bill: i know what it is because -- martha: that is the sound of the see cad secadas when i leave my house at a 5:00 in the morning. bill: that is sci-fi. martha: they are everywhere. articles tellings you it's not as bad as they said, it is. and that's proof. thank you, everybody. see you on the radio with brian. jon: ha fox news alert and a news conference happening on four major fires burning across colorado. the el paso county sheriff's department giving an update as crews battle the flames. already tkoltzs o dozens of homes are gone forcing thousands of people to flee to safety. the first fire burning in the black forest area northeast of colorado springs while another fire led to the evacuation of 900 inmates from a state prison complex. this map showing where the fires are burning across my home state. we'll bring you the latest information as we get it "happening now."

and right now brand-new stories and breaking news for you. jenna: for the first time since blowing his cover the selfproclaimed leaker of the f fnsa program is speaking out. giving an interview from a top secret location in hong kong. we'll tell you what he said. a girl was nine when her nats was murdered back inside a restaurant back in 1986. help cops find his accused killer many years later. and a brazen robbery caught on tape. police on a search for suspects . we'll show you the entire video and how you can help. it's all "happening now." he liked the spotlight for a few moments. jon: he got his 15 minutes of fame that is for sure. jenna: now it's a different story. the world's most wanted leaker speaking out for the first time since he went into hiding in hong kong. we are hearing from him, we are

not exactly seeing him yet. we are glad you are with us, everybody i'm jenna lee. jon: i'm jon scott. edward snowden keeping out of sight in a secret location he says. a hong kong newspaper has an exclusive interview. mr. snowden talking to a reporter for the south china post, the morning post saying he plans to fight any attempt at extradition by the u.s. government. in thursday's edition he reveals more explosive details on u.s. surveillance targets, his plans for the immediate future, steps he claims the u.s. has taken since he started revealing nsa secrets, and his fears for his family. he also tells the paper, i'm neither traitor nor hero, i'm an american. mr. snowden has good reason to fear severe consequences with prosecutors likely to make an example of him. the former texas congressman ron paul is he fears mr. snowden's fate could be worse. >> somebody in our government might kill him with a cruise missile or drone missile.

we live in a bad time where american sit accepts don't even have rights, and that they can be killed. but the gentleman is trying to tell the truth about what is going on. jon: meanwhile a four-star general finds himself in the eye of the storm about national secrets, and widespread surveillance. army general keith alexander is director of the national security agency, and head of the u.s. cyber security command. he'll appear today before a senate hearing marking the first time an official for the nsa appears in public since the secrets leaked out. senators will want to know more about the extent of surveillance programs and what is being done to prevent another damaging leak of highly class need secrets. charlie hurt is a columnist for the washington times. charlie, as all of this is boiling in washington, where is the president? what are we hearing from him about this? >> well the president is struggling to kind of stay on message and to keep talking about the issues that -- you

know that he wants to talk about, in terms of immigration, and things of that nature. obviously today he's currently in the process of hitting three big fundraising stops trying to kind of feed the machine to keep -- you know to keep the political conversation as far away from this as he can. he's tried to sort of downplay it. last week he said things like, you know, this is an important conversation to have but then he quickly changed the subject and tried to kind of talk about other things . it's a bad situation for him. this is very much the fight that we saw on the right between sort of the security versus freedom debate that has cle, a ved the right and the middle for years now and it's landed right in the middle of the left with president obama, and, you know, the leaker edward snowden was a big obama supporter, and he believed what president obama -- the promises he made during the

campaign and become disenchanted with him when he realized they were just campaign promises. that is the stated reasons he's given for coming out with all this stuff. that is reflective of a lot of the democratic base, a lot of the left that absolutely supports president obama, tends to support democrats but they are very concerned about all of this. and i think we are likely to see at some point we are going to see a toll taken on democrats at the polls. jon: i'm trying to figure out how i feel about all this. and maybe a lot of americans are wondering the same thing. i mean, you know, on its surface i don't guess i care that the government knows, you know, which internet sites i've gone to because i'm not building bombs, any more than i, you know, care when i walk out in the street outside of our offices i'm on new york city police surveillance cameras because i know i'm not going to be robbing stores in the diamond district. when you find out that this --

you know, the tax collecting agency of this same government is subbing people in groups to extra scrutiny and these groups just happen to be the political opposites of the president, it leaves me wondering whether i want that government nothing a lot about what government knowing about what i think and where i go. >> i think you put your finger on the heart of it. we are a free country, we obviously want to be free from terrorism but we also believe in freedom in our own personal freedoms. it is a difficult task. but what i think -- what i don't think is unreasonable is to expect the government, to expect president obama, expect nsa officials to be able to make the argument publicly why this program is so vital to thwarting terrorist attacks that it cannot be scrapped. if they can't make that argument then you have a real problem. if you can't make that argument publicly, then that's a real

failure. but you've put your finger right on it, the real problem here is all these other scandals that we've been talking about for the past month, month and a half, have set the stage where, you know, this administration has lost a lot of credibility going into this fight, and -- i should say going into this debate. when you have vladimir putin lecturing our president, the american president on privacy, and you have germany rebuking america for this program, suggesting that it's like the gestapo, that is terrifying. i think that it is the backdrop of what you just mentioned. jon: the world has been turned on its head in some respects. perhaps it will be, well left up to general alexander to do some of what you're talking about and defend these programs today in front of congress. we'll certainly be watching live. charlie hurt from the washington times. thank you. >> thanks, jon. jenna: i for one am relieved that you're not planning on robbing anyone. i need you here on set.

