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tonight on huckabee. rick san dhtitorium has a new job in the private sector. does that moan he is done with politics? >> you will be able to keep your doctor period. and you will be able to cope your health care plan period. doctors are coping their patients and dropping the his honor and eliminating the red tape of obama care can make it better. >> i will post my prices and give my patients what i promise to give them for that price. >> she's backed up elvis and frank and a rethia. darlene love takes center stage.
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♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee. (applause) >> thank you. thank you very much. great audience here in new york and welcome to huckabee from the fox news studios right here in new york city. look, i want to make something clear. i don't hate liberals and i don't hate anybody. i like some liberals and enjoy talking to those that are rational and reasonable. but a lot of liberals don't make sense to me. i am trying to understand them but i just don't. just this week liberals in the house of representative through a hissy fit that prevents abortions after the fifth month because science make its clear
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that baby feels pain. it must be painful for weres and legs to be ripped from the body. but the party that screams we ought to follow the science in abortion, science doesn't matter. and 80 percent of the americans oppose late- term abortions including 63 percent of the women. liberals are against pain for animals and whales and dolphins and walk around naked to protest the wearing of fur. and a posed to torteur for the terrorist and death.with murder. and the decision to execute the criminal system the result of years of legal maneuvering and guilt determined by the jury. they demand carrying out the death.for a child. they insist that it is called women's health. it can't be too healthy for a baby and if it is a little girl baby, that would be bad for
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this little woman's health. liberals don't want the government in the bed rooms, and let me assure you, i don't want to get in a liberal's bed room, but if something happens in the bed room they didn't plan, they want the government to come in and clean up the mess and make the rest of us pay for it. liberals say a six year old little girl is grownup to buy the morning after pill. when she is 26 years old she is child enough to have the parents buy health insurance. and if a woman ending a babies life. and great idea to pass obama care and get the entire federal government in between women and children and doctor. >> liberals believe that a 14-year-old ought to get birth control pills but not a soda or access to a salt shaker.
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liberals in planned parent hood in indiana said a 13-year-old girl raped by a 17-year-old neighbor and got pregnant and refused an abortion wouldn't have been raped if there was comprehensive sex education. if a conservative was stupid to blame a 95 pound child to fend off a rapist because she didn't have enough sex education classes, he would be hooted out of town for being a idiot. i try to be nice to people i don't agree with. i figure that great psychologist ron white has it diagnosed accurately. >> you can't fix stupid. (applause) and granted, some locals really believe their shey are defending it. but not many. on a lot of issues, they just
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don't make sense. (applause) for my first guest spent over a dozen years in washington as a senator from pennsylvania and campaigned as a presidential candidate in 2012 and rick sanitorium has a new job with a christian film country. we are happy to have rick here. rick, does that mean you will not run again? >> no, it doesn't mean that at all. i will be engaged in something just like you are, mike. you realize that politics is a very important avenue. i am involved in it as you are. i know you travel around the country and give speeches and vuyour radio she and tv she and engaged and involved on the front lines of the fight and i have an organization of patriot voices and i do the speaking circuit and campaign for candidates and we'll continue to do all that. but you realize that the culture is very, very important.
