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>>. >> neil: they might be watching you. is it time to start watching them? glad to have you on neil cavuto. watch out apparently washington does not want you to find out much at all about the snooping. senators closing the door on another secure briefing this week. let me say that is what pretty weak. doesn't the public deserve better? this man of steel who might be smashing box office records this weekend. this man of steel that wants to smack down those doors. [ laughter ] why are they laughing?
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which one of these will have their mic -- [ laughter ] >> super hero, tagen mcdowell and charles payne and ben stein and who will it be. charles, what do you think? >> the secret meetings about the secret recordings that the american people still aren't sure about. listen, at some point, we need to get more than a memo telling what they did. we deserve answers and be in on it. if they have to talk about. i think it's an affront. i think they have contempt for the american people and contempt for the constitution. i think they just don't care. >> i think its delicate balance when you dealing with national security and the hearings behind closed doors. i don't know some things about it, that a good thing because the terrorists
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don't know about certain things. i do the have a problem with it. >> neil: terrorists are finding other ways around this thanks to the leaks? >> we know terrorists are finding other ways around it. boston or london to know that. of course, dagen is right. it's a balance and you don't ever want another 9/11 or anything remotely close to it. what you got with the leaker is true, that he could listen to phone calls and emails of every person in the world, especially every person in the united states, that is terrifying situation. and it's far worse than what we thought. >> which general alexander denied. he said that was false. >> neil: gasparino, what do you think? >> i don't believe everything here is like top secret. i think there is degree of information that we can get
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out of this that does not violate security concerns. listen, when you have of this problems from this administration, i do worry about this administration whether it's jais james rosen, the irs or this stuff. i'm a reporter. i can put things totaling and come with a story. i worry about the story about this administration. we should at least some insight into this stuff. >> neil: adam? >> cut the balance between charles and charlie. i'm a reporter, too. i favor openness. we, of course, charles we deserve answers here, but this is national security. if there is one instance where we can agree that let's let them have their conversations in secret. then absolutely report the findings. >> why is the information that this guy snowden said you can listen to any calls, why is that not national security.
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that is an affront to our individual freedom. this is the beauty of our system. you don't have to like congress. most of us don't, but our elected representatives have been grilled on this. >> i don't think it answers the question. it's a different question what gave these guys the right to listen to every conversation in america. and general alexander he is not allowed to do it but obviously he was allowed to do. >> why does it violator national security interests? >> neil: to get back, if this is going on, a lot of people express no surprise. many senators have different points of view on this. when i told him, president said you knew about this, i didn't, neil. so it comes do we as taxpayers want an okay on this in the name of
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defending our lives? >> to your point. what is this. what are we okaying? they have a blank check is the problem. >> it's security concerns. >> it's on the word of some guy who -- >> some n washington they don't know. >> i think we do know a lot about it and they wrote about this data mining back in 2006. that is when we first knew bit. >> neil: you might be perfectly fine with it. i'm not saying they are up to nefarious purposes. maybe that is the step before you do start listening to the calls. so people, these are piled on somebody's desk. next step is that. >> i remember when in 2003,
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they broke the story. it is a great scoop, but i will tell you this, i wrote a book based on that stuff. when they talk about things you have to go to a judge and all that stuff. those are rubber stamped decisions. >> neil: ben stein? >> and last week. i think charles payne said 170 million calls to yemen? the second thing is, does anyone really seriously believe they are going to get the record of other phone numbers and phone number of the call and not listen into the calls. >> i do believe they are running algorithms on them and vast amounts of data and looking for patterns.
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>> and they listen to the phone calls? >> i think to go through the proper channel and there are checks and balances in place. >> this is where i agree with what dagen is trying to argue. it's not as this is being swept under the carpet. we do want it investigated. it is being investigated, but it's not something that should be investigated with everybody listening. >> neil: you just read my mind. >> the likes of google and facebook push back on these government requests. >> they just discovered something else. >> i trust google and facebook over that dufus in hong kong any day. >> i trust the guy in hong kong. >> neil: i wish we had more
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nearly 500 homes reduced to ashes. most mandatory evacuation orders have now been lifted. i'm heather childers and back to cavuto business. log on to foxnews.com. i'll see you back here at 6:00. ♪ ♪ >> neil: this may have you burning, i'm not talking protestors ruining the american flag. i'm talking about egyptian politician. i'm very fond of battles with the enemy, of course, with america and israel. never mind we just gave his country $1.3 billion in military aide, i think we're up to $10 billion for this very shaky ruling government. charles payne, that is slap in the face. >> we've been getting slap in the face since the end of world war ii, we have given trillion dollars
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away. we always get push back. no one is grateful. it's amazing this is so much you can do. judeo-christian nation we believe in helping out others. it has to come with strings attached. >> neil: you have to see that meeting. opposition leader he is saying this outlandish stuff but they are nodding their heads. it's really like over the top. >> it was really shocking and maybe now is time to do a cost benefit analysis. >> neil: but we never do. >> now is the time to do that. >> foreign aid does serve a purpose, we have some relationship. this is vital part of what we do. >> neil: what do we get for
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it? >> it's not iran yet but we get some degree of stability. >> and desperately trying to buy our friends, but to put a deposit on their hatred? >> i mean look, by the way, if we base decisions on what every member of every legislature including our own says, we would be on pretty thin ground here. >> neil: we don't have money to give away anyway. if we are hoping to provide stability that is ultimate any our interests and we're not getting that because the country's were giving it to are no big fans, why continue digging a deeper hole? >> the critical parted, we give them that money in for our interests. we are playing long ball. we can't -- sure we should examine it and do a cost benefit analysis. we make investments now.
