newt gingrich will be here, tomorrow night 10:00 p.m. eastern. go to gretawire right now and tell me what you think about washington. tell us what you think. >> greg: i'm greg gutfeld, bob box, eric boling and dana perino. it's five klk in the new york city. let's keep it short. >> greg: as the irs scandal bucket overflows this period in history could be a watershed moment for all of us. it's the time the american public could step on the neck of big government and kruash it like a soda can. irs saying they weaponized the irs. that is huge. this is politics disguised as governance. it's what progressives do best, fascism with a pretty face.

conservatives can't do it because they are bad at it but the left are instrapable from politics because it's everything. so today, fink turns red over the convention mess. what is more embarrassing the irs has no documentation regarding that. that opens the door for you and me to do the same. we can now say you want receipts? i'll show you mine if you show me yours. few revelations without revolution if every person becomes a political target of a political machine there is no manpower to match that. the one candidate to replace the irs with a fair tax enforced by few rather than many, he or she will win. it's the inverse of obamacare. a subtraction of corruption that enables prosperity rather than a burden of bureaucracy that paralyzes an economy. chickens are coming home to roosted but i banned that

phrase. bob? are you trying to distracted me. >> when they burden of proof, they have an agenda. >> greg: is that because bob ate a lot of prunes. and i want to talk about fink who was commenting on the video today. >> a skilled leader. >> it's spreading across the planet. >> those videos were at the time they were made were an attempt in a well-intentioned way use humor to. they are embarrassing and i regret the fact that they were made. >> greg: dana, as much as i wanted the irs gone, i actually feel bad for the guy. >> dana: the sympathy or empathy you have. >> greg: you have a heart. >> dana: i do.

i don't blame the individuals necessarily. i do blame the system and overseers and i do think the political tone, over decades, that the government is more powerful. irs is the one entity that can bring everybody to their knees. it's kind of fun to make fun of them. you don't audit the trekies left. >> greg: interesting point kimberly. i want to ask you eric, he regrets he was made or regrets he was caught. >> eric: i think he regrets they were made. getting his makeup and ears to play spock. i have no sympathy for them. i don't think they were caught up in the moment. they shouldn't have done it. dana, how many times have we talked about somebody ask you to do something. >> dana: like i don't wear

hats on tv. i did it once and i wore it on kentucky derby and i never done it since. >> eric: they work for a company and these are irs agents that make a living by making your life and my life utter hell. they knock on your door, what did i do. i'll go back five years just because the five years. they can do it with our money is absolutely ludicrous. i see no redeeming value to this. >> dana: just think he had your job and you could wear a tin foil hat. irs agent if he was eric boling -- i don't know. you wore a citi silly hats.

>> greg: so you brought up cummingss. roll some tape of alike gentleman. >> i live in a black community where most people don't make $50,000 a year. yet we can produce a video that has no redeeming value, none. and spend taxpayer's hard-earned dollars for that are tha. >> not only was it a monumental waste of well over $50,000 of taxpayer's money, but i would say it is an insult to the memory of star trek. [ laughter ] >> i could do a better captain kirk. >> greg: she could with that hair. >> bob: dolly parton. >> greg: cummings who is a big time liberal. >> bob: big time fascist according to you.

so far the communist for communist, red sympathizers and now fascist. i happen to think the video is fine. >> of course. >> greg: connecting the dots of a bigger picture. >> bob: it may have cost a little extra money and probably had a friend that was film maker. everybody puts things in conferences. they do a funny video. what is the big deal. >> it's wasteful. you are supposed to be for the poor and downtrodden. you have no problem with these ridiculous star trek videos and line dancing. >> bob: how about the new jet that is wasting billions of dollars that they don't need. >> kimberly: how can you compare defense spending to

a star trek video. the point is americans river. >> so is the rafter. >> they are going jail and these guys are laughing. they were laughing and having a great time. >> bob: we're making so much fun of government waste in this $50,000 video but you don't talk about the wasteful department of the government, $50 million, those $50,000. but $50 million they spent on conferences. >> greg: i want to bring in some more tape. this chaffetz grilling some of members. >> when did you become aware of the massive expense? >> i actually did not become aware of the massive expense. i did not know what the

