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>> brian: i might adopt one. >> steve: also in the after the show show, julia dale is going to be performing live if we can talk her into something. >> brian: yes. >> gretchen: log on. see you tomorrow. bill: fox news alert. the nsa whistleblower reportedly dishe pearing from his hotel in hong kong. good morning. another day of this. i'm bill hemmer. welcome to america's newsroom. this 29-year-old computer whiz, considered an enemy of the state and the subject of an international manhunt. snowden revealed ... some
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lawmakers are denouncing him as a traitor. others believe he's a hero. bill: peter doocy starts our coverage. does the white house have any idea where snowden went? >> reporter: if they to, they are not telling us. the latest word is this is an 0 ongoing investigation so they don't want to comment on where this whistleblower is. all the white house will really say is that president obama is okay with the conversation about intelligence programming. >> he believes is entirely appropriate to debate these matters as we find the appropriate balance between tour national security and our privacy interests. he made clear you cannot have 100% security and privacy or zero inconvenience.
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>> reporter: more than 44,000 people have already signed a petition to pardon edward snowden. but the white house says they are not going to comment on that unless 100,000 people put their names on it. >> we were told all members of congress were aware of this. now we hear law make percent on the hill are getting a briefing. what do we make of that and what are they saying before that briefing? >> a revealing piece of information from republican senator susan collins says she was never briefed on prison even though she was a top republican on the senate homeland security committee for years. now one of her colleagues is trying to put his 0 opposition to -- his opposition to price i am in a historical context. >> this is what our founding fathers fought over. they objected to general
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warrants. so the british soldiers couldn't go house to house. now they are going to every house of every american. >> reporter: every member of congress is invited to a briefing today and the senate will have a similar briefing. bill: the reaction to snowden is about as polarizing as you can find. civil libertarians are comparing him to daniel ellsberg, the man who leerked the pentagon papers. martha: what kind of information is the government getting. it's called meta data, that's data about your data.
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in general it's a record of to whom you speak not exactly what's being said. so the lines are blurry. the nsa is able to collect the phone numbers and the serial numbers. they can tell the time and length of time of those phone calls. if you are using a phone call where you were when you made that call. it's lots and lots of numbers. web searches. who you e-mail also collected there but not the content of those e-mails. it's source to source without the a number. according to edward snowden it's happening every day. where is that government storing the information. it's 5 times the size of a capital that can hold a yottabyte of data.
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how big is that? it's about the size of 1,000 years all internet traffic. martha: it isn't just that the nsa has access to your personal information. you can tell google a ton about yourself every time you search online. >> if you have something you don't want anyone to know maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place. but if you need that kind of privacy. the reality is that search engines including google do retain this information for some time. martha: could not information be used for political purposes?
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>> reporter: we have the public assurance of companies like google and people like eric schmidt will only be used for benign, an lit cal purposes. that's the public assurance'e here is what we do know. eric schmidt, executive chairman of google did indeed organize the data processing boiler room that helped re-elect president obama. he was in that boiler room on the night of that election. he invested in the team that will work on other democrat campaigns. we know eric schmidt him $self personally maxed out his contributions to president obama's reelection effort. $30,000 and $800 to the dnc, $5,000 to obama or victory. google was number three on the list of donor organizations to
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the campaign. $801,000. do we trust eric schmidt and going toll use the information which they do have available in a benign non-political fashion? that's the open question of the day. martha: isn't this just market research of the life we live in? it used to be in you order a cat rolling then you are -- if you ordered a catalog you ended up on other lists. short of become an internet hermit you don't have any privacy where this is concerned. >> reporter: once you start electronic communication you have no privacy. that we know. the question about abuse is this. there is a potential for abuys of that information which is stored somewhere. will that potential be realized. now, they are publicly assuring
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us there will be no abuse. but we learned from the irs scandal, maybe there was some abuse. that's what's got everybody nervous about the privacy aspect and eric schmidt's role in president obama's cam opinion and future campaigns. >> you will have to work hard to protect this information. >> reporter: put it in a letter. it's the most private form of communication. stuart, thank you very much. bill: new developments in the fight over the morning after pill. plan b will be available for anyone, no matter how old they are, no prescription required. the fda will allow plan b to be sold without a prescription pore
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without age or point of sale prescriptions. dr. manny alvarez joins us with some thoughts on that. martha: nelson mandelas relatives are gathered at his bedside as the former south african president faces his fourth day in the hospital. he's 94 years old. we are learning that he remains in serious but stable condition at this hour. gregg palkot joins us live. what's the latest on this morning. >> reporter: in the past half-hour we got that statement from president zuma's office. what we have been hearing the last couple days. nell stop mandela remains in a serious and stable condition. he goes on to say he met with a medical team treating nelson mandela. he's satisfied with what they are doing and he has no plans at the moment to visit nelson
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mandela. he doesn't feel like he has to rush to the bedside. but he is suffering from this recurring lung infection from his long years in prison. and there have been reports that the situation is even worse than that. but no specifics on exactly what's going on inside there, martha. martha: what an incredible life he has led. he's so larger than life for the people of south africa. what is the mood in his home country. >> reporter: this is the time he has been in the hospital the last 7 months. the feeling is this is grave. we have seen emotional, passionate scenes, school children writing messages on rocks they laid in front of his house. the feeling is this man behind the modern south africa is now
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getting ready to pass from the scene. so resignation to some degree and hope to some degree and a lot of strong emotions for this man much beloved. martha: gregg, thank you very much. bill: nelson mandela, father of that country. what a day that will be. we are just getting rolling. 11 minutes past the hour. the case closed on the irs matter? oh, yeah? as more conservative groups come forward is this just the beginning? an attorney representing two dozen of those groups joins us live. martha: this man, traitor or hero? should the nsa leaker be praised or punished? a fair and balanced debate you won't want to miss. >> i'm no different from anybody
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else. i don't have special skills. i'm just another guy who sits there day to day in the office and watches what's happening and goes this is something that's not our place to decide.
