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>> jamie: follow us on twitter. have a great day everybody, take care. >> one individual who is not acting in my opinion with noble intent, what snowden has revealed has caused irreversible and significant damage to our country and to our allies. >> national security agency keith alacks ander of betraying the trust of the united states. as the office of director of national inintelligence says more leaks are anticipated. edward snowden is believed to have landed in moscow a short time ago. where he might go is up for debate. let's go to steve for the latest. >> reporter: apparently on move but we haven't caught
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a ghrunlts of him yet. the justice department confirmed that he leave hong kong to a third country in spy of trying to have him extradited. reporters gathered at moscow airport possibly in transit to cuba and then venezuela. hong kong said it didn't fully require with their requirements for extradition. strong reaction here. >> we have seen that bad guys overseas, terrorists who are committing and plotting attacks on the united states and our allies have changed the way we operate. we have seen that. to say that is that is not harmful to the national security of the united states or our safe is just dead wrong. >> reporter: and even though many are worried about the scope of the nsa
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surveillance operation that gathers information from the phone companies and from the internet, others defend the program as essential to our national security and pointed out the snowden leak has caused damage as you heard mike rogers already say. as for the russians allowing snowden to land there in moscow, one prominent u.s. senator it could damage u.s. russian relations going forward. >> allies are supposed to treat each other in decent ways and putin seems eager to put a finger in the eye of the united states whether it is syria, iran, now, of course, with snowden. that is not how allies should treat one another and it will have serious consequences for the united states russia relationship. >> reporter: and meantime, they are trying to get their hand snowden. charges have been filed on espionage against snowden.
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>> shannon:. thank you very much. >> it could be the worst scenario as wikileaks is one step closer to release more information that snowden claimed he had. yesterday, an expert explained his theory that the u.s. government had been hoping to keep snowden's leaks isolated to the chinese. more insight and breaking news on snowden and apparent plan. author gordon chang is with us. we don't know hundred percent for sure but if snowden landed in russia would he have gone out there with coordination that he would be safe in the interim? >> i'm sure they worked this out with russia beforehand. they let this guy on the plane without a visa. aeflot would not normally do that. i'm sure what we're seeing
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is moscow doing its best to thed states is embarrassed by snowden. >> shannon: we have to also take into consideration whether or not he may be sharing intelligence with them as he allegedly has been doing with the chinese. we've got a very tense relationship with russia right now. would they milk him for information with what we are doing with computer systems and if he says he american and patriotic guy, why would he cooperate? >> russians have been talking for two weeks now about wanting to give asylum to snowden, first it was putin and then foreign minister. they would love to do this. i'm sure they will get something for this. snowden was on the run. he realized he had to leave hong kong quickly. russians made although these accommodations for him. we are seeing snowden going into hotel at the airport.
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diplomats have been talking to him and ecuador and wikileaks and russia are working as thick as thieves. >> shannon: how does it impact our relationship with hong kong. we had a statement from their government that the documents that we had put together, justice department there was something that was lacking. doj says it was cooperating and provided information as per the original agreement we have with hong kong. they had additional questions. we were in process the justice department in replying and responding to that when snowden took off. hong kong says they are going to continue to discuss what happened but it doesn't sound like anything positive between the two sides? >> clearly not. in the past we had a close working relationship on extradition of suspects back to the u.s. hong kong always coughed up people.
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this time i think, hong kong is don't do anything on important matters without first consulting with the chinese. clearing they were talking with w beijing with this. i think we really have a china problem. >> shannon: there is a speculation that snowden may continue where he is on possibly to cuba and then on to venezuela. this is all speculation based on trickle of information. those nations don't sound like the place that have the best record of supporting free press. does he hurt himself in his case by traveling and cooperating with nations like those? >> i think he started this in hong kong. honk consulting semi autonomous. clearly the chinese control hong kong right now. snowden despite his denial last monday in the guardian online, he actually did talk to chinese officials
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despite his dem. these chinese officials directed snowden to give that infamous interview with hong kong china post where he turned over documents with detailed including i.p. addresses, he has damaged his credibility and he is going to further damage it by going to to moscow or venezuela or ecuador. this is really getting to be a bad story. >> shannon: and there was a mention also in the statement from the hong kong government explaining the back and forth and how snowden slipped away. the final part their statement, they have formally written to the u.s. government requesting clarification, hack of computer systems by the u.s. government and its agencies. it sounds like a little slap out of way out the door because of that statement? >> extradition is 90% political even in the best
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of times. hong kong, they could have kept him if they wanted to. that is real indication how china feels about you us. >> shannon: gordon, two days in a row, incite on this story. turning down domestically, immigration measure they hope to pass a bill before the july the 4th recess. tomorrow there will be a procedural vote on a major sticking point a border security agreement that was crafted by two republican senators. can the gang of eight possibly survive the house where many g.o.p. members say it's going to be dead on arrival. joining us former arizona santa barbara and fox news contributor john carl. what do you make of the state of play we have right now. we have this voluminous amendment. there will be a vote on monday. it's 200 pages. can get get through it? >> it's unfortunate in the way that the snowden is
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eclipsing will what will be incredibly important week in the united states senate. i predicted by friday they will sent an i am congregation reform bill to the house of representatives. this amendment is so long, its rewrite of much of the bill itself. there is actually only five major pieces that are important. it is a problem that members will not have a chance to read it all. five key things go that before one of these provisional individuals people that are here illegally here today but this though can begin their process of becoming a citizen which would take 13 years, five things have to happen. first of all the strategy for controlling the border has to be in place certified by the secretary of homeland security. they have to hire 20,000 more border patrol agents doubling that number. they have to put in place $3 billion of new
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technology on the border. here are two of the most important things. they e-verify system that requires employers to check a database when it hires an individual has to be up and running. that is a sure fire way to ensure whether somebody is legal or not. exit entry system has to be in place at land and seaports. 40% of the people that are here illegally came here legally on visas and then overstayed. this system would within oh those people out -- winnow those people out at least those that come on aircraft or ships. >> shannon: there has been a lot of debate about this. critics say all that needs to be submitted to the pathway to amnesty or some kind of legal recognition starts is that a plan for border security, not the actual securing of border. what do you make of that? >> that was the criticism of the gang of eight
