finals. >> harris: awesome, thanks so much for stopping by. fox report, we love having you. i'm harris faulkner and updates on the man that claims to be nsa leaker. now huckabee. >> tonight on huckabee. >> i'm extraordinary proud, my new national security advisor. >> cover-up, blew up. >> obama administration rewarding good soldiers that tow the company line and calling those that call out corruption as enemies of the state. >> not only are they losing their jobs and livelihood and income, they are actually facing jail time. >> government whistleblowers on why they risk everything to reveal the truth. >> i could not stand by and simply be an eyewitness to diversion of our own constitution.

[ applause ] >> mike: thank you very much. welcome to huckabee. what is happening to america? dishonesty is being rewarded by those that are truthful and are being punished. i want to introduce you to high school sunday sr from north carolina and he was in school he forgot his unloaded shotgun in his truck after he went shooting the previous weekend. nobody else knew about it. he wanted to do the right thing. he called his mother, drove to the school and take the shotguns home. someone overheard his phone call, he was arrested and charged with a felony. then dropped to misdemeanor. cole, it's great having you

here. i'm stunned. how shocked were you that you got in trouble with trying to do the right thing? >> governor, i just don't understand what i would have done to not get in trouble. the situation i was in, there was nothing that run through my mind to not get in trouble. >> mike: i understand this kept from you being able to graduate with your classmates. has anyone from the school apologizedhappened? >> i mean, the principal and the superintendent, they said it was an unfortunate situation and that they hated it happened but they really haven't apologized and they don't know of anything they could have done differently. >> do you regret telling the truth? do you regret trying to do the right thing? because you got in a lot of

trouble. you got suspended from school, you got charged with a crime that could follow you the rest of your life. you didn't get to graduate with your fellow students. they can never give that back boy, i was a chump? that back >> people told me i should have went to my truck and straight when i found outou and left and not told a sole.it i don't regret telling thed truth because it got me a scholarship dr. falwell. [ applause ] >> mike: congratulations on y your future. all us are shocked on what happened. hopefully people will do the right thiangd long term effect turns out quite well.th thanks for joining usan today. >> thank you, absolutely. [ applause ] >> mike: okay let me make sure i got this right.go a young man who has never been in think trouble

accidentally forgets that h the car. when he thinks about it.do he doesn't keep his mouth m shut.be he calls his mother to come and retrieve it from his om so he can fulfill the letter and spirit of the o law that is why he did it. for that he is severely punished. i think he ought to be rewarded to have that good relationship with his parents. [ laughter ] >> mike: maybe i shouldn'tre be surprised. you see i don't evene recognize my country anymore. we punish that which weor should honor and we honor that which we should avoid. [ applause ] >> mike: the irs has acted criminally in the persecution of pro israel or tea party groups the lady charged withs overseeing the application. president had praise fored

people that trashed streets and shut down small businesses but contempt for tea party groups that cleanat up after their own rallies and use restrooms like civilized human beings. eric holder spies on the a.p. and james remove sen for receiving leakeddl nothing when the c.i.a.ia director leaks classified information to the producer of the movie zero dark 30. president was willing to send in seals risked their b lives to kill osama bin laden but never helped there cries of americans that in benghazi. we saw photos of the bin laden raid but nobody can find out where he was the night of benghazi. kroontd they snap the picture. then the from germany theyre were granted asylum in our country and holder wants them deported.

that same attorney generalch sees nothing wrong with 11 million illegal immigrants t given a path to the government refuses to call nidal hassan a terrorist even after he a murdered 14 unarmedol soldiers in a definite tear yeah.ts but it treats me by spying on phone calls andd electronic strip searching me every time i get on an airplane. president obama thinks a 12-year-old is old enough to get morning-after pills.er but a 26-year-old is child enough to need obamacare. o rights of people that never broken the law and it was aoo good idea to give thousands of guns to mexican drugun dealers that kills border agents. p president wants to close gitmo because the conditions are not niceo enough but orders drones to

vaporize american citizens abroad that haven't been e charged with a crime.l he calls an n.b.a. player and congratulates him for saying he is homosexual. he never has called tim tebow and thanking him for being a christian. >> the government sent in n armed s.w.a.t. teams and treated workers at gibson guitars like drug dealers because they used the same wood as martin guitars. gibson ceo gave money toon republicans and martin's ceo gave money to president obama. o is it just me or something has gone horribly wrong in america. i think it's time to stand up, speak up and say we won't put up with this anymore. [ applause ] >> mike: if you agree i hope you will let me know. [ applause ]