jon: i'm not. i have a job, i earn a paycheck i don't need to rob anything. jenna: point well made, jon scott. we are awaiting new details about this program today. the details are revealed by this 29-year-old leaker, edward snowden. there are new questions today about the government's growing dependence on contractors like mr. snowden. they are expected to safeguard some of the nation's most sensitive secrets, but we will be taking a closer look at these contractors. mike emanuel is live in washington on this story. mike, one issue that is being discussed in congress is the role of these contractors when it comes to intelligence. what can you tell us about that? >> reporter: jenna that is right. figures from the trebgter directors of national intelligence reveal more than 1 million contractors have security clearances. less than half of those tho top secret clearances. the speaker of the house says they will have a closer look. >> they have a number of federal

employees and there are also federal contractors used for certain programs. i think that is fair and appropriate. but i think it's up to the committees of the congress to provide that oversight and i think we will. >> from a policy standpoint i've long been concerned about the role of contractors in the intelligence field, and that is surely an area that will be explored at considerable length in these public hearings, and i'm going to do everything i can to push to make sure that we have the hearings promptly. >> reporter: following an incident of high profile leaks you can expect congress will dig into the issue. jenna: some suggest, mike that the times are changing, right? we are dealing with some of these 21st century threats, and this is how we do it. what about the lawmakers that fall on this side of the argument? >> no question about that, protect he can the country has created a security clearance community in terms of weapons systems and america's other intel skwreps, operations and secrets. a member of the house foreign affairs committee draws this

conclusion. >> if you're going to build this enormous intelligence infrastructure and you're going to build a lot of high technology weapon systems you're going to have a lot of people with security clearances. >> reporter: minutes ago senate intelligence chair dianne feinstein said she is working on legislation to reduce the number of contractors and their access to highly classified information. it will be interesting to see how big of a change she pursues. jenna: very interesting development there, mike. we'll stay on that side of the story as well. thank you. >> reporter: thank you. jon: taking you overseas and happening right now, chaos in istanbul. turkish police swarm the square where anti-government riots continue, firing teargas and water cannons into the crowds. the prime minister is set to meet with activists today as protests continue for the 12th straight day. leland vittert is streaming live from istanbul. >> reporter: jon, right now

protestors are gearing up for today's battle at taxim square. right behind me is a park where this all started. that is the place where the protestors came because the prime minister wanted to build a mall. the prime minister sent in the police to clear them out and now we've had 12 days of violent, violent protests, the same turkish coffee vendors in is tan bill are selling helmets for $5 to protect the protestors against the rocks and rubber bullets and also of course gas masks are a high commodity, painters' masks become a valuable asset as there are volleys that go off. we we've talked to a number of protestors here and they shay they can't believe that the tkpwhof government would turn on them this way. they claim it's a democracy. they say they would never treat the people the way it's gone on for the past couple of days especially the all out police assault on the protestors yesterday in the square that

left so many people injured. right now there is a meeting going on of sorts between a number of protest groups, some backed out, those who protested the violence itself and the prime minister. nobody really thinks much much will come of that. much the thousands of protestors that i talked to in the past couple of hours they say we are here for the duration, they have built large barricade made out of burnt out cars to protect their positions. the police broke right through yesterday. many of the protestors said they are happy to get hurt or injured to protest what they she is a prime minister becoming a dictator and trying to move turkey to an islamist state than the government they've been so proud of so long. jon: flash to to egypt in tahrir square. jenna: an inspiring actress lost her father when she was nine

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jon: fox news alert about a story we have been closely covering, ten-year-old sarah murnagan being prepped for surgery at children's hospital of philadelphia right now. she will be getting the lung transplant, and is headed to surgery as i mentioned. fox news legal analyst peter johnson jr. has been following this story from the beginning. he joins us live on the phone. peter what can you tell us? >> momentous news for the family

this morning. i spoke five minutes ago with sharon who is ten-year-old sarah's aunt, she informed me that she received the happy news that there are a set of adult lungs that will be transplanted in the next 20 minutes or so into young sarah. this is the next step in an 18th month journey to save sara's life. it included a trip to the federal district court in philadelphia and a kind of broad throated attack on kathleen sebelius, and the department of health and human services to change the policy in america by which children were deprived of information adult organs. now the change is underway, a federal court order is in place, and now sarah is about to be wheeled into an operating room some insure she has the gift of life. it will be a long, long process going forward, many, many weeks of recovery, many types of different medications to help her not reject these adult lungs

that she will be receiving this morning. jon: i remember when the judge issued that order that made this all possible it was a very short window of time, just a couple of weeks, wasn't it peter? and i thought, wow, what are the chances that she could actually get help during that him too. lo and behold we have a miracle occurring here. >> neck nic here. >> there is another hearing scheduled in federal district court before judge michael babailson on friday as to whether or not he would continue his order and the federal government would show cause why they have a policy in place that discriminates against children that need adult lung transplants here in the united states. obviously i couldn't see sharon, but i heard tears in her voice, it's a day of great, great skwraoup lacing fo jubilation for the family and a sign of hope for many, many other children across the out i

united states who await other organ transplants. the federal government is changing the policy based on the sarah murnahan case. jon: people will continue to keep her in their thoughts and prayers today as they gets ready for the transplant surgery. jenna: we'll bring you any updates that we get over the next few hours. the verdict is in, a bizarre murder trial rocking a small town in kansas. jurors are tasked with deciding whether a former cop killed his wife or if it was all an elaborate suicide plan. what they decided coming up. plus as some are calling the man who spilled government secrets a traitor we'll talk about the risks to our national security. what is the real life effect of all of this? ambassador john bolton weighs in next.

jenna: welcome back. the srerpd is in following a very high profile murder trial in kansas, the jury taking only hours to decide the fate of a former cop accused of killing his wife. rick folbaum is live in our new york city newsroom with more. >> reporter: the trial has been big news in small town america. king man, kansas, population 2900, a couple goes from being high school sweethearts to murderer and victim that was the decision the jury made late last night after six hours of deliberations find being the defendant guilty of first-degree murder in the 2011 death of his wife. the couple was estranged fighting over custody of their two young sons while continuing to live under the same roof. prosecutors convinced the jury that 16 days after the wife filed for divorce, bret, a former sheriff's deputy shot and killed her, grabbed the two boys and set a fire in the house to

cover up the evidence. they said he left behind a forged suicide note. defense lawyers argued that the wife committed suicide because she was depressed and war lead about losing custody of the boys. the jury heard from the couple's marriage counselor who testified that she got a phone call from bret immediately after the whole thing saying that he had killed her, that it was his fault. the defense said that he had said that because he felt their arguing had pushed her over the edge and the medical examiner could not determine if the death was a suicide or a murder. the defendant set to be sentenced august 5th. prosecutors say they will try to get a life sentence with no chance of parole for at least 50 years. back to you. jenna: hope those two little boys have somebody to go to. such a sad story. jon: a new fallout from the nsa security controversy as the feds begin investigating what revealing top secret government programs could mean for our national security. ambassador john bolton is a former u.s. ambassador to the

u.n. and a fox news contributor. kind of ironic that the head of the nsa general keith alexander, you know it's one of our nation's most top secret agencies and he's going to be testifying in front of congress in an open session today. what do we expect to learn from that? who. >> well, i hope he's able to give an articulate explanation of why these programs existed, what threats they are intended to address and some general description of the protections they've provided. i wish these programs had never become public, that's one reason we have secret protections in congress itself, which congress has agreed to. but i think it's important now that it has become public to defend it. i must say it should go well beyond general alexander. president obama needs to come back from the tall grass and defend why he has used these programs for the past four and a half years.

