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evening. and let not your heart be troubled. greta van susteren standing by to go on the record. the full report on the department of injustice, tomorrow night at 9:00. tonight, is the obama administration even taking this seriously? >> the obama administration facing a bit of criticism. heavy criticism for a handling of recent scandals. >> we are at the precipice of scandal overload right now. >> my suspicion, every cell phone in america having their data tracked. >> i will tell you this as strongly as i can. the national security agency is not reading american's e-mails and not collecting e-mail by either program. >> the federal government has no authority under our constitution or anywhere else to collect data on every american phone call. >> this program does not target
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americans in any way, shape, or form. >> a little surprised that the white house hasn't stood up and made clear on an ongoing basis over this last week, just how important these programs are. >> i think you heard the president speak about his views on the program and the necessity of the program in question here, a necessity to have such programs in place. in order to protect our national security. >> this past sunday, mr. cummings, cranking member on the oversight committee, based on everything he has seen, the case is solved. is mr. cummings accurate in his assessment? >> it's currently under investigation. >> you started a month ago. what can you tell us about this. you found the two rogue agents, discovered who those people are? >> needless to say, because it's
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under wasinvestigation i can't >> you can tell me some basics? how many agents assigned to the case? >> i would have to get back to you. >> the lead investigator? >> off the top of my head, no. >> the most important issue in the country and you don't know who the lead investigator is? >> at this juncture, no. >> we'd like to know how many people you have assigned to look into this situation. >> you have questions, but the obama administration does not have answers. and nice to see you, mr. speaker, newt gingrich. >> good to be with you. >> you stop with what many in the town are called a scandal or a series of scandals. >> what you are seeing begin to build, i don't think are you public i had cans in this town get this. we were not told the truth, fast and furious when the american agent was killed, in a really stupid project by the justice department to sell illegal guns into mexico not told the truth about benghazi, and it's still
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clear, not being told the truth about benghazi, not being told the truth about internal revenue service. the quote you had on the air just now. not being told the truth about the environmental protection agency, giving thousands of farmer's names to lawyers. case after case after case. we have four interns building a room just to put scandals. people of great authority, whom i respect, come out and say trust us, the government is not eavesdropping, not looking at your e-mails, why would you believe them? i think this is a very deep and real crisis of confidence in the entire establishment of this country and i don't think neither party understands how deep it is. >> what is -- there is the impact domestically. the polls for people losing confidence or so many people think that snowden did a good
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thing. 54% of those poll. but the other problem is that you even have -- next week the president traveling to berlin, to see chancellor anglea merkel and she wants to raise whether german's privacy was snooped upon by the nsa. this is one our biggest allies, huge country in the eu. >> look, it's been an open secret for at least 20 years that we vacuum the world for information. and -- and as long as it was an open secret, nobody had to pay attention to it. now it's page one so if you are the german chancellor, and you may have known you we were doing it, and, you know, i don't particularly like it, but i understand why the americans were, after all, there were al qaeda in hamburg.
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remember, all these different countries have problems with terrorism, but now she's really in a box, is she going to say to her own people, i'm not going to protect you from americans spying on you? this is a -- i think someone, by the way, should be tried to the fullest possible prosecution. i don't think individuals have the right to break secrecy and they can do incalculable damage to the country when they do so. >> is this the time when we are supposed to be showing strong solidarity with germany and the media is consumed with us explaining ourselves, but then the other problem where you have president putin essentially lecturing president putin, lecturing the united states on not invading people's privacy and breaking the law and this is a country we want help with in dealing with syria. >> this is an example of why common sense every day americans look in the whole process as it's out of touch with reality.