>> mike: this week the president faces the administration benghazis scandal to be his national h securityis advisor.c is he is the right pick for such a critical position? maybe it's time for me to take the hot a seat. clinton's campaign and fox news contribute jehmu greene and the host of stand up radio show petei dominic. let's take about the susan rice appointment. good choice for the president to make? >> of course. he is a good choice becauseca primarily she is one his closest advisors. governor huckabee, let's go back and imagine a huckabee administration. >> i have. [ laughter ]

>> you would have been making the decisions s someone who is a skilledat diplomat. you almost said democrat.st said >> but someone that has a close and trusted relationship with like he has with six years with ambassador rice. that is what his choice was in this woman. i think when we get past g all the conspiracy aroundou benghazi the american people will see the role she played ander accomplishments at the u.n.. this is ants incredible selection for the president. >> mike: one thing youg said this publicly, i don't necessarily blame susan rice for the talking points and all of the talk show appearances after benghaziar because she was the one b person who really didn'trs know anything. they gave her a script and a she went and read it. people that should have gone was hillary clinton,

david petraeus, leon panetta, they did not and in fact s it turned out she was trotted out there. susan rice, goodic appointment? >> i think so. it's hard to know exactly what makes the bests national security advisor.se i think when you look past some ofeh the past people including condoleezza rice.e, a lot of that relationship is about trust.t president has to have someone he can really trust. with a lot of qualifications, she worked in the nsa. she has ph.d. and she is intelligent. most people including yourro audience didn't hear susansu rice until the benghazi thing you admit yourself don't blame her for it. i would throw it back to you, why isn't he is qualified and how do you important is it that he chooses at the pleasure ofre the president someone you

really trust. >> mike: ikn get that. let's talk about trust. can we trust the government now knowing that they had access to all of our phoneey records and computer records and everything. r i want to play a clip.an this is senator obama 2005. >> if someone wants to know why their own government has decided to go on a fishing expedition throught every personal record or private document to thea library books you read, the emails that you have sent, phone calls you made this legislation give no right to appeal the need for suche a search in a court of law. c no judge will hear your plea, no jury will hear your case. this is just plain wrong. >> mike: it was wrong in 2005, is it still wrong? >> with those remarks heno said that what he knows

now.s back in '70s the supreme court we don't have a right to privacy for our phone records. this isd not something new. a lost stuff that have bubbled up this past week the government is, responsible for protecting us. yes, it's surveillance something we should be concerned about. absolutely, but when it isei checked by the other branches of government peerdz. g >> mike: are- you okay with all this? >> notth at all.t? i don't find this liberal, conservative divide. this is privacy security. where do you fall down on that. they admitted using thatha helped them thwart a terrorist attack. what are you more concernedbo about. terrorist attack and that is what americans have toas ask themselves. it matters. it's not so easy there. it's wiretapping, it'sin emails, cameras everywheres.

in your studio, you have five cameras but everybody in the y audience has a camera too, governor. we have to decided what kind. of society he want toiety be and whether or not weth will be protecting by this orot not. >> mike: here is my problem, we say we wanted to be safe but what are we protecting against. we are protecting againsto terrorist. if we give up our freedom. >> if you think you are going to die in terrorist attack versus a heart attack you have been duped. the government need this much information on us. is it even constitutionallyut appropriate for the government to invade this level of our privacy. we have to leave it there because our time is gone. they are patriots, they refuse to be silent.us tell the truth. former government workers that have enough corruption

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[ applause ] >> during the transition after being elected as president, barack obama's website spelled out the agenda on protection of whistleblowers. often the best source of information about waste, fraud and abuse in government is existing government employee committed to public integrity and willing to speak out. such acts of courage and patriotism which can sometimes save lives and often save taxpayer dollars should be encouraged rather than stifled. my next guest were not encouraged when they tried to expose abuse in

government. they got fired. they were treated as criminals. thomas drake is a former executive of the national security agency. he was charged under the espionage act after he blew the whistle on illegal activity. and former ethics advisor to the department of justice, she is also a whistleblower. she is now the national security and human rights director at the government accountability project a leading whistleblower organization. thanks both for being here. thomas, let me start with you. when the news broke that the agency you used to work for, the nsa, was spying on its own citizens and collecting massive amounts of data, everything from phone calls and photos we take on our iphones and everything, you were not surprised? >> no, it's become routine. we have a systemic institutionalized surveillance system.