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bill: traitor or hero. speaker of the house making it clear what he thinks of snowden. he's a traitor. the president outlined these were fornlts national security programs to keep americans safe and fight the terrorist threat we face. the disclosure of this information puts americans at risk. it shows our adversaries what our capabilities are. and it's a giant violation of the law. bill: that was from earlier today.
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ladies, good morning to both of you. strong words there. do you get the feeling that the government is just on auto pilot. we are just flying on behalf of instruments and nobody is sitting in the come pit. every -- in the cockpit? traitor or hero? >> i'm not dropping the "t" bomb on him. i'll reserve a little bit of judgment until we find out more about these guys. all of them will have their stories. but i do rememberrate the revelations that the government is not going to adhere to, this seems beyond what even the patriot act aloud and smells of a general warrant. bill: you are mushy on the category. what i think is interesting we'll find out more about yes was in hong kong. why he ran where he did and we'll see how that plays out.
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bill: i'll play another clip from the interview. kirsten are you dropping the "t" bomb? >> definitely not. i find it offensive john boehner thinks around traitor if you think your government is accountableo the people. he wouldn't have had to leak this information if the government had been open and honest about what they are doing. this stuff about we are tipping off the terrorists. there is no terrorist so stupid to think we are not watching their communications. what was classified stayed classified. he didn't leak every piece of information he could have. bill: apparently the headline is we'll learn more. i want you to carefully listen to the language he uses in the interview. some people believe he's a smart and cagey 29-year-old kid who
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never graduated from high school. other people like brit hume saying he isn't carrying a lot of credibility. >> the entire intelligence communities, the locations of every station, what their missions are and so forth. if i had just wanted to harm the u.s., you could shut down the surveillance system in an afternoon. but that's not my intention. i think for anyone making that's argument they need to think if they were in my position and you live a privileged life. you are living in hawaii in paradise and making a ton of money. what would it take to make you leave everything behind? the greatest fear i have regarding the outcome for america of these disclosures is nothing will change. that's his biggest fear.
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how do you hear that? >> i hope a few of his claims are self-agra-agrandizing. unfortunately all of this is secret and not accountable to everybody. not even everyone on the hill, members of congress are saying we don't know the story on this. finding out how many people have access to this is part of the discussion. bill: 1.2 million americans have top security clearance. kirsten what do you think about the comment we just heard from snowden. giving it all up to let people know. >> we don't know a lot about this guy. i'm sure things will come out about him by people who want to smear him. they will find everything they
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possibly to be make him look like a bad person. but whether he's a saint or terrible person is beside the point. the point is he has given us information we didn't have otherwise and he started a debate that needs to be had in this country about what kind of surveillance state we want to have. more facts are coming out and we can decide. i personally resent the fact that the president didn't feel obligated, especially after all he talked about in the campaign about these things to let us know what's going on. it seems like most people are comfortable with it. bill: to a degree. this is a poll done by "washington post" abc news. in 2002. should the government be able to monitor everyone's e-mail to try to prevent possible terrorism. 45% said yes in 2002 and the
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same number in 2013. but 52 pennsylvania is say nooo -- * but 52% say no in 2013. >> you still could be wrong and it could be people don't understand the ramifications of this. which is how long do they keep the data. in 10 years can they go back and make a case against you. bill: ladies, thanks to both of you. martha: the top democrat on the house overtight committee says he's ready to declare the irs targeting investigation over. but more people are lining up to you the agency saying they were singled out because of their politics. bill: you're selectiopolitics.bl
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bill: got breaking news. richmond * virginia, after a threat by telephone was being serious enough to track wait the terminals. that situation is ongoing. it evacuated the terminal. five inbound planes were allowed to planned but all the traffic has been put at a standstill. hartsfield, international, atlanta within this fist one of the largest if not the largest airport in the world. crews are working on the scene of an even explosion in a maintenance shed.
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they have -- there was an explosion in a maintenance shed. we do not know why. martha: we have the department georgdefendantgeorge zimmerman. it is day two of the jury selection process. they said they needed more time. phil keating is live in sanford, florida. a bit of a slow start yet, we understand. >> reporter: attorneys questioned four potential jurors by the end of the day. we are hearing the critical weeding out of this 500-person
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jury pool in that yesterday's group of 100 potential jurors were sent home. only 3 per ordered back to return by the judge for disaster well as another group of 100 brand-new jurors. revealed yesterday in court. massive pretrial publicity the past 15 months has clearly had an effect. everyone questioned knew of this case. indications are a fair and impartial jury is seatable. >> all i know from what i heard from other people that there was fault on both sides as far as what i could see. bill report first thing the jurors do when they get to the courthouse is fill out a throng questionnaire. everybody who says they made up their mind and formed an opinion. they are not invited back into
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the courtroom on questioned by the attorneys. all of them said they knew of this case but each one said they could keep a clear and open and fair mind. martha: the defense had a bit of a change yesterday in terms of cell phone video that was found on trayvon martin cell phones. bill: this has been redacted. the attorney more george zimmerman released it. this is cell phone video taken from trayvon martin's phone camera. that went out for days. actually it shows trayvon martin videotaping two homeless people fighting over a bike. but you can hear what appears to be trayvon martin's fight. >> i'm going to see.