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and it was one of the great greek philosopher. give me the story tellers and i will control a country in a generation and you know well that the store tore tellers of this country is not sharing the values that you and i support. they share the values that you are aptly haranguing for the first few minutes of the she and pointed out the illegitimacy of them. we need people out there that are pervayors of good positive content and decided to take a step in that direction. >> it is not that this position takes you off of the stage politically and does not eliminate that you look at 2016? >> well, frankly anymore than the same would be for you, mike. being out there in the interim between campaigns and trying to add to the value of our country, and both from the standpoint of putting forth good ideas and
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lifting up people and also you know, creating in your case, you do it by creating great positive content on television and radio and we are looking at it from the stand point of creating positive content on film. and that is an area that conservatives are woefully negligent. going out there and producing the video content, dramatic content that is really important in shaping the hearts and minds of americans. >> you spent 12 years in the senate and the senate is debating a significant immigration bill. i am sure you looked at it and would you vote for it if you were in the senate today? >> no, i would not. i sort of take the common sense approach that people come to the country, as my father did as an immigrant and my grandfather did as an immigrant to the country and should not be treated the same as people who came here and
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broke the law. really what this bill does is really put them on an equal footing. that is not right. >> we need to focus on what makes america work. we are the party that stands by the rule of law and the party that needs a strong economy and have laws in place to make sure our economy is growing and creating opportunities and be the party that talks about strong families and communities and reach out to all ethnic groups and embrace what the great vision of our country is and playoff what the democrats are doing and be little less bad than they are. i think that is a mistake and we need to stay true to our values and that made the country great as it is today. >> you made the point that the republican's big problems is that they didn't vote for immigration package and
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connecting with hispanic voters. what do the republicans need to do differently. and those that articulate. and where is it that we are missing it? >> yeah, mike, you have been a great leader on this. i have to admit, and i did an a d on usa today. how we need to go out and talk to voters that frankly don't think we care much about them. they don't think we care much about them in part that we don't talk about the problems they have. our party tends to focus on the super achieve ors and focus on the entrepreneurs and listen to republicans talk. focus on these people and how they impact the economy. it is important. these are very important people in our economy and people in our country, but there is a lot of people who work for those folks that make this country a great country, too. not only because of the work they do in the company, but the
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work they do in their families and communities and churches. we don't tend to value that work and tend to talk about the ways in which we can help them improve, not just the quality of their job but the quality of their community and families, we need to have not just rhetoric that connects with how americans feel in their lives, but how they understand the culture and communities and churches and all fracturing. things are changing. our country and unless we are out there talking to the average guy and american and the concerns he has and have ideas that meet them where they are, we'll be a party that is getting narrower and narroroer. and we'll ask him to weigh in when we return. stay with us, we'll be right back. >> i would like to hear from you.
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let this thing clear out and maybe they will change their tune and not put you through the wringer because of high profile political character. it turns out in talking to them, they haven't changed their tune at all. here the irs is under scrutiny for what they are doing and targeting the conservative and tea party group and they haven't changed a bit. they are sending out letters asking people what they are doing and i talked to her, i said we need to file those documents and we have's year track record of doing grate public person and working with people with desabilities and defeating the, n treaty of robbing parents of discretion with disabled children. we are willing to stand up to the scrutiny. it is uncoinsiable and they are doing it and continue to
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arrogantly pursue the hosstillitty in light of the scandal. >> the best thing would be end-all of the tax exempt status for everybody and make media matters and all of the left wing groups operate in the free marketplace and put that part of the irs out of business and since there will not be anything for them to do, they will be dismissed. would that be a solution? >> well, you know, there is all sorts of solutions. one of the things i looked at in the last few scandals and the one that is most shock suggest what is going on in the irs. the more i look at the irs tis just hopeless. it is hopeless not because of the organization or bad people there, it is hopeless, because we have begin enormous power to the government over every single person in america. you are guilty until proven innocent.
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they have more power than any other agency because there is a preassumes of guilt. you have obama care to regulate people's lives. it is just inherently corrupt and cannot function in a way that is in the side of freedom loving people. i think we need to look at what someone suggested. repeal and get rid of the income tax. that is the source of the problem. (applause) and do something else in its place. >> i couldn't agree more. you voted for the patriot act when it was first up. are there things that have gone beyond what you voted for in terms of the scope of what the government is now looking at on behalf of innocent citizens? >> i think what has happen is that technology dramatically improved and now we have the ability to look at.
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big data and so this huge amount of data which was before all of this data and so much you couldn't possibly do it. that has people concerned and has them concerned because if they drill down and find little data, me and determine that i am doing something that i shouldn't be doing. i think we need to take a step back. big data is a good thing. it is showing patterns and helping police in a lot of ways. but you have to make sure it doesn't entd up to be a sophisticated way to spy on individuals and protecting that identity is important going forward. >> if i lose my iphone i will call the government and ask them where it is, because they will know. >> thank you. great to have you here. >> no obama care and no insurance exchanges and no
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>> the polls she that obama care increasingly unpopular with americans and the president tries to convince americans that his health care overhall is right for them. under the plan starting october of this year, people will have to compare complicated plans and choose the one that is right for them. what if you don't have to pick any insurance at all? what if you just paid your doctor directly for the services he or she provides. does that sound too expensive.