expense was at the time of the conference that we were paying. i did not know what the expenses were. >> and you are the number two person in that position. you are oblivious of the expenses? >> i was not involved in the planning. >> greg: i like the little card mr. fink, anyway, rat fink. what can he do as americans right now. it seems like a golden opportunity to go after a bloated bureaucracy, clean it out and create something. making star trek joints is pointless if there is no purpose. >> kimberly: enough of the irs. they can't do their own accounting. they didn't keep track of it. they are sorry because they got caught. otherwise as the best time of their life and they were

looking forward to do it next year. they are an albatros on the taxpayer. if you don't pay your taxes you can go to jail. another a minimum they should lose their job. >> bob: there more waste in department of defense and retired generals and started a business. >> why are you picking on generals. >> greg: look over here at this. it's not a defense. what about the american public feel about like this. 68% said they think irs was motivated by that. i'm high. >> 65% of democrats. >> even if they with would be defensive for president obama, they do think government, government in power is too abusive and arrogant.

68%, that is prime opportunity for somebody to do something bold. who president obama appointed to go in he does seem a good things but if you just put people on administrative leave and take the opportunity to do something, you might have wasted more taxpayer in long run. maybe i'm wrong. all these models that have done, the economic growth potential, if you go to a system like that on a fair tax rather than our current tax system, would be good for everybody, young people, old people, hispanics, everybody. >> eric: everybody that is paying taxes right now. those are the ones putting democrats. we don't want to go to a fair tax. zbloob but the other 50% pay the taxes.

anyway, the two irs agents who are accused of being rogue and starting this. correct me if i'm wrong, last i heard they pointed a finger at somebody in washington. a guy name carter hall. here is the question. who told carter hull? once you find, get carter hull, i want to see him in front of the congressional panel saying this is how i came up this myself. >> bob: i say, it's not chairman issa has not released the full transcript of the discussions, the ones of the cincinnati people. he will not release. only one he releases is damning ones and chaffetz, don't get away from the tv camera, you don't have enough expose to your sur. republican leadership is upset with issa and he used

that comment about lying on the sunday shows and act like a mature adult chairman. she accounting more like a hack. >> dana: one thing i noticed, one the articles, he expresses outrage over the videos and he tried to understand them ui at 3:00 a.m. if he is up at 3:00 a.m.. >> greg: he can race "redeye". >> dana: a lot more redeeming than irs videos. >> bob: people pay thousand bucks for the conferences and day or two -- >> where is the outrage about the defense? >> greg: that is lame defense. >> greg: the irs scandal is much bigger than this conference. >> bob: i agree with you.

>> greg: we remember the toilet seats from the pentagon. we all get it. >> bob: much bigger issue, it's about the irs targeting groups. it's a much bigger issue than a silly video. let's get to the point of finding out who do this and take the opportunity to reform the tax code. >> greg: i agree. >> eric: talking about the 50 million they spent. >> greg: they are yelling at me. is the obama administration monitoring your phone calls? white house is under fire for a secret order to allow feds access to millions of americans phone records or important terror tactic debate is next on the five. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ goodnight.

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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ yes, that is great song. >> a newspaper dropped a bombshell that the u.s. government has been collecting millions of american phone records. immediately people said it was invasion of privacy but white house says it is a necessary counter-terrorism tool. i want to show a clip from a march 12th, 2013 hearing that was on capitol hill. >> does the nsa collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of americans? >> no, sir. it does not. not wittingly, there are

cases they could inadvertently collect but not wittingly. >> dana: that was the testimony of ron white of oregon and clapper. bob, first i'll go to kimberly. i want to get bob revved up. kimberly, it's not that the government has done anything illegal, is it? >> kimberly: this is my favorite part the mincing of words when they say they didn't intentionally, but do any of this to specifically target any individual or violate their rights. they do have broad powers. you have to have a check to make sure they are overreaching. what is the purpose for this insult? all i can say it helicopters to have google places, because google put together the data mining

team. >> dana: when you are compelled to turn something over as you mentioned couple weeks ago, you do it. >> eric: they are hiding under the patriot act. they are saying the patriotic act. >> dana: broad powers. >> eric: us if i'm not mistaken and it's been testified you are supposed to be looking for international correspondence, not within the u.s. this is tough one. personally and i've said this before, i don't do anything wrong so i don't care if you snoop on me. i'm worried about government bad guys and a lot of people will be upset. what are they going to do with the data? >> dana: they are not listening into phone calls. they are data mining. the boston bomber they didn't know who it was and american citizen these records may have proved