that would be a display of presidential leadership, and i think it's important now that we get it to try and calm some of the concerns that people have. jon: well, the president is fond of saying, you know, i welcome that debate, but his critics have observed in this circumstance if you're going to have a debate you've got to know what is going on, you've got to know the material that you're going to debate, and until now we didn't know that this program existed. >> well, i think that it's important to understand here that all of the branches of government have been involved in this. even if it's been in secret. and by the way, the constitution fully contemplates a lot of secrecy when it comes to national security, that goes back to when general washington himself was the head intelligence officer of the continental army. this is something i think that congress, by setting up the program, by putting an article iii judge in charge of granting

warrants for actual searches distinguishes these nsa programs from the scandals that people have been talking about, the abuse of the internal revenue service, benghazi, the subpoenas to members of the press, all of which are exclusively executive branch abuses. jon: there have been rallies around the country, going to be one in new york today celebrating edward snowden as a hero. you were one of the first to say he's a traitor. >> he's a dishonorable and deceitful man. he signed numerous documents saying that he would never disclose the confidential highly class need information that he was given, and he violated those oaths. that tells you something about his character, number one. number two, as i say, we've had all of the branches of our government involved in decisions about this program. who made edward snowden legitimate to declassify this information? who died and made him king? you know, he's done things,

apparently according to reporters, he will do more that could gravely endanger the national security of 300 million other americans. i don't think that is an act of heroism by any stretch of the imagination. jon: it raises the question, who is minding the store here? i mean if a 29-year-old high school drop out can walk into a defense contractor, work there for three months, and do this kind of damage, what does it say about, you know, who is watching over this process? >> well, i think that is a legitimate question, that need to be looked into. i think you can say exactly the same thing about bradley manning, a low-ranking enlisted man in the army who did incalculable damage by the leaks he revealed. i will say this on snowden, we don't know the full story on this yet. the kind of things he's had access to don't make sense that somebody in his position could have got even all together. i'm not at all sure that he's acting completely alone here. i think there is a lot that is still to be learned about his

activities. jon: ambassador john bolton, always good to get your perspective. thank you. >> thank you, jon. jenna: the man accused of holding three women captive for a decade in his home is pleading not guilty to more than 300 charges, including rape and kidnapping and murder. how could he do that? why is he doing it? the latest from cleveland on that. also severe weather spreading across parts of this country effecting a whole lot of americans, bringing damaging winds and large hail. meteorologist maria molina is tracking the storm and joins us next .

>> check it out for 449.

jenna: welcome back. a severe weather system is moving into the midwest bringing straight line winds and hail and flash floods and possibly even tornadoes. maria molina is tracking this massive storm. straight-line wins. that's something we don't hear a lot about. >> basically that means that when gus in excess of 60 miles per hour. if you see the severe weather and you you have been hearing a lot about it, we are talking slight to moderate risk, maybe even a high risk coming up. severe storms. during the months of may and

june, those are two of the most active time periods. this does not mean that we could be free and clear damage. a couple of light showers across sections of the great lakes and even farther west into parts of the dakotas. light rain, but later on this afternoon and into this evening, possibly even during the overnight hours. we have a chance of severe storm and transforms. chicago, indianapolis, ohio, tomorrow, the storm system shifts eastward. moderate risk for cities like richmond, virginia and even philadelphia. jon: that it's very for a lot of people. >> that is right, very strong thunderstorms moving into the area. that is another concern throughout the day.

jon: thank you, maria. well, just then, the it man accused of holding three women captive in his cleveland home for a decade. he pleads not guilty in court. ariel castro arraigned on 300 charges including murder and kidnapping and rape. the world watched as the three women he accused held hostage escaped last month. one escaping a calling for help. police then arrested the other two of them. so what happened in court today? reporter: it was a court hearing just like we expected. much like the last time a, about a month ago, he entered the courtroom with his head down, he kept it down throughout the hearing. he did not make eye contact with anyone in the courtroom. he had his eyes closed out the hearing as well. 329 charges that he is facing only cover the first five years.

meaning that there is an additional 62 charges against castro. they are going to continue the investigation. jon: the legal team spoke after the hearing. what did they say? >> craig weintraub essentially said that there were certain charges here in the indictment today that they cannot argue with. he says that they would much rather enter a plea bargain with prosecutors rather than go to trial and force the three women to take the stand in this case. take a listen to what he said. >> the fact that we are criminal defense attorneys does not mean that we are not human beings. we are having a constitutional right to defend her client. do we measure that would the impact that it can have on these women. as well as their families and

the community. reporter: so there is certainly a great deal of evidence in the prosecution and defense. for ariel castro's defense they are looking to avoid a trial. jon: it sounds like they are angling to keep the death penalty off the table here? reporter: that is certainly a goal of theirs. jon: thank you. speak your "happening now", a new report. intelligence operatives hacked into the al qaeda operative magazine inspire, and kept the new issue from going on the web. jennifer griffin has more about this. we are talking about the nsa, websites, phone calls, monitoring all of this. what is the deal here? reporter: what has been lost is that the nsa is conducting offensive strikes as well

against known terrorist groups using the metadata that meta- data that they collect. not just providing a surveillance. this is more than just a surveillance program. last month we know that al qaeda in the arabian smith left try to publish its latest issue of inspire magazine online. in the past, terrorists were told how to make a bomb in her kitchen, for instance. it went online. the first 20 pages of the magazine came up blank. it appears to be the victim of a cyberattack. the pentagon will not say whether or not it was behind the attack. but we have learned from those who monitor chapati websites come in the u.s. cybercommand and u.s. security agency, which are in the same location, they are actively going after these groups. the u.s. cyberattacks are sometimes going into these publications and they may just alter the ingredients on how to make a bomb, just enough so the recipe doesn't work. another way of preventing terrorist plots.