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for vladimir put inch, whom you point out, was a leading cgb figure, doing all kinds of things is inappropriate and having any problem with decent rule of law. for him to lecture success the height of total hypocrisy. >> it is i had pop rihipocrisy, somehow in a less attractive position as we deal with international problems when we have people who may be hypocrites sort of barking at our heels? >> that's why what snowden did is very danging at one level. because there are a lot of things a democracy can do to protect itself as long as they genuinely seek it. and people will tolerate it as long assi it's genuinely secret. it's difficult to sustain if it's overly public. i would be surprised if we weren't gathering an enormous
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amount of data in russia. if we are gathering all this data, why didn't we find the chechen bombers in boston? one of whom was in back in russia. >> one of whom we gave citizenship to in the midst of this. >> why didn't we find the pakistani bomber in new york city. why didn't we intercept major hassan before he killed people at fort. hood? we're not able to analyze and focus on people who really matter. >> is this a short coming of the president, or is this a big miss of government? >> i think we're in the early stages of a bureaucratic big government scandal that runs through virtually every agency, but i think it's compounded by obama, both with the ways he deals with government and the way his administration is so consistently dishonest. every major scandal and virtually every major scandal, they have stonewalled, refused to tell the truth, refused to
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cooperate. it's very different from watergate, from the clinton problems in the '90s. this is not just a white house problem. this is a level of i willegalit and bureaucratic arrogance. they are a reflection of president obama's attitude. way we beyond that. david axelrod said it perfectly. this government so big the president has no idea what is going on. i think that's government way too big. >>ed the mood tonight about obama care, it's real name as you know it, we all know, affordable care act, but it turns out some members of congress will not be able to afford insurance under the so-called affordable care act. we spoke with pete sessions. >> member of congress and our staffs will be losing the health
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care provided to us throughout our history. we are no different than the impact on the american people who are finding out that the tax consequences, the availability of insurance, that they had before, and on an ongoing basis, the availability of a large team size that would allow costs to be reduced are part of the and members of congress and staffs are caught right in there. if we are able unable to repeal bill, many members of the congress and their staff will go seek employment somewhere else. >> has anyone said to you, they are really seriously thinking about walking away? >> this is the law of the land that the president has signed into law. and changing the law is very, very difficult. this is not an unintended
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consequence, nor is it an unintended consequence of what it will do to the american people in our future. >> a provision in obama care that would end your health care and your staff's health care. what are your thoughts on it? >> we're going to certainly look to make sure that the system works for all of our employees here in the house, house staff. that's extremely important, and the cards will fall where they may. obviously, one want to make sure that they can protect their families, congress persons, just like anyone else. but most of all, we are public servants serving in a congress that is about the people. we'll continue to serve the people and i will continue to advocate and promote obama care, the affordable care act, saving lives, providing insurance to people who couldn't get it before. >> mr. speaker, they called the affordable care act. members of congress who voted for it discover that the bill they voted for and didn't read i might add, that they can't
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afford it and some discussion about fixing it for their people on capitol hill. something we talk about hypocrisy with president putin. what about that? >> pete sessions had it exactly right. if it's the law of the land, it's the law for congress and their staff, and should be the law for the white house and white house staff, et cetera. and i think it's very, very important that congress not exempt itself, because the -- >> how can they even do that? how can they possibly do that in good faith? how can they exempt themselves? this is a great law for everyone except for us. we'll put in a fix for ourselves? how can they possibly do that? >> i think they probably can't do that, but, remember, power has a tendency to think it can be amazingly hypocritical and no one will notice. unfortunately, nature of power. power turns to corrupt and power corrupts absolutely. and the way you have all sorts
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of people are beginning find out this bill has many, many unintended consequences. and that it almost certainly in the end is i think going to be replaced. >> there is something sort of -- i don't know. maybe i'm cynical, but the fact that they are now discovering consequences and they themselves have a problem, the bill they voted in. that they didn't read is like go figure. >> this leads directly to the current immigration bill, with the same challenge. you get bills 800, 1,000, 1,200 pages long. you should slow down, hold hearings, have committee markups, make sure you thoroughlian them. obama care, an accident. it was passed by the senate to go to conference. they lost teddy kennedy's seat, is in a special election, they couldn't afford to go back to the senate. they passed a bill that was imperfe imperfect, had not been thoroughly examined, and they
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did it because it was the last chance to impose government run health care. >> if they exempt themselves -- >> they won't. it will be impossible. i can't imagine john boehner scheduling that. he would go crazy if someone tried to schedule that. when we -- we were first in control in 1994. one of the key principles, the ko congress has to suffer under the same laws as everybody else. we make the laws, we have to live your honor them. nice to see you. senator tim scott in a briefing. all the scandals are a sign of big government not working. senator scott joins us. big government -- >> good evening, sir. >> good evening. >> tell us what you mean? >> the more we centralize power and bring money to washington, the worse the country goes. you like at the irs scandal, the ap situation, the benghazi situation, you he see
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consistently government becomes more bloated and as government becomes more bloated we have challenges every place else in america. classic example, nlrb fighting north carolina fighting boeing. boeing corporation in south carolina and keeping the jobs and adding more in washington state. the nlrb gets involved in the race this is a bad situation. you look at the doj suing south carolina over our voter id law. 3$3.5 million we had to spend. we won, doj comes back to south carolina, a little town, branchville, 800 voters, and we spend hundreds of thousands of dollars verifying the voter id law was accurate. the larger this government gets, mort it's tentacles reach. the overreach is amazing. >> the solution, we have an awfully big government what is the solution? >> checks and balances.
