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the obama administration is now taking a more aggressive stand in syria's bloody 2-year-old civil war. for the first time, president obama has authorized sending in u.s. weapons to struggling syrian rebels fighting against the assad regime. hello, everybody. let's get right to it to the very latest on what impact the u.s. could have now in a conflict that has left more than 90,000 people dead. elizabeth is joining us live on details. >> the cia is running the program which will deliver the weapons and initiate the training of syrian rebels. we learned arming the rebels
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will take place through turkey. there are already thousands of u.s. troops in jordan for an annual exercise. reports are 300 marines have been deployed to northern jordan to lay the groundwork. and an anti-aircraft missile system designed to protect the territory from attack missiles has also been stationed there. the administration's national security adviser ben rhodes makes the case for why the administration has ruled out putting boots on the ground. >> we certainly don't think it's in our national interest to introduce u.s. troops. we need to be humble about our ability to solve a problem like syria. certainly on our own. >> republican senator john mckab, an advocate for intervention, says aid is welcome, but more is needed. he says opposition forces need heavy weaponry and a no-fly zone in place. >> for us to sit by and watch these people being massacred, raped, tortured in the most
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terrible fashion, meanwhile, the russians are all in, hezbollah is all in and we're talking about giving them more light weapons? i mean, it's insane. and let me just tell you, it is turning into a regional conflict. >> the participation participating in talks like night with britain and france. russian officials speaking out today saying any attempt to enforce a no-fly zone would violate international law. radio talk show host and foreign affairs expert monica childs is joining us now with reaction. hello, monica. great do you see today. >> hey, hi. nice to see you, too. a big concern among many who are reluctant for the u.s. to get involved in the syrian conflict is what if we supply military aid to the rebels, we don't know who these folks are,
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particularly since we've heard before that there are some rebels tied to al qaeda and other extremist groups. if we provide them weapons, for example, how do we know they won't be diverted and used for future terrorist attacks against us? >> that's precisely the question, uma. and we ran into the same situation in libya when we were arming rebels there to overthrow omar ka kadafi. now we are on the cusp of getting more deeply involved in syria when we know those rebels -- this war has been going on for two years. maybe at the beginning there were some real authentic democrats with a little "d," democrats that wanted to overthrow assad. but now we know that the vast majority of those rebels have pledged loyalty to al qaeda. what we now have, syria is now a proxy war between the united
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states and russia and another proxy war between the united states and iran, which backs assad and backs hezbollah. we're going to get more deeply entrenched in this kind of war, arming our enemies that are sworn against us like al qaeda and the muslim brotherhood, for example. this is an extremestrea extreme situation. his regime is odious. he's a brutal, murderus tyrant. but the question we need to ask ourselves is twofold. number one, what are our national interests here at stake? are there any? and i really don't think so. and number two, if assad falls and a power vacuum is created there, who is best prepared to step in? the folks that are best prepared to step in are the islamists. it's al qaeda, the muslim brotherhood. if, in fact, they take power in syria, you will end up with a regime in there that is going to be far worse for u.s. interests and extremely anti-israel. >> monica, stand by. we need to pause for this alert.
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just in, another big player in the syrian conflict, iran. this just in, the country now has a new president. the candidate baed by the opposition and reformist political factions hasan rohani has won the election. turnout in friday's election was unbelievably high. 72% of the country's eligible voters weighing in on this election. monica, let me get some reaction from you on this latest news. >> yeah. it will be very interesting to see how this shakes out. we know the mullahs were favoring a different kind of candidate. we'll see what happens between them and the new president. keep in mind that the iranians always act within their own national interest regardless of who their president is. they have backed assad and continue to back hezbollah.