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proposal. that is fair statement of it. what this other amendment with the approval of the gang of eight, is to tighten this up. these are triggers. these have to be in place before this process for the path to citizenship can begin. now, in one sense it's still measuring inputs rather than outputs. we're going to add border patrol, add the e-verify system. we don't know how well that will work. opponents will continue to say we want output measured, how successful is this in actually securing the border. that is the debate that exists right now. i would say with these various inputs in place, it's going to be pretty hard for an illegal immigrant to either come to the country or be able to stay here if they come here on visa. >> shannon: what do you make of the cbo that looks at the impact of a piece of legislation saying that not
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only illegal immigration but only be reduced by 25% under this measure. there is so much controversy attached to it. is that the only benefit in reduction in illegal immigration, why move forward? >> exactly. that is one of the things that this hoven-corker amendment that seeks to solve. about 40% of the people came here on visa on a student visa and they stayed even though they weren't supposed to. original bill didn't really create a trigger for solving that problem. the amendment does. it says the entry-exit system has to be up and running. it won't do with anything with the people here illegally today. but it will much more difficult to overstay a visa and remain in the united states with this system in place. >> shannon: your home state, arizona has a lot at stake in this debate. thanks very much for coming
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in jon kyl. >> opening statements in the murder trial of george zimmerman the neighborhood watchman accused of killing trayvon martin. they barred expert testimony of the 911 call. former police officer and judge alex ferrar and expert of all things joining us live. good to see you. good to see you. >> shannon: i want to ask you about this ruling because it's not that the audiotape of the 911 call there are voices, there is scuffle sounds like in the background. it's not that the audiotape will be kept out but the expert testimony about the audiotape will be kept out. experts saying they could tell what they were saying. how big of a deal is that? >> to the lawyers, they probably anticipated this. it deals the prosecution a bit of a blow because they have a tough case to begin
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with. this was critical evidence if and only if the experts could identify the voice. i said about a year if they could identify the voice the case is over. it tells you who the aggressor is. they can't identify the voice. it's bad quality recording. person is outside. it's background on a 911 call. the operator and caller are stepping over the voice. at the end of the day, f.b.i. analyzed it, all we have is small fragments, not enough and screaming voice you can't compare to a normal voice. nonetheless, each side hired experts, the judge had to make a call whether it was reliable enough to let it go to the jury. it clearly was not. methodology they used to try to identify, most experts would say it's ridiculous. judge made the right call. it's devastating not to have that because it would be decisive in the case but
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it's not coming in. >> shannon: and as with all trials there are so many motions before the jury is there about what can and can't be done. judge has ruled that the prosecutors can say that trayvon martin was profiled. they can't si sai he was racially profiled. how important is it that he was profiled by george zimmerman? >> it's important because one of the thing they have to do for second-degree murder, they have to show that he acted out of ill-will, spite and hatred. it's not clear because he didn't know trayvon martin. racial profile, or he racially profiled him are terms that are too inflammatory. nonetheless, the prosecution is going to try to introduce evidence and try to prove that is exactly what he did without using those magic words in opening statement. it's known that the defense
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has evidence to show that george zimmerman was not a racist. that they intend to show to present to the jury to counter anything that the prosecution could claim. without a racist i'm not sure how the prosecution would have a shot of making this case. we'll have to wait and see what evidence they pull out of their bag. it looks like a difficult case for the prosecution. >> shannon: we have a jury seated, six women, one is hispanic, all the reports i've seen the five others are caucasian. what does that say to you if you were trying this case about having that particular jury? >> it does help the defense in some ways. some people say it's all women. that is great defense jury. i think women in general and you started with jury selection with generalizations. women in general tend to look at the whole picture. men tend to focus on incidents like the time of
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confrontation. prosecution wants the jury to look at the whole thing, how he started following him. i wouldn't jump to say defense jury just because it's women, it's the opposite for me. there are women that are better jurors for the defense than some of the other women. some are better for the prosecution. difference being they need unanimous jury. one may turn the others for the defense. so i would say the defense did score a few points on that jury selection. we thought the casey anthony was going to convict all along and you never know. >> shannon: this kicks off tomorrow. judge, thank you very much for your insights. >> shannon: two people are dead after a fiery crash during an air show in ohio. we have to warn you the video you are about to see is graphic and could be disturbing. plane was flying with a stunt man walking on the
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wing when the plane suddenly flipped and slammed into the ground. none of spectators were injured but shocked at what they saw. >> it's kind of surreal, you can't believe it something like that actually happened in front of you and you are kind of in a state of shock, you really don't know what to think. i just started crying. >> rest of show was cancelled but organizers say it will go on as planned today. >> shannon: 2016 presidential speculation has begun, three years away but that is not stopping democrats and republicans. democrats want to elect hillary clinton, some of them but republicans say they are going to stop her. first, a senator joins us with his take on the scandal and how the white house has handled this national security breach. ♪
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♪ ♪ >> shannon: massachusetts police investigating the death of semi pro football player odin lloyd has
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searched aaron hernandez's home the second time but they aren't saying what if anything they found. nicole jacobs has the very latest. >> reporter: saturday afternoon more than a dozen investigators make their way back to 22 ronald seymour drive the home of aaron hernandez after word of three search warrants, detectives with gear in hand did just that for nearly four hours, searched. in the yard, front and back, his vehicle and another parked in the driveway. hernandez at the center of an investigation into the murder of odin lloyd a friend of the tight end found dead in an industrial area miles from hernandez's home. sources tell us there is a arrest warrant for obstruction of justice. we heard the hard drive to the security system of his home and cellphone were
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allegedly heavily damaged. investigators made their way out the same way they came in, but this time with bags of evidence in to. exactly what they collected has yet to be seen just as next move for investigators and hernandez. >> shannon: we will continue to updated with the very latest on that case as it develops. after the break, a senator weighs in on the immigration debate. if no deal is reached who suffers most. she back -- remember the professor that ignited outrage over his stance on jesus assignment. back on the job and we'll have the full story after the break. if you've got it, you know how hard it can be to breathe and man, you know how that feels. copd includes emphysema and chronic bronchitis.
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♪ >> shannon: nsa leaker edward snowden is believed to be in russia.
