enforce a progressive agenda and that is my frustration with this attorney general. he sues states when it is politically advantageous to him to sue them. the ability to break the immigration laws as a civil and human right which is the the last thing i asked him about. >> judge jeanine: what you are
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talking about now and i than agree with you, those are issues say those are some what political issues and as you and i both know we are not supposed to be political in a position as a chief law enforcement officer but it is worse than that. the guy is lying to congress. he is arguing ec arguing execue privilege when you get too close to things. he doesn't answer. he is dil dill la dilatory ne . >> if you feel compelled to respond you need to respond accurately. and the chairman have written the attorney general which itself has said that the chairman of house judiciary had to write the attorney general and ask him to clarify what appears to certainly be false misleading testimony before a committee of congress and then the naming, the naming of a reporter as an aider and abetor and a co-conspirator both of
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which are criminal charges but yet you don't indict him so you don't give him a forum to clear his name, just m mallign him. >> judge jeanine: congressman gowdy, always good to have you on the show. thanks for being with us. >> yes, ma'am, thank you. >> judge jeanine: 25 groups have filed lawsuits over the irs targeting scandals. we will hear from their lawyer after the break. don't forget to vote in the insta-poll. eric holder should he be indicted. tell me what you think on facebook or tweet me
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>> judge jeanine: the irs targeted the obama administration's political enemies. now, the scope of their target is far beyond what we initially thought. with me is the chief counsel for the american center for law and justice jay sekulow who is representing 25 groups that are suing the irs. he joins us you from nashville. jay, tell us about your lawsuit. >> well, it was filed this past week. there is as you mentioned, judge, 25 plaintiffs. about to be amended early next week and well up to over 35 plaintiffs. a variety of groups. some tea party, some just conservative organizations. lawsuit focuses on three things. number one, ten groups that still do not have exempt status. have not heard from the irs in some cases for over a year. we want those to be given exempt status. we want a
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datory judgment. and an affirmative manda story injunction again continuing acts. >> judge jeanine: i want to stop you there. not all of the audience is lawyers. what you want to do is get some judge to say you were wrong, don't do it again. every time they get caught they lie about it anyway. and now we are finding out it is beyond cincinnati. what good does a judge saying no, no, no. >> you get an injunction which tells them they have to stop. there is penalties if they don't. the government and the agents can be held in contempt. this is way beyond cincinnati. i have a letter from the tax law specialist in washington, d.c. about one of our clients. i have letter from two offices in california. letters signed by lois lerner herself as well as other government officials. so the fact of the matter is that this goes way beyond "rogue agents in a small office in cincinnati" cincinnati, of course, not insignificant itself. the largest processing office for tax exempt applications.
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judge, this is deep. the government here, this is what is so unusual about this case. i litigated a lot of cases for a lot o of years. here you have the government acknowledging wrong doing but you yet not stopping. we received a letter may 6 in our office for one of our client hes again asking intrusive questions that the government has no business asking and this is in the middle of the scandal breaking. so the government has got an ongoing problem here and frankly. >> judge jeanine: real le? >> especially the irs. incapable of fixing it. >> judge jeanine: seems to be the case from one agency, one department to the next. do you remember i think it was the state of the union speech where president obama literally criticized the supreme court judges after the citizens united case saying he was criticizing i think alito was shaking his head or roberts. did you i notice the fact it ws
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at that intersection all of this targeting started of the conservative, tea party, patriot? >> the president may not have issued to the irs saying investigate tea party and conservative groups but if you listen to what the president said not it only in the state of the union but campaigning the last the go around he said the groups were doing things that he didn't like and he thought they shouldn't be doing it. his advocacy organizations that supported the president wanted action. despite the senate democrats protest that what the irs did here was awful it was schumer, durbin and franken that issued a letter to the irs asking for the groups to be investigated. now, they are saying it is horrible what the irs did. they are the ones who asked for it. >> judge jeanine: jay, don't you think this has a chilling effect on conservatives. i have spoken to people who said i don't want to get involved in this. it is like every man or woman's worst nightmare. an audit. a targeted audit to get you and they can if they want to. >> i have a couple of clients that just finally gave up.