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the iranians aren't really going to change their foreign policy course and that's what we have to pay close attention to. >> on the syria question, the president is saying the white house made this decision to intervene weeks ago. and the recent confirmation that assad used sarin gas on some of his people there provides the concrete justification for going ahead with this effort. but critics are saying, even if you jump in at this point, it's too little too late. what do you say? >> yeah, look, the credibility of the commander in chief is on the line as well as the credibility of the united states. when the commander in chief of the united states speaks, his words carry serious weight. so months ago, uma, when he talked about the red line and how there will be serious consequences if syria were to cross that red line, well, that carried a lot of weight. and both our allies in the region like israel and our adversaries in the region like iran, hezbollah and others, they paid attention to that, too, and
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then there was no action. now he's going to divert some light arms and some -- do some weapons training for some of these al qaeda muslim brotherhood rebels. at this point, i'm not sure, it's kind of pointless. so, look, you've got a dynamic here where we could argue that, in fact, the obama adminiing these folks all along. there are reports that this is what benghazi was all about, that benghazi was a central depot where they were trying to mop up some of the weapons that we provided to al qaeda and the muslim brotherhood in libya and divert them to the syrian rebels. and then, of course, we had that devastating terrorist attack on september 11th, mainly as a result of this. so perhaps this is not even a new policy. maybe it's just this policy made public. but the american people need to know what we're getting involved here. if this president has any intention of going any deeper, this is a proxy war, again, between the u.s. and russia and the u.s. and iran. >> thank you so much for joining us with your insights. we appreciate it. >> you got it.
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thanks, uma. over the last few months, a number of lawmakers have been pressing the white house to take more aggressive steps to bring down the asass regime. among them, senior republican in the senate oran hatch who says sending weapons to the rebels is long overdue. i caught up with the senator soon after the senate broke. the most senior republican in the senate says he supports a no-fly zone there. let's talk for a moment about the recent news that we are going to be stepping up our aid to syria in terms of the military response. how do you feel about that? >> it's about time. i was pleased when president clinton came out and said this administration is not doing the right job here and that they need to support the people who are planning against assad. and frankly, for us to let them get beaten up like we have, it's almost amoral. and i have to say, i don't like
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to criticize my own administration, but i have to say i think they really let down not just syria, but the world. >> do you support a no-fly zone? >> yes, yeah. i think -- i don't want to get us involved in another conflict. on the other hand, we certainly can help those people who are fighting for what they consider to be freedom. >> the white house has said that if the evidence was found that the president was going to use chemical weapons against his own people, that that would be crossing a red line. so is this enough of a response now that there's documented evidence? >> well, the administration has known for weeks now that they used chemical weapons and that it may have been used sparingly, but sparingly is too much. . and the president is fond of setting red lines and fond of drawing lines in the sapd, but people cross them all the time
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and nothing is done about it. you can't just sit back and do that and be respected in this world. frankly, i don't think the president is that respected. >> let's move on now to an issue that has many americans concerned given recent revelations by the nsa that people -- phone records are being monitored as well as perhaps e-mail records, as well. so do you think that this is going to have a negative in the long-term for america? because some are really saying this goes against our constitution. >> well, keep in mind, this has been noin about for a long time. i've known about this for years. i was on the intelligence committee. i was the longest serving person there. what they're doing is protecting our country, they're doing it within constitutional constraints and this has been blown way out of proportions. >> so you don't think it violate tess fourth amendment? >> no, i don't think at all. and i've known about this for quite a while. now, you know, you get the wrong administration in there and,
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yeah, they could just -- they could abuse those processes. but that's true about anything. i can tell you there are all kinds of hedges and checks and balances during this process. and it's being done the right way. >> and are you confident that this information has led to the capture of terrorists and thwarted some terrorist plots that could have been unleashed on the world? >> yes, i'm very confident in that and i know some of the things that have been done and i think that our legal community, our intelligence community, our justice department has worked very, very well together. and this includes democrats, republicans and everybody. >> talk about an issue now that i know is very important to you regarding immigration reform. where do things stand right now? there was an amendment proposed in the senate this week about offering up security before discussing anything about