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>> neil: nothing is coming up here. ben? >> we have been giving aid to these arab countries for a very long time. they almost all hate us. i think interesting question would be, we're going to keep doing it, by the way, as charles, if not iran. >> neil: who is next? >> what is the alternative giving money -- >> we can't give them nothing and then they'll hated us more. $1.3 billion is a drop in the bucket. >> we have given iran a whole lot of money when the shah was in power. >> he was our good friend. >> but carter got rid of shaw. if carter set up with the shah it would be a
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different world. >> we gave a lot in foreign aid and many of the countries do not flip over. we can do analysis but we are now in a position where we don't have 9 money to do this. we have to size up, what are we getting for this? we're getting bang but not the kind of bang we wanted. >> i can tell you it's not a world if you walk down the street in israel and talk about the united states and what we've begin them. israelis start to cry with gratitude. >> but that is israel we're talking about. >> with egypt, how much money? >> it's not that much money. >> over behind billion dollars. >> by the way, we had a friend in that part of the world. >> i hear that out. few decades of relative
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peace or stability, the s better than a revolution. >> i think it was worth it. they are kind of a friend. i don't know. its delicate balance. it's a delicate balance. >> neil: all these people sicken me. [ laughter ] >> you know the only way you relate it i have relatives give money and they still don't think i give them enough. >> that is good point. why do you still give it to them? >> i guess peace and civility. >> he wants a relationship with them. >> no, i don't want a relationship with them. >> sitting around and equivalent badmouthing and forgetting to hang the phone up.
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♪ ♪ >> neil: fasten your seat belts and put away the cellphone. it would allow police officers to look at your cellphone if you get into an accident.supporters want to e sure that you really weren't chatting or texting at the time of the wreck. what do you make of that? >> this is going example where you think government does a lot of good on one hand and wanting to protect us from the government. i think they have every right -- they don't have a right to rifle through our phones and look at our records. >> neil: collecting phone records, now i get all upset. >> who knows what is on that phone. >> they have probably cause,
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specifically technology allows it. they need to develop the technology. >> neil: what do you make of that? >> i make of it i've been crashed in repeatedly by girls who are applying makeup or men who are texting. i would like them to be able to examine to see if people texting. texting is outrage while driving disgrace to humanity. >> neil: but not everyone does it or even a cellphone in their car. are you going instantly conclude if you are law officer actors giom doing check the phone. >> the argument, adam talked about probable cause. can you imagine now in jersey we're going to see high-speed chases and they are throwing the gun out the window and the cellphone. what is the heck is going on.
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>> neil: in new jersey it's impossible to have a high-speed chase. >> going 25 and 30, waiting to get out and run. >> neil: what do you say? >> um, i do know this about the law. probable cause is one of easiest things if you are law enforcement official. i do worry about this sort of stuff. listen, it's like if you bump into ben stein, arrest him for crashing into ben stein. >> exactly. if you are the cause of accident, you are the cause of the accident. i find this to a huge personal invasion of privacy. >> neil: you're another one. talking about national security. adam? i'm just telling last week's show.
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dagen, it doesn't jibe being perfectly fine with them taking phone records. >> because they are taking a whole mass of phone calls. >> neil: for no reason. >> and they are running algorithms looking for patterns. >> you know what that is? >> it's dangerous. >> the government's duty to protect all citizens. it's not their duty some cop in intelligence to rifle through my personal files on my phone. >> dagen, it's more important that. it's not a delicate balance. they are going to say, i wasn't doing anything wrong. ben stein stopped short she is going to say ben stein's
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>> neil: 30 minutes in, hope springs eternal. >> eric: first the government, now somebody selling you out, nsa selling you out. one company throwing the red carpet to snoop on you. take it easy on the taxman. they are blowing the irs scandal out of proportion and now evidence suggestion that neither party is being tough enough, "cashin' in" asking the tough questions right now. >> eric: i'm eric boling. our crew, wayne rogers, jonathan hoenig and jehmu greene and you heard about verizon being forts today hand over private phone records to uncle sam. now the company may have

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