useful. right before we went to air, they did an editorial page. president obama's dragnet, i'm going to read one piece that says, this is the "new york times" -- the administration has now lost all credibility. mr. obama is proving that zuf will use any power it is given and very likely abuse it. when the "new york times" says it, is it serious? >> bob: i think it's most outrageous examples of the constitution i've heard. they have no right to phone records. they monitored how long the phone conversations take place. they are not on record for anything. this is the government getting into our business that it ought to be out. it is illegal and unconstitutional and deplorable. i didn't like it when they did it during the bush administration. they are looking for methods and intricate things on computers. screw that. the fact of the matter they are listening -- they are

taking my phone records, get your hands off my phone records. you may have eight hundred numbers that i don't want you to know about. they have no right. they have taken the patriot act and they have taken it and abused it and now, you talk about fascism you getting damn close to it. >> dana: i'm glad we waited. that was worth the wait. let me get you in here greg. one of the things is hypocrisy, when president obama when was senator it would never happen. does this bother you at all. >> greg: it's funny if you look at this now, again i look at the context. you have the f.b.i. with boston, doj, the irs, the nsa, we are running out of letters of the alphabet to keep up with the scandals. it's more of a climate of corruption. i predict on sunday susan rice is going to be out on

every show blaming the snooping on mission impossible. i love how the media they never totally condemn obama. if the activity raises eyebrow. you should open an eyebrow. >> dana: one sentence, the administration has lost all credibility. >> eric: josh bush, patriotic act and listening to phone calls from here -- obama, he takes journalists and citizens' phone records. george bush waterboarded three people. >> bob: absolutely wrong. >> eric: obama has done it ten fold. >> bob: they were monitoring a lot of people to see if they could find bad people. i want to see them come

perfect about congress and show me one terrorist that has been caught or one terrorist act that has been stopped and verizon ought to be sued. >> dana: chairman mike rogers said in the last few years this program had thwarted a terrorist attack. he didn't go into detail. i trust the government is doing the right thing on this. >> bob: the government the right to monitor but getting your records -- hundreds of millions for one terrorist act? >> dana: if it was a terrorist attack and killed your son and the government hadn't done everything i could to find out the intel. >> bob: for my son, certainly. do think the government has the right to intrude on our personal lives? no.

what about 9/11. >> bob: people that fought in afghanistan and iraq for our rights and this is stepping on our rights. >> dana: ahead, eric holder admitted on capitol hill today. >> i have not done a perfect job, but i'm always trying to do bettered. >> need. >> he also spoke about the controversy and his answers will -- we'll let you know. ♪ ♪ ♪ hey now ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

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varly scary et. susan rice and i've bin pretty hard on these people. jay carney is just repeated what he was told to say. susan rice was repeating talking points and eric holder is carrying out marching orders. he is confident and they are trying to do their job. they are loyal. and when they are caught they don't back down. >> there some things i want to do, things i want to get done i've discussed with the president. once i have finished that, i'll sit down with him and we'll determine when it's time to make a transition. >> but are not stepping down now? >> no, i have no intention of doing it now. >> eric: when loyalty means bending the truth knowing it's false i say it's time to be loyal to the country and not the president. being loyal to the president seems to be promoted. >> kimberly: he's got himself a mighty fine front

line. they will hold the line. do whatever it takes. they will repeat whatever he wants them to do. there is great reward in that. that is why, i don't think eric holder was worried about resigning or having to step down. he has done too much. he has the confidence of the president. you know, valerie jarret likes him. >> eric: how does it look. get you promoted from the circumstances. >> dana: 49% of the country that doesn't like the administration anyway it looks bad. if you are a democrat -- i shouldn't put words in bob's mouth but elder statesman, you might be saying this is not such a good idea. but a die-hard fan, like you heard the staffer in the rose garden yesterday the appointments were a big, you know what to republicans, that is not a good way to staff your white house. president obama said he wanted a team of rivals.