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my next guest said bypassing insurance and red tape keeps the bureaucrats out makes health care more affordable. joining me is three doctors. dr. doug and dr. marskoin. good to have you here and thanks for joining us. and let me start with you. doctor, you recently tock what some might consider a radical step. you stopped all medical insurance in your practice and now just take patients and tell them what the prices are and it is open and transparent. what motivated you to do that? >> well, governor, thank you. what is going on now, medicine is devolving in terms of the financing of it. i did this based on both moral and economic grounds. economically what is going to happen with obama care with the
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orgs hmo's of the '80s and '90s that we hated and it is worse. what they will do is give hospitals accountable care organizations and said take care of medicare patients and if you spend less keep more money and if you spend more, hospitals and doctors have to pay to take care of those people. and that's just financially untenable for doctors or primary care because the margins are so low. on moral grods if you incent vise an organization to take less care of someone that patient will get less care. we posted our offices on line and we don't take medicare or medicaid or private insurance. we post the prices and cut the prices in half and we have people come in and they get the service that they ask for and
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pay on the way out just like you would at the deli or mechanic or grocery store and the transaction is complete. it is a win- win for everyone. >> i love. that turkey sandwich and the a pen tectome. did you lose patients when you did this? that is a radical departure from the way most people practice medicine. >> it is radical. it is ironic that you pay for a service and you get it and you leave. it is scary and considered radical. but we had several of the medicare patients decide to go elsewhere because medicare will not allow them to get reimbursed for the service. that is unfortunate. and some of the patients with hmo's with strict rules they were not able to referrals from me because i am not contributing with them. we are seeing people with no insurance and high detuktibles
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are thrilled. i am seeing people who couldn't afford it before. >> you are in kansas and have a similar approach. people pay an annual fee and then they access into a network like the concierge medicine and i predicted it was the coming thing. tell us when a person pays the foe, i guess it is monthly or annual. what does that access them to? >> basically, we realize when the doctor and i started the clinbeing, we ep realize that the health care system was brokeen and we had to throw as much value as possible at that membership and they got unlimited-access to office visit asks home visit asks work visits and technology visits that are cell phone calls and texting and e-mail and skype skype and
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twitter and wholesale medication and lab work at 95 percent discount. >> wow, 95 percent off? >> that is a big discount and huge. >> right, it is something for example like cholesteral test may be charged 60 or 90. we charge three because that is what it cost us. >> (applause) >> we do all of our procedures that are done for free as well and if you need an ekg, you don't have to worry if i make $25 doing it. i will do it if it needs to be done and it costs me 40ent ises and electrode pads and we do stitches for free. we did that for a little by, strep throat testing and urinalysis. and anything in the office is included to make that membership valuable and to be honest, what is part of the system that was
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broken was insurance. and we decided to get out of it but we realize that insurance is necessary and we have done in kansas and hopefuly on a grander scale. our motois affordable with the masses by design. we work with local insurance write custom high dedetect i believe that have saved one family a thousand dollars a month with the membership of our clinic and one small company in wichita stood to get back a quarter million in the first years utilizing the plan. one of the local companiesine has seen what we can save them and they will count our membership toward the deductible and now your money is working twice as hard for you. it is amazing what you can do if you utilize the free market and people say we are radical. mechanics work for cash. and pharmacist and veternarians
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and electrician and plumbars and no reason followingses can't do it the same. >> we'll have our doctor about her changes in the practice. fascinating stuff and may be the alternative you are looking for, for obama care. and how important is it to keep your medical records between you and your doctor. your information will go in a government- run system. and we know how secure that is right now. ♪
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enforced. i am harris faulkner, and now back to huckabee. n(applause) >> we are back with our doctors. i will bring in our doctor that has been here before. we love having them. you have done them a number of years not taking insurance. when obama care requires people to have insurance, they work
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with you and the doctor numba maker or champy, will they have to have double coverage in a situation like that and satisfy the government, too? >> that's an excellent question, governor and the answer is no. doctors such as doctor numba maker and champy, and i category them and their patients for the wonderful opportunity that they have assumed. no, we have a section in obama care 1301, but it is a law patients can apply what they pay for us to the premium. and so that will be deducted. we have to wait for the regulations and you know that obama care is behind the eight ball here. we are waiting for that regulation. it will be there and it is in the law, yes, sir it is. ndr. zelingly let me ask you. the privacy issue why would you