jenna: that is so interesting. especially when we have a public debate on what happens in the dark versus light of day. we know that the president signed a directive in the fall but was very public that would give the military permission to use cyberas a weapon. how does that figure into the competition? >> yes, it is important to remember what happened in october. the president signed a presidential policy directive. it was number 20 in which he asked the pentagon to draw up potential targets overseas. it is unlikely that the magazine was part of it. this explains how we are entering a new era with this cyberstrike on "inspire" magazine. >> the question is the legality of this. there is a big internal debate in the white house about whether or not you are tampering with freedom of speech.

so far people have been willing to put up with it. there are limitations on freedom of speech. you know, to directly advocating violence, it can take action against you. reporter: that was jim lewis, a former intelligence officer working on cyberissues. it is interesting to point out that a recent pew research poll said that most americans, 57%, they would prefer that the government uses information to go after terrorists and they are willing to sacrifice some of their privacy rights. jenna: thank you. jon: they walked in empty handed and left with more than a half-million dollars worth of jewelry and cash. now the search is on for two people that police say knew exactly what they were doing. and we will speak with senator begich about pulling back the veil on secret court.

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jenna: the courts are deciding whether or not the government has the right to spy on you. it stands for the foreign intelligence surveillance court in his ruling interpretations of our nation's law are highly classified. but now a new bipartisan bill is

looking to change all that by declassifying some of the court's courts opinions so we can take a look at these decisions and how they are being made. we have senator mark begich with us. he is a member of the homeland security committee as well. it is so nice to have you in the program. >> thank you. it is great to talk with you folks. jenna: thank you so much. this fisa court was created back in the 1970s and created for the same reason that we are asking questions about it today. to take a look at the government's decision-making when it comes to surveillance on the public. it wasn't created by a president or a totalitarian government but by congress. but you what you have to say about that? >> well, i was there when it

came up for reauthorization last year. for all of the reasons we are now starting to see, we do not know how they are developing their opinions that there has been this broad effort to look at your phone records, my phone records, millions of phone records and e-mails. my point on it is that we understand you have to have strong security. we also have to protect the privacy that is cherished in this country. in alaska it is embedded in our constitution. there is only one other state that has privacy embedded in our constitution. we understand the value of our personal privacy and also we understand the balance between security. without knowing those opinions and how they are derived, the decisions, as we just found out, the broad sweep of millions of americans e-mails and phone logs and they are being tapped into and reviewed.

the way i understand it was set up this way many years ago. jenna: do you have any fact-based information that somehow this court is abusing the power that has been given to it by congress? >> there are two parts. one part is confidential reviews and commentaries. and i will tell you that we are seeing millions of americans being invaded, their privacy being invaded by review as well as e-mails. i know that we have an issue. but it is not in the millions that live in this country. by that fact alone, the wide sweep is beyond where they are originally set up many years ago. jenna: i want to add the context to our conversation about this weekend. >> part of thi we don't know.

>> one of the things that is being reported is that the nsa or the surveillance program, the largest target was actually iran. and the state department came out recently and said there has been a big resurgence of terrorism from iran in the past year. so one can say maybe it is not millions of americans that are having their phone records in undue surveillance. maybe this is somehow validating this program and shouldn't we take confidence from that. maybe this is actually working. >> in that case we should have as much transparency as possible. recognizing the legislation and walking through the steps carefully. to understand how the court is determining these decisions. i think it is so important. we have gone beyond what the laws are and we have to have a whole new discussion.

right now we are not clear because it is not transparent as we all would like it to be. again, we recognize that there needs to be a high-security level. continuing to expand its jurisdiction without even knowing how to arrive at it as a problem. i think that americans need to have a balanced approach. >> there's an editorial that says the greatest threat to civil liberties is not the surveillance program. but another attack like 9/11 where the public is rightly fearful that we give up willingly a lot of our privacy just to make sure that that happens again. what about the security risks here. looking at these opinions, having more of them to our enemies. what about that? >> in the legislation that we sponsor, we make very clear the

steps and procedures and it has security overall, and how they come up with the opinion of how they expand their surveillance. crafted to make sure that we protect national security andade courts come up with a decision to look at millions of records. that is a fair statement. we are not saying that they give us names and all the procedures. but help us to understand how broad you have made this, because that is what the american people are getting nervous about. we have made it clear about national security. but ensuring that there is an understanding of the authorities here and making sure it matches what the law says. jenna: we will take a closer look as we see what happens. we look forward to having you back and checking in on this

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jon: new information as james "whitey" bulger gets underway in his trial. he is accused of taking part in 19 murders. molly is live at the federal courthouse in boston. as they started laying out their case, what the prosecutors have to say? >> prosecutors alleged that james "whitey" bulger participated in a slew of murder and extortion plots and he was no ordinary leader. but he did the dirty work

himself and a hands-on killer. at one point he read aloud the murder is and a fellow member that had been strangled. men that james "whitey" bulger did believe were feeding information to law enforcement. he was one of the biggest conformist and untrained informants in boston, including fbi agent john connolly. they gave us a look detailing some of the testimony to come and some of the alleged partners in crime. >> what about the defense? were they saying about these allegations? >> his defense attorney denies that he was an informant. he was given information to law enforcement. instead he says that james "whitey" bulger was happy to pay them about wiretaps.

here is the attorney. >> i hope to give people a perspy. >> i hope to give people a perspective in the 70s and 80s and 90s and how it was when he was able to operate with complete impunity. >> he talked a lot about corruption. john connolly is now serving four years in prison. they gave connolly money and information and tips him off to stay on the run for 16 years until his capture in june of 2011. jon: we will have more "happening now" in just a moment [ lorenzo ] i'm lorenzo.