>> mike: we're told nobody is looking at that stuff. how confident are you? can they look at it if they wanted to one day? >> yes. because they've collected it. >> mike: it's collected and stored. i wonder what mike huckabee has been doing. they can do that? >> extremely tempting to do everything about you, index of your digital life. >> mike: who can keep someone going and looking at those files? >> there are no controls at all. any other controls they talk about are all in secret. there they are not available for public review or debated. >> mike: you blew the whistle nsa and charged with espionage. president said you should be a hero. you should be rewarded for that. >> he said that in 2008 campaign platform, then

campaign platform boasted about whistle-blowers they had gone after more so than all other administrations combined. >> mike: how has it affected you, obviously has it lost your job? >> turned it upside-down. >> mike: how long were you with nsa. i resigned in 2008, first job back in 9/11. >> mike: for a guy that blew the whistle, tell me reward. >> you are blacklisted. you can't find a job in the government because they charged you with espionage. >> mike: you advised the justice department in john walker lindh taliban case. you thought his rights were being abused. did it get you applause from your superiors? >> at first they agreed with my analysis initially. any american who is subject

to that. >> mike: you had advised because he had counsel that any interrogation had to require that his counsel be present? >> exactly. >> mike: i learned that in sifx class in ninth grade. you said was his counsel present when he was interrogated? >> no, on friday i came in on monday and then the criminal section told me, oops. f.b.i. interrogated him anyway and at that point i advised interrogation information needed to be sealed. they were welcome to use it for national security and intelligence gathering but not for criminal prosecution. they used it for criminal p>> mike: you objected to that and what happened? >> i discovered there was a court order for all department correspondence related to the interrogation. when i went to check the

file, all the emails i wrote it had been purged. >> mike: so evidence in essence was destroyed? >> that would be evidence and it disappeared. i resurrected it from my computer archives and wrote a memo to my boss. i attached it and i said i had no idea why this was not around. i took home -- i gave it to my boss. i said i don't know what is going on. i am not going to be a part of it. i took a copy in case it disappeared. >> mike: when we come back the washington culture of rewarding those for helping cover of the scandals. you won't believe it. stay with us, we'll be right back. humans. even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. which is why at liberty mutual insurance,

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[ applause ] >> mike: federal government has ruined the lives that blew the whistle and rewarding those trying to cover it up. vincent was a special agent with the atf. he was one who exposed the fast and furious operation that sold guns to criminals in mexico. the former number two boss at atf todd jones helped cover up the scandal. he has been nominated by the scandal to direct the agency and has a confirmation hearing scheduled later this month. vincent, this is remarkable stunning story. you blew the whistle on fast and furious when it happened. were you thanked for telling the truth and coming forward and explaining what a horrible fiasco this was? >> there was many that came forward in concert with my actions hoping to change the culture in the bureau and stop the culture of

fear and intimidation along the lines, everyone had been pushed and suffered great personal and professional damages. it continues to this day. >> mike: you have been a career guy with the atf. you are still on the payroll, is that correct? >> that is correct. >> mike: they haven't gotten rid of you but what do they have you doing for them now? >> they haven't gotten rid of me not through the lack of trying. currently i'm assigned as senior operations offer for the san francisco field division performing the duties from my residence while the government fights the government over the outcome of the proposed actions they've tried to take against me. >> mike: they did fire you at one time and realize they didn't have any basis and reinstated you but they have you basically doing nothing.

is that correct? >> that is absolutely correct. i'm sitting and waiting for lawyers to figure out how they are going to back out of this situation. >> mike: vincent, i think about this. taxpayers are paying your salary atf doesn't want you to do anything and they probably don't want you to talk to me on national television. you risked your career. you had a good career. i've read things about you from peers. you are one of the best, fearless agents ttatf had. what has done to your career and life? >> it's devastated me personally. my family, that is the point i want to make. it's not just the agents or people who step forward who try to correct or right the wrongs. the families suffer.