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flight he was on landed in moscow. hey, peter. >> and senator charles schumer that a problem for u.s. and russian relations. russian president vladimir putin knew and approved of snowden's plans to come to moscow. obama administration is suing bmw facility in south carolina for unfairly using criminal background checks for job applicants. a suit was filed after new guidelines coming out to rejecting minority applicants who committed a crime. >> police and canine units spent four hours combing through aaron hernandez's home in latest search for evidence. they walked away with bags of items and they are trying to find out what connection he had if any of his friend odin lloyd.
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>> and climate change in a speech on tuesday, president obama says he will lay out to reduce carbon solutions, something he called the global threat of our lifetime. those are the top stories. >> shannon: thank you very much. senate is grappling with a complicated debate on immigration reform but hopes to move forward this week. ben cardin is on more than foreign relations committee and he says we need immigration system that is fair. senator, thank you so much for joining us? >> great to be with you. >> shannon: let me ask you because the latest amendment that was introduced on friday serves as replacement for the bulk of the bill, 200 pages long, will you have a chance to read it? >> i will have a chance to review it, i can't tell you read every word but the changes in the amendment deals mainly with border security issues. that we will be closely
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scrutinized. >> shannon: let me ask you about critics. the measure that is now in the senate. critics say there is a lot of discretion built into whoever secretary of homeland security this is being rolled out and implemented and worried that if it triggers minimums not met, that secretary who holds the position at the time could actually overrule some of the teeth that is put into the amendment. how do you respond? >> this bill is balanced. it's balanced between protecting our borders to make sure people come into our country lawfully and they leave our country when their visas expired and based on 11 million who inner a way to be able to stay here, to legally work and get the protections of our law and have a pathway to citizenship. it's that balance we need to main tain in bill. the amendment we are considering on monday puts more money into border
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security. quite frankly, i'm surprised that fiscally conservative members are looking at spending more money when there is no evidence that those dollars are needed. we'll take a look at it. i do hear it's protect our borders and give those that are here a pathway to earn to citizenship. >> shannon: there is a mixed news from the congressional budget office. a non-partisan group that scores these measures and they said while a positive impact fiscally on the country but it will serve to reduce wages and increase the unemployment rate among americans if this measure is passed. >> i think it's going to help our economy. every time, when we get people out of shadows. we get them into work force legally. they don't suppress wages. they usually build up wages. also understand that our economy needs highly skilled workers. one out of five sifts in maryland are not born in
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america. it allows us to get the type of talent we need, type of work force that will be productive so america can be productive. >> shannon: so if it moves through and goes to the house a number of g.o.p. members say it's dead on arrival. they are working on their own issues and measures over there. how do you feel as a senator as invested this is best possible package you could come up with the fact it's going to be met with a lot of opposition? >> i want to see the system work. the bill that is on the floor of the senate is not the bill i would have written, but it is truly a compromise between the democrats and republicans that fix our broken immigration system. the big loser, if we don't get immigration reform done as america, it really affect our competitiveness. yes it affects the 11 million but also the strength of america. what most americans want us to do is to work together
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and bring about results. that is what we are doing in the senate and i hope the house will join us. >> shannon: all right, senator, thanks for sharing with us. arizona is one of the states that will be impacted and arizona governor jan brewer weighs in live at the top of the next hour. and how big of a threat to hillary clinton to the g.o.p. in 2016? a number of groups are spring understanding up with one goal in mind to keep her from getting to the white house. we'll have a fair and balanced debate right after this break. it's tough to keep life balanced. i don't always have time to eat like i should. that's why i like glucerna shakes. they have slowly digestible carbs to help minimize blood sugar spikes. [ male announcer ] glucerna. helping people with diabetes find balance.
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where he asked students to write jesus's name on a piece of paper and step on it. the university said the policy will not be used in the future. will the 2016 presidential race be the first time we see a president at the top of ticket. major focus is hillary clinton and he has not said whether she will run but both parties are prepping for another clinton campaign. what are the chances? joining us is executive director and rnc director tim miller and consultant and deputy finance director david mercer. welcome gentlemen. hillary clinton in 2016 still very guarded whether she is going to do this. if she does, what does she bring to the ticket? >> i think hillary clinton has a lot of experience.
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you have to respect all the same time she spent in washington. she is really not a change agent but somebody from the past. that is why she struggled in the last campaign. on the republican side that is why america rising launched stop hillary ri because we have to do the preparations we are ready to beat her four years from now because it sure looks like he is gearing up to run. >> shannon: the minute the overe prepping for the next one. i have to ask you about the issue of bngz, what happened when she was secretary of state. do you think voters three years from now which is an i entered the in politics will be part of the campaign? >> it is an eternity three years from now. with regard to benghazi, i think that hillary's record that tim spoke to over the years as senator, as first lady, as secretary of state will be the context which she launches a campaign if
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she decides to do so. benghazi among other things to bin laden to arab spring work and preventing also getting out of wars whether it be iraq, afghanistan and down sides go there. i think you have to look at the total record that hillary clinton brings to a potential nomination as opposed to one isolated incident. which a lot of republicans tried to do during the clinton administration for eight years, but they saw it didn't work and i don't think it will work this time. >> shannon: let me ask you. do you think democrats get ticked off only talking about hillary, why not me. hillary is the front of the pack? >> i think it's a respect for hillary clinton with her tenacity. she traveled to more than a hundred countries during her tenure of secretary of state. we saw how she campaigned
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in 2008. she is relentless for fighting for women, fighting for early childhood and whole host of other issues. i think she will be relentless, if she pursues those policies if she runs or doesn't run but can count on her. >> there is certainly a playbook for beating her. barack obama said it for them last time. there are a lot of democrats that might have respect for her but are looking at an opening they see in the left in the primary next time. as for the clinton scandals. you mentioned the benghazi scandal but we're starting to see a number of state department scandals whether the ambassador in belgium, there was a murder in honduras. the political people who work for hillary tried to insulate her from scandals and that is going to continue to be a problem for her over the coming years. >> shannon: i wanted to ask you, issue about
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immigration, reform gets passed, senate version and house version, what happened. do you think its plus or minus for someone like marco rubio who is on the short listed. he obviously pushing for this but other side rand paul and others say it's a no-go? >> i think a lot plays out. marco rubio gets points for showing leadership on this issue. he is in the senate and american people are looking for somebody to try to offer solutions. you got rand paul that has shown leadership on issues on nsa and has offered clear concerns about this immigration reform package and ways it could be fixed. even senator rubio has said we can make it stronger and better as it goes through the process. >> i think that senator rubio deserves a lot of credit for standing up and getting immigration reform which failed in 2007. he sees the numbers. he sees that romney lost by 44 points on the hispanic
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vote. he sees the time economically, cbo came out with the fact that $197 billion over ten years will be saved on the deficit by doing immigration reform. we also know of the warning that lindsey graham gave us that it doesn't matter who the candidate is on the republican side for 2016 if we do not pass immigration reform. so hopefully with those points we will see immigration reform especially coming out of the house. >> shannon: we are going to leave it there. thanks for coming in. all right. within the last three months, government has more than 6,000 new federal regulations. are they using an regulatory power to do an end round around congress? our next guest says yes. you'll hear from him after the break. years in the city of baltimore.
