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monday. thanks for joining us fo5@ñ this special on the record. make sure you go to gretawire.com. good night from washington, d.c.. ox business and only fox business. you don't get it, the country depends on it. happy father's day. >> it's 5:00 and this is the five. >> happy father's day weekend, everybody. we will kick it off with the free-for-all, political edition. submitted on the facebook page. there lots of hot topics including the nsa leak and irs targeting benghazi and the probe and much more. huge response. almost 4,000 posts. thanks, everyone, for
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participating and i hope those of you didn't feel bad about it right here. vana, the envelope. somebody needs to give him the b 12 shot. let's participate. the first question goes to everyone: since he looks so apathetic, the did anyone think edward snoweden might have been a spy for china the whole time? >> he's not sexy enough to be a spy. you don't have that facial hair and be a spy at the same time. he's not a spy, he's a traitor. >> okay. >> for everyone, i said he's a hero. i say he saw the government overreach and said look, someone has to stop this. >> why was this the first question? >> bob? >> by the way, no. he's not a bradley manning.
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>> he certainly is a james bond. before i get into my part of the question, i didn't realize this was father's day weekend. have i gotten this thing? >> it's not until sunday. you said there was two of you out there? there may be more. is that what you are saying? this is a fox news daddy alert. >> i don't think he gave up the big secrets. >> i love how we operate on half the information. i don't think he gave up that much. >> i would hardly call him a hero. do i think he. proed a national discussion, yes. i don't think we should be giving praise to this guy. i don't think he works if are the chinese. however now i think they are not going to let him out of that country without grilling the heck out of him. >> why wouldn't he? are pa. >> president obama said he will let him come back free and clear and they would be more than
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willing to let him go. >> not sure if that was sarah palin, but welcome to the fox news channel. >> i would agree snoweden was a hero if you viewed america as something like east germany. a totalitarian state. he's definitely a hero. if that's how you think america is i don't think america is like that. >> or if you don't want america to be a totalitarian state. >> moving on, for bob. do you get tired of carrying the water for obama? that's from bradford m. >> i said this before many times, but i will repeat myself. some days, defending obama i feel like it's -- >> west of the dog show. do i get tired? is it. >> sure i do. there times when i just -- it gets very hard. >> then you have to take a sick day.
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>> he's my president and he's a democrat and i'm a partisan. >> at least you admit it. that's why bob is great. you have been consistent in everything you say since day one. you were against the patriot act under bush and against it now. you say you are partisan and that's why request i respect you. you say what you are. >> good for you. >> that was warm and fuzzy. this is going to andrea. for everyone, i am starting with her. for everyone, do you think snoweden will be found alive, dead, or tortured from his knowledge? >> found dead or alive? >> i don't think they will kill him. they will get as much information as possible. they are working on it right now. how quickly can they get him and bring him back. >> i think we know where he is and it will be a lot of wall street to get over to this back here. it's difficult in any of that. >> we are out of time.
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>> why don't we stop them from going in the first place. >> we know where he is now. >> the present location, this is for greg. >> i know where he is. for greg, what would you say to obama if you had the chance to sit down and talk to him. >> that's a good question actually. i guess i would say why can't i keep what i earned. that's the thing that gets me. do you really believe in redistribution. i think he does. >> julia thinks so as well. andrea, i will ask you this question. >> if you had president obama on the radio show, what would you ask him. >> where he was the night of september, 2012. >> i want uestion.
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can i have your question? is it i want her answer. >> do you want her answer? >> this is serious. we do know where he was though. >> i think this is a serious question. what it gets down to about redistribution of all of our wealth, that's separate. you may not agree with it, i happen to believe there is a chunk we ought to take and give to those that don't have. it's a legitimate discussion and it's where we are -- i'm not going to convince you and you are not going to convince me. >> this is open to everyone. i am good at this game show thing. recession-proof. now that we know, kind of. you better watch your job. now that we know cheryl atkinson's security was breached. have there been breeches with rosen?
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>> we don't know it. cbs said they confirmed the computer being hacked and breached by highly sophisticated equipment and technology. yes, i fear in my bones and the computer and i am not only concerned about the government knowing who i call and who called me, but the government listening to my calls. as we know, they have the technology. >> bob has a -- >> the fact that someone will get into this phone line. if it's going on, well the me know so i can kill myself now. >> very dramatic. >> i don't like you, mr. obama. leave us alone. >> we will be moving on with that. here's the next one.