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he coming for that [bleep]. >> reporter: in court the continuing questioning of potential jurors is underway. this is a man, b-7. we have had three women and two men. martha: thank you very much. we'll see you later. bill: we'll talk to his brother in the next hour or two in our studio here in new york. the fallout from the wicked weather as we go to our fox extreme weather center. martha: here is a big question. is president obama continuing the same policies and expanding on the policies of president bush? the same techniques he railed against when he ran for president? >> i want to you go through every single one of them. if they are unconstitutional.
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if they are encroaching own civil liberties unnecessarily we are going to overturn them.
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martha: the white house rejects the idea the white house is expanding the anti-terrorism policies he criticized president bush for. >> if you look at the distinction between how that fight was engaged in the
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previous administration and how it's engaged now you will find he lived up to those promises and kept those promises and made those changes in every case. in every case this president's policy has been different. martha: carney mentioned ending the warner act and working to close guantanamo bay which has not happened yet. but they say they are work towards that goal. we are joined by ambassador bolton who served as ambassador to the u.n. under president bush. >> he says in every case it's different. and that's obviously not true. i guess what disturbs me about the carney approach and indeed the white house approach constantly trying to distinguish itself in every respect from the bush administration is how unpresidential it is. how undignified it is.
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i understand administrations differ from their predecessors. but the answer is in national security we pursued the nag altd interest. -- we pursue the national interest. the world did not begin when barack obama was inaugurated. history did not start on that day. and the issue that every piece of national security is partisan is unpresidential. martha: i want to look at a response by tweet. >> when i'm president i'm going to call in my attorney general and say to him or her i want you to review every executive order issue offed by george bush whether it relates to warnless wire taps or detaining people or reading e-mails or whatever it is. martha: let's look at ary
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fleischer's tweet. drone strikes, wire taps, gitmo, o is carrying out bush's 4th term yet he attacked bush for violating constitution. hash tag hypocrisy. he felt history would judge him but he wasn't afraid to stand and say we have this program because we are trying to protect the american people. i suppose one could argue that's what president obama said essentially when he came out. >> i don't think he has given us an articulation of why he expanded these program. one of the disturbing aspects of the presidency is he doesn't understand what it means to -- he has to run the executive
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branch. he ought to be out in public soon and maybe he will be there. he ought to be defending the decisions he made on these nsa activities. he ought to be explaining to the american people why in his administration and he concluded our collective national security justified what he was doing. and where has he been? he's in the tall grass somewhere. i think it's a dereliction of duty but not untypical of much of what he has done. martha: it feels like of all the issues the white house is dealing with, this is one where you have the opportunity to presidential and say this is why i endorse this program and think it's a good thing to do. lastly on this nsa issue. do you agree with the idea it has gone further than what the bush administration did and it's an expansion on those powers? >> it's an expansion but it's a logical expansion and it's based since 2008 on statutory
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authority that the bush administration didn't have. that's why those on the right who cite size obama as if he dreamed it up don't realize not only do you have the executive branch signing off on this, you have got congress which authorized it and has been briefed periodically since then and you have got the fisa court which consists of article 3 judges who approve warrants. those jose the constitution is being violated, what other branch do you propose to create to protect us? martha: it raises the question about with why it's so classified. ambassador, thank you very much. good to receive you. we'll see you next time. bill: the market has been open for 7 1/2 minutes.
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the bank of japan did something that was not too pleasing. japan is feeling the pressure china. we'll see. still 15,000 for the dow 30. >> a top democrat saying the irs situation is involved and we should move on. lois learner still getting paid to do her job and stay home for the summer. we still don't know who it was in the cincinnati office who was behind all that targeting and who signed off on it ultimately in washington, d.c. so is it over in your mind? bill: another scandal threatening the administration. soliciting possible city cutes in public and how the state department allegedly tried to cover it all up. i don't make any decisions about who to hire
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i have to say i agree with this. i think we need to do everything we can to discourage text and driving. i think it's a bigger problem than drunk driving. bill: the got governor of new york, if you get caught text and driving the, 5 points on your license. and it goes on for years on your insurance costs. martha: there needs on more serious penalties to get us past it. bill: case closed. that's the arm from the top democrat in the irs matter. >> if it was solved we would know who these two infamous rogue agents are in cincinnati and lois lerner wouldn't need to plead the fifth. this is the same agency charged with enforcing obama-care. that's why it's so critical we get to the bottom of this and
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it's so critical we topped stop them from having any part in obama-care and stop the legislation all together. every string you pull on this unravels something new. bill: a dozen groups filing suit against the irs. i understand a lot of other groups have signed on with you as well. there is an irs manager in cincinnati according to our fox stays named john schaeffer. he describes himself as a conservative republican. he says the white house was not behind the scrutiny of these tax exempt groups, he says he was the one who asked washington to get involved. what do you know about this claim? >> it may well be one agent, this particular manager pulled the file -- a manager is a high-ranking official within the irs. but the reality is it went to
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washington. i think what's being ignored here by some saying like elijah cummings at this is over. when it went to wash it wasn't atlantaed by just a group of agents. it was handle by tax law specialists. carter hall and others within main irs at the treasury buildinbuildin washington, d.c.y asked for cases to be bundled up and shipped to washington. this idea that it may have been pulled with one agent who had a tech calculation sphris question. and the manager then said i'm going to send this to washington, that's not an unusual thing. if you when washington got it, that's when the problem started. they are the ones that came up with the list of questions. bill: to be fair and balanced. that's the one thing. this another irs worker by the
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name of gary murks ser. he said he was told that washington, d.c. want sod cases. if you take both of their store stories i don't think we yet know. >> we don't. but there was a be on the lookout list that came from washington. one group manager pulled a file and sent it to washington. everything is pointing to washington, d.c. we know as you mentioned that lois lerner took the fifth health. amendment. bill: carter hall, the attorney you just mentioned, we didn't know his name until the end of last week. you want to ask these folks some questions, don't you? >> we have others we'll want to
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ask questions as well. we listed in the lawsuit 10 unknowns. we don't know how deep or wide this has gone. the connection is deep. if this was just a local agent, where are the two rogue agents? they don't exist. this got to washington early on and washington took control of this and washington created the list. it's washington, d.c.'s main irs that will be paying the consequences. bill: you think elijah coming is wrong. our fox polling shows the obama administration involved in the irs targeting. did they know and not initiate in 37% believe that. >> it many going to be the same basic charges. we are writing two other kowrnlts. that's a constitutional challenge. the inspector general noted that
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the agents charged with determining exempt status did not understand the regs. a constitutional challenge will be add on that one. we don't have the information on this but we are work it. there was information about these clients leaks to other agencies or departments which was a violation of the internal revenue code. we have been contacted by close to 100 organizations of expecting another 15-20 to be added to the lawsuit. there are 400 on the be on the lookout list. the irs is coming up with an apology a day. not document -- i laugh about that one. if if i was representing a corporate client than the didn't have $5 million worth of receipts. iouldn't take the reduction. there is a lot going on here that doesn't even tip the
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iceberg. martha: do you trust your government with all of your information? bill o'reilly will join us and weigh in on that. >> possible fade caught on camera. part after dangerous storm system sweeping across the east coast. look at that, coming across florida.