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just questions kept coming and they were ridiculous and asking questions about the family political aspirations. these were absurd. the irs never asks legitimate questions they could have asked. the questions were so outside the norm of what would be a normal question during an exemption process you knew this was not some low level agent this was a coordinated effort to silence through a chilling impact which is basically ongoing questions and then the irs would remain silent judge sometimes for six or nine months or withdraw the questions only to be supplanted with a new round of questions just as intimidate. >> judge jeanine: everyone on facebook is agreeing with you on the intimidation stuff and the more they delay the worse it is. jay, always good to see you. thanks for being with us. >> thanks, judge. >> judge jeanine: with a new scandal erupting every few days will the obama administration face any repercussions when the americans head back into the
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the loveable jean stapleton who played edith bunker is dead at the age of 890. i'm harris faulkner. now, back to "justice" with judge jeanine. >> judge jeanine: that was a live shot of the white house. so many scan tal cals and so little time. with the new accusations plaguing the obama administration is the white house in defense mode? with me, democratic strategist ryan clayton from d.c. and republican strategist and my friend fox news contributor tony. thank is for being with us. >> thank you. >> should eric holder be indicted, ryan? >> i think eric holder made a significant mistake here. i'm on the side of the freedom of the press and freedom of receive in in instance and the first amendment protection for journalists just doing their job. they should have the right and ability to have confidential
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conversations with people and to be able to protect sources from political retribution and that is not happening in the case. the people that authorized and sanctioned and participated in violating the constitutional principle of the freedom of press is should be held accountable even if that includes attorney general holder. >> judge jeanine: an interesting approach that you are taking and all three of us probably agree on that. isn't it even worse than that? not just that he went beyond both in the ap case as well as the fox news case beyond what he should have done by claiming one i recuse myself and it was national security and two with rosen he was a criminal coconspirator but he lied to congress. he lied. we know that he was involved and he approved it. >> i agree. there is tragic things that happened in the case. the worst thing that fiel attoy general holder hasn't done is prosecute executives on wall street for crashing the economy. if you want to take something that he is not responsible for doing i would point out that.
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>> he will never prosecute obama donors. >> judge jeanine: i want to hear what you have to say about holder. why do you think obama is hanging on to him? >> i think that they probably have a long-standing relationship. i think in many ways attorney general holder has done the job that the president has asked him to do but i think that the real problem here is that we have a constitution in this country and you have to abide by it no matter what position you are in. and frankly there are other things that have gone on beyond the attorney general that are beyond the pale. they are prosecuting an 82-year-old nun for trespassing a nuclear facility and putting her in jail for decades. >> judge jeanine: seems that the general statement republicans are just focused on defeating obama are based on what you think are constitutional mandates. maybe they are not so wrong. what do you say? >> bravo to ryan on the majority and sum total of his point. everybody who is fair minded and objective and believes in the first amendment understands that the attorney general crossed a lien and used what we
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really refer to as the nuclear option. went after specifically a journalist for doing nothing other than investigating a store review board that he did to the want him to investigate and it was also at fox news. some an organization that many will consider opponents of the president. we know the president does not look at our station very favorably. the fact that the attorney general went to this length has brought people like ryan and jonathan tourly a legal lebron ral scholar and kirsten you powers our own fox news contributor from the left and joe trippi saying he should be held accountable. >> judge jeanine: does this kumbaya, let's have tea and crumpets, what does the media think of him now? >> this isn't soviet russia. we don't spy on journalists in america to shut them up and shut them down. >> judge jeanine: apparently we do. apparently the obama administration and eric holder do spy on people like -- that is why they --
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>> a line has been crossed here and obviously the woman way t o get the government to wise up and realize that you don't cross certain lines is to make certain that people are held accountable for their actions. >> judge jeanine: you agree with my indictment? >> on the perjury charge. one week or two weeks ahead of learning of the james rosen warrant we had the attorney general in front of a congressional committee clearly misleading. that is important to understand. something else that happened this week. a very important are kind of contradiction in the white house. james comey was appointed as the head of the fbi to be the nominee. >> judge jeanine: what a do you want to say? a fantastic guy. let me say this as a matter of course. i know james comey. he is phenomenal and smart and has integrity. >> a man of integrity and ethics and the deputy attorney general under the bush administration opposed the