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immigration reform. should there be security in place before you discuss other reform measures on an immigration bill? >> well, i think there are many, many areas that have to be discussed. but i'm not for it if we can't make these very important change that really have to be made. in that regard, i compliment the gang of eight. i particularly compliment marco rubio. marco has worked his tail off to try and make sure that we get this right, that he listened to everybody and there are others there, as well, in the gang of eight that has proven to be a tremendous leader in this area. ears worked with me on my amendment. i think they'll bring people on board and they'll cause american citizens to be happy with what's going on. >> what's the one thing you want people to understand about your amendment that makes the difference, the assurance that this is a bill that can be taken seriously and can be regarded as one that talks about peer
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reform? >> it's a question of appearance. we're not asking them, the immigrants, the professional immigrants to do any more than we ask ourselves. for instance, a lot of them have not paid their taxes. we -- they ought to have to fess up and pay their taxes before they get on the path to citizenship. that's nothing more or less than what we require of every american citizen with regard to obama care. american citizens had to wait five years to get on obama care. i don't think it's inappropriate to ask them to wait for five years before they get on obama care. these are just common otherwise questions of fairness that every american citizen has to meet. why shouldn't these folks have to meet them? it would be a good experience for them to know that there are on obligations when you become a citizen of the united states of america. >> thanks to senator hatch for his insight owes these issues. turning to other issues,
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facebook and microsoft now revealing how many surveillance requests they are receiving for information about their users. the companies are saying that they have received thousands of requests from u.s. government agencies for user data, all in just the last six months of 2012. national security officials giving facebook and microsoft permission to make limited revelations about government orders requesting user data. facebook general counsel reveals that it received between 9,000 and 10,000 government requests on various topics. microsoft revealing similar numbers on requests on criminal and national security warrants, subpoenas and other orders. and we invite you to join us for fox news sunday this weekend. former vice president dick cheney will be weighing in on the nsa leak and the privacy issues. check your local listing for the time and the channel.
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the house judiciary committee is saying it expects to get answers from eric holder next week concerning the investigation of force news reporter han did he n. molly. >> republican congressman bob goodlatt of virginia, the chair of the house judiciary committee has said attorney general eric holder has agreed to respond in writing by the end of business on wednesday and brief lawmakers in a closed door session in the coming weeks. specifically, the lawmakers want to know why holder seemed to tell the committee in mid-may that he did not approve an investigation into james owesen's e-mails, phone calls and comes and goingings, but then later said he, holder, did sign off on the warrant. this is regarding the search warrant they obtained from james
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rowsen's e-mail. the american people and congress deserve answers on this important matter and accountability from attorney general holder. we expect to have all of questions answered completely. holder testified before the house judiciary committee on may 15th and he was asked about the rosen leak investigation. this is what he told lawmakers. . >> with regard to the potential prosecution of the press for the disclosure of material, that is not something that i've ever been involved in, heard of or would think would be a wise policy. >> the justice department followed up on that by saying james rosen was never prosecuted, so holder's statement is accurate been. >> molly, thank you. protesters in turkey are saying they will continue with their two-week-long sittin. this as supporters of turkey's prime minister gear up for their own government demonstration
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this weekend. joining us live now for istanbul at this hour with the latest on protesters and police is galen. >> uma, right now the crowd cheers. you can look down into the park which heads into tax in the square. crowds continue to cheer for the president to resign. we haven't seen any violence here. but back over that hill is where the riot police are napping, armed with rubber bullets, tear gas, the same weapons that were used last night in the capital of istanbul. there are a number of people right there. remember, this all began over a redevelopment project, but the heavy handed police tactics
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having brought out a lot of anger from around the country who accuse the minister into something of a dictatorship. they also say that he's turning turkey into an islamic state. as you walk around the protests, a number of the people who are camped out here in the tents, that's exactly what they're telling us that they are angry about. and they say it's fine if he wants to offer concessions about what toad with the park here, but they're saying right now they want to make sure that they are not in a position where the prime minister continues to do whatever he wants by decree. on the other side, the prime minister enjoys a lot of support all around this country as evidenced by a large rally that he had, tens of thousands of supporters chanting his name, chanting his support. he came out and gave a speech in which he once again said these protesters only have a certain amount of time to leave, what exactly that period of time will be, we don't know. the protesters for their part say they are not leaving and right now i can tell you that
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here, down at the protests they are getting ready for clashes, medics handing out things to be antidotes to the tear gas and those kinds of things. uma, back to you. >> leon, thank you very much. and when he will have more reaction to the growing issues in turkey. students studying in that country say the situation is much different than what's being shown in the international media. i will be talking to one of the students who is involves in the collapse. plus -- >> we're going to play brand new tape from that frightening moment when that deck collapsed in florida. but first, a conversation with chuck grassley on where