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it was very painful situation. the rash was on my right hip, going all the way down my leg. i'm very athletic and i swim in the ocean. shingles forced me out of the water. the doctor asked me
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"did you have chickenpox when you were a child?" the pain level was so high, it became unbearable. bill: from turkey the unrest gets more intense by the day. protesters clash with police. officers firing water and teargas forcing demonstrators out of the square in istanbul. a violent police crackdown on a peaceful sit-in back in may.
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martha: back at home the weather is a concern. a possible tornado caught on camera in baltimore. flooding is also a big concern in parts of the northeast. there is the scene in delaware after powerful thunderstorms packed dangerous winds in that area. >> i could feel the wind getting powerful and i hid inside the closet. just praying. just praying that everyone would be all right. >> it was over. just debris and stuff everywhere. it had to be forceful to knock down 50, 60-foot tall trees, roots and everything. martha: what a spring it has been. maria joins us live with answers to that.
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>> reporter: june is an active month in terms of severe weather with damaging winds, hail and tornadic activity. we did see a lot of activity yesterday in terms of damaging winds. you can see that across parts of the carolinas as far west as tennessee, kentucky and the baltimore area where you have the funnel cloud. as you mentioned the national weather service will be heading out and serving the damage working to confirm whether those were actual tornadoes that touched down. 7 reported tornadoes including areas in tennessee. some areas more than 4 inches. we are looking at that rain moving through parts of the northeast today. then we'll talk about another storm system impacting the plains the next couple days. martha: thank you very much.
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bill: a stunning report of allegations of soliciting prostitutes and the effort to allegedly cover that up. martha: the jury selection continues in the george zimmerman trial. >> is there anything you regret? do you regret getting out of the car to follow trayvon that night? >> no, sir. >> do you regret you had a gun that night? >> no, sir. >> do you feel you wouldn't be here for this interview if you didn't have that gun? >> you feel you would not be here? >> i feel it was all god's plan and for me to second gets or judge it ...
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martha: a stunning report and potential scandal. an internal investigation into the state department says higher-ups may have blocked criminal investigation into their employees all of whom work under secretary of state hillary clinton. bill: the cases include allegations that members of former secretary of state hillary clinton's security detail hired prostitutes while traveling on trips out of country and a sitting u.s. ambassador also solicited sex in a public park. martha: james rosen joins us live with more. the ambassador is speaking out this morning.
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who is he and what's his story? what's he saying? >> reporter: we are talking about howard gutman, the yait top diplomat in -- the united states top diplomat in belgium. according to this internal memo, and agent from the inspectorcias division determined ambassador gutman routinely ditched his protective security detail to solicit sexual favors from prostitutes and minor children. the agents were well aware of the behavior. now gutman is speaking out saying i'm angered and saddened by the baseless allegations that appeared in the press. it's devastating. he continues. i live on a beautiful park in brussels that you walk through to get to many locations.
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at no point have i engaged in improper activity. this october memo further alleged under secretary of state patrick kennedy personally intervened to halt the probe. but the special agent running the investigation provided kennedy with a detailed memo on the matter. in our reporting on gutman's case fox news did not name him because the allegations about prostitutes and pedophilia cannot be independently verified and they still haven't. martha: this memo also named hillary clinton's senior aides as stepping in fronts this investigation to stop it or sloift down. >> reporter: we are talking about a separate investigation. cheryl mills who was chief of staff to secretary of state hillary clinton intervened to block the spes investigations
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division interrogating a diplomat in iraq who was said to be sharing information with his mistress. >> all these cases are being looked into. they were in the process of being looked into prior to the memo. and i don't have any update on status. but i can say broadly that we vigorously pursue ... >> reporter: the state department's office of the inspector general listed 8 cases that were supposedly disrupted because of undue influence from seniors near this building. martha: there is a lot more to learn in this story. bill: this is not the first time security agents have been accused of sexual misconduct. in april of 2012, 13 secret
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service agents were involved with 20 women they took back to their hotel. 8 employees were forced out as a result of that scandal. martha: we have a fox news alert. we have the latest on the nsa whistleblower or leaker. his name is edward snowden. he disappeared from his hong kong hotel room. he was staying in a luxury hotel. he's not there now. he may have more classified information with him on the agency's surveillance program. the rest of this story could be coming out very soon. >> he's a rational, smart, intelligent person who made this choice with full recognition of what he was bringing upon himself. i don't feel sorry for him. i'm not concerned things are going to happen to him that he didn't anticipate.