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warrantless wiretap program. he offered his resignation to protect terrorists. >> talk about what is going to happen with the irs targeting. what do you think is going to happen in the mid term elections based on what is going on with the white house now targeting political enemies? can they possibly win the mid term? >> i think the republicans will have a really hard time picking up any seats. they will probably lose some for. >> judge jeanine: the republicans or the democrats? >> they want to talk about getting america back on track and creating jobs again. they don't want to talk about the scandal laden politics that the republican house is pushing. look back what happened with clinton in the late '90s, the republicans lost seats then, too, for the exact same reason. if they keep this up they will lose a lot of seats. >> ryan probably doesn't like to read fox news polls. the quinnipiac poll showing the
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same trend down yard pore the president not not only on job approval. trustworthiness. americans saying this irs scandal deserves an independent investigation and 53% calling it a scandal. >> that is the goal of the republicans dreaming up the scandals to distract the president from doing his job. >> judge jeanine: what are you saying? >> that is what the republican operatives that dream up the scandals want. they want them to. >> judge jeanine: dreamed them up? i can't believe you said what you just said. are you changing your mind? >> the rest of america is trying to work on putting food on the table and fixing the problems. >> the irs is not a scandal? targeting people for their political organization and their political beliefs is not a real scandal? it is systematic. we know it has been going on for a longer team than they
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admitted. it goes right to the top. people expect in a democracy to serve them properly. >> judge jeanine: thank you for being with us. always spirited. >> thank you. ericdge jeanine: up next, eric holder's offer to meet with journalists off the record didn't go exactly as he planned what is next in the showdown between the administration and the media. don't forget to tell me what you think about attorney general holder should he be indicted? we will read your facebook and twitter messages later in the show ♪ sorry seems to be the hardest word ♪ ♪ with the spark miles card fromapital one, bjorn earns unlimited rewas for his small business take theseags to room 12 please. [ garth ] bjors small busiss earns double miles on every purchase every day. produce delivery. [ bjorn ] just put it on my spark card. [ garth why settle for less? ahh, oh! [ garth ] great businesses deserve limited reward
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i have raised issues with the attorney general who shares my concern so he agree growed to review existing department of justice guidelines governing investigations thatinvolve reporters and he will convene a group of media organizations to hear concerns as pas part of te review. >> judge jeanine: that one didn't work out so well, did it? most wouldn't even show up and demandd that they change the rules. is is the obama administration at war with the media? is a free press even important? let's ask dale ally caller senior contributor matt lewis and washington editor of realclear politics, karl are cannon. thanks for being with us this evening.
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start with that. was there anything about or are first let me start with you, eric. should the -- i'm sorry, karl. should the media have gone to this meeting? >> well, you can argue that either way, judge. some of them didn't. the huffington post didn't. the washington post didn't. ap didn't. excuse me, the washington post did. associated press didn't. the new york times didn't. others went. and we are trained to go where the news is and here is this is the principle, the attorney general going to explain himself finally and also the bureau chiefs had a chance to explain the press' view. your instincts would be for go but you don't want to be compromised either. you are in an awkward position. you are there and it is off-the-record and the reporters ask you and you to go against the rules. it is kind of a mess. >> judge jeanine: what is the point of even being there if it is off the record. that means you can't really quote what he says so why go
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other than he is trying to make nice with you? >> i think that is part of it. if you heard the clip you played of the president, he framed it as a listening tour where the attorney general would be listening to the concerns of the press. and i think carl is right. there is arguments both ways. i think if i were heading a media organization i would say don't go because of the context. i mean here we have a situation where it appears that the white house is trying to lean on the press, possibly intimidate them even and if you agree to go to an off-the-record meeting, i mean it gives the notion of inclusion. in light of of context here it would be inappropriate to go. >> judge jeanine: carl it seems that the press and the obama administration have been resty much in lock step. this is a tremendous schism.