all the reporters that are supporting the people that are the loyalties to president obama they said negative things about rice and rove in the bush administration. >> eric: president obama said he was going to extend his hand across the aisle. >> bob: i covered teddy roosevelt's election. [ laughter ] >> bob: i don't know of a single president that does not surround himself with people that are loyal to him. it's most ridiculous concept to suggest that he surrounded people he felt comfortable with him, it's exactly what you should be doing. >> greg: that is not the point. it's about the governance versus ideological. he has great eye for talent. he is up there with huffington post and generals. they come straight from ago

deem yeah. we have to stop focus on the people. you have to focus on the corruption and structure. you have to bring down the structure. the left circle of expertise is as wide as toilet seat. its revolving door of revolting people. >> eric: i didn't see every person but when it entails susan rice repeating talking points she knows is false or eric holder or jay carney being called a paid liar. >> kimberly: hello, liar, liar. can i make a point about some of the appointments he's made. the two of the others. chuck hagel of the defense department. he didn't campaign for president obama. then he just had an f.b.i. appointment who is a republican guy. i think that it's unfair to tag him as only having people that are yes people

all around him. >> bob: blatant indictment of all the people around him. let's take them one by one, why do they think liars or anti-government. susan rice. she is pulitzer prize winner. >> greg: obama won the noble prize. >> eric: i have no knowledge and i haven't heard, eric holder. he signed it. >> bob: that's right. >> eric: how many do you need? >> you have the white house staff with a lot of people. >> you take all these people and susan rice talking points and eric holder and jay carney. what about jay carney? >> jay carney said we didn't save the talking points. we changed one word. there were 12 page of edit.

>> untrue. >> bob: it's so easy to indict all the people in sweeping statements you make and it's unfair to the people of there. we showed pictures of people highlighted misstialtsd, whatever you want to call them at all. >> bob: did you say that about tim donaghy, who could you say that about? >> eric: we have to go. we're running out of time. a reporter who set on to cover a crime becomes a victim. >> a simple question and this is the response we get. >> that is just the beginning and what happened next. you'll see moments from now. ♪ ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> kimberly: reporters cover jobs and sometimes it's dangerous. a reporter in providence, rhode island, looking for a comment from a 16-year-old shooting victim and she and her cameraman got this. >> are you going to throw rocks? >> first comes the rocks. >> barely missing and we think the interview is over and we're about to leave, instead. lawrence comes out wielding a baseball bat. >> get away from me. >> then she second her two dogs on us -- sicked her

two dogs on us. >> finally she calls her dogs back, but not before cursing at us one last time. >> get away from my house. >> okay. safe inside the studio, sometimes. and she was arrested and charged with two counts of felony assault with a dangerous weapon. she got a tetanus shot for one of the bites. that is why you are get a murder prosecution if you use a dog to try and create bodily injury or harm that could kill someone. they kill people because the dog's capabilities, one bite they could kill somebody. they are upset, charged with felony, do you think it's the right call?

>> dana: yes, i think it's the right call. this is tough one. obviously the mother that threw the rock, i can't imagine what she is going through. i try to put myself in her shoes and anger and frustration. she wants privacy. >> the child is shot has been released from the hospital. >> eric: you can't insult people. you can be ticked off and yell and racial slurs if you want to do that, but you can't throw rocks. people do that all the time. we'll talk about that later. >> bob: having that incident happened to me several times. >> greg: i apologize. >> bob: and both dogs should be put down. i hope they were. this woman coming out with a baseball bat. i'm sorry that her daughter got shot. a baseball bat could kill people and she should serve

time. >> eric: you can't put the dogs down. >> bob: who gives the dogs a hearing. >> kimberly: that is just the law. >> greg: my idea for a show. dog lawyers. >> kimberly: i got one minute left. let's take a look and we have anchors gone wild. >> and okay. we'll try harder next time. thanks so much. i understand you have good news and possibly something. >> it comes with the question, it's just you and the halo. that was an interesting. i'm sure she regrets about the nice glass of whatever. >> kimberly: you seem

interested. >> greg: i wish all news was like that. it's aren't take. i think they like each other. you make fun of people you like. they were having a good time. >> kimberly: they don't seem to like one another. >> dana: it's like a joke. it's like their shtick. >> kimberly: you don't mind it. >> dana: i don't think they are very funny. >> eric: good thing we get along so perfectly all the time. we don't have any wars. this is one of topics you have to be really careful with. >> bob: can you imagine dating either one of those? >> and can you think about that. >> bob: they don't like each other get rid of one of them. i don't care.