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he's fully ready for whatever is coming his way. martha: what else is in those papers he has. coming up we'll get a live report from our intelligence correspondent catherine herridge. she has the latest on this. stick around. >> reporter: there are new developments in the fight over the plan b morning after pill. the federal government dropping a lawsuit that would have placed an age restwriks on over-the-counter contraception pills. >> reporter: the obama administration agreed to comply with the judge's order to allow anyone to buy emergency contraception without a prescription. the fda has told the pill's manufacturer to submit a new drug application with proposed labeling that would quote permit it to be sold without a
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prescription or without age or point of sale prescriptions. the fda would quickly approve the application once received. it is stirring a debate for those for and against it. pro-choice advocates say it's huge for birth control. it will be available on store shelves like condoms and women of all ages will be able to get it quickly to prevent unintended pregnancy. pro life groups are concerned about plan b being made available to young girls. they are saying this is a dangerous about-face by the obama administration. this decision endangers young girls by pro moving the protection that comes along with doctors and parents.
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the administration asked the judge to suspend the effect of his ruling. but he declined, leading to this decision. this all started in 2011 when health and human resources secretary kathleen sebelius overruled the fda in allowing over-the-counter sales. bill: an ambitious immigration bill being debated in the house. speaker john boehner's support is necessary. he said there is a good chance the bill could be signed into law about it end of this year but stresses all the that hinges on whether the senate is willing to take a tougher stance on border security. here is the house speaker. i've got concerns about the senate bill in the area of border security and internal enforcement of the system. i'm concerned it doesn't go far
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enough. >> if it goes farther are you prepared to sign on to a bill that has a clear path for citizenship for those in the country illegally? >> i'm trying to create an environment in the house where members from both part why its can continue to work together. if i would expect a house bill would be to the right of where the senate is. >> what's the most important thing you will get done this year? >> i think immigration reform is probably at the top of that list. >> signed into law? >> i think by the end of the law we could have a bill. >> one that passes the house and senate and signed by the president? >> no question. bill: the senate set to cast its first vote on whether to move forward with this bill later this afternoon. it's going to be critical when it comes to the house. we'll see how immigration fares in the coming weeks.
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bill: we have breaking news from a company known as booz allen. it's a company the government uses for security matters. they had a former employee named edward snowden. booz allen confirming snowden was employed and how much money he made. he made $122,000 a year. he said booze and was terminated june 10 -- snowden was terminated june 10, 2013 for violations of the firm's code of ethics and firm policy. mike barrack, 35 minute ago. do you know how many americans have top-secret clearance to government secrets today? this number will astound you. baker is on that 35 minutes
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away. martha: there is new criticism recent scandals are moving the obama administration can't be trusted to keep politics out of government. the idealist wants credit for ending the war wielgt alleged prag ma 50s wants to keep a surveillance apparatus. thathat raises an issue of credibility. bill o'reilly is with us. there is "killing lincoln," out on dvd and blu-ray and. "kennedy's last days." this is a big issue in terms of the credibility at the white house and somebody being in charge. it feels like there is so much going on that they are spinning
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their wheels and they are not trying to get the cart righted. >> the president better get out in front of this now. it's scanda scan. what you get from the president is nothing. we'll get to the bottom of that. so he better start. now we have four activity scandals and that can take him down because he can't govern anymore because nobody is listening to him because they are paying attention to the scandals. he better wise up fast. martha: it started with benghazi. i remember that moment when he said we'll find the people who did this and they will be brought to justice. >> why these things happen. why they didn't respond quicker to saving the ambassador.
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why they put out ambassador rice to say something false. believe me, president obama knows. he just went say. that's what's going to bring him down. he's got to start to level with the folks. martha: you studied history and a lot about the presidency and leadership and lincoln and kennedy. this president is never running for office again. he has a lot piled up on him at this moment. he could try to rights above it and show leadership, he could say things have happened on my watch that i'm not happy about but i'm going to turn this ship around. where is that speech? the great speech giver is in need of a great speech. >> it's beyond a speech. i think he has to go out there and tell everybody what happened in benghazi, then he has to tell everybody with happened at the irs. then he has to tell us why the
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attorney general hasn't resigned after signing off on the rosen situation. can he do all of that with certainty? certainly he can do benghazi. they know, but he won't. he can say the irs did xy and z because the irs already admitted it. surely he can fire holder. martha: i don't think that's going to happen. >> then president obama is going down in history as u.s. grant. a scandal-ridden president. martha: it seems this issue is one he could get his arms around. how do you feel about that data center? >> i don't know what they are doing? here is what we know. we know what they are doing. they are warehousing phone calls but not taping a calls. that's all right with me. it's on the edge. but it's constitutional.
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we know president busht younger ordered foreign eachs be read by the ns sarks, but not e-mails from americans. this whistleblower says they are taking e-mails from americans and warehousing them. we don't know if that's true. but you know who knows? president obama knows. is it true or not. go out and tell everybody if it's true or not. now you are starting to see even the liberal supporters of president obama getting nervous because they can't defend them anymore. martha: i think we have a rasmussen poll then we have nbc. is the federal government a protector or threat to individual rights? that's an incredible question. 56% say the government is a threat to their individual rights.