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why was lois learner allowed to plead the fifth? >> that is the constitutional right. >> where is it? >> don't use that. >> he doesn't talk about -- that's her constitutional right although i think she should have been given limited use and immunity and question. this is for everyone. do any of you think that the irs will actually be abolished after this scandal? that's from leslie l. >> that's a laugh track. >> the last thing that will be living. death and taxes. it's true. unless we decide to go to a fair tax and as a liberal, i'm in favor of it. i'm tired of the loopholes and everyone complaining about it. >> fantastic. do you have a thought on it? >> it's up to the american people to wake up to this scandal.
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the biggest scandal to the irs saying -- am i done? >> i'm just talking. >>. >> i thought you were talking to me. >> go ahead. >> we are never going to be able to get rid of them. >> something is important. the american people complain all the time. do they participate? no. do they vote? hardly at all. this is not an engaged community. we are liveing it here. >> they vote, they just elect the wrong leaders. elections are consequences. you have to elect someone who will not abuse the irs. >> this is good. half the people are voting who are eligible to vote. >> quick answers. they are really, really good. do you think the administration will answer to those killed in benghazi? are pa. >> no. if they haven't done it now, unless we get that chl if they are smiling, no. anyone think differently? are. >> they are going to find out who gave the order to stand
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down. >> everyone, which scandal will be most damaging? >> it might say the nsa although it should be the irs. >> now i want to see greg's answer. i think it's the irs, but the nsa is probably something that is shocking. >> i think you are right about that. when we find out who gave the orders unless it's a lot more. >> i think the irs affects everybody's lives. it will be the one and people set up a night where they go to the nsa. >> i will go with the irs and they need to pay for that line dancing video. who in the republican party do we have to make it cool again to get more voters to vote republican. that was from geoff.
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>> we don't even know their names yet. marco rubio is very cool. people don't think he is cool now, but he can motivate the masses. >> he's the real deal. >> he's cool in the republican party. >> it's a tough answer to give. it's a hard question. anybody? >> i think it's dangerous they have to find youngblood. that's another way of saying cool and they have to get on to the campuses and engage students because the students are right now in an academic version of the taliban. >> we have to take a step. >> the hot bet of communism. they used to be active republican students. >> do you know how hard it is to
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come out as a conservative? >> you are a young republican, you are in riding and have aliases or something. >> they are very exciting. very exciting. this is the last question everyone can participate. this is a free-for-all. please jump in. if the ran the country, who would get what job? >> i would be social chairman. >> you are so perky. chipper. >> you would be attorney general. amazing. eric would run the department of commerce. >> or treasury. >> i like you as social chairman. >> you would be good at it. political director.
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you can take your snacks in the green room. our senior producer would be carney. >> you would not run the secret service. the stuff i see on that phone -- >> what would i do. >> you would be good. i fws i should clearly get it. i will make myself el presidente. >> you don't have to do a work. >> a spanish soap opera. >> novella. >> do you speak spanish? >> have we met? >> you are puerto rican. >> we are going go to a break.
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up next, the double down step away. up next, interesting equipments in the irs scandal. president obama and eric holder promise to get the bottom of the what happened, but we are now learning that is not quite the case. the details directly ahead. nothing in the monitor to bump out.
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welcome back and it may be the worst of all of them for team obama. the president claimed he was angry. they said investigate and he
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would investigate and people would be held accountable. listen closely to this to the rest of it. >> i will not tolerate this behavior, but especially in the irs. given the power it had and the reach it had in all of our lives. we will hold the responsible parties accountable. >> anybody who has broken the law will be accountable. >> you don't know the lead investigator. >> i do not know. >> the tea party groups have not been contacted by law enforcement. should we believe they should get to the bottom of that? at least a couple of weeks after they started, they don't know who is investigating. >> that answer to me at the end there was unbelievable. they are asking the head of the fbi who is investigating this and he doesn't know who the head
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of the investigation is. he made up a name. >> that's what you do, bob. >> okay. at least i got away with it. >> i would have put my best guy on the cases. thises what they need answers to. >> why do you think? >> they are sitting back there not doing anything. they can't be. it's crazy. >> somebody is in the bush administration. >> to be honest with you, it's a fair analysis and question. there is a double standard here. even you think this is ridiculous that he can't answer. >>. >> i agree with that. >> it's not fair. >> it's not a bush and obama thing. >> it's not that he didn't make up a name. he didn't try to know the answer to a question that he in all likelihood had in advance. they get the questions in advance and even if he did get the question in advance. >> he didn't know who was leading and how many were assigned to it and didn't know
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the tea party groups were contacted. it's not like they asked him about kanye west and kardashian. >> do you think that really happened? this is a bad black eye for the administration. they need to get out in front of this better. the president and the white house, they are acting like parents who are trying to exhaust a kid so they will sleep at night. they are counting on us to pass out from the scandals. where is fema? where is fema? why aren't they at the white house? the probe is very high on the list with obama for things to do. it is under congratulating the first transgendered hockey player and visiting a solar panel farm run by vegans and given to a woman who treats obese rodents with hip no therapy. >> 5:21:35.