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keep our records secret and obama care wouldn't? >> because we don't bill insurance. we don't send in the horrific codes that are about billing codes and not clinically going on with the patient. they are a coding system and they violate privacy. let me give you an example. a patient came to the office and had a question of how to prevent hipper tension and something that runs in the family i can discuss it with them at will. i am able to follow-up with them in the month to see if they understood what i said. as opposed to a doctor that works in the system and had to bill a code to get paid. and that would be hipper tension and that patient would be plagued with that diagnosis for the rest of their life. i warn patients and americans and irs, and nsa horrific what they are doing to violate our privles. but the health and human service
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department issine worse. they have access to every record in this country, every medical record, governor and every time we contribute to that, by actually, they have a new system. it is a computerized system where doctors put in boxes, they checkoff boxes, yes, i do this and that, they get a bonus, they violate their patient's privacy to get a bonus. on moral grounds, i cannot do that and i will not do that my patient's records never love my office. >> i have to be quick here with dr. champion and dr. nunna maker. doctor, is your patients provided so they don't have to give up social security number or details about the health care and medical conditions? >> they are now. originally i had tried to cooperate with the electronic
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medical record program that was part of the stim tim pacge and it was a nightmare and i was working for the computer and not the patient. when i did this. i scraped that and everything is back to paper charts and i no longer ask for social security number. i don't want it. if they are going to get my patient's records they have to break in my office to do it at this point. >> doctor nunnamaker, you are seeing patients for longer periods of time. and i am not asking you to reveal personal income. you are making house calls. i haven't heard of that since watching marcus welbow on tv. are you making as much money as you would have as you would be in the government system. >> my lifestyle and income is better. i provide better patient care. without the costs and overhead. we looked at it 22 percent of
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the physician's time is mostly insurance and overhead. take that out times all of the physicians in the country, you have 165,000 new doctors to the work force. we concern ourselves marcus welbow with an iphone and we enjoy the house calls. i couldn't agree more with dr. zelinger that your privacy is very much not secure. hippa is a huge bearer that the health insurance and accountability act has no use. when it was written spice girls were in the top of the charts. it needs to be overhauled. >> i want to thank all of you. it is a fascinating and informative conversation to find out it is not all one size fits all. let obama care do it. thank you very, very much for
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being with us today. (applause) >> you have begin us a lot to think about. i hope they are listening in washington. and i hope they understand it is better than the obama care. let's hope that somebody will pay attention. i certainly did. >> you know the stars get all of the fame and they owe a lot to the harmony of the singers that back them up. you heard her voice in some of the biggest pop hits of hey, look! a shooting star! make a wish! i wish we could lie here forever. i wish this test drive was over, so we could head back to the dealership. [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. test drive! [ male announcer ] but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then dre is back. and it's never been easier to get a jetta. that's the power of german engineering. get $0 down, $0 due at signing, $0 deposit, and $0 first month's payment
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>> each woke day hear my daily commentary the huckabee report. details at mikehuckabee.com. she made a name for herself backing up legendary singers like elvis presley and frankingsinat raand tina turner and even recorded hits of her own. she went from singing in the studios with the stars to cleaning homes to survive. >> one particular christmas, i was cleaning a ladies bathroom. ♪ ♪ (singing) and christmas baby, please come home, my christmas record came on the radio while i was cleaning the bathroom. ♪ ♪ they are singing deck the
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halls. >> and i just looked up and said all right darlene this is not where you are supposed to be. you are supposed to be singing, there is a whole world out there that wants to hear you sing. ♪ pretty lights on the tree. >> she's now a member of the rock and roll hall of fame and her story and other back up singers are told in 20 feet from stardom. please welcome darlene love. (applause) (laughter) >> hi, darlene. you look terrific. >> thank you. >> first of all, i love this documentary. it gives me so much information and also what a wonderful back story and one of them that i just was touched by. you had this remarkable career and then the very people who helped you made it almost destroyed it and you found
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yourself cleaning other people's houses for a while. what happened? >> yeah, when i kind of started after phil specter. i was recording the records under the name of the crystals and i was not a member of the crystals and phil is a rebel for the crystals and i was never a member of that group, and i then i signed with him and the next record that was supposed to come out was supposed to be a darlene love record. he shot it. and i will tooling down the street one day and the radio is on, and here's the next big record by the crystals and i went hum, that is interesting. i don't remember getting the call for the day. it was the song. and the next one, long story short. i could be here all day. i went in to do the do run, run. we did the background first and vocals and muc and then the lead vocal went on. i am not doing this one, phil.