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>> it's really something what's going on here. i don't know if president obama is going to turn it around or not. i just don't know. martha: in terms of the big picture, in terms of the protection of your rights. you have always been suspicious about social media. are we in a world where we just need to accept -- i have this theory the future hermit is going to be someone who decides they are not going to be on any internet. they are just going to be completely free of all of that to protect their privacy. bill: you can't do in you are in commerce but privacy rights are being obliterated all over the world. the irs did things that were illegal. are they going to be prosecuted? we have a government that's simply not doing what it should to protect the folks. so we are exposed. all of us on the social meade why are exposed to blackmail, to out of context stuff and it's
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vicious and getting worse. martha: we are just beginning to learn some of what we think happened here and it looks like perhaps people might have been protecting hillary clinton from some of what was going felon her department. cheryl mills' name came up again. what questions do you want to know about that? >> this could for pea dough ambassador clinton -- this could torpedo ambassador clinton's election. martha: she claims that memo never got to her desk. >> if you begin the two, she is done. but the media, they are slow on report this stuff. but it's another whistleblower. we haven't seen any evidence yet. but again are we ever going to see the evidence? we'll get to the bottom of it in
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2025. martha: bill, thank you very much. which book should people buy for father's day? >> "keep it pithy." get the urchins involved with history. because they don't know anything. "kennedy's last days" is for 9-4-year-olds. great book. bill: the problem with you, o'reilly is you aren't working hard enough. happy father's day. martha: you don't have to get involved with that. bill: the nsa whistleblower check out of his hotel room in hong kong. viewers have been asking about that mammoth facility in utah. what are they doing there with your information.
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phone records, telephone numbers into a number for a specific geographic location over a specific period of time. so, for example, one of the figures in the document is a 3 billion meta data records in the united states in a one-month time period, bill. bill: we have questions about the nsa facility out in utah. we are hearing the agency may use to store the tate a for millions of americans, for a time, that is uncertain. the center is more than a million square feet in size. you have been there and seen it yourself. that bring us to bya. a lot of questions p questions from vires. does anyone know who authorized the co construction of the utah building? what us authorized by the u.s. intelligence community. the nsa says they can't really describe much about the program because it's so highly classified, but if you look at what is called the open source reporting and you can find a lot of documents on the web, we were
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able to identify a 2009 tepd tke2009tend erbg r from the army corps of engineers. we know as early as 2009 the project on its face was approved and was in the pipeline looking for potential contractors to work on it. >> fully open in october, more than five times the size of the u.s. capitol. of the place is huge. debra herd writes out of texas. how much is it costing us to build? >> reporter: the ballpark figure would be $2 billion and that does not consider overruns. this is like a giant thumb drive for storage capacity. this is for the content that everyone has been talking about over the last four to five days. phone records, emails, and the like. but what is not clear is whether this would just be content collected overseas, or whether in some way it might bring into
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the net that of american citizens. bill: we don't have that answer right now. a million square feet, a cost of $2 billion. you had a fly over, an interesting twist happened when you were there, what happened? >> reporter: we were not able to go actually into the utah data center. we rented a helicopter so we could get a bird's-eye view. after we wrapped up the tour we were contacted two weeks later by the pilot who explained to us that he'd had a visit from the fbi, the fbi agents had told him they were there on a national security matter and the flight had been brought to their attention by the nsa which had taken photographs of the helicopter and used that visual data to track it to the manufacturer and then ultimately to the helicopter operation that we rented in utah. so it shows you how this can come full circle very quickly in terms of surveillance. bill: that it can, 30 miles south of salt lake city, the town of bluff dale utah. catherine herridge, thank you. we'll talk to you again for more information and knowledge about this. go to our website, also hemme
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hemmer at fox news.com. hoch. martha: this is brother is now on trial for murder, and now he is blasting the media for their coverage. >> he's been very consistent. he has always told the truth from the beginning, he was attacked, his nose was broken and the attack continued and he defended himself. >> george zimmerman's brother speaking out in his defense. he will be here live right after this. bill: also why would the obama administration give up the fight over the morning-after-pill? dr. manny alvarez has an answer. he is back, he is not happy. why women of all ages will be able to get their hands on plan b. >> this is the insert. it reads like the constitution. there are so many possibilities, probabilities, percentages, you're going to tell me a 15-year-old girl who could even buy it and give it to a 14-year-old or a 13-year-old, is going to understand all the potential side effects the gre.
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bill: the george zimmerman murder trial is underway. the florida man claiming self-defense in the killing of 17-year-old teenager trayvon martin. zimmerman's brother is speaking out blasting the media in mart for what he says is putting their own spin on the case. here he was yesterday in court. >> i have no doubt that mr. lee, the former chief of sanford, florida, cheech of police, and the district attorney's office, or state attorney's office as it
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is here would have liked nothing more than to find any thread or ounce of probable cause to cause george with any crime. they found none and it became politicized. it centered around race and the law was defiled. bill: robert zimmerman jr. is george zimmerman's brother my guest here in studio. good morning to you. >> good morning. bill: you said yesterday the state will not be able to meet its burden. >> absolutely. bill: what do you mean by that? >> this is an improper charge, a charge that should have never happened. i think the people who were acting ethically and honoring their oath from the very beginning and did not bring forth charges were honoring their oath and they were honorable people and i think that the chief of police at the time, the former chief now, billy, or the state attorney's office would have liked nothing more than probable cause to be able to charge george with a crime if in fact a crime had been committed. not only did they find this was not murder, they found that no crime had happened at all. bill: but you contend that the