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>>. >> shannon: stargazers were looking at the moon looming large and bright. they occur every month but it's relatively close proximity to earth. moon appeared 12-14% larger and up to 30% brighter. in the last 90 days federal government has posted 66,624 new regulations -- 6,624 new regulations. it goes far beyond their intended limits and trying to immobile business efforts that don't line up with their agenda. scott joins us live. scott thank you for your
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time today. thank you, glad to be on. >> you think this is more about not just regulating but reinstructing and trying to completely silence efforts or or viewpoints that don't patch up. are the past four years. a bad behave in washington. it's escalation of force being embraced and rerewarded so it's shift of regulating with a goal to destroy. this would be a bipartisan issue. when we look at 177,000 pages on the fracking. 120,000 pages of keystone comments. when there is only 2,000 pages to obamacare, it's obvious there is targeting here. what is going on, things are unsafe. its sales pitch. its sales pitch to move america from regulation to restriction. it's an excuse for control
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and not safety. it's disguised and it's all about control. >> shannon: has you it does have an important tact our water and our air and our land is safe. we have gone beyond that and it is even impacting foreign relations and issues of international policy. >> well, let's deal with the environmental impact there, that is big. the iphone of energy has just been invented. it is called the combination of multi stage fracking. obama would like to turn that back to a pager and a goal of turning that back to a pay phone. it is the real endangered species and our military men and women. when you take the flag off the top of a drilling rig he reduced the leasing by 50% in america. when you take that flag off that rig you replace that with the flag on a coffin coming home from us protecting oil
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pathways unnecessarily and it is time america stands up and gets bipartisans and doesn't fall for the phony scare tactics. news flash, there are no more dinosaurs. it was caused by the evolution of earth and no pack will turn that back. co2 is .04% of the atmosphere and it is not a poison. another flash and we will hear about that next week. it is a shame that we can't get together our wounded warriors and all of these exmilitary men and have a march on the epa and a march on the beale. it is right to have a flag to drill to bring our people home. >> well, how dowry spawned to the president saying that what he is doing is making our country safer. it is making us more energy dependent and it can power our homes and our cars rather than having our men and women overseas fighting for things and protecting things that make us rely on foreign governments that don't have our best interest at heart.
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>> we have the ability to get on our own natural resources right now. he is turning his back on it. when you cut leasing by 50% it is the neck rockefellers. the reason why? he doesn't want oil companies to be under control. do you want to increase the wealth of the citizens or the government? when you tax the people rather than grow the revenue and the federal reserve, then you are choking back the private sector and increasing the government sector. you are reducing the employees and the private sector and increasing the employees in the government sector and it has to do with the voters. this is a lot more about control and using green as an excuse. it is not the beatle and the prairie chicken. it is our men and women overseas. we need to get together and we need to drill on our natural resources. the timing is perfect. with one site we are bringing home 30 times the revenue, 30 times. it is such an uphill battle
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for the environmentalists. all they can simply do is say it is 50% unsafe and that's not true. >> it is an important conversation. thank you for joining us for this week's regulation nation. >> thank you. pope francis is marking his first 100 days as leader of the catholic church. is the church image changing 1234* aim -- changing? amy kellogg has more. >> reporter: his warm embrace of a boy with cerebral palsy is the first sign that pope francis has a genuine affection for people. >> he seems very, very sincere about what he is doing. and it really comes across it. >> reporter: he plucked a boy with down syndrome from the crowd and took him for a spin on the pope me beale. >> to be able to kiss people who aren't able to see him, but i think he is reaching out to the group of people who need him most. >> maybe because he spends more time with his weekly
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audience than preaching they reach 100,000, more than three times what they had been before his installation. the catholic church, tarnished by scandal is basking in the so-called francis affect. a new poll found american catholics were going to the mass in the lowest number in decades, 20% going once a week. they hope it will turn around and to woo back the faithful. >> with the new pope with his teachings and his philosophy has brought me back. >> from watching the feet on good friday to blessing bikers last sunday there is a feeling that pope francis wants to touch the lives of people from as many walks of life as he can. pope francis is well on his way to energizing the faithful. there are indications he will be doing some significant housecleaning in the vatican in the coming months. fox news.
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edward snowden has left his hideaway for moscow. coming up, the congresswoman says she knows why it makes sense she is headed somewhere else that might not be so friendly to the u.s. and arizona is known for its tough immigration laws. and when congress can't come up with a solution she is known for taking things into her own hands. january brewer -- jan brewer sounds off. al. citracal. [ female announcer ] you trust your doctor. doctors trust citracal.
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if he thinks he will find a country with a better human rights record in moscow or in havana or caw rare was, he -- caracas, he has another thing coming. if it is better in another country than the united states. >> if he says what he wants and what his actions are, it defies logic. >> after hiding out in hong kong the last several weeks, edward snowden is on the move. a flight from hong kong believed to be holding the
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former nsa con con -- contractor landed in moscow. where will he resurface and will it be for good? according to a wikileaks report he is bound for ecuador. there is a tweet that says the country says received an asylum request from snowden. this from the spokesman from the national director. more leaks are expected. we are in washington where win begin with former house foreign affairs committee chair congresswoman and thank you for joining us today. >> thank you. >> what do you make of this connection and this possible ultimate low cation for snowden in ecuador? >> it is not surprising. although raphael cor re a of ecuador looks more western in his clothing and ways of communicating he is as authoritarian as spots in the region. he is a chavez light and a chavez wanna be.