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here. >> what's the address? >> it's -- i don't even know what the address is. >> try to calm down, okay? >> very intense. 911 calls now being released from just moments after thursday's scary deck collapse near miami beach, florida. this new cell phone video shows the chaotic scene at the time. about two dozen people were injured when the water front deck at a sports bar collapsed into biscayne bay as they watched in horror the nba finals. investigators are still examining the wreckage to find out just what caused that accident. >> well, the first attempt to change senate's gang of eight immigration bill has failed. that amendment introduced by the top republican on the judiciary committee chuck grassley. grassley argues that we must secure or borders for six months
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before offering any steps towards citizenship. thank you so much for joining us, sir. >> thank you, uma. glad to be with you. this week by a vote of 57-43, senators rejected your proposal to delay the legalization process until the department of homeland security can certify for six months that it has effective control of our boarders. a number of your republican colleagues even voted against it. why has this been so difficult to push for bord before get ago green card? >> there's a lot of people that feel that border security is not a very important thing. and i learned from 1986, because i was there, that we thought we secured the border and then legalized 3 million people that were here undocumented. just a few years later, we found out that we didn't secure the border and we found out that you legalized illegality and you get
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more of it, so we have 12 pem million people here that are undocumented. so we have to learn a lesson from that, secure the border first and then legalize. this is a legalized first, enforce later piece of legislation, but it's not being sold that way. so my amendment was to make kind of a truth in advertising. what the group of ate says their bill is supposed to do, i want to make sure it does that. >> president ronald reagan at the believed they would be that. fox news told americans about this issue and we found the majority of americans support border security before offering a pathway to citizenship. >> i think they're sincere in thinking that the secretary puts forth a plan.
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and that plan is enough, then, to guarantee you the border is going to be secured and then have legalization at that point six months later. what i tried to do was to make sure that the plan worked and then six months later put legalization into effect. so, you know, they're secure, but they're misguided. >> senator grassley, we appreciate you joining us today on the phone with your insights on this. i know you're going to continue fighting for border security and we will to update the story as the developments occur on the hill there. thank you. >> thank you very much. we want to turn now to your turn when it's time to pick the news of the day. this is a chance for you to let us know what you think about some of the more colorful stories that caught our eye this week. and we're going to share one that got the most votes later in our show. here are some of your choices. high note, how passengers stuck on the runway for hours turned
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thsh r their boar come. and find out how a unicorn made it through customs in turkey. and lastly, facebook fella, how one man's facebook landed him in shale. we're going to read the one you picked at the end of the show. after lots of back and forth, attorney general eric holder is willing to answer the house judiciary committee's questions. what does the committee hope to learn? we're going to talk to how judiciary committee member louis gohmert coming up live, next. and a 41-foot yart burst into flames in florida, leaving the crew with no choice but to jump the verizon share everything plan for small business
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. you're looking live at day three of the faith and freedom coalition conference. right now were sarah palin is speaking. governor palin is coming back to fox news. she will be making her first appearance on fox and friends come monday morning. she has speakers from rick perry, jeb bush and senators rand paul and marco rubio. all right. the big question, what exactly did attorney general know about the justice department's surveillance of fox news reporter adjacent rosen? that's among the questions the house judiciary committee wants answered next week. joining us now, l on you louie
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gohmert. >> i'm not surprised because of the way he says he's going to answer them. not do them personally. that's when you do some good, when they say something. when you can provide written answers, there are so many ways around it, the vaguery. we've seen when the department of justice came out for older, even though clearly, his credibility is an issue. and eric holder's credibility has been shot. and so the department of justice came out defending him. he made his -- the doj into a criminal defense firm. and now they will help him
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prepare answers that they keep vague. so i'm not -- i'm not happy with that. i know chairman goodlatte is doing the best he can to get to the bottom of it. we'll see what ericer holder has to say. he's agreed to meet with him blowingingly? it doesn't help you a whole lot, i wouldn't think. those things are so important to the credibility of this justice department, it needs to be open. they need to give america a little faith again and justice. >> do you think he's taking this step as a result of the public pressure for him to come forward, to be more specific and to answer your questions related to this issue in a way that offers more credibility? >> i think he's doing this because exactly of the public pressure.