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prosecution has to either prove murder or has to prove that he did not act. >> actually my understanding. bill: did not act in self-defense. >> well my understanding is that it's in fact both. they have to prove that it is a murder, and then they have to prove that it is not possible that he acted in self-defense. bill: otherwise your brother walks free. >> correct. bill: a couple of things you've done in the past several months, it drew a lot of media attention to you. you had quite a response yesterday in court yesterday. do you regret what you did back in march on your twitter account? that seemed to suggest a hint of racism. >> yeah, i don't know that it's racism. i think i had to learn how to use twitter in a very public sphere. i made a mistake, i apologize for it. and i think that i'm not going to be tweeting obviously once the jury is impaneled because i think it's inappropriate. bill: do you think you hurt your brother at all? >> hard to tell. i don't think so. i think if we narrow the scope of the events that transpired that night, you know, down to those five or six minutes or so
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we will get a clearer picture in court. the court has this amazing way of putting filters on. this is not about the defendant's brother or anybody else. this is about two lives that intersected, a tragedy and a very straightforward act of self-defense. bill: some of the defense you have on your behalf and your brother's behalf is he had a broken nose and a bloody head. >> right. bill: do you think that helps his case and by how much? >> i think it's very telling that you had -- megyn kelly had allen dish witch on saying if he he was the prosecutor who filed the affidavit he would be getting an attorney. i think it was telling in the first bond hearing it was revealed that the state of florida never bothered to inquire or to get the medical records that proved george had a broken nose. i think that i went out on piers morgan, i said medical records will confirm he was attacked, his nose was broken. i was called a liar, and george was called a liar. i think it's great he got to meet the jurors, he's a real
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person with really motions, sensitive and caring and he's not a mythological monster as he's been made out to be. he's in very good hands. all of the evidence that kind of counters this notion that mr. martin was not a person who was capable of injuring him to the extent that he did is going to play very well in his favor. bill: you know, there is one observer who says you can put all the issues of race and society to the side, what the jurors have to figure out is what happened that night. >> correct. bill: you have that 18-second clip of someone yelling help which will be absolutely critical and essential to the jurors as they deliberate this. now, if they determine that is the voice of trayvon martin, does your brother stand a chance? >> you know, right now we are still awaiting the conclusion of what is called a frye hearing to determine if e will be allowed at all. there is also going to be -- bill: the judge is going to make a decision on that whropb way one way or the other. >> right in addition to the termination of whether the tapes
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will be allowed at all. the reason the tapes are so contentious is it's clear to those who use science as a standard, including the fbi in the state of florida, it's pretty much impossible to tell over a scream who is screaming. a scream is not a normal voice, speech is different than scream and i think that came forth in the frye hearing. bill: and the jurors will have to figure that out if they are allowed that evidence. how is your brother doing? he appears to be larger than we last saw him. is he healthy? >> being over waelt is not healthy. i think the stress is uncanee and i think that everybody responds to stress in a different way. i lost weight, i picked up smoking as a habit, which is terrible. and george gained weight. bill: we have breaking news, but we have more questions. we appreciate your time. thanks. martha. martha: we'll go to the president who is now speaking about his support for the immigration reform bill. let's listen in. >> we are today standing united in support of the legislation that is front and center in
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congress this week. a bipartisan bill to fix our broken immigration system. and i have to say, please give toll another round of applause. [applause] >> it takes a lot of courage to do what toll lu did to step out of the shadows and share her story and hope that despite the risks she could make a difference. but i think she is representative of so many dreamers out there who have worked so hard, and i've had a chance to meet so many of them, who have been willing to give a face to the undocumented, and have inspired a movement across america. and with each step they've reminded us time and again what this debate is all about. this is not an abstract debate. this is about incredible young
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people who understand themselves to be americans, who have done everything right, but have still been hampered in achieving their american dream. and they remind us that we are a nation of immigrants. throughout our history the promise we found in those who come from every corner of the globe has always been one of our greatest strengths. it's kept our workforce vibrant and dynamic. it's kept our businesses on the cutting edge. it's helped build the greatest economic engine that the world has ever known. when i speak to other world leaders one of the biggest advantages we have economically is our demographics. we are constantly replenishing ourselves with talent from all across the globe. no other country can match that
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history. and what was true years ago is still true today. who is beeping over there? [laughter] >> you're feeling kind of self-conscious, aren't you? [laughter] >> it's okay. [laughter] >> you know, in recent years one in four of america's new small business owners were immigrants. one in four high-tech start ups in america were founded by immigrants. 40% of fortune 500 companies were started by first or second generation americans. think about that. almost half of the fortune 500 companies when they were started were started by first or second
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generation immigrants. so immigration isn't just part of our national character, it is a driving force in our economy that creates jobs and prosperity for all of our citizens. here is the thing, over the past two decades our immigration system hasn't kept pace with changing times. and hasn't matched up with our most cherished values. right now our immigration system invites the best and the brightest from all over the world to come and study at our top universities, and then once they finish, once they've go got gotten the training they need to build a new invention or create a new business our system too often tells them, go back home so that other countries can reap the benefits of the new jobs, the new businesses, the new industries, that's not smart, but that is the broken system we have today. right now our immigration system keeps families apart for years at a time. even for folks who technically
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under the legal immigration system should be eligible to become citizens, but it is so long and so cumbersome, that families end up being separated for years, because of a backlog of visas, people who came here legally who are ready to give it their all to earn their place in america end up waiting for years to join their loved ones here in the united states. it's know the right, but that's the broken system we have today. right now our immigration system has no credible way a of dealing with the 11 million men and women in this country illegally. yes, they broke the rules, they didn't wait their turn. they shouldn't be left off easily, the vast majority of these individuals aren't looking for any trouble, they are just looking to provide for their families, contribute to their communities.