friends, it's this whole failure of accountability that is just mindboggling and how the attorneys and government supports this kind of conduct. i don't know how they expect to change fear and reprisal when they continue doing it. >> mike: todd jones was a supervisor and now up to be the head of atf. president has a lot of confidence in him. should we be concerned that here is a guy that knew about fast and furious, according to many sources including you, help cover it up. now, he is going to lead the agency? >> it's not just that issue. i mean he came in at the end of it. clearly he was the end of the mess, but more important what he has done since acting director. in the amplified fear of retaliation and the issues that have continued to this day that the attacks on

agents. they are going to trial in his case on monday. they have more ample evidence of unethical conduct and there is no fail safe. government attorneys that were supposed to be the fail safe or second set of eyes are continuing to protect corruption and mismanagement. it's not going to change as long as these managers never face accountability. >> mike: you were an attorney in the department of justice. how shocked when you hear about his own situation? >> since i have been a whistleblower attorney i'm not shocked at all. it's quite typical you are forced from your job, your security clearance is pulled. often you are referred for a mental examination. then you are no longer pulling in income and at the same time you are racking up legal fees because you've probably

gotten a lawyer or some people like vince are transferred to what we call the paper cup stacking position in your office. you are doing nothing and still on the government payroll. i've represented people that have been in that situation for years. it does resign your life. it does completely derail your career, they need security clearance in order to work for the government. >> mike: stay with us. because the widespread corruption, it's not limited to the federal government. coming up we'll talk to a local public executive who speaks out on being admonished for hiring white people. that is next. [ applause ] e verizon share everything plan for small business

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relations board of district of columbia. he resigned in protest he says because board members repeatedly urged that white and right of center applicants not be hired. andre, i'm delighted to have you here. you quit because you thought things were happening that just weren't right. tell me what happened at the agency that you just decided was more than you want to be a part of. >> well, on november the 8th, 2012, at a meeting at the agency, several board members said things i found offensive. one of the things i should refrain from hiring white attorneys and fill those positions and i should refrain from hiring a person who they deemed

right of center or conservative, a female erin and i should not hire her. i said that was illegal and unconstitutional and i would not do that. i tendered my resignation at that time. >> mike: it's shocking. i want to give you an opportunity to respond because the board has issued a statement the current board action has been on his refusal to comply with the law. at no time the s there anything to the contrary not to the unproven allegations of discrimination. i would like to respond to, with a you were the one doing illegal things. >> governor, what is important here what they don't say. they never denied that the statements were made. i provided you with the smoking gun.

the december 19th2012 memo written by agency's counsel, they represent the board. i was head of the agency but she didn't represent me. then her memo, she advised the board what they were doing was illegal and they had to cease and desist. if you look at one portion of the memo, it's impermissible to discriminate against people because of their political affiliation. that the board could not retaliate against me for refusing to oppose their discriminatory practices or directives of not hiring white males. >> you know, this sort of goes in-sync what we've been hearing coming out of the irs. there were targeted efforts to people that had a political viewpoint.

do we need to be worried as american citizens at all levels, even federal levels the rights and concerns of people are being stomped all over? >> we think of this as being a local problem, but article one, section 8 of the u.s. constitution gives congress complete authority over washington, d.c. its federal territory. it's not a state. so your federal tax dollars are going to washington, d.c. via congress. those tax dollars are being wasted on discriminatory practices. >> mike: ondray stay with us. when we come back, we'll talk about just how big this is, why you ought to be concerned about it. and what i can do about it. stay with us. [ male announcer ] what do you get when you take

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♪ [ applause ] >> mike: we are back with those that literally risk their lives to tell the truth about the government. what happens when people like you, like thomas and others tell your story? >> i think if you say anything or push any idea that the administration doesn't like or if you embarrass the administration or god help you if you explosion the crime in administration, will you become the enemy. you will be part of it and likely subject to an espionage charge as have

been my clients like tom drake. >> mike: when you spoke out at nsa, that cost your job and indictment. obviously those that let go the information. "washington post" and u.k. guardian didn't get it on their own. somebody gave it to them. so your former colleagues who had enough? >> yes. >> mike: what can we expect? are more people going to stand up, this is out of control? >> i would hope so. we need maximum disclosure in a government and constitution is protecting. we can't endure if we have a government out of control and hammering people for simply telling the truth and standing up what is right and the law. [ applause ] >> mike: i agree with you. one of the things that becomes apparent. it's not what you said and what you have told, but

why. i want to get to that. why did you go public? why did you tell the story a expose things that you thought were wrong? >> primarily because it had gotten out of control and become institutional, widespread and a practice rather than the exception to the rule. it became the way of doing business. i want to know where you got the atf playbook. everything she stated occurred in her situation or client's situation has happened to me. it's standard practice. attack those making the allegations. the actual people involved in the fast and furious oversight, they have been pass turd. they are going to their families. brian is never going home to his family. >> mike: the ones that went along that didn't blow the