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jon: we are in the "happening now" control room with a brand-new our coming out right now. including edward snowden's still in hong kong. will he be able to stay there for a while? and who allow someone with so little experience have access to so much classified information? we will have the answers straight ahead. also tracking four major fires in colorado. dozens of structures destroyed. more are threatened and we will have the latest. and take a guess. how many people do you think wash their hands properly after they use the bathroom? a brand-new study that may have you reaching for the pure hell. all of that in the second hour of "happening now."

he. jon: the white house appears on the defensive. the nsa spying controversy. hello, i am jon scott. jenna: i am generally. new charges after the nsa director james clapper lied under oath when testifying before a senate intelligence committee in march. he asked clapper is the nsa collected any kind of data at all on millions of america. clapper answered no, not wittingly. but this seems to contradict information about the sweeping surveillance program that the government collects information about the e-mails and phone calls of the public. the white house press secretary says that the president still stands by him. >> he certainly believes that the director has been straight

and direct and has actively engaged in an effort to provide more information about the programs that have been revealed. jenna: in the meantime, he leaked the information about the now not so top secret surveillance program. fighting extradition. a whole lot happening today. our chief intelligence correspondent is live in washington today. >> thank you. edward snowden may have said in his first interview that he claimed to be the nsa leaker. he says that he trusts the people of hong kong to decide his fate and people who think i may a mistake and misunderstand my intentions. i'm not here to hide from justice, i am here to reveal

criminality criminology and i have faith in hong kong's rule of law. you see him here, ahead of the usa who is back on capitol hill for a second day, testifying before a senate committee that democrats are exploiting the dilemma. >> i don't think the solution to those concerns should not be massive leaks. i don't think that is the way that this should go. i think in some cases it should put people's lives at risk as well as security. >> security comes at a price. i think we all recognize that. but liberty is priceless. >> google is sending a letter to eric holder. pressing them on how many accounts are bonded to the government. an interview with fox news, the top lawyer says that the force of the government has direct access to their servers.

and it is wrong. >> there is no lockbox or backdoor. we comply with orders and we deliver information for when we receive these targeted orders. reporter: pressure on the administration allows them to classify some of the statistics about what has turned over and how it is provided. jenna: that is so interesting. thank you, thank you very much. jon: what about the president? he sees that he has gone silent. especially since the nsa leaker came out of the shadows just days ago. a piece and political read that while it is frustrating, i partisan observers say that the white house is doing just what it should. but there is still a strong climate in the white house for the president to offer more of an explanation for surveillance

and leaks to be a part of the debate obama says he welcomes. let's talk about it with juan williams. the president has been criticized for continuing to endorse the tactics of the bush administration employed. >> that is exactly right. the premise here would be this as is an opportunity for the president to try to reconcile two different versions of his presentation with regard to national security. i do not think that there is much of a case to be made for him with edward snowden in the ongoing investigation and prosecution of snowden for violating national security. i think that he should stay out of that. the question of the moment we will have an oval office address

, or could it be that he gives it an exclusive interview to a newspaper or has a press conference to address these issues. jon: guest, yes, he is meeting with the president of peru, on immigration reform, and the whole country is talking about right now is the nsa controversy. why does he not address the? >> in some ways you look at the poll numbers and clearly most americans right now are giving him the benefit of the doubt. but i think there is a political clamor among his political critics, especially those on the left. those who feel that this is inconsistent with the barack obama that is running for senate. so they want to hear from him a clear explanation and justification for why they feel the need to pursue a policy. especially to the left is a

continuation for a fourth term for national security. >> doesn't leave the white house looking like a rudderless ship? is the guy in charge isn't coming out and making strong pronouncements about it? >> from the critics point of view, they want the justification that they refer to. i would say that he is taking wise course here because it is part of the national security strategy. the balance, it is very important constitutional debates. it is something the american people would like to hear. i think that he is going to have to do it and the sooner the better. >> in the past couple of days we played that clip as a senator campaigning for president and

how he was going to change all of that and have the attorney general look into it. now we find that he is continuing the very same policies. >> obviously it is a different situation. he is responsible for defending me and you from terrorist attacks. i think that he feels obviously that that is the paramount concern here. but when you look back at the senator and the president, there is an inconsistency, whether or not it is obviously an opportunity for critics as political opponents. but is that something he's going to speak to? what you have to say it here is why. as president of the united states, i do not feel it is against our civil liberties. jon: then he has to come out and defend these programs, doesn't he? >> guest, i think he has to defend the idea that we have struck the proper balance

between civil liberties and national security is. getting into the details of edward snowden and how the program operates, i do not think that is a smart move. jon: walk over and give them a him a piece of your mind. [laughter] >> that's right. i have come over here. they are probably listening. jon: juan williams, thank you so much. jenna: now this fox news alert. big news for a 10-year-old girl undergoing a lung transplant. at the children's hospital of philadelphia. mark and avert has been covering the story since the beginning. live from washington. what a development in all of this. reporter: that is right, today sarah's family got the call they have been waiting for. the donor for lungs has become available and they would be a good fit for the 10-year-old girl was in the end stages of cystic fibrosis.

her doctors have given her weeks to live without a transplant and she had to be incubated and sedated over the weekend because she was having such trouble breathing. according to the family, the transplant surgery was set to begin about 20 minutes ago and will take many hours. we don't know if it was adult lungs or pediatric lungs that were donated. you may remember the parents filed a lawsuit asking that should she be put on the adult list. as well as the pediatric list. even though she didn't meet the age requirements for the adult list. a federal judge agreed to hear the case and in the meantime sarah was allowed to go on the list. the family said today this is sarah's new beginning a new life. and they also acknowledge that for her to get these new lungs, there was a donor somewhere who had died. her parents have asked the family and friends to pray for the family that have experienced a tremendous loss. jenna: it sounds like something we could all use today. we will keep them in our prayers as we follow this story.

jon: you might have expected it. the nsa snooping story triggering lawsuits. it is calling for an end to the widespread surveillance program. cannot really happen? our legal panel weighs in. and fire the fire is burning out of control, forcing thousands of people from their homes. a live report from the fire lines coming up in two minutes. >> i'm not sure if my house is blocked. we are stuck right here. my son was not home. he got some things out. but he got out safe. my daughter is out. everyone is out that i care about hey kevin...still eating chalk for heartburn? yeah... try new alka seltzer fruit chews. they work fast on heartburn and taste awesome. these are good. told ya! i'm feeling better already. [ male announcer ] new alka seltzer fruits chews. enjoy the relief! withyou'll find reviewsve time, on home repair to healthcareon.