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welcome to the program. just a mistake for intentional operation. check it out. 66% say it was intentional. obama administration involving the targeting of conservative groups, he knew he did and didn't initiate it. only 24% said he had no involvement at all. >> they have this mess on their hands and they try to bring in somebody to if ings it. the worst. he is appointed to lead the investigation last week and he didn't know about bonuses given to the woman who led the targeting and his excuse was i don't have the right staff. there is 90,000 people working at the irs now and he doesn't have the right staff or enough staff? is he is logging on to her account on a paid vacation. they cover up more incompetence with more incompetence. >> go ahead. >> i was going to say if you are him and going up there, the
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first thick the staff will give you. anyone who has done it before knows, the first or second question, you get a question about the status of the investigation. that means you have to have somebody in charge. if that's the first thing i read, i turn around and the if, bi said okay. you are in charge. he can get away with it. to not know? >> he wanted to be evasive and not answer any questions and shield himself. he wants to exit quietly. he will not spill the beans. he should be filing tea party and conservative groups. finding out between what was going on at the nsa and groups being targeted by the irs. they probably thought well, we have justifications. >> he is at least six procedures. i don't know. >> i don't know why they are so scared of being held couldable. every person so far that has
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been held accountable has been promoted. look at it. look at the lady, the original irs. >> if you are incompetent, you get a promotion. if you are reallyincompetent, you can be president. the interesting thing here -- >> community organizer. >>. >> the lesson is that the only way to get rid of big government is through big government. sooner or later, it explodes. in a weird way, statism is like herpes. it am cans back and you remember how bad it is. we get rid of it. you try to limit it. >> you know a lot. >> ain't that the truth. >> they had an administration. you would be director of women's outreach. >> that's appropriate. >> coming up, a bird, a plane, it's super man. the highly anticipated man of steel is already flying high and smashing records on the first
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day of release. we will preview it and first, the newsroom is back for season two. spotlights among other things, a failed occupy wall street movement. what's up with hollywood's obsession. more on that next. 
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>> i just saw the trailer for the newsroom and you know what they are covering? it something evil called the tea
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party. >> they called the tea party the american taliban. >> they are on the house floor tomorrow. that's a good use of time. >> when they call them, they might get it. >> the news anchor gets halved for going after the tea party. they get a promotion at them for that. what about wall street? >> what was it called again? >> occupy wall street. >> when was this series written? before the rape and the murders and ows disappeared? hollywood gets everything wrong again. if they covered roman pi land ski's crime, they changed the 13-year-old girl. they sympathize it.
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it resurrected the victor. why robert redford got it. i can't wait until they become a kind elderly doctor and ariel castro is the team counsellor. jeffrey dahmer. no wonder left wing teachers are heroic and activists are hygienic. why there no sympathetic characters on tv and a right winger featured in a row and a biography on hitler. >> what's your take? is i watch the newsroom and i think it's a liberal fantasy. do you watch it and say that would be my perfect world? ? >> i watch it and a lot of it i like, here's one of the problems with liberal entertainment, if i could off road my view as a liberal.
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usually words like calling the tea party taliban, that's when we get ourselves in trouble. you can disagree which i do. you can find them to be outrageous, which i do. i was a sport of occupy wall street, but i didn't fall in love with them. you have to be careful about how you portray yourself. this is what you are doing. portraying yourself that the rest of us have to get into everybody is like that. i think they set themselves up. >> do you think the tea party will get a fair chak from anyone in hollywood? >> no. they villainize the tea party and put them on a pedestal. wasn't that in dumb and dumber. was he lloyd or harry? >> yes! >> this is the sequel. >> what do you think, andrea. i think he is a talented writer,
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but he would be more talented if he portrayed things as they were and it's always opposite day on his program. i have two questions. why does everybody talk like this and the television shows, why is the lighting so dark and the lights are always off, fwreg. >> i don't know. i like social network. that was a good movie. that's the only thing i like. >> it can be good. >> what happened to ows. where is it? >> they wish they had a toilet. >> the only thing occupy wall street has in common is violent attitudes and lack of hygiene. it's i had dickulous tridiculou. what is the tea party guilty of? not wanting an out of control irs? you mentioned and dumber. bad news for jim carrey fans.