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you said before they were my records and they were not my records and i started to sing do run and run and put my voice on it. and i said this is ridiculous and i didn't finish the do run, run. but my voice was on it and he brought in l.a. brocks and she put her voice on the record i had recorded and it came out under her name the crystals and when i tried to get work as darlene love, the producers would say, if you are a crystal, we could get you more work and a lot of the background sessions had dried up. there were not more background sessions. >> you were laying the big tracks for the songs and artist and you are not getting the credit as is the case for so many of the people who made the muc we love. >> right, and then i had a great career as a background singer and i sang for everybody. the wonderful thing, how did you feel doing back up behind those
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people. we felt great. they were just excited about us being on their sessions as we were to sing with them. it was a thrill that they could get the blossoms for the background. >> you sang for everybody. who lit your own fuse? >> sam cook? >> sam cook. (laughter) yes. he was so great. we had a gospel connection because he started off in the gospel world. >> as did you. nand the other one because of who he was, was elvis presley. he loved the gospel muc, too. it was a joy working with them because it was free and everybody had a good time and no body trying to be a star. everybody just trying to sing. i can out sing you on this gospel song and it was one of those things and fantastic, but as far as the work was concerned, i couldn't get any. i had lost my father, i was getting over a divorce and had three children and i said i have
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to find something to do, i am not the type of person to sit a runned and i guess this work will come and let's have a pity party. i said i will go clean houses. >> i am glad you decided to sing rather than clean houses. i am not sure how you did on cleaning houses. >> fantastic. >> and you are making a an amazing job. we'll make you sing with the little rockers. >> yes. >> of course. darlene love. >> and in addition to the documentary, her autobiing on gra ph y is called my name is love. >> 20 feet from stardom and we'll join
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♪ ♪ [ applause ] >> mike: we're back with darlene love. darlene you brought some others with you today. >> my wonderful singers. we have olu head on the end. elaine caswell in the center. [ applause ] >> and milton band. >> mike: glad to have you here. we're going to be backed up by the little rockers. correspondent lauren green on keyboards. [ applause ] >> mike: audio tech steve wilson is on guitar and bob higgins is on guitar. all right darlene. >> who is on bass. >> mike: only guy that would do it today. he really wanted to play with darlene love. here i am. what are we doing. >> we're going to do an old
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rhythm and blues song called "lean on me." >> mike: great song. ♪ ♪ ♪ sometimes in our life ♪ we all have pain ♪ we all have sorrow ♪ we know that there is always tomorrow ♪ ♪ lean on me ♪. ♪ ♪ 6 ♪ and i'll be your friend ♪ ♪ i'll help you carry on
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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ somebody ho to lean on ♪ lean just right ♪ if i have to heal ♪ you need to follow ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ you lean on your brother when you need a hand ♪ ♪ we need someone to lean on ♪ ♪ i just might have a problem that you don't understand ♪ ♪ we all need somebody to
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lean on ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ there is load you have to bear ♪ ♪ and you can carry on ♪ right up the road and not alone if you just hold on me ♪ ♪ lean on me ♪ when you are not strong ♪ i'll be your friend ♪ i'll help you carry on ♪ oh, it won't be long
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♪ i'm going to need somebody to lean on ♪ ♪ ♪ lean on me! ♪ oohh ♪ [ applause ] >> mike: thank you darlene love. don't forget the book. this thursday i'm going to be hosting out at nixon library in california. i hope you support our troops at troop-a-thon. i hope to see you online or in person. this is mike huckabee from the fox news studios. good night and god bless. [ applause ] ♪ lean on me
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♪ i'll be your friend i'm phyllis and i have diabetic nerve pain. when i first felt the diabetic nerve pain, of course i had no idea what it was. i felt like my feet were going to sleep. it progressed from there to burning like i was walking on hot coals... to like 1,000 bees that were just stinging my feet. i have a great relationship with my doctor... he found lyrica for me. [ female announcer ] it's known that diabetes damages nerves. lyrica is fda approved to treat diabetic nerve pain. lyrica is not for everyone. it may cause serious allergic reactio or suicidal thoughts or actions. tell your doctor t away if you have these, new or worsening depron, or unusual chaes in mood or behavior. or swelling, trouble breathing, rash, hives, blisters, changes in eyesight including blurry vision, muscle pain with fever, tired feeling,
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or skin sores from diabetes. common side effes are dizziness, sleess, weight gain and swelling of hands, legs and feet. don't drink alcohol while taki lyrica. don't drive or use machinery until you know how lyrica affects you. those who have had a drug or alcohol problem may be more likely to misuse lyrica. having less pain -- it's a wonderful feeling. [ female announcer ] ask your doctor about lyrica today. it's specific treatment for diabetic nerve pain. to hear more of phyllis's story, visit lyrica.com.
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