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okay. all right. that's it for this week's show. thanks to my panel and all of you for watching. we hope to see you right here next week. with scandals engulfing the white house, irs targeting tea partiers and nsa snooping on americans, eric holder, the justice department going after journalists, the president takes a road trip. world leaders. but charm offensive falling flat and his big speech not so big. how did the media rate his perfect form answer? dick cheney condemn it is actions of the nsa leaker. the liberal media ignores the details and attack cheney. the leaker goes public again with more details and slams the media for doing their jobs. the governor of maine is tired of getting bad press.
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so he shuts the press out. the proof is in. the media has a pro-gay marriage agenda. really? nbc's chris matthews loves hbo's left leading newsroom program. but do you know why? >> honesty and get people substance to take away. you said it well. >> on the panel this week writer and fox news contributor judy miller. >> syndicated columnist cal thomas. jim pinker ton, contributing editor of the american conservative magazine "daily beast." kirsten powers. fox news contributor richard grinnell. john fox, "fox news watch" is on right now. president obama in berlin this week delivering a speech to a smaller crowd than the last time he was there. his trip to germany followed his attendance at the g-8 summit in northern ireland. and his bilateral meeting with
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russian president vladimir putin, well, the meeting, if you can read the body language in the photograph, was just a little bit chilly. the president out of the country avoiding some of the scandals and -- dropping poll numbers at a time when according to this fox news poll americans trust and confidence in government is very low. 63%. so this was the president, jim, who was going to reset -- hit the reset button on the relation was russia. did anybody in the media pick up on that? >> well, john cassidy of the new yorker, for example, pointed out the statement the g-8 issued -- conjunction with putin of russia was very bland and -- when it came to syria "the new york times" talked about the president's base, said he was a bad diplomat on the front page. it was tough week. it was capped by the bad news -- speech in berlin, last week versus -- the five years ago and -- he was -- saw the difference. >> yeah. i think we have that
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represident-elected in a graphic. 2008 candidate obama, yeah, 2008 the candidate obama, filled up that space. hundreds of thousands of people. this time not so many. the white house said this was an invited group. >> i know. not an enthusiastic one. that was the problem. this -- this appearance, these speeches, actually absolutely bombed. i mean, yes, the -- german press was kinder than others but -- nobody liked the british press was savaged. i think the charm is just -- has just worn off and the nsa scandal has so enraged europeans. it is okay. it is all right to be listening in on them. but not americans. i think that's offended a lot of people. >> rick, you spent a long time working for the state department in a spokesman role. does the imaging matter here? do the -- do the pictures we see of the president, do they matter? >> they should matter. but i don't think that they are mattering to the u.s. judy is right the international
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coverage is kind of leaning but not here in the united states. you know in the bush administration, every problem was indicative of a larger leadership problem. we had problems in iraq but it was -- because bush was unpopular. what we see now with the media here in the u.s., is that their excuse making for obama, take jackie's piece in "the new york times" this week, she did report on the fact that the putin meeting didn't go well. but she really gave excuses as to why. she said that, you know, putin is -- is a difficult person. will is no larger issue that obama is the problem or reset button is not working. there is no -- literally bigger issue here that the press is cover. >> is that a fair critique? >> yes. look, i think that -- first of all if the white house thought they could get a couple hundred how people, probably would not have made it in invitation only event to start with. we have to bear that in mind. i also think that there -- if this was bush they would probably would have been leaning more with the downsides of things where when you read the
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coverage it was more sort of almost on an ap reporting style had a just report thing is what happened and what was said and not as much sort of -- commentary that seems to make it into the news coverage when it is somebody they don't like. >> blistering column headline, barack obama bombs in berlin. weak underwhelming address from a floundering president. i guarantee you that you will never see this in the american press. the american media which -- treated obama as -- and helped usher him into office is never going to divorce him at some point, though, i think they are going to transition over to hillary and work on her candidacy without ever acknowledging they were wrong about the president. >> chris matthews msnbc was saying the sun was in the president's eyes and couldn't deliver the speech effectively. >> exactly. >> i guess that he -- he was stumbling and couldn't see the teleprompter and had to read a speech, you know, and -- that makes chris matthews rage in the
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sun. >> what about -- it is often that -- domestic leaders when they are having problems here, they go overseas. is that what happened here? and did it work? >> i think it is. as george will pointed out, read the substance, forget the size, substance, what the president said in berlin, he still is disputing whether or not north korea has nuclear program. wants to negotiate with the russians and putin over arms control and everybody else is building more nuclear arms and most for issue to face is global warming. you are waiting for the president to say where does syria and intervention there fit into the context? is that less for than the polar bears? >> it seems like by talking about nuclear weapon, destroying nuclear weapons and so forth, the president was trying to change the topic. did the media let him? >> he did succeed in changing the subject but it comes down to his performance and whether or not he is credible. lot of people are less, less willing to give him the benefit
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of the doubt. >> the irs scandal has not gotten a lot of coverage. since the nsa thing broke, what happened to the coverage on the irs issue? >> it is -- it is already done. i mean, it was -- viewed as really a bureaucratic messup and, again, does not touch the white house, even though we know that the -- white house chief of staff and the white house deputy chief of staff both were involved in trying to figure out how to cover this up. we have a disinterested press. you know, jim brought up john cassidy from "the new yorker" and i think that john said something interesting which is key to the excuse thinking. he said our problems may be beyond anybody and i think that what we are seeing now is that -- narrative from the media to say these are bigger problems and obama is trying and let's give him credit and not being held accountable. >> rush limbaugh has a here the i don't this.