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dumb and dumber too has been canceled. it was supposed to be the next sequel. because of carrey's lagging career with an anti-gun owner video and dance all over charl ton heston's grave, they decided to kill the movie. is that a tragedy or a success. >>. >> you reigniting your fight with him? are pa. >> single handedly brought it back and that opened it up. i thought dumb and dumber was funny. >> hilarious. >> i don't know, would i like to see a sequel? >> no the when you deal with it in real life. >> occupy wall street with the rapes and the rest of the stuff that was bad, they had as much right to protest their government. >> peacefully and nonviolently and not committing crimes against women.
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>> they were trying to root for the little guy and the cop and the union worker was cleaning up their messes down there. they have no respect. that i had no real message. the arab spring has been a complete disaster. occupy wall street didn't last long enough. >> that's over. >> directly ahead, is charm dead. some writer thinks so. we are going to discuss it next on the farm.
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♪ welcome back. okay, guys, it's time for us to have a heart to heart. have you lost the ability to be charming with the ladies. few men these days have it and few want it. they allege that men are too self-absorbed or guarded, distracted and disengaged. they fail to use the sort of obvious standards that have guys to etiquette and the art of conversation 50 years ago. that's not the case with bob, eric and greg, but have most men given up on the charm factor. what do you think? hard to find a truly charming man? forget the guy sitting next to
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you for one second. what did you just ask me? >> is my tongue split? why are you asking that? and. >> you are sitting next to me and you can see it. >> what is charm? >> it's my most important organ. anyway, most men i know haven't lost their charm. there is a few that need a little charm tune up, i think. perhaps in terms of being positive, we should give them some advice, right? about what they can do to be more charming. >> what can they do? is it. >> buy me iced lattes. >> when people associate charm, this magazine looks at the men of the past, specifically old hollywood. carrey grant, paul newman, robert wagner. robert redfort, warren beatty and the ultimate charmer, my
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favorite, jfk jr. men of a past era. is that era gone? >> is there a reason you are posing this question to me? >> no. >> i think charm to me is being engaged enough in people's life. charming is -- do you care about people and are you willing to go out of your way to help people. there is too much narcissim america. i agree. people just live in their own world and don't much think about other people. >> you can be very charming. the viewers may not believe it it, but you can be generous and kind and a good listener. >> he is always charming and nice. very nice to ladies. >> do you think maybe women feel this way because it could be their fault. they demanded men don't open the door for me and i can pay my own bills. guys are scared. >> that is a very, very legitimate argument. i try to open the door all the time and sometimes you get a
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look like don't do that. >> the women's bathroom, eric. >> but we talked about this. this is different from being charming. when he gets a trophy and all this nonsense. that's different. charm should always be. >> generally speaking, men want to be charming and take care of women and love women and the relationships i have had in my life, i want to get greg in here. you are an expert because you are an editor of men's health. and stuff. did men ever write in and ask about how to be charming or did you do a piece on tips for men? >> it story speaks to me ba united states it has the elements of trend pieces. they always say okay, let's get old pictures of hollywood men. what happened to class and
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charm? okay. they film guys that are handsome and rich. of course that's charming. the other thing is what if he wrote an article and why are women such trash? you would be fired. that's what you said. i will say this. there is an element of truth. >>ed under tones. >> anti-male. do guys have to -- i was talking about men. can i finish? >> no. i haven't even waited on my advice. go ahead. are. >> oh, yeah. do guys have to try? you talk to women in new york and they feel like they have to lower their standards in the dating world. sometimes you don't expect men to pay for the dinner because men are so ambivalent. this is the real issue. men are preoccupied with pornography, sazual sex and men don't really need to try anymore. women are stuck with guys who are like if you are not going to
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give it to me now, i will find somebody or something that will. >> something that will. >> women have lowered the standards and a couple of pieces of advice, the gentlemen open the doors and always pour a woman's wine. don't be afraid to be a man. women like it. if they don't, guess what. probably not a good partner down the road anyway. don't be selfish and talk about yourself. be a good listener. bob is good at that. greg is funny. be generous, bowling is very generous. always pay the bill unless she offers. be kind and complimentary and my favorite, if a woman looked tired or frazzled, ask if you can help. >> up next, super man is next and the buzz is the super hero is better than ever. >> it's not an s. >> in my world it means hope.