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one of the things, we had to keep the power divested in washington. and we ought to try to do now, is make sure we keep this administration in check. consistently and continuously stay on the case. >> give me an example. >> classic example, how we are trying to figure out how do we rein in regulatory environment. obama care, still writing regulations. we need to keep this in front of our committees, oversight in the house, working on it. and the minority in the senate to bring more attention to this problem. >> you know, i don't know how obama care will get implemented. interesting to see. they need all of these irs employees added they say in order to do the taxes and the penalties. but in order to pay those irs -- i forgot how many thousands they have to add. have to get appropriations and money from you. from the house. and now -- now what happens? >> well, hopefully it slows down.
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you heard earlier, talking about the fact that there is a chance this thing could slow down where we don't see full dimensi implementtation. >> if they find out the confused law isn't fully implemented on the timetables, that will make it more bizarre. >> i'm not really quite sure that's true. i will tell you why. >> okay. >> 15% americans uninsured before obama care. and the estimates after obama care, $3 trillion, and still 10% of the country uninsured. the solution hasn't solved much. the entire for change i think is growing. when you hear chairman back cus call this a train wreck, we're on the right track. maybe we need to look at it piece by piece and dismantle it. >> all of the scandals in
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washington, do any of them have responsibility of blame on the white house? >> when you look at the president, desiring to have executive order, before you have a contact with fellow government, perhaps you need to turn over all your financial contributions and campaigns? i think that was start of all of this. the irs follows in that direction. when you start seeing in south carolina lawrence county, a home schooling mom decided to get involved and make her country better. she applied for 501 c 3, 501 c 4, to start a simple tea party. 2009. 2013, doesn't have it yet. >> all the way to the white house or just the irs? >> i think it will be difficult to prove how far it goes, without question. >> a lot going on around town. >> tremendous amount. >> straight ahead, a top guy at the csi, anyone going on in d c. investigations it should be fbi
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i did not get briefed on. that's my own fault. >> jason chasith joins us. >> thank you very much. happy birthday. >> if it wasn't so serious, it would be laughable. the fbi director. >> he's been in the office 12 years. i wanted to have a discussion about geolocation and one thing to have meta data, what telephone number called what telephone number, but to be able to trian late that and tell specifically talk about where somebody was. i didn't try to play got you. i submitted the questions a week in advance, so he would have time to be prepared, be briefed. he admitted he had gotten it. some of the questions, jim jordan who does a fabulous job on the irs, most of the clips you saw were my questions that
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said where is the information, let's have a discussion. and he said i don't know, i don't know. >> do you think he didn't know, or just being a jerk or trying to be cagey or he was tired, sick? you can't be the director of the fbi for 12 years and gone through a lot of these hearings, submit questions in advance and still be so grossly uninformed. >> a for metaphor. he punted. >> punted? why even show up. >> he has a stellar reputation, been there a long time. given the reputation, these are some of the hottest, most intense stories in the public that there are. the irs, benghazi. nsa scandal, james rosen situation. each one, i don't know. a pattern, seen it from the attorney general, from secretary knapp, and see this with most
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people in the administration, comes a point where you string it all together, what do these people know? equally concerning, how can these people not know? ignore answance is not much of strategy. >> i think i could have read the newspaper and known the answers to some of the questions. if it doesn't involve life or death, privacy in other instas. this is a disgraceful message to the american people. i don't know, i don't know. i'll have to check and get back to up. >> even on the democrat side, they asked questions where the fbi director said i don't know. and, again, a strategy to delay it out, and i told him at the end. >> i think that's worse if it's deliberate and strategy, that's worse. congress has a responsibility of
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oversight. and these questions weren't intimidating. just asking for information. >> at the end of five minutes, so frustrating. i gave you the questions in advance, and i know you won't give me written answers. he was gracious enough to say come visit me at my office. i hope he does follow up on that. i am looking forward to having a discussion with him. >> learn anything new from his testimony, important to the job of oversight? >> no, no. i mean, he doesn't -- jim jordan, great stuff on the irs. i was asking about the nsa, meta data question. didn't get any answers there. benghazi, fuzzy to no answers on what's going on with that investigation. >> fbi agents that went to benghazi sometime after september 11th. his people. he didn't know what they did? >> he even got the time wrong. i said how long did it take to get in there? he said two weeks, the actual answer is 18 days.