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obama is above everything and out campaigning constantly and never connected with any of the scandals or other things that are going wrong in washington. they are all out covering his non-stop campaign. >> next the nsa leaker hits the media. >> hero or traitor? man who leaks details of the nsa snooning operation made more news this week attack the media for their coverage of him. when it comes to press relations, what do these two politicians are have in common? or faster relief, try dulcolax laxative tablets. dulcolax provides gentle relief overnight unlike miralax and metamucil that can take up to 3 days. for predictable relief try dulcolax.
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of -- somebody with access to information doing an enormous damage to the security interests of the united states. >> former vice president dick cheney there on fox news sunday. calling nsa leaker edward snowden a traitor for his actions. snowden went public again this week reacting to cheney's comments and criticizing the media coverage. part of what he said, unfortunately, the mainstream media now seems far more interested in what i said when i was 17 or what my girlfriend looks like rather than, say, the largest program of suspicionless surveillance in human history. judy, what do you think of his remarks? >> well, edward snowden, welcome to celebrity fraud. he has become a genuine folk hero to a lot of people under 30. if you look at the 17-point drop in the president's popularity among that group, edward snowden
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is responsible for that. i'm sorry but he is not going to like a lot what was written about him. >> he thought there would be universal adulation in the media? >> i think snowden, narcissist, emerging narrative following up. he is on his way of being philip agey, notorious cia agent who got americans killed and ended up living out his life in cuba where he died under castro. >> chris in this -- for you, former vice president's comments got this reaction from snowden. he said, being called a traitor by dick cheney is the highest honor you can give an american. >> i just -- i think his complaint is completely valid. is that people are focusing on things that -- he was a high school dropout or his girlfriend or these things that have nothing to do with the issue in an attempt to smear him. even this narcissistic thing, it is like -- i guess you should have gone into tv or something. you know what i mean?
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it is not -- seriously. like we have -- work in the most narcissistic industry in history sitting around pointing fingers at that guy who basically gave up everything, you know, and had to plea the doflee the country thought it was so for to expose the information which has not caused any damage to the united states. that's the other thing we keep hearing about all this alleged damage that has been done. lot of good has already been done. >> what about the -- >> you know -- >> go ahead. >> sorry. i was just going to say that -- he signed up to spy, though. that's the difference are. snowden signed up to spy. >> what do you mean by signed up to spy? >> he signed up to work for the nsa and to do a job that he knew exactly what he was going to do. nothing changed. what changed is his comfort level with spying. >> that's not what happened. rick, i'm sorry, that's not what happen. just because you are working in the nsa does not mean you have signed up to -- what the administration was doing in terms of surveillance. mine, he was than -- he's a
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whistle blower. >> none of that surveillance changed. no, he is not a blower of a whistle but blower of integrity. he decided he no longer was comfortable with spying so he went out. >> i think media has -- on the one hand but on the other hand attitude about this. on the one hand they are happy to have the information because they like to find out things that are secret. on the other hand, they found that agents of the federal government have been -- tapping phones and looking at e-mails and this sort of thing and revealing seeks are. so -- i think they have a dual responsibili responsibility. >> he added this. i don't remember martin luther king jr. or rosa parks running off and hiding in china. >> in snowden -- snowden challenges that because -- portrait of him somebody who is giving secrets to the chinese ask -- money from the country to
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do that. the larger context, about the insider threat program run by the obama administration. by -- that is the further scaring of the people that some really -- something only us? happening beyond snowden. >> mlk and rosa parks did not -- the u.s. government chasing them, giving secrets. that's ridiculous. >> wiretapping dr. king sh. >> no. the government was harassing them. he did something against the u.s. government and had to flee. that's a completely different situation. >> he did sign a contract and violated that contract because of his -- >> that's what people do. that's what he -- >> something nobody else has. he has position and has a platform. a.g. didn't have that. >> three months into the job, leaking stuff, he went there for that. >> he had been working there for eight years. >> next, a lesson in avoiding the press.