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>> here's it's an s. how about -- >> kexcuse me. >> the movie you can't miss. don't go anywhere. man of steel movie you can't miss after the break. don't go anywhere!
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♪ >> welcome back. man of steel. the latest edition of the super man franchise is soring into the record books and it is reportedly set to break roars as well. here's a sneak peek at the super hero in action. >> the kind of man you want to grow up to be. >> whoever that man is. he's going to change the world. >> i'm used to super man when i
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was a kid. he came out of the phone booth and all that stuff. i didn't understand a damn thing about it. the father's day deal sell to go see super man. >>. >> i requested that and go to a barbecue after that. the movie looks fantastic. a couple of great things. >> bat man. >> another great thing. kevin costner and a lot of christianity references. really looking for it. it will break a lot of records. between cross promotion, it earned over $100 million locally. you interested this seeing it? >> it's getting not so great ratings because of the christianity under tones. the same story with heavenly father sends his son to earth to save earth. russell and the earthly father is kevin costner. >>. >> they argue he was jewish because he was setting up.
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anyway, greg, i'm sure you are good at waiting in line to watch this. >> i went through my super hero phase when i was 13. i have no desire to see the movies. >> you believe in uniform. >> i still run around in my under-s. >> where do you get those? >> do you find it charming? >> i totally do. and hot. >> what's hot about it? >> super man. >> i'm a super man, but you don't find me hot. >> super for a different reason. super freak. >> it's my segment, so i'm out of here. one more thing that is up next.
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back for more thing. >> happy father's day to fathers like bob and eric. we have been talking a lot about
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charming men and good fathers on the show. my father was both charming and a great provider and protector. he taught his kids to be good to others and the true meaning of hard work. you should never apologize for success and the loyalty and being a loyal friend. he was tough and strong and very good. a good bad. a real man and a wonderful father. he passed in 2009 and i miss him ever day. he said people are not mind readers. you have to ask if are what you want. what's the worst that can happen? you are not going to die. i get to live it out every day. thank you, date. i miss you. >> the other night on o heily, the other show, he asked me would i have voted for obama knowing the nsa thing going on. i wouldn't have voted for anybody overseeing something like that.
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i don't know if we have got anything there. bob is a closet conservative. bob, have you finally seen the light? beckle is starting to grow on me. glad to have you wake up, bob. god bless you beckle. i am a liberal, but that doesn't mean i have to give up my constitutional rights. >> you go, bob. >> that are doesn't mean he would vote for mitt romney. he would vote for ralph nader. i came up with this awesome bumper sticker about obama care. bend over. i am such a genius. it's amazing since about a year earlier, somebody else came up with the same thing. these guys have put out something that looks like this. i am not really a genius at all. maybe we both are. you have to give credit for these guys for coming up with it first. i made a new one based on a
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bumper sticker for obama scare. baby on board until 26. that was interesting. mine is funny because there is a lot of proposals on facebook. in particular has a chicken s d sandwich with a ring in it. i had them and they are tasty. he had the ring in it and gave it to her and she the sandwich and kept the ring? i don't know. my first proposal was in ice cream ca. you kidding me? >> i almost -- >> you know me. i almost ate it. numero uno. >> in the ice cream. >> happy -- >> 64th flag day june 14th.
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display your flag from sunrise to sunset. raise it quickly and lower iter is moanuously. >> that's it. happy father's day. see you monday. >> welcome to "red eye." it is like all in the family if by all you mean me and byd ey family you mean hot tub, alone m and weeping. let's go to tv's andy levy for a pre game report. andy, what is cupping up -- cupping up? what is going down is what i meant to say. it has been a long day. >> thanks, bro.ng u coming up on the big show, acra 8-minute locrazy woman videos long racist rant at a dunkin' donuts. bonus points if you can guess she is from florida. >> and the scandal is entering the second week which means itt is time to take a hard-hitting look of the blog of the former girlfriend of leaker snowdenment and our -- snowden. and are twitter and facebook

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