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some press did go and some didn't. how will it work out going forward? what is the relationship with the press? >> the huffington post in its piece said it turned out to be off the recordish. take a step back, judge. with these subpoenas with the attack on james rosen and subpoenas of the secretary of press the justice has done something that you wouldn't have thought possible. everybody on the same page. fox news, huffington post, everybody agrees that they overstepped and that this is -- that you shouldn't be targeting reporters claiming to a federal magistrate that they are criminals for doing investigative reporting. >> judge jeanine: and you know what, matt, is is even worse than that. they not only crossed the line. he lied about it to congress. >> right, i think that is interesting. i would actually make this nuance position which i don't think that he lied to congress
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because the question was, you know, did you ever intend or was it potential to indict a reporter i'm paraphrasing here. i don't think there was. >> judge jeanine: let me tell you why you are long. i'm a d. a. and i was a judge. let me tell you why you are wrong. you don't call someone an aaider and abetor and criminal coconspirator and seek a search warrant and go judge shopping because you want to take him to lunch. you do it because you are in the midst of an investigation for criminal prosecution. when you get caught what you say is we weren't going to indict him then what the hell were you doing? >> i don't want to let him off the hook. i think what he did was arguably just as bad. i think that they called james rosen a co-con spear arconspiry to snoop on him and look into his e-mail. >> judge jeanine: i agree. >> i'm not defending him here. i think that they lied to a
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judge rather than lying to the congress. >> judge jeanine: carl, what do you think of that? are in agreement.'re growment. they were doing that to get the warrant and then turned around and said we never intended to prosecute them. not the necessarily that they weren't lying to congress. >> judge jeanine: it was the affidavit that was the basis of the search warrant that eric holder approved, gentlemen. chilling effect on the media. matt? >> absolutely. i think it is really important for us to put this -- to put it in context because the public doesn't care much about the press. >> judge jeanine: they don't. >> but it matters. they have the right to know and it is the journalists' job to give them the information. >> judge jeanine: you get the last word. gentlemen, thanks for being with us this evening. >> thank you. >> judge jeanine: and coming up next, you will not believe where our creep of the week put
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number of people who said no. but first, the yes about's. a number of people replied like billy. pardon my language judge, but hell, yes. paul tweets we will not have justice until we have truth. jocelyn, i keep asking myself why it is taking so long. a thunderstormal person would have been in -- a normal person would have been in jail ages ago. and robert says well, let's see if you or i did something illegal of this magnitude what do you suppose would happen to us? terry says yes but with the way things work in washington he will be reassigned with a pay raise. and kent says only a liberal democrat would suggest that he would investigate himself. priceless. dale says yes because he demonstrated a serious lack of judgment in fast and furious. now, it seems he is lying or incompetent. makes we wonder what he has done that we are not aware of. and then there is casandra.
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stop it you prejudice people. i get so sick and tired of people wanting president obama's people to step down just because you all don't want blacks to succeed in anything. casandra, it is not about the soller of any one's skin. it is about what of eric holder's mouth and there are a couple of replies waiting for your on my facebook page. and now it is time for our creep of the week. they are precious in need of love and in need of protection. especially by their parents. even animals take care of their young. but it seems no one told that to tyler washington state. the 25-year-old decided his six week old baby was crying too much. hey, tyler, a head's up. babies cry.
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think about that the next time you get in bed with a woman. what does tyler do? instead of trying to calm the baby down he puts her in the freezer. just in case you missed that. he didn't put her in a crib. he didn't put her in a bassinette. he put her in n. the freezer for an hour. finally he took her out. that is when the mother who had no idea what was going on tried to call 911. he then grabs the phone from her. mom ran to a neighbor and called for an ambulance. doctors say the baby's temperature he was down to 84 degrees, she had a broken arm and leg and h head injuries. she is expected to survive but long-term damages are not clear. mr. dirt bag plead not guilty to charges of child assault, criminal mistreatment and interfering with reporting a crime. tyler you are our creep of the week. and when you are convicted and sent to state prison i hope
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"huckabee" starts in ten seconds. . >> is america bordering on becoming a police state? and i have complete confidence in eric holder as attorney general. >> is it time for eric holder to go? >> plus, they came in with 30 swat attired people with automatic weapons. >> the administration's intimidation is not limited to the conservative groups. >> they seize
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