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>> government lepage takes page from the obama playbook in dealing with bad press. and -- cbs news anchor scott pelley makes the news watch list again. what did he do now? find out next. and tea parties. i'll have more awkward conversations than i'm equipped for, because i'm raising two girls on my own. i'll worry about the economy more than a few times before they're grown. but it's for them, so i've found a way. who matters most to you says the most about you. at massmutual we're owned by our policyowners, and they matter most to us. ready to plan for your future? we'll help you get there. ♪ ♪
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administration not so flattering and so he's just decided that he will stop talking to them. >> it is a policy he will come to reconsider and i would suspect withdraw what he thinks about it because -- the papers come out every day. >> yeah. i mean, it is incredible. very, very bad judgment. because it is one of those things first of all, it -- looks bad. i think if you are the average voter you think that you can't punish up ins for -- you know, running things you don't like then will have to waive on it. >> more bad news for the media
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biz. if you believe the polls. 23% of americans have faith in the fourth state. newspapers have been trending downward. tv news bounced up slightly from the all-time low of 21% a year guy. what about that? if the media don't have the trust of the people they are serving, what's that say? >> i think things are changing, you know. the -- game over. so to speak. you look at social media, people are going around traditional newspapers. they are dying. you can get mainstream reporter to file a newspaper any longer. you can get better information and people are looking for that better information. i think newspapers are dying. >> i sense that judy this agrees from the body language i'm getting here on the set, but we have a another poll to we need to talk about. this is from pew research
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center, media of gay marriage have been more supportive. 40% were supportive and just 9% not supportive. not fair and balanced coverage, cal? >> i think the "new york times" has subsidiary gay publication the advocate. even the sports section and entertainment section, editorial page, op-ed pro gay marriage. it's part of a of a campaign. the other part. growing secularization of america and all of that kidnapped i do think the media has done a very bad job of giving something of the other opinion whether you agree with it or not. >> jon: do the statistics surprise you? >> no, but most news rooms are located in urban environments where people tend to be pro gay marriage. i think the news rooms reflected those juice.
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>> most reporters are libertarians and you combine them and you get the editorial point of view. >> jon: then cbs news anchor scott pelley. he took shots at fox news and made this comment about cable news. not a lot of people watch cable news. they just don't. if you look at the nielsen numbers the cable channels have a few hundred thousand viewers at any moment. cbs news has 7 million viewers. he kind of budged his numbers. cbs news has 6 million and comparing to big events, cbs had over 5 million voters for the g.o.p. debate they produced in 2011. about a month later fox news had a larger audience. on election night, scott, take note.
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with hollywood drama thrown in. chris matthews seem to be a huge fan of the program. >> let me ask you about, with newsroom, i talked to you before the show, my son has a part of the show. you are the man on the show. you play the guy, keith olbermann or somebody else in the business. what is it going to be like starting sunday. it's the most organic show and comes out of itself and it grows like a human being and makes so fascinating to people. >> my panel is wincing. >> we heard his son is in the cast and how the character is like chris himself. he adds the program is unpredictable and fascinating but what he didn't tell us he is a paid consultant for the newsroom that lists matthews with a stable of liberal media types that helps focus the point of view on that drama
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show. something to keep in mind. that is wrap for this week. thanks to our panel. i'm jon scott. thanks for watching. keep it right here on the fox news channel. >> gregg: knocks fuse alert out of dayton, a deadly crash a plane carrying a wing walk performer suddenly crashes killing not only the performer but the pilot, as well. we'll show you the videotape and you will see if you look very carefully in the distance a human figure on the lower left wing of the bi-plane. you see the two wings of the plane and it will be on the right-hand side which is the plane's left wing. look underneath what appears to be an individual dangling from her feet. then you'll see the plane turn upside-down.
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