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they are our neighbors. we know their kids. too often they are forced to do what they do in a shadow economy where shady employers can exploit them by paying less than the minimum wage. making them work over time and not giving them any benefits. that pushes down standards for all workers, it's bad for everybody, because all the businesses that do play by the rules, that hire people legal gee and pay them fairly are at a competitive disadvantage. american workers end up being at a competitive disadvantage. it's not fair, but that is the broken system that we have today. over the past four years we've tried to patch up some of the worst cracks in the system. we made border security a top priority. today we have twice as many border patrol agents as we did in 2004. we have more boots on the ground along our southern border than
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at any time in our history. and in part by using technology more effectively illegal crossings are near their lowest level in decades. we focused our enforcement efforts on criminals who are here illegally and endangering our communities. and today deportation of criminals is at its highest level ever. having put border security in place, having refocused on those who could do our communities harm, we also took up the cause of the dreamers, young people like tula who were brought to this country as children. we said if you're able to meet basic criteria like pursuing a higher education we'll offer you a chance to come out of the shadows so you can continue to work here and study here and contribute to our communities legally. my administration has done what
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we can on our own and we have members of my administration here who have done outstanding work over the past few years to try to close-up some of the gaps that exist in the system. but the system is still broken. and to truly deal with this issue congress needs to act, and that moment is now. this week the senate will consider a common-sense bi-partisan bill that is the best chance we've had in years to fix our broken immigration system. it will build on what we've done and continue to strengthen our borders. it will make sure that businesses and workers are all playing by the same set of rules, and it includes tough penalties for those who don't. it's fair for middle class families by making sure that those who are brought into the system pay their fair share in taxes, and for services. and it's fair no for those who
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try to immigrate legally by stopping those who try to skip the line. it's the right thing to do. this bill isn't perfect, it's a compromise, and going forward nobody is going to get everything that they want. not democrats, not republicans, not me. but this is a bill that is largely consistent with the principles that i and the people on this stage have laid out for common-sense reform. first of all, if passioned this bill would be the biggest commitment to border security in our nation's history. it would put another $6.5 billion on top of what we're already spending towards stronger, smarter security along our borders. it would increase criminal penalties against smugglers and traffickers. it would finally give every
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employer a reliable way to check that every person they are hiring is here legally, and it would hold employers more accountable if they knowingly hire undocumented workers. bill: the president's pitch apartment the white house about immigration reform. it is critical today because the seven is expected to vote later today on its idea of immigration reform. john boehner on abc a bit earlier today says he expects immigration reform to be passed in the law by the end of this year. this event continues, it's also streaming live on our website at foxnews.com if you want to check it out there. we have to get a break, because the white house is reversing course on the plan b emergency contraceptive pill. we'll tell you why that is happening with dr. manny alvarez who joins us with what is means for your family as well, next.
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bill: tim tebow was born again this morning. did you hear? he has signed a contract with the new england patriots. we'll see whether or not he makes the team. the head coach holding a press conference moments ago. this is why he likes tebow. listen. >> he's a talented guy, he's smart, works hard. and we've all seen him play, he can do a lot of things, we've seen that. bill: that's as much as you get out of him on a good day. tim tebow is a patriot. stay tuned. martha: more on that later. all right. back to one of our top stories today, the u.s. justice department has now dropped its effort to keep age restrictions when selling the morning-after-pill. that means now that girls of any age will be able to walk into a drugstore after sex that they think may have resulted in a pregnancy and take a plan b off the shelf and buy it. dr.~manny alvarez is a senior
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managing editor of fox news health.com. a phefpl pwer o member of the fox news medical a team. you are very much against this. the last time we talked you had to be 17. what happened? >> we went from 17, to 15, now any age, no id. you can walk in and buy it off the shelf. we have been ba bamboozled by an administration. this is the agenda they wanted in from the very beginning. i know that secretary sebelius went on the record and said well i don't want to approve it for more ages because i want more studies especially for younger children at the age of ten. that didn't happen. the president himself when confronted with the supporting sebelius says well you know i have daughters and i see the whole point. then why didn't you do something about it if these your belief? from a scientific point of view i know, yes, plan b is safe for women.
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but since when is a ten-year-old a woman? all the advocates that say oh this is a great success for women's health rights and all of that, i get the whole thing if you want to say women, fine, but a ten-year-old, an 11-year-old, a 12-year-old. martha: they are kids obviously. >> those are kids. they are not even teenagers. martha: let me play the other side of this with you a bit. i was listening to a discussion on the radio as i was coming into work and the feeling was, this is horrible, nobody wants to see a child this young pregnant, but that this is better than the alternative of a child that age, and you're an obstetrician and i know you have seen a lot in your work, and they say, you know what, this is better than not having it. >> well i think this is going to make it worse and the reason that i say this is because, you know, we have had a teen problem pregnancy in the past. i grew up in the 70s taking care of patients where we had teenage pregnancy clinics, and those numbers have come down dramatically. mara: right. >> we didn't have plan b then.
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but what we had was more education towards teenagers. we had better accesses specially in schools for sex education. parents got the message loud and clear. kids got the message loud and clear and the numbers came down. so now you have taken a federal step to further take away any kind of parental information. so right now basically any child who gets on the internet or listens to the news says, you know what i'm an 11-year-old and i see all these guys, people talking about -- i don't have to talk to my parents about anything now especially when it comes to sex education. so, i think this is something that has taken the parents away from the -- martha: i sent my daughter to buy, you know, the d-level of allergy medicine the other day at cvs and they wouldn't sell it to her without an id that shade she was 18. you can't buy cold medicine, you can't take your appendix taken out without your parents standing by your side at the hospital.
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you can do this with no problem. explain what kind of world we live in when that is the >> the rational is really something that i can't put my head around it. because they say, well, abuse. there is data already to support that even at the college level they look at this as something that maybe i can use this as a routine birth control. so this is a terrible decision but i knew we were going to be bamboozled. martha: thank you, dr. manny. we'll be right back. what makes your family smile? backflips and cartwheels. love, warmth. here, try this. backflips and camm, ok!s. ching! i like the fact that there's lots of different tastes going on. mmmm! breakfast i'm very impressed. this is a great cereal! honey bunches of oats. i hear you crunching.
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