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i don't know if this means just us because that's the way it appears. i think if it weren't enough public pressure, we would not get a response. it wouldn't be the first time the justice department has dismissed a response time. so -- and that even happened under the bush administration. you get upset and there's enough public pressure, they respond. but we have an obligation to get credibility back to the justice department. i don't believe it's going to happen with this attorney general. when you have an attorney general that comes before you, as he has, and says i only learned about that a few weeks ago and then we find out it was at least ten months before and you ask him about it, he says three weeks, ten months, what's the difference? the difference is perjury or not perjury. so anyway, he has a lot of ground to make up and i don't think he can make it up. but i like being an advocate for freedom. but here is where we may put on
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our former judge hats and see what he has to offer and then decide where to go from there. but i'm not happy with this being all they're offering to do. i think we need to say no, we are not going to meet with you off the record behind closed doors. let's have this open. so i won't betray classified or confidential communications, but i want this stuff publicly. and i know the american public does, the people that are paying attention. >> so we can expect to hear from you on the record after this meeting takes place? >> absolutely. we look forward to hearing from you. >> thank you very much.
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love your show. >> thank you very much, indeed. so what's really going on inside those turkey protests? up next, one of the demonstrators will talk to us live. he says it's not what you've been seeing in the mainstream media. we'll be talking with her, next. stay with us. with the spark miles card from capital one, bjorn earns unlimited rewas for his small business take theseags to room 12 please. [ garth ] bjors small busiss earns double miles on every purchase every day. produce delivery. [ bjorn ] just put it on my spark card. [ garth why settle for less? ahh, oh! [ garth ] great businesses deserve limited reward here's your wake up call. [ male announcer ] get the spark business card from capital one and earn unlimited rewards. choose double miles or 2% cash back on every purchase every day. what's in your wallet? [ crows ] now where's the snooze button? ♪
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welcome back, everybody. it's been two weeks and anti-government protesters in turkey are still camping out to stop the outrage towards the administration. this as tens of thousands of progovernment supporters rally alongside them. joining us now is a turkish national and student at university in istanbul.
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she says social media has played an important rule in getting this story out. for her safety, she has asked that we not use her name. welcome. thank you for joining us today. >> thank you. >> you feel the images that we've been seeing here in the west does not reflect what's going on in your country. you claim the government is heavily involved in censorship and trying to squash social media. can you tell us more about this? >> censorship was a serious issue while on the -- especially on the first days of the protests. and we couldn't see as many of the turkish people watching foreign channels for what'son. on the television we mostly watched penguin documentaries, which is really funny, actually. and the social media was a really -- is really effective in the way that people found each
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other and became a group to run these protests together. but right now, the government says that 5 million tweets were under investigation to find out if there was any malicious intent under these events and if there was any organization -- organizing these events. >> so the government is monitoring the tweets that are going out? >> yes. >> you know, many people are upset with prime minister erdogan saying he's trying to impose a more islamic type of government on the turkish people. do you feel this is true? >> i think one of the reasons these protests go on is that the secular tradition in turkey isn't clash with the -- is contradicting with the religious and conservative policies that are exerted upon now. and i think that it is true. >> and you expect these protests to go on, then? >> could you repeat, lease. >> do you expect the protests to
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continue? >> i think if the -- right now -- is in the judiciary. and if the judiciary decides that the park will stay as it is, the protests will not be as it is now, but i can say that it accomplishes -- created by these events. so they may continue. >> all right. thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate your insight and stay safe. >> thank you. and joining us now with his reaction, middle east experience and expert at the hoover institution, rohr agami. thanks for being here. >> thank you very much. >> is it what started out as a protest in the park against developers who wanted to build a shopping center there is what many perceive is a growing infringement of rights in a secular society? >> you're absolutely right. it's not the about the trees, it's not about the park. it's about the direction that
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prime minister erdogan has taken turkey to. turkey has a great split between the tradition, the founder, this great man who died in 1939 and this new islamic direction. that's what the fight is all about. the trees are just a pretext. >> what is your reaction to the heavy handed tactics this prime minister has used to impose law and order in this country? >> it's really a disappointment. erdogan is not gadhafi. he's not a dictator in that mold. he's been elected three times since 2002. this is a man with a mandate. and he didn't really have to face the protesters in the heavy handed way he did. but that's very much his t temperament of mr. erdogan. mr. erdogan comes from a neighborhood that's a tough neighborhood.