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maybe that's a technicality. >> at least he knew they had been there. that's prophetic. >> congressman issa said how difficult is it to find these people, have you found them? as weeks and months play out, we have to ask questions. ten months after this, we have not captured or killed somebody involved in the benghazi terrorist attacks. how can we stand for that? america needs to wake up. this is a serious thing. four dead americans. >> disturbing head of the nsa with a statement to senator wyden in march of this year and i believe this statement to be untrue. t that he didn't know about any potential investigations of journalists or prosecutions or something. that turned out not to be so true. and then the head of the fbi today, full of so many i don't knows,er in heard of anything like that. and these are all.
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-- the national security of the country. and is this what our leaders are doing? >> a disgust and disdain for the united states congress and the process that is checks and balances in our form of government. and i would think on both sides of the aisle, would you have some outrage, democratic colleagues are just kind of letting go. u.s. it's a matter of time. i hope somebody stands up, you can't just keep pund iting. you have to answer questions at some point. >> and now tonight's head butt issue. why don't director mueller answer the questions? he doesn't know the answer, is he stonewalling, or protect to americans. go to greta.com and vote in our poll. this is the best we can do? what do americans really think about the government? we have the numbers. and rnc chair ryan preeb iebus s
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there is trouble brewing, right whoever in washington. trust is crumbling. take a look at the result of the latest fox news poll. when asked how much trust and confidence americans have in the federal government, only 5% say they have a great deal of trust and 63% say not much or nun at all. what do you feel about the country's political leaders. 23%, confident and proud, and the majority, 71% saying is this the best we can do? reince priebus joins us. >> good evening. >> i hope yimagine as head of gu
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are probably not disturbed about these numbers. 71% think we can do better. tough number. >> this isn't good for the president. clearly there is plenty of blame to go around. but you've got a -- a washington, d.c. that is riddled in scandal and i think what the real issue is here that barack obama and his message to this country and growing this government is exactly what we received. the defense of the president is this. he's saying this is so big, and it's -- it's so broad in this confidence, i can't possibly understand understand what's going on below me. basically his defense. >> has the government grown, like number of federal employees. government actually grown, or the programs have grown under president obama? >> the amount of employees, the government, the amount of money
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we spend in the government and that's why some of these things are -- they are so far out of control, that one manager doesn't know what the other manager is doing. you find out the security detail for hillary clinton allegedly involved in prostitution in belgium. eric holder, now claiming of all things, he doesn't even know that he helped initiate a subpoena on rosen. i mean, find that -- no matter how many subpoenas you are involved in, it's impossible for those to be defenseless. >> the other part of disturbing, the culture as you come down the food chain. the gsa spending money on conferences, the urs, lawyers at the s.e.c. downloading porn, the social security administration doing something in arizona. it is really such a problem in this -- in this government, in the city. it's like -- the government has gone wild.
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everyone tossing as much money as you can. grabbing. >> what the polls are indicating is that even people who may have agreed at one point with barack obama. you assume people -- you know what? i like big government. these people are still disenchanted with the idea we have a president who can't manage the government that's been built. i mean, so whether you are -- whatever side you are on, people are disgusting with what they are seeing and not trusting the people in charge in the white house. that's what's happening. and it's fair. >> it would seem to me, if i were president, i would haul mueller up to the white house tomorrow and also the head of the nsa and also eric holder and i would say, you know what? clean up your act. when you go to congress, you answer the questions, and he answered them honestly. >> they can end all of this. all they have to do is -- if there is nothing to see here, like elijah cummings saying, out
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of the blue in cincinnati, decided to launch the massive national effort, release e-mai s . have lois learner answer a question. >> there is a big gap of e-mails out of benghazi. they released 100, but there were times when no one was e-mailing which seems preposterous. >> i think this will continue. the president and his people can make it simple by picking up the phone and saying, guys, release the documents, let's get this over and come clean with the american people. but he won't. because he can't. >> nice to see you, reince. >> nice to see you, fwrgreta. how can the irs be possibly trusted to help implement obama care. you will hear fromm orrin hatch
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fox news alert. the syrian government has crossed a red line, today, the obama administration saying it has proof that syrian president bashar al-assad has used chemical weapons against its own people. it includes the nerve agent sarin and the white house says chemicals have been used several times in the last year. up to 150 people killed in those attacks. president obama repeatedly said the use of chemical weapons prompt greatest u.s. involvement in the crisis. the president is now considering both political and military options. and while saying the u.s. will increase direct support to syrian rebels, the administration stopped short of saying that the u.s. would arm rebels. no evidence that the rebels have used chemical weapons.