>> eric: you said put the dogs down. >> bob: i'm in that kind of mood. >> kimberly: okay, when we come back. [ laughter ] >> kimberly: the decision that may have cost one florida women the biggest solo jackpot of all time in powerball bonanza, stay with us. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

>>. >> eric: an 84-year-old woman has won the powerball lottery. we love you grandma. we were just coming to see you. we didn't know! >> bob: now, it's been figured out that 84-year-old gloria mckenzie zi came out to to claim the largest solo jackpot. a lump-sum payment of $389 million big ones. this the story behind her winning ticket.

>> -- she says a woman let her cut in line on may 18. that was hindi of some town -- and so what about her nice gesture. >> she says that she was the other player. instead of being bitter, she happy for mckenzie and happy that her ten-year-old daughter mallory who was with her in that line learned a valuable lesson. >>. >> bob: first thing that hits me, 84 old where he is going to spend $380 million. nice gesture but she should give her some money. the other thing have you ever stood in line of coupon older people and you just want to get them

going. >> greg: she is spending all her money on ribbon candy. >> bob: don't you think she could give some money to that woman? >> she is not obligated to but not legally obligated but i bet her family doesn't want it. >> doesn't the woman have to pay taxes, 390 and is paying the taxes. we don't know what the numbers were would have picked, right? >> eric: she will pay tax lump sum that brings it around to $250 million. unless there was a fair tax she could have the money and give it away. >> greg: and most impressive is winning the lottery at 84. where were you when i was 35? >> there is a reason not to

smoke. you can win the lottery and. >> greg: she is going to see all these relatives she never knew. >> bob: smoking is bad thing. it's vastly overrated. she smokes and she got to be 84. >> i am so glad to be out of here. what next? ♪ note noted. ♪

♪ ♪ ♪ >> greg: time for one more thing. >> kimberly: awesome. new research suggests that women, of course, can remember faces better than men and part of it they spend time looking at someone's face and studying it. do you remember those features can enhance your memory and make you more

incredible. >> bob: men look at people differently. it. >> eric: it says men are better drivers than women. >> kimberly: actually it's nowhere in this study. >> eric: it says men are better drivers. >> kimberly: that is beckel institute. >> greg: we're not talking about your hot wheels or big wheels, i'm sorry. [ laughter ] >> what do you think. >> deneen: wanted to --. >> kimberly: you are worse than bob today. >> dana: i had something very important to talk about. that is very sad news. i used to live in washington, d.c. the whole time i lived there was on capitol hill and there a great hardware

store called kregers and they had everything you could possibly want. it burned down. it was most bipartisan place on capitol hill. there is a fund for the employees there so they get back up on their feet. give forward do the com. >> bob: another piece of bad news for me this week. let me say, one more thing how pleasure this week. i won't be here with you tomorrow because i'm going to psychiatric institute. bob, hurry up. and a stamp to one of the great, great country singers a guy by the name of johnny cash. folsom prison blues i was in the audience. >> when he played there.

>> bob: yes, but johnny cash deserves a stamp. god bless you. you are a wonderful human being. with that, with you and f.b.i. and rest of them. >> kimberly: country music fest in nashville. you're going, aren't you? >> eric: and "a" block irs and "e" block that won the lotto and jay leno is going to do it. >> how much tax are you going to pay on the $590 million, irs says too soon to tell because she doesn't know whether he is a republican or democrat. it will take a while to figure that out. [ laughter ] >> greg: jay is being cut loose. i'm hose contingent o'reilly tomorrow. watch that if you dare.

>> dana: i'm not going to be here tomorrow. bob and i will not be welcome to "red eye." it is like "america's got talent" if by america you mean greg and talent you mean worm. what is coming up on tonight's show? >> our top story, the nsa is secretly collecting all telephone data from all verizon customers. can you fear me now? and residents of cambridge, massachusetts can't understand how their perfect progressive city could have been the home to the alleged boston marathon bombers. we will try to explain it. and is major league baseball about to suspend 18 players for performance enhanced drug use? >> thank you. >> you don't care.