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jenna: a massive fire that has burned more than 200 homes. some who have stayed behind are

helping crews on the ground to pack up and go. even a local prison is transporting the inmates because of the fire. this is one of four major fires burning across the state. but hot dry weather is making things a lot worse. a reporter is live. reporter: that is right, we are at the black forest fire. we are here because this is the fire that is threatening the highest number of residents, more than 2000 homes in the area and they are being threatened right now and we just had an update. right now this fire is at 0% containment. >> since 5:00 a.m. this morning, we have been checking it out. it is a very hot fire, even at 5:00 a.m. this morning.

as we know, the winds are expected to pick up and we are having a red flag warning today. what happens right now and what has happened up to this point is probably going to be pretty calm compared to what we can expect. reporter: resources are being sent into battle this fire from idaho and nevada and new mexico. the department of defense says it is spending aircraft with what are equipped with modular systems that can drop fire retardant up to 3000 gallons at a time on either one fire or a multiple location fire. mandatory evacuations are underway right now. these potatoes are expected to be expanded. you mentioned that there are some people who they fear stay behind. that is because during the voluntary evacuations are people who decided that they weren't going anywhere despite the fact

that the fire was moving rapidly toward their home. there haven't been any reports of missing persons at this time. however, officials here say that they are very concerned. this is a deadly fire and there are some people who are back in that area. jon: the american civil liberties union is going after the national security agency over its just revealed sweeping surveillance program, calling it unconstitutional. saying that it violates the rights to all americans. will the lawsuit be successful. our legal panel weighs in. an antigovernment protest raging in a key american ally. why the rights in turkey may look like the arab spring uprising, there is a major defense. we will go in depth coming up next. the math of retirement is different today. money has to last longer. i don't want to pour over pie charts all day.

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jon: right now the first major legal challenge with the nsa's sweeping surveillance. the american civil liberties union filing a lawsuit claiming that the program goes far beyond the limits set beyond the patriot act. and asking the court to force the government to end the program, curb any records collected and declare the surveillance unconstitutional. joining us now is faith jenkins, a former prosecutor. and the criminal defense attorney. does it stand a chance here? >> i think normally in these cases, there probably is the agency that has to go into court. because of this secret nature of these programs, it is difficult for many agencies to say yes, we know that we have been the subject of this surveillance and

therefore we have a case. so in others the lawsuit have been dismissed. because the court said that you don't have this and you can't prove and show that your agency has done it. but because of the leaked documents, we know that this was perhaps releasing metadata from the phone call to government databases. the aclu is saying that you are a client of horizon and you have standing of the case. >> one of the problems we are dealing with is that we are relying upon the word of this 29-year-old guy is what these programs are capable of doing. so here it is taking a ball and running with it. and how do we know that the nsa is really doing all this stuff? >> the nsa has admitted that they are doing it through rising. we are learning through the lawsuit that i pulled that other

carriers have had to do this as well. even some of our search engines like google was unwittingly a participant. it is some of the existence of the programs although they say that they were acting legally. jon: and challenging us, they say that the government is a comprehensive record and public movement. about our familial and religious associations. as i understand the counter argument, they are saying that we collect information but we only process that if there is a neat. does that make a difference? >> i don't think it does at all. what they are saying is that this is a violation of the fourth amendment rights.

the freedom of expression and association, does the government have a right to know who we are communicating with and when we are communicating with them. and look at who our clients are. this is highly sensitive information. also the fourth amendment gives a reasonable search and seizure. why are these mass information is being collected without wine? why is that happening? they are saying now that we have been information to know that our agency is successful and we have to challenge the constitutionality of a. jon: i am struggling for analogies here. but this government admittedly, local government, also collects my trash and sits there. and sometimes if there is a crime, the government has reason to go back and and dig through the trash and see if they can find evidence of that crime. is that a little bit what is happening here? >> no, not at all. they are saying that this

information is being collected and the reason why is because of our national security. the aclu is saying that is not the case. you cannot preemptively collect all this information down the line. you never know what it is going to be used for. jon: what your final thoughts? >> the analogy does not work. you have abandoned this. you really just rights. the phone calls are not being abandoned. you are actively making phone calls. the government can also see your location. there is data that shows the latitude and longitude when you are making these calls. it is not just the fact that they know who you called in when you called, but when you call from this phone. this is the slippery slope. we are living in, we are going

down. jon: so i did not win the argument? [laughter] jon: no law school for me. >> thank you. >> thank you. jenna: i thought it was an interesting analogy. jenna: the key senate races heating up in a very key state. details on the candidates and the heavy hitters coming out in support. we will tell you about that next. when you think about family vacations, do you think about a ski lodge especially for you? how about a deserted island where you have to fish for dinner and, you know, that guy on the screen is a senator. he went on and he will tell us a little bit about it andof the d. little bit about it andof the d. that is coming up next.] running out of steam? ♪ now you can give yourself a kick in the rear! v8 v-fusion plus energy. natural energy from green tea plus fruits and veggies.

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.. jon: with less than two weeks before massachusetts votes in a special election, democrats are making a major push to hold onto a key senate seat. long time democratic congressman, ed markey is going head-to-head with republican newcomer, gabriel gomez easy in. polls show this race is getting tighter. president obama touching down in boston last hour, prepping for a rally in hopes of more democratic votes. chief political correspondent carl cameron is live in washington. does the president help or hurt on the campaign trail here, carl? >> reporter: given all the controversies in a lost states there are democrats

who probably wouldn't welcome it as much but in liberal massachusetts he could probably do some help. the president goes to boston to campaign for democrat ed markey, dogged by controversies and facing criticism from democrats he ignored his party last couple years in order to get reelected. mr. obama has 60% approval in the bay state. registered democrats outnumber republicans two to one. he needs help in the republican newcomer, gabriel gomez easy in. looking for a scott brown-like upset 13 days from now. gomez has never run for office before and over the last month as surged from 17 points behind to trailing now by only seven points which is virtual tie within the polls 4% plus or minus margin of error. he penned an open letter to the president inviting mr. obama it come to a town hall meeting in boston. do to the expect that to happen. jon: but the two candidates debated, right? >> reporter: they did last night. a feisty one. second of three they have before the election 13 days.