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now chavez is dead and there is a stooge in venezuela. but when you talk about freedom of the press, it is not respected in ecuador and neither in venezuela or cuba. the epitomy of irony that this gentleman, snowden, has castigated our own government because we are withholding programs and information to the american people, and he seeks refuge in the countries that don't honor any commitment to freedom of the press whatsoever. nobody can understand what his motivation is if it is truly to let the people know everything about the government. he is picking the worst places to seek refuge. first china, russia and now perhaps cuba and venezuela and ecuador, they don't expect freedom of the press and they do more espionage than he can ever imagine. >> what do you make of the time he spent in china and
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briefly in russia if indeed that is the path he was reportedly following today? do you have concerns about what he may have shared with officials in china and russia when it comes to secret information that he may have and how the nsa operates and how the u.s. operates in tracking potential threats? >> we should be concerned that this man may be sharing information to countries that are openly hostile to the united states and that have very open and very nonsecretive in terms of their advertisement of them, programs of sur surveillance against the united states. snowden was against the government surveillance on people, and yet what he was doing is perhaps providing information to the very enemies of the united states of america. china will use that information against us and so will russia and so will ecuador and so will venezuela and so will cuba. if this is a guy who dresses
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himself off as the white knight in shining armor, that knight is awfully rusty and it is looking really bad. that information will be used against us and he will be compromising u.s. national security. shame on him for what he is doing. >> he has come forward to say that he didn't do this in an effort to harm the united states. if he wanted to there was information he could have released that would have gone to that end. he wasn't trying to benefit from this and harm the u.s. is it possible this started with good intentions to alert americans to what he saw as a conflict regarding their privacy and it turned into something else and blown up in his face. do you think all along there were some nefarious motives here? >> we have whistle-blower protections? there were certainly actions to go about divulging information in a way that did not seem to be so suspect. i don't know his motivations, but i know his travels. from you in china and you go
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to russia and thinking about cuba and venezuela and end up in ecuador, it is not because you love the united states so much and you want to protect americans. these are countries that are in no stretch of the imagination friendly to the u.s. they are leading him in why and how? there is something in it for them. china is not doing it as a humanitarian gesture and neither is ecuador or the other countries. they are doing it because they will get something out from him. and what will he do with that information? he will share it to the hostile governments. that does do harm to the united states. i don't know his motivationsment that's to be questioned. i know we should judge hem by his action and these countries are openly hostile to the united states. it calls into question what he wants to get out of this. it is a real irony that he is looking at countries where press freedoms are not celebrated and a person like him would not survive five
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days in china or russia or venezuela or cuba or ecuador. incredible. >> congresswoman, we always appreciate your time and you raise a lot of good points. >> thank you, shannon. there has been a show of bipartisan support for the obama administration to officially charged ward snowden. new york congressman pete king supports efforts of the government while others have been reluctant to call snowden a traitor. a republican senator says if he is not a traitor he is pretty darn close to it. and senator bill nelson backs it up saying, quote, i always thought this was a treasonnist account a. president obama is pushing for the biggest overhaul in 30 years. a senate vote is scheduled to end debate and take up a hard fought border security deal. will the latest amendment be enough to soothe concerns over the bill? and what her own tough on immigration state plans to do next.
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arizona governor jan brewer joins us with thoughts on this whole thing. governor, great to see you. >> nice to see you, shannon. >> governor, i would assume that you agree as others do on both sides of the hill and both sides of the aisle that something needs to be done about immigration. what are you seeing in the senate that is the right or wrong thing? >> i see it taking place as a victory for arizona. i am glad they decided to talk about the border surge we have called out forts -- out forth in 2010 and asking them to take control of our border, operational control. this is a great step forward in regards to that. >> what about questions about how much discretion is built in and the fact that the triggers and minimum standards and different things, judgments about whether they are being met so people can move forward the path to citizenship and there is discretion with the department of homeland security and others about whether or not to waive those and say they have actually been met?
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and the teeth of the bill essentially are left in the hands of a few people's discretion. >> the bottom line is what they are getting ready to debate on monday at 5:30 i understand is a step in the right direction. it is about time. hopefully as it gets out of the senate and moves over to the house, then it can be debated once again and looked at more closely. the bottom line i think the public believes is that we need our border secured before we move forward on any of this other -- on these other provisions that they are talking about. we were promised before the border wouldn't be secure and it didn't happen. the public overwhelmingly agrees that the border needs to be secure and then we need to scuts legalization or the pathway to citizenship. i personally believe in a robust work situation. we need the workers. we need a lot of those people
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in arizona, but we have to be satisfied that it is going to occur. the first step are those resources on the border. >> i want to ask about another decision you made and fought hard to make happen in arizona actually signing on to the expansion that comes hand in happened with the president's new health care law. the supreme court gave discretion in doing that. i know you have taken heat over it and it wasn't the easy decision, but it was the right one so tell us why? >> it was a long deliberation process for me. i didn't do it lightly. the voters twice in arizona have voted to expand medicaid. so we decided that in taking everything into consideration and it was not going to cost our taxpayers a penny that we would move and restore the expansion. that's what the legislature and i have done. in three years there is a trigger in there. we call it a circuit breaker. it goes away if the government doesn't continue to give us our 90% of funding for it.
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it is a win-win for arizona. you know, shannon, the bottom line is the people in arizona have voted for it, and they send their federal dollars to the federal government. all we are doing is bringing the federal dollars back home to arizona and treating the people here that desperately need the care, keeping our hospitals, particularly in the rural area, open and employment and jobs. and that's our goal. i think it was a win-win for even -- for everyone in arizona. every state is different. it was the right thing for the people of arizona. >> i have to ask you since we are talking about the supreme court, i have seen you a lot the last couple years and arizona spent a lot of time with the supreme court, your reaction this week that said arizona can't require above and beyond federal requirements for people who come to register to vote, that they show documents proving u.s. citizenship. i know some say they are discouraged by the ruling, but see a way forward by the opinion written by justice
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scalia saying there are weighing to challenge that -- are ways to challenge that down the road. >> we could require id, but the bottom line is we know the federal registration form you don't have the ability to request that. that's unfortunate. that needs to be remedied. i think united states citizens that are here in arizona want to know you are united states citizens when you vote. you need id when you get a library card. why can't you have id to show that you are a citizen when you go to vote? our most precious ability to be a united states citizen is that ability to vote and cast your vote and have it counted correctly. i'm hoping they come up with a solution and that total ruling and opinion from the court is overruled. >> we know that fight is far from over. governor jan brewer, great to see you. thank you so much. >> thank you.