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he himself prides himself on being a tough man. but there are instances and times and circumstances where you don't just need toughness. you also need wisdom. and that's what's been missing in this confrontation. >> but no doubt, these protests are having an impact on the region. what do you see as a fallout here? >> well, that's absolutely right. he was selling to the region this whole package of islamism and success for the economy. he took the show on the road. he took that package to all of the arab states, the so-called arab springs. even as these protests were raging in his own country, he was touring morocco and indonesia. i was in istanbul and watching him pedalling his package to the north africans while his country was boiling. so i think the package that
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erdogan presented to the world, this idea that develops the economy has been severely damaged in the last event. >> always great to see you. we thank you so much for your insights on what is obviously a troubling situation there in that part of the worth. thank you for joining us. >> thank you very much. wildfires rage on in colorado springs. we're going to go there live on a fire that has burned 15,000 acres as of friday. stay with us. hey. they're coming. yeah. british. later. sorry. ok...four words... scarecrow in the wind... a baboon... monkey? hot stew saturday!? ronny: hey jimmy, how happy are folks who save hundreds of
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smoke in a yacht fire. the two people on board that yacht jumped into the water to escape the blaze. both men were eventually rescued with no injuries. now to a story that continues to raise big concerns. firefighters are making some progress against the most destructive wildfire in colorado's history. the pictures are simply amazing. check out this picture of a baseball game in a town near colorado springs. the massive billowing smoke did not delay the game, though. alicia is live in colorado springs with a look at what's helping to give firefighters the upper hand. alicia. >> reporter: hi, uma. a late day rain shower on friday was a tremendous help to firefighters and helped them bring containment to 30%, but not before 473 homes were
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destroyed in the black forest fire. and that is so far. this shatters the record number of homes lost in last years's waldo canyon fire. the sheriff and incident commander both say they feel crews have turned a corner in what seemed like an insurmountable fight. still, there is so much to do. >> i've heard talk of minor victories and small victories. it's not a victory yet. there's still a lot of work to be done out there on the fire. the firefighters are still out there in force. we have not released anybody. >> a portion of the mandatory evacuation orders have been lifted. not in the burned out areas, however. tens of thousands of people remain out of their homes at this time as the fight continues. now, we will receive a briefing at noon mountain time and we will bring you updates as they come. uma. >> alicia, thank you very much for that update.
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time now for the story that wins our viewer's choice this week, it's facebook villain. a maryland man is now behind bars thanks to a lame attempt at being clever. he criticized the queen ann county sheriff's department on his facebook page. deputies thanked him for his input and added, by the way, we still have a warrant out for your arrest. check out the most wanted page. deputies picked him up. don't worry if your favorite wasn't picked this time. that's going to do it for us here in washington.
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but before we go, i want to wish all the great fathers out there a happy father's day tomorrow and i want to say a special thank you to my dad. thanks for all your love and support over the years. you're the best. have a great day, everybody. after weeks of trying to dismiss allegations that he reportedly lied under oath while testifying before congress, attorney general eric holder has now agreed to finally set times -- or set the record straight. hello, everyone. i'm kelly rice. >> and i'm patti ann brown. welcome to a new hour inside america's news quarters. holder will meet with committee leaders next week in a closed door session to explain questionable testimony in which he initially said he had no knowledge of the justice department's controversial surveillance of u.s. journalists. this despite his having personally signed off on a warrant for a private e-mail
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