mark can i says gomez will vote for conservatives and is not the kind massachusetts moderate that gomez claims he is. he says mark can i is reckless big spender and washed up insider and budget responsibility for the debt after nearly 40 years in washington. >> if you want to talk numbers, the year was 1976. $680 billion was the national debt. it is now $17 billion, sir. you are washington, d.c. and you own the national debt, sir. >> reporter: pretty tough stuff. a nasty race with lots of name-calling attack ads by the campaigns and lot of outside groups. last night mark can i raised eyebrows for ridicule for gomez's federal debt and deficit vocabulary. >> to hear mr. gomez talk about math and budget. it is not math arithmetic. it noise not as complicated as math. something you learn in grammar school. >> reporter: there is distinction between arithmetic like addition and

multiplication and mathematics the science of numbers. i looked it up to make sure. no matter what you call it, when it comes to the budget when there is $17 trillion debt, the status quo doesn't work. jon: that was weird comparison. jenna: i'm looking it up now. arithmetic and math. all right. jon: i wouldn't want to take on a navy seal in any endeavor. carl cameron. >> reporter: get out the protractor and compass. jon: carl cameron in washington, thank you. jenna: it will come up somehow, somewhere we need to know the definition. we'll get on that. the senate is getting to work debating landmark immigration bill today. this has been sort of lost in all of other news we're getting out of d.c. of late. a key vote happened yesterday. it moves the measure forward. it could give 11 million illegal immigrants a path to citizenship. this is a bill the president is pushing lawmakers to pass but it has some critics in the senate. take a listen. >> i very much want common sense immigration reform to pass.

this bill is going to pass the senate. but as written, this bill will not pass the house. as written, this bill will not pass into law. and if this bill did become law, it would not solve the problem, indeed it would make the problem of illegal immigration that we have today worse rather than better. jenna: senator cruz, a critic there. joining us is the arizona republican jeff flake. he is a member of the so-called "gang of eight". those are the senators who crafted the bill. he is member of the foreign relations and judiciary committees. so he is a busy guy. senator, nice to have you back on the program. >> thanks for having me on. jenna: senator cruz is not the only critic as you know of this immigration plan. it is getting through procedural issues before you add amendments and like. but his point in its current form it will not pass the house. so how do you get your colleagues in the house, other republicans to get on

board with this immigration bill? >> i think he's right in its current form it would not pass the house. we'll go through a process of three weeks of amendments. i believe that sufficient number about amendments will be added to strengthen the bill and to improve it in a way that will insure that it passes into law. jenna: give us, give us the top priority. what is the one amendment you want to see added that you think is really going to be key to seeing full passage? >> there are a number of amendments on the border security. to tighten up some of the border security provisions. i will offer a few my elf is. i'm certain that some of those will pass and perhaps many of them. but this bill was improved in the judiciary committee. it was there for about three weeks. i think 130 some amendments were added, improving the bill. it will continue to improve as it goes through the process. jenna: let's talk a little bit about border security. interesting to have senator cruz's opinion on this. also a border state as is yours.

"the new york times" did a interesting cover photo. i want to show our viewers. shows a woman and her daughter and they're crying at the border fence. hopefully we pull that up for the viewers so they can see it. that tells one side of the story, a very emotional story of a family getting separated. senator flake, one could argue we only show one side of the story when we show people jumping the border fence. when you come to border security, be more specific about the amendment you will offer about what sort of plan you think is the right plan for a bill like this one? >> well this bill already provides $6.5 billion to improve our border security. we'll have more personnel. we'll have better technology. we'll have better prosecution. we're taking what has worked in the yuma sector in arizona and transfering that to the tucson sector where we still have a lot of problems. so, and also, the so-called second border, if you will, is at the workplace. we'll have mandatory e-verify for the first time. employers will finally know if the person presenting

themselves for work is actually a u.s. citizen. or is here on a legal permit. so there are a number of things to help people, insure that we have border security. we should note as well that 40% of those who are here illegally now didn't sneak across the border. they came on a legal visa and simply overstayed that visa. so we'll have a workable entry exit system as well. jenna: it is interesting you mention that because some of the proposals have been more surveillance of these people in the country illegally that came on visas. interesting to pick up on that. we're looking at broader ongoing surveillance of american public and american citizens. how will that impact the immigration debate what is happening now with the nsa scandal? >> i think overall the boston bombings, whenever something like this happens the immediate question is this person a u.s. citizen? are they here on a student visa? are they legally here? right now we don't know what many of these people, i mean when you have a situation

where you have 11 million people here in an undocumented status, then you have questions like that, do you want to answer. it is an untenable situation for our national security, for our economy and for a number of reasons. this bill does address that. we'll for the first time have an entry-exit system where we'll not only know when people come here on a visa but when they leave. so we'll be able to track much better what they do. jenna: look forward to checking in with you on this bill. there is a lot of questions on amnesty. come back to talk more about the bill as it moves in this process. senator, before you go, i have to ask you about this family vacation you took where it would decided it would be fun to go to a deserted island as you have done in the past with your two boys. we're getting video showing that. >> right. jenna: to you think this is it maybe a potential proposal for a lawmakers? should we take congress and put them on this island to see if they figure out a couple things? is that maybe a model, your vacation for future together,

if you will? >> that would sure be nice. people ask why don't you go on "survivor" show on television. you could get voted off on the island. i get voted on enough elections. to spend quality time with my two boys, four days, we didn't take any food. we had to spear what we ate. it was a fabulous, fabulous time. i would love to do it again. jenna: really? satellite phone, senator? >> we did take that. my wife insisted on that. jenna: okay. i'm with your wife. i get the whole thing, hunting, i got it. maybe just a satellite, just in case, senator. that's all. thank you so much for your time-sharing that story with us. we look forward to having you back. thank you. >> thanks for having me on. jon: i got a vacation idea. that looks like fun. jenna: bring a camera like he did. it is great video on youtube if you want to check it out, put it on the show page so i can find it. major scare at at school after an explosion rips through a building.