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this is the future we must avert. this is the global threat of our time. for the sake of future generations, our generation must move toward a global compact to confront a changing climate before it is too late. that is our job. that is our task. we have to get to work. >> president obama is rolling out his clean energy plan in a speech set for tuesday. that was his speech from last week. already this new speech will he will give is facing strong resistance. thisy say there needs to be a clean economy, but others say it could crush the economy. some say it is like west virginia, arkansas and alaska and could kill american jobs. not to mention the timing with all of the security issues facing our country right now. let's talk about it with our digital politics editor who is here live and he hales from west virginia. >> this is a true fact. west virginia's economy has been so devastated already by the restrictions on coal that
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this administration has put into place. another round of it is for folks back home would be pretty hard to imagine. it is hard to deal with. >> i am a little baffled by this speech. i believe it will be at georgetown university in washington. i believe the president has rolled out his policy before. >> the president has a lot of problems these days. one of them -- arguably the biggest is his base is very upset about this domestic surveillance stuff. they really don't like it. climate is a sop for them. even if the transition to green energy doesn't take place. there are two layers. the part that is an op to the base. i may be eavesdropping, but i am talking about global warming so you can be happy about that. and then there the other part that is a practical policy part. even if they can't create the new energy economy they want, they can debilitate the
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existing energy structure so that it becomes unaffordable which in time they believe eventually through these additional expenses and disruptions will make solar panels, wind energy and the like economically competitive. >> well in the meantime, i mean, he is having a tough time getting anything through capitol hill. democrats are controlling the senate and divisions in those parties over multiple issues as wealth. as well. what is the point of bringing this up? will there be a green energy package that is put together and max it through capitol hill? >> no, but the power of the epa is massive. you have done this in your regulation series many, many times. what power the epa has is massive. and what the president has done to this point is say coal energy is cheap. america has cheap abundant electricity in large part because we get nearly half of our electricity from coal. it is inexpensive of the what
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the administration says is you can't build new coal fired power plants, but we have all of these existing power plants. what the president is believed the new york times has reported will roll out is that existing power plants have to have this. even if he want make it happen in time, what he will do is convince these energy companies that the regulatory burden of dealing with the epa will be too much and they will make the shift and start driving up energy prices. >> so he gives a speech this week. the base is happy. does it overshadow these other issues, irs, benghazi, doj, any of the others? >> no. for the remaining democrats from carbon states -- you know it has been murder on moderate democrats. for democrats from carbon states, there is not much left to say about president obama and his administration. this will be huh lay shoes in 2014. the republican in west virginia, good luck. states you mentioned, arkansas, good luck, alaska. they will have to distance
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themselves from the president. there will be consequences. they believe through the power of the epa, this administration believes they can make electricity so expensive that solar and those alternatives are cost effective. >> we shall see. tomorrow, 11:30 a.m. eastern on the web. >> that sounds like a good idea. >> see you there. a wildfire in southwest colorado has grown. it isen coaching on south fork, but officials hope they can save the town. the mayor of south fork says as many as 1500 people have been forced to evacuate and it could be days before any of them are allowed to return to their homes. congressman charlie wrangle is not sure a deal will get done and he is blaming the tea party. why it could be the, quote, final nail in the coffin for the gop. and a proposal that will force feds to testify in front of congress or harsh re on that next.
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fox news alert. we are getting word that the former nsa contractor edward snowden is headed for ecuador. in a statement a few moments ago released by wikileaks he is bound for the republic of
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ecuador for the staff route of seeking asylum that he is being escorted by advisors from webbing key leaks. a foreign minister has received an asylum request from edward snowden. we were told today he has gone through moscow from hong kong. it appears by all of the reports we are seeing now that he is headed for ecuador. as we learn more about that, we will keep you updated. in a couple of weeks the irs is said to close its doors for a day. employees will not come to work on july 5th and they won't get paid. this is part of the furlough system. if the agency is so short on money they have to furlough employees how come it is handing out $70 million in bonuses? democratic congressman charlie wrangle is here to talk about that and much more. congressman, how are you doing today? >> well. thank you for having me on your show.
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>> we hear the $70 million in bonuses may be pursue went to a union contract that senator orrin hatch is calling something that looks leak a payoff. what do you make of it? >>s that's an enter national problem the administration would have with the labor unions and with the workers. of course, if you are saying orrin hatch the senator is providing oversight in terms of the payment of internal revenue service i really think there are more rnt poo issues -- >> there are more important issues than the pay and the low-level internal revenue workers. >> $70 million is not a drop in the bucket. if we talk about sequestration and these employees staying home on huer low days with -- furlough days with no pay. >> there is no question there has to be explanations, but i cannot believe when we find republicans refusing to on you lou the president to -- to allow the president to increase the debt ceiling and we can't get an agriculture bill or immigration bill and
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we can't have tax reform that we are going to find something just because the irs is in the middle of investigations, i don't think we ought to pile up on them. there are any number of federal employees that we would want answers to whether or not the pay is fair and equitable. i am afraid the republican target is embarassment rather than a search for the truth. >> you say republicans have trouble when it comes to a number of issues. you are citing immigration in the fact that even though the senate passes something there are colleagues that say it is dead on arrival. they want to do something different. they are not a fan of the senate right now. what is your take on em gracious and whether it gets done? -- on immigration and whether it gets done. >> the answer would be the number of republicans in my opinion -- the number of republicans in the senate that sign on to this compromised bill. they have many people from the states that are not very friendly to new americans or
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to the possibility that we have new americans and if they vote with the majority, assuming the bill passes the senate they will have problems back home. but this is a historic vote. it not only will change the economic culture and the direction of our great country, but it is going to have an impact as to how long the republican party will be in existence. for some it is going to be a very difficult vote. but most people agree it is the right thing for the country, and it certainly is a right thing to make certain we have two parties competing against each other. as many problems as that may have with the republican party at this time and place, i would hate for them to see themselves just go out of business, and we don't have this competitive form of ideas in our great country. >> well, i would guess that your friends across the aisle are feeling pretty fiesty. they don't see that as a short-term possibility, but we shall see.