whistle who didn't corroborate the evidence they have all been promoted. all have better jobs. they moved up the ladder and not down the ladish. only people that were punished something is going wrong here. i think that is very important for us to point out. ondray, you left your position and you walked away from a good job. tell me what is going to happen, your future? with a are your job prospects in light of taking this action and speaking out so boldly? >> we'll see what happens. i'm less concerned about my job prospects and more concerned about offering protection to my former employees who i hired and are really good workers and great americans. they shouldn't be discriminated against because they are white or right of center or happen to be conservative. i'm an officer of the court. i'm a lawyer. it doesn't sit well with me,

i couldn't accept that. >> mike: i think all of you are heroes. there are a lot of ways to be heroes. sometimes it's taking up arms and wearing a uniform. god knows how i appreciate our military but willing to stand up against your own government when you think they are wrong, you become a hero. obviously if you had stayed quiet, gone along, you could have gotten along and probably been promoted. you wouldn't be sitting here today. you would have been enjoying nice weekend with your families for shutting up. but if people like you don't speak up, we're not talking about the loss of jobs. we are talking about the loss of this great republic and everything we hold dear. that for which we send soldiers to fight. if they are not fighting for freedom and fighting for a government that treats us all the same then why are we sending them? i want to thank you for being here.

god knows we need more like you. [ applause ] >> thank you, governor. >> mike: we all say thank you. coming up, israeli singer this will be performing a medley. nice way to end the program. hey. they're coming. yeah. british. later. sorry. ok...four words... scarecrow in the wind... a baboon... monkey? hot stew saturday!? ronny: hey jimmy, how happy are folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico? jimmy: happier than paul revere with a cell phone. ronny: why not? anncr: get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more.

>> mike: all right. >> he has performed for president bill clinton, the queen of england and at some of the world's most famous concert halls including sydney opera house and madison square garden. he was the lead in les mis on broadway. he stopped earlier. the obvious question i have to

ask, how did you get the name dudu? >> i was once walking in jerusalem with my grandfather. you know jerusalem has 70 names, 7-0. it is called mariah zion, the city of david, the city of gold. i asked my grandfather, how come jerusalem has so many names. well, you know, when you love somebody you give it a nickname. god loves jerusalem. so god gave jerusalem 70 names. your grandmother and i love you so much so we gave you the name dudu instead of david which is my real name. they call me dudu. they didn't know what dudu was going to mean in america of course. i think it's a name to remember. >> you have the distinction of being the only person who has ever been given permission to be off on the friday evening and saturday matinee performances on broadway through many many years

of playing jean val jean of les mis. how come your faith was so important you were willing to risk your career to take that stand? >> it is something you are born with and you are living with all your life, and even though show business and religion doesnn't hand in hand together still for me, my family, my religion, my being jewish as they say more than we kept the sabbath, the sabbath kept the jewish people together. i did sacrifice a lot but i am very, very -- i am fine with myself. i feel very, very good about it. >> you are going to do a medley from fiddler on the roof. you go to it. much. >> mike: do do fisher are from fiddler on the roof. ♪ if i were a rich man ♪ all day long i'll he fiddle

diddle dumb ♪ ♪ i wouldn't have to work ♪ all day long i'll fiddle fiddle dum ♪ ♪ if i were a little biddle rich ♪ ♪ walking just as noisily as they can ♪ ♪ and all as if to say here lives a wealthy man ♪ ♪ just a little girl like mary ♪ ♪ is this the little boy at play ♪ ♪ i don't remember growing

older ♪ sunrise sunset ♪ ♪ seed lings turn overnight to sunflowers, blossoming even as we gaze ♪ ♪ sunrise, sunset one season following another ♪ ♪ laden with happiness and tears ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ ♪ how much more can we be joyful even when there is nothing to be joyful for ♪ ♪ to life to life ♪ to life ♪ it gives you something to think about ♪ ♪ something to drink about ♪ to life >> mike: thanks to >> thank you to dudu fisher. hope you enjoyed it as much as i have. i know you want to get his music. if you were in our audience tonight you would be going home with it. all of our studio audience would believing wie will be leaving w

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>> welcome to the special studio audience edition of "hannity". tonight we are joined by a group of great americans most of whom have been unfairly targeted by the irs because of their association with various cons serve tive organizations. you are going to hear their stories and attorneys representing their groups. one of the most fascinating things to watch over the past few weeks has been the ever changing time line of who knew what, when and where about the irs scandal. at first nobody seemed to know anything about it. but as the days go by that seems to be evolving quite a bit. watch this. >> can you give us assurances the ir is are not targeting particular groups based on political leanings? >> i