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is the irs politically motivated or incompetent? the irs cannot be trusted to implement obama care. we spoke with orrin hatch. senator, nice to see you. >> nice to see you, greta. >>ith been a while. >> sure has. >> the irs has part of the job to implement obama care. i take it you don't like the idea? >> how can anyone like the idea? they can't take care of 1,700 people. they are saying that the applications spiked. the union am applications also
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spiked. and you don't see a change there. >> they are politiclitolitical incapable or from ideology, we shouldn't have the irs be involved? >> we are currently in tremendous investigation on this we know it isn't just a few dumpy employees in cincinnati. >> u.s. higher up? higher up than lois lerner? >> there is evidence and information that they were told what to do from washington? >> does that include the white house, or not? >> we're in the process of finding these things out. in the middle of very intensive negotiations, and documents, everything, we've got very good vest gautiinvestigative people, don't feel i should comment on it until i get the actual facts. we'll get them. and when we do, hopefully things
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won't be as bad as some people anticipate. i suspect they will be pretty bad. >> the irs needs to hire -- administration, about 1,900 and change, new employees at obama care. will they get money from capitol hill to do that? >> i doubt it. let me say this. they want to implement obama care, which has premium subsidies that will come to people -- refundable premium subsidies that come to people who make up to $94,000 a year. that's how out of whack it is. it will be tremendously expensive. they are finning it will be tremendously expensive. very poorly written. overrun with regulations. i hate to tell you, but the good things in obama care and there aren't many of them, we would have put into a bill that would have been bipartisan. when they say it's a wonderful bill, i don't see how anybody
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overruns, and refunable, no way of checking them. if you look at the earned income tax credit program, they estimate 20% to 25% of that are improper payments to people. no way of really checking it or doing what should be done to make sure improper payments aren't made. this is in the same category. premium subsidies under obama care. and i have to say, it will get worse, not better. >> what will happen? will it collapse if the irs doesn't get the money to hire in the agency, that obama needs to implement for taxes and penalty, they won't get that money, striked premiums to the people paying higher premiums, what will happen? >> when i got here, there were 900 employees, and now there are over 2 million. plenty of employees at the irs. don't see why we should give them more money and more impose,
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especially your honor theunder circumstances. we have to get to the bottom of this, stop anything that is improper, wrong and maybe even illegal. the acting commissioner is a breath of fresh air. he's honest, he's making some decisions down there that have to be made, and he's standing up to the bureaucracy, and i think -- i think we can pay a great deal of attention to him. i'm pretty impressed with the guy. >> what about the story on politico, that a number of members of congress and their staffs will retire, quit by the end of the year. right now, if you work on capitol hill, you will get a premium subsidy? >> i think you will get a will the of people leaving. >> why shouldn't they have sto e
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in the same place as everybody else. >> they are government employees, and they should be with everybody else. and they will be put into pools, and it will cost them a whopping amount of money to be on capitol hill. people ought to be treated the same throughout the government, whatever that is. and i believe that would be a responsible way of handling the problem and i don't want to lose these staff people. they are very, very important for the running of government. >> do you have the sense that president obama is working with capitol hill to iron out problems? >> i don't have any sense of that. obama care, let's call it the "affordable care act." going up by leaps and bounds really. and it's hard to believe that they would saddle america with that. i once stood by just a single state regulation, and it was seven feet tall. i was almost afraid it would fall over on me and crush me.
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that's how bad regulations are in obama care. let's call it about the affordable care act. it's anything but affordable and american taxpayers will get stung for these costs. >> senator, nice to see up. >> straight ahead, move over taco-licking guy. another fast food worker giving us a reason to give up fast food completely and immediately. that photo, next. we reaeally wanteded to take a relalaxing trip p to floridad. but we c can oy afaffd one trip t this year,, and his s g up i in seattl. evereryone's goioing. ard ababout hotwirire and d realized we couould actualllly afford to take e both tripsps.
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love gov. when he sits around the house of representatives... he really sits around the house of representatives. >> thank you for being with us. good night. . >> bill: the o'reilly factor is on. tonight: >> you can't have 100% security and also then have 100% privacy. >> bill: lawsuit latest polling shows president obama losing credibility among the public. does he have a strategy to turn things around among all controversies. charles krauthammer on that. >> pat buchanan and of course o'reilly. these guys are hard right whipping guys. they look a lot alike. black eye look to them. >> bill: sounds vaguely racist, doesn't it as the far left becomes obama idolatry falling apart lashing out. we have analysis. >> ewe have rough days for the first time i have found someone i'm able to
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