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we have asked folks to tweet their questions so we can ask different lawmakers including yourself about immigration. i want to read uh tweet and give you a chance to answer. this comes from hemmyhead7310. it says why are you refusing to enforce the laws we already have instead of wasting time and money on new immigration laws? >> we should have done that a longtime ago. anytime you have a law where you are going to force the law against the person that is violating the law in coming to this country, but you don't have sanctions against the american farmers and others that are hiring them, you know it is unfair and it is not equitable. the fact is we really have invited these people to come here because they never faced any penalty or any sanction. that is why it is good to have the rules and to make certain that they are enforced on both sides. the workers that will be working as well as the employers and the americans that hire them. you never heard of employers
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of so-called illegal aliens ever being prosecuted. it is totally unfair. >> is it fair to say people who pass laws are to blame for those who break them? is that what you are saying? >> no. we are not to blame. we are to blame for not enforcing the law. that is the government. that is a part of the executive branch. we have laws on the book that says if anyone says why don't we enforce them, i have been saying this for decades that you just don't round up people and deport them without taking a look as to who invited them to come in and work in the first place. we know big billses -- big businesses depend on cheap labor and that's why they have never been asked to enforce the law. but congress passed these laws and the laws are on the books. it is just no question that the executive branch, republican and democrat, never enforced the law as it relates to the employer. >> all right.
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well hopefully that tweeter was watching and got to hear the answer straight from you. congressman rangle, always good to see you. thank you. >> thanks for having me. the house republican wants to fire any federal employees who refuse to answer questions or commits perjury at hearings. congressman brooks introduced a bill that would just do that. it is in response to lois lerner. she refused to testify in front of coming after making a statement and taking the fifth. congressman brooks says it is a necessary step for proper oversight for all americans. the judge in the george zimmerman trial deals a blow to the prosecution as opening statements are about to begin. and word that edward snowden is bound for ecuador. the cat and mouse game he is now playing with the u.s. government.
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it looks like nsa leak erred ward snowden will -- leaker edward snowden will end up in ecuador. ecuador's flag was spotted to be where he landed earlier today. they released a statement saying, quote, he is bound for ecuador via a safe route. but sources say the u.s. government revoked the former contractor's passport. turning to other top stories, opening statements begin in the trial of george zimmerman. he is the neighborhood watch volunteer accused of killing trayvon martin. the prosecution delivered a blow when they bared expert testimony about the audiotape of a 9-1-1 call. and police and k-9 units spent hours combing through aaron hernandez's home in their latest search of evidence. they walked away with bags of items. police are trying to find out
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what connection if any hernandez had to the shooting death of his friend, odin lloyd. this week the supreme court will wrap up its term as we await several landmark opinions on topics from same-sex marriage to affirmative action is coming down to the wire. here now is the chief council for the judicial crisis network. welcome. >> thanks. i have to ask you both, are you surprised this amount, this level of high-profile cases is left at this point? >> it takes a long team to write these big opinions. i think the court and all of these cases, the affirmative action case and marriage equality and voting rights is dealing with the meaning of equality in the constitution across all of these cases. that is the big issue. and so the court -- what i will be looking for is whether the court has an air tech lat investigation in the constitution. remaining true to the 14th
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equal pro ex techs clause that -- equal protection clause that guarantees equality for all including marriage to broad language that guarantees equality to any person, black or white or straight or gay or immigrant or citizen. >> and you mentioned the same-sex marriage came. there is one dealing with a state measure and one with a federal measure. and they have gotten the most attention probably this term. but as we await to see what the court is going to do, there is a lot of attention being placed on some remarks by justice scalia speaking at a function saying the justices can't be moral arbitors. they should leave it to the public and not mentioning this case because he can't say anything while it is pending, but saying tough decisions of a moral nature should be left to the american people. what does that suggest to you, carrie? >> the meaning of equality is an issue, but there is a question of who gets to decide in these tough questions? certainly we see that in the prop 8 case.
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can the citizens in california decide to define marriage within their state in the defense of marriage act, the same with the federal government does the government have the ability to define marriage? why not have that authority through their own laws. that's what the court will be doing. does the court teak that away from the people and their representatives, or do they let this play out in the political process for contentious issues like we are seeing here, i think history shows us they should be worked out through the political process and not usurping that. >> we see a number of states moving forward and approving same-sex marriage and changing in that respect. we will see whether the justices allow that to continue at the state level or elsewhere. but it is interesting in both of these same-sex marriage cases it is possible they don't get to the merits. there are these wonky technical and procedurallish a yous and how difficult will it be to both sides of the argument if they don't go to the merits and they go to the
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conservative? >> it is disappointing to families and couples who want their marriages to be recognized as just as good as anyone else's marriage. the bans on marriage equality really plays a badge of second class citizenship on gay and lesbian couples. their relationships and their families and the constitution prohibits that. if the court doesn't step up and decide the merits of the case, that is a disappointment. the constitution takes certain issues out of the democratic process. the constitution says no this is so important that we are declaring equality for all persons in the constitution. the court held that just about 40 some years ago when it struck down bans on interracial marriage, and it should do so again for gay and lesbian couples who want the same recognition, and to which they are entitled the same recognition under the constitution. >> is this case different? >> the question is whether the constitution did that.
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in 18 secretary 8, if that's what the 14th amendment meant is marriage between a man and woman is actually not correct, that need marriage between anybody that wants to be married. that is a long shot to say in 18 secretary 8 that is what the constitution was -- in 1868 that's what the constitution was meant to say. the amendment was talking about race. i think that is absolutely clear. whether our country wants to take it another step and change the definition of marriage, that's something the political process has to work out. we can have another amendment go through and talk about that, but that's not what the 14th amendment said. our constitution talks about which kind of cases the court can decide. the issue -- the procedural issues are sticky and it may be these particular cases that were brought up aren't ones the court is able to decide although that would be frustrating for even after the time and -- for everyone after the time and effort that wept into the opinion. >> super quick i want to talk about affirmative action and
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whether a school can use race in admissions policies. this has to do with the university of austin. it was heard in october and still outstanding meaning that they are struggling with this. do you think race will or won't be allowed in admission policies? >> i think if the court follows the history of the 14th amendment they will allow the policy to go through. >> including the use of ?rais. >> including the use of race. the drafters of the 14th amendment were for the 14th amendment and it includes programs that were intended to allow increased opportunity to ask an american and they rejected arguments that this race conscious measure was somehow violating the constitution. they expressly wanted equal protection clause to go beyond race. they rejected proposals for language of the 14th amendment that would have limited it to race. >> and a quick sentence to carrie. >> as chief justice roberts
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wrote the best way to stop discrimination of race is stop discriminating on race. we need color-blind admissions policies that's how we will effect it to be truly equal before the law. >> within days answers to all of these questions. thank you very much. >> thank you, shannon. are veterans coming home from war facing new dangers at home? >> he said it was a cocktail of poison. >> how prescription drugs are becoming a potentially deadly problem here for our men and women returning to the home front.