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jenna: turkey's government is looking to put an end so violent protests. they're looking now that. we'll see what happens. police used tear gas and water cannons to break up demonstrations. turkey is both a member of

nato and a close u.s. ally. while last night's protest may look like the arab spring, we're sure you heard the comparison our next guest says, turkey is very different and we need to snow that. he is a senior fellow with the cato institute. so, doug, why, why is it different? >> the critical difference here turkey is democracy. the prime minister's been elected. his party has won three straight elections. every election they gain popular vote. polls show he has support of about half the population which is percentage that his party got in the elections a couple of years ago. so he is not likely to be toppled the way we saw in these authoritarian regimes. this is a very different system. he has problems but this is a democracy. jenna: there have been some questions raised about other democratically elected leaders like morsi in egypt or ahmadinejad in iran, for example. there seems to be widespread or wide swath of the public in turkey that have been issue with his rule. even though, he is elected and he d other

support, what about that? what about their criticism of this government? is any of it valid? >> oh, of course. but this is not iran. he's not ahmadinejad. the difference here he is kind of arrogant. i think he is having won three elections, he thinks he is the colossus of turkey. he has been in power for a decade. he clearly believes when you take power you're responsible to your voters. you don't care much what the other side thinks and his government has grown more authoritarian. it put pressure on the military. it put pressure on the media. it arrested people it shouldn't have. there are things that it is doing that are bad. the good news is democratic response upcoming elections, next year, municipal, presidential. the year after that parliamentary. we're looking at a different kind of system where we see in egypt where there is no effective constitutional rule. there is very much concern over the muslim brotherhood's role. this is a system where he took power and dismantled a

lot of authoritarian controls. now unfortunately he is moving in the other direction. jenna: moving in that other direction, i found it really surprising to learn that turkey has more journalists in prison than iran or china combined. there have been some concerns about freedom of the press in this democracy in turkey. what about religion in public schools there? and some comment about how many children women should have. those comments by erdogan, should we as ally of this country be at all concerned with some of that move, as you said a move towards more thor tehranism, easy enough for me to say? should we be concerned? how concerned should we be about the move in that direction? >> well, certainly it warrants concern. what this country needs is to become a liberal democracy. democracy where individual liberty is protected. it never really had that in its history. what is important in judging him to realize he came in and dismantled a militar military-dominated nationalist authoritarian system. that was very good.

many liberals in turkey really liked him. since 2008, 2009, somewhere in there he started moving in the other direction and that should concern us. it concerns people in turkey. that's what these protests reflect. it is about far more than a park. it is about the direction he is going. my hope is that the turkish people will use this as opportunity to insist he change direction and they have the ballot box, they can do that. >> doug, great to see you. thank you so much. >> happy to be on. jon: now this fox news alert. just out from the federal emergency management agency or fema, it is refusing to provide money to help rebuild parts of a small texas town leveled by that massive explosion. rick is here to explain. rick? >> reporter: this is an about-face for the federal government which promised to help the town of west, texas, after that awful explosion. the associated press uncovering fema's response to the state's request for help saying explosion at

fertilizer plant is not of severity and magnitude that warrants a major disaster declaration. but this was president obama at a memorial service for the first-responders who were killed in that blast. >> be there, even after the cameras leave. and after the attention turns elsewhere. your country will remain ever ready to help you recover and rebid and reclaim your community. [applause] >> reporter: we should mention that individuals who live in west, texas, have been getting money from fema but the mayor of the town said that $57 million more is needed to fix roads, a local sueage system and a school. all of which were destroyed when the west fertilizer company plant blew up. that money will now not come from the federal government. the meantime a 31-year-old man, bryce reid, remains in custody charged with

possession of a explosive device. he claimed to help evacuate people prior to the explosion. no word on the cause of the blast. back to you. jon: rick folbaum, thanks for keeping us updated. jenna: next time you reach out to shake somebody's hand, a new study says most people are not washing their hands the right way. and there is a right way and a wrong way. looks like this person is doing a good job. the dirty details next [ female announcer ] doctors trust calcium plus vitamin d to support strong bones. and the brand most recommended by... my doctor. my gynecologist. my pharmacist. citracal. citracal. [ female announcer ] you trust your doctor.

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jenna: we're all supposed to do it every day, austin, every day. a new study find most people are just not washing their hand the right way, let alone at all, rick. i mean, at least wash them but you have to do it the right way. what is the right way? >> reporter: first of all, i should warn you if you're in middle of breakfast or late

morning snack, might want to put the food down for a second. this is kind of gross. researchers from michigan state, watched people in public bathrooms to see who washed their hands after using the bathroom and for how long. the results not encouraging. 15% of men and 7% of women did not wash their hand at all, jenna. women beat men in using soap department. 78% do. compared with only half of the guys. the study found there was a sign encouraging people to wash, they were more likely to do that. all in all, only 5% of people washed their hand well enough to actually kill back steer yaw. that means -- bacteria. that means soap and at least 20 seconds. average washing time across the board is six seconds. we could all resolve to do better in that department, jenna. jenna: did you teach your kids to sing happy birthday to wash your hands? >> yes. jenna: not quite 20 seconds, is it? >> reporter: not quite 20 seconds. my kids try to get out

without suing soap. we'll work on it in our house. jenna: like most adults. that's good. resolve to change it. rick, thank you. jon: talking about getting down and dirty, a baseball game interrupted by a bench-clearing brawl. what caused these players to go at it. how umpires punished those in the middle of this mayhem. >> it he is going into the stands.

post show. >> wild brawl interrupt go the game. both benches cleared after a wild pitch hit dodger's player. he was the fifth batter hit by a pitch. a little out of ordinary. no serious injuries reported. umpires ejected six players and after the brawl the dodgers got their revenge taking the lead beating the diamondbacks 5-3. >> jenna: i don't know. what do you think about that? >> jon: we do have a show meeting today. we're going to talk about how we are doing. one of big people come. we try to behave ourselves. >> jenna: what kind of emotion might come out. during meeting. this is an interesting twist on an old did i but goodie. lego faces are getting angry yes, sir.

it actually shows this. a number of happy faces in the tiny figures are actually, xshts say i it may have something to do with how kids play with them. study says in 1980s. most of the figurines were happy but as we get to the 90s they get angrier and all sorts of emotions. lego group is the third largest toy masterer and children play five billion years playing with legos. i wonder what the way they play with the legos is somehow making the lego faces more angry zbloochbtd like the old song says, pout happy face. >> jenna: none of those brought in by great producer that has a collection at hole. i'm sure she place with

them plays a little bit. >> jon: especially the green guy. thanks for joining us. >> jenna: america live starts right now. >> megyn: fox news alert. on white house effort to escape some of the five different political controversies burning through washington right now. welcome to america live. i'm megyn kelly. just a short time ago we learned new details about a very unusual series of off the record surprise meetings between the president and some of the country's top reporters. latest was just two days ago. these reporters were originally told they were meeting with white house staff in a run of the mill background off the record briefing but then in an unusual move, president obama personally made a surprise appearance. that is where the story gets interesting. chris is our digital politics editor. so he almost never does