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it it is not surprising because although raphael correa, the president of ecuador looks more western in his clothing and his way of communicating he is just as authoritarian as many spots in the region. he is a chavez light and a chavez wanna be. now chavez is dead and they
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have meduro as the stooge there. but when you talk about freedom of the press it is not respected. >> that our congresswoman commenting on edward snowden heading to ecuador. the guessing game of where the former contractor would end up started this morning. after hiding out in hong kong snowden was on the move. a plane he was believed to be aboard flew from hong kong to moscow. a car flying ecuador's flag was spotted at the airport in moscow and then the foreign minister tweeted his government had received an asylum request from snowden. wikileaks who is giving legal assistance released a statement saying, quote, he is bound for ecuador via a safe route. routers is reporting that sources say the u.s. government has revoked the former nsa contractor's passport.
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over the last decade the department of defense spent $2 billion on immediate -- on medications including powerful anti-depressants for veterans of war. but it could be doing more harm than good. one vet was told he is lucky to be alive. >> you were taking depp -- depicot and siricol at the same time? >> yes. >> what was the result? >> i gained a hundred pounds and i now have diabetes. >> in november of 2004 charles perkins returned from iraq. and like many veterans he was immediately sent to a psychiatrist from the department of veterans affairs. it was to treat post traumatic stress disorder. >> over the period of a year you saw 13 different v.a. psychiatrists and many giving you different diagnosis. >> yes. it is very hard going from doctor to doctor. >> and most giving him more
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and more pir -- prescriptions. in fact, perkins ended up with 25 different prescriptions for 25 different drugs. all prescribed by v.a. doctors. >> you ended up going to see your own doctor and he told you you were lucky to be alive? >> he said i was on a cocktail of poison. >> he is not alone receiving mood altering medication from the military and v.a. in the past 10 years the military and v.a. spent $2 billion medicating its men and women. with anti-anxiety and anti-psychotic medication. >> it is something this spokesman defends. >> in the last decade we made great strides in accessing ago -- increasing access to care and decreasing stigma in getting that care. >> a stance psychiatrist peter bragin says seems
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compassionate, but is in reality you are response -- irresponsible. >> you are producing chronic mental patients. >> most psych medications alter the brain chemistry that often creates a life long dependence. >> it can be horrific to try to come off of many of these psychiatric drugs and many times patients simply can't get off of them. >> many doctors say once you start these medications, it is almost impossible to get off. what does that mean for you? >> if i stop taking the medications, then i start having nightmares and sleep less nights. >> he is only 37 years old, but he knows he will be on psych drugs for the rest of his life. a cons -- a consequence, he says of trusting his v.a. caregivers. in charleston, west virginia, douglas kennedy, fox news. it was a wild week for the market. brenda butner will be up next to break it down. stay tuned.
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allies are supposed to treat each other in decent ways and putin seems almost eager to put a finisher in the eye of the -- a finishing inert eye of the united states whether it is syria, iran and now with snowden. that's now how allies should treat one another and i think it will have serious consequences for the united states-russia relationship. >> democratic senator charles schumer says the stop in moscow could chill already cold u.s.-russia relations. snowden reportedly landed in moscow on his way eventually we believe to ecuador. the democratic lawmaker appearing on talk shows. they say vaw lad vladimir putin probably knew of snowden
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coming. investors sparked a huge selloff that rippled around the globe. what can we expect as the markets open this week? fox news senior correspondent brenda butner is here to break it down. >> hi, shannon. bet you didn't want to look at your 401k this week. friday ended up slightly, but ahock sent the s&p 500 that is likely part of your retirement plan down more than 2% for the week. it has fallen nearly 5% from an all time closing high in mid-may. so are the bulls just taking a breather or skidding to a stop? the selloff started after the head of the fed hinted that the central bank would easy up on its easy money policy. why does it matter? the bond buying binge helped wall street run with one of the best bull markets ever. the low interest rates created by those purchases push investors into stocks and help consumers and businesses because the money is cheap. so the market is worried
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higher rates on everything from mortgages to the auto loans will keep you from spending on stocks and slow the economy too. plenty to move wall street this week. we hear from many fed members giving speeches and important info on housing prices and pending home sales and consumer confidence. if you are licking your wounds after last week, keep this in mind. the s&p 500 has come very far very fast. it is still up 12% so far this year just short of its increase of 13% for all of last year. will the latest selloff be a buying opportunity or have nervous investors running for the exits. looking ahead, one thing is certain, uncertainty. the gauge of volatile tee and anxiety for wall street has spiked since word of the potential end of easy money. shannon, back to you. >> brenda, thank you very much. >> thank you. up next, how a cop in texas ran into some real monkey business while writing a speeding ticket.
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for pups in san diego, california, they took part in a surfing competition. they each had 10 minutes to catch the best wave. it was for a good cause, raising money for the aspca. >> can you sign right here? whoa! >> rookie police officer in texas got a really big surprise during a routine traffic stop this week. check it out. he was writing a speeding particular -- ticket and a monkey jumped out from the back backseat and bit his hand. it left a mark, but the officer was not hurt. the monkey is a trained pet that performed -- performs at carnivals and you a parentally attacks officers as well. >> that's it for us. thank you for watching fox
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news where we remain proud and fearless. i'm chris wallace. breaking news. nsa leaker -- leaker edward snowden leaves hong kong. and picking up steam in the senate. a deal would mean more patrols, more fences and more money along our southern border. >> we are investing resources and securing our border that has never been invested before. >> but opponents are unmoved. >> as long as they insisted upon legalization first before border security, the bill is not going to pass the house of representative. >> we will discuss immigration reform and and the split in the gop with a member of a gang of eight, senator lyndsay graham and mike lee.

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