>> welcome to this special edition of "hannity". we made an entire audience of african american conservatives talk about some of the most important controversial issues regarding race in our society. since we have seen time and time again if you are african american and you are conservative you are vilified, you are demonized. tonight due to the overwhelming response we received about the program we decided it was important to do a second show. for the next hour i will be joined once again by another group of renowned african american conservatives and before i turn to the floor and turn it over to them there are a few statistics that i believe are important to highlight. first democrats like to perpetuate the lie that they are the party of minorities and to their point in the last election

the presidential election according to fox news exit polls 93 percent of af condition america -- african americans voted for obama only 6 percent for romney. why? let's take a look at statistics. back in obama became president the unemployment rate among african americans was a startling 12.7 percent. guess what? fast forward that number is even worse. the employment rate for this group is 13.5 percent. unfortunately those aren't the only startling statistics when it comes to those for example who need food stamp assistance. in 2009 over 7 million african americans participated in the program. now according to the most recent information we have this number has raiisen over 10 million. that's not all. in 2009 over 9 million african americans were listed as living in poverty, shouldn't come as a shock today that number is worse according to the latest data over 10 million are listed in

that category. my question is this. clearly president obama's policies aren't helping african americans. why wouldn't they want to see what conservatives have to offer. joining me to help answer this question a distinguished group of african american conservatives give yourselves a big hand. welcome. thank you. last time i got in trouble for saying african american. why is that the wrong term? you agree? is that the wrong term? hands up, wrong term. how many right term? >> doesn't matter dealing with african american verses black. i had a conversation with james earl jones it took a while to get from colored to negro. poverty knows no color. the fact of the matter is liberals utilize an agenda that actually exploits us. >> i understand intellectually

that's the right argument. language however matters. when you hyphenate yourself as americans but you don't focus on the fact that we are people we are human, you are american. the left uses the hive natiyphe to separate you and if nothing else fight back at the language itself. >> what bothers me about it is jesse jackson is the one that a man said we would henceforth be african american. he moved us from black. that's why i rejected it. >> i look forward to the time and day when whether it is black american or african american we get away from hyphenated americans. we are americans period. we are going to make the transition the way we need to. america has come to the revolution of constitutional bounty and come back together moving forward we have to see ourselves as americans. you don't go to french and see black french or italian or brown

italians. we are americans. >> it is really self segregation when we hear this term. when you are african american. we are africans but not necessarily americans. we are americans like everyone else. i reject jesse jackson's self degradation paradigm. >> we should reject that every opportunity. the left put people in boxes the left said war on women war on black man. it's identity politics. i refuse to be placed in their box. i have never been in their box. i have never been to africa. i am black. if you want to be african american or any one wants to be i am fine with that, too. but i refuse to let someone who was a charlotte tan like jesse jackson define who i am. >> there's an important point about the culture it's american not just black. any one can become to america by coming to this country going through the process coming from any country in the world it's unique about this country. you can keep your italian or irish or every heritage you know where you come from.

>> where yare you making fun of irish family? >> i am. i can do that i have irish in my family. you can become american any country can become an american. why do we self segregate to use the right word. let's focus on what matters. >> god did not make us color blind. god gave us the ability to see in color. i look at white i look at black i look at hispanic, i don't care. that's the point we need to get to. it's not so much, i am a black american. i don't care to say that. i am glad i am proud. i was raised in a house with james brown. over and over again i have this in my head. i am not ashamed of it. i don't care. that has to be the message we take. stop caring. >> i want you to know i lost all control of the show. this was not the topic. this is important. >> we have spent the last couple of minutes talking about color.

when we have a high unemployment rate, when we have more black men in prison today when in fact we did a college education but can we find a job? yet when shawn read the statistics the majority of us still voted for a president that does not represent our conservative. >> wait i have a question. why? >> because right now we as republicans have not put forth a urbana agenda to counter what the democrats and president obama has said. not one time when we look at high unemployment when the president introduced his nominee for secretary of labor he talked about disability, he talked about the lbgt communities, not one time in that 5 minute speech did he talk about anything about the african american or black community and unemployment. >> yes, back there. then start. >> i will say this. with the color thing my mom is 86 years old. somebody walked up to her and said sister do you know where you are from? she said, yeah, i am from long island new york.

she said no, what country are you from? i am from the united states of america. that's the way they are trying to shove it down their side. if we can say hey, you know what, we are americans. i served in the military. we aren't black-and-white in the military -- we weren't black-and-white in the military we were the united states military. we protected each other, we watched each other's backs. when we were black or white yellow red thooes what we have to do. >> isn't there a spiritual component to this. i am a christian i believe god created every human being with talent and ability, unfortunately the way society is now a lot of our kids all races are falling behind. these statistics aought to scar everybody. the unemployment rate for black teenagers in this country right now is 50 percent. those kids are now going to be on the street they are not going to be working developing the

skills to get ahead in life. >> that was the point about having a rapid response when they play race. the president just made a declaration that we should do away with christian and/or catholic education because these are divisive. yet one of the primary reason we have such high unemployment rate in the black community is because these young people are not getting a quality education. >> none of us choose our birth. but what we should be able to choose regardless of color, and we recognize it we see it for what it is we should be able to choose our future. we have opportunity in this country. there's a promise of america and you don't choose your birth but you choose your future you should have a right to pursue it. >> i have a question, show of hands. how many in this audience think the president's agenda, you got 93 percent of the black vote in the last election. how many of you think his policies have hurt black

americans? anybody? all of americans. but specifically when we are dealing with -- okay. we are going to take a break. we will come back to that point when we get back. next on the special edition of "hannity"." >> join me in the party of disappointment so that we may all echo the words of one republican leader who famously said, free at last, free at last. >> that was a louisiana state senator who recently decided to leave the democratic party and join the gop. we will discuss his bold decision and even some members of our studio audience say they have made the same switch they are going to explain their reasoning coming up on this special edition of "hannity". [ male aouncer ] it's 7am and steve is already thinking about tomorrow. which is why he's investing in his heart health by eating kellogg's raisin bran®. mom make you eat that? i happen to like raisins.

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illusion that their agenda and their policies are what is best for black people. at the heart of liberalism is the idea only the great and powerful big government can be the benefactor of social justice for all america. the left is concerned with only one thing, control. they disguise this control as charity. the idea that blacks or any one for that matter need the government toment get ahead in life is despicable. >> he is not the only black american who feels that way. some members of our audience were also at one time members of the democratic party and they eventually saw the light. pw shannon you are the speaker of the house. >> were you a democrat? >> i was for about two-year when is i first registered. i didn't learn my conservative values from an elected official i learned it from my predominantly african american church in oklahoma. we can't wait for the government to lead whether it's education

or healthcare. the national party has shown they are either unwilling or incapable to make the necessary changes that are going to move this country forward. if there's going to be change it has to be in the halls of the state government. >> why is obama in his 5th year it's not helping the whole country specifically black americans. >> we in america we are attracted to icons. i think in his election initially represented a moment in history where we knew there had been some progress. the fact that there was an african american elected. that's not bad thing at all. many felt a sense of pride. the bottom line is the policies are going to make the difference and make the legacy. those policies have not been in fave of not only african americans native americans or america hasas a whole. >> not just policy but making the case. making the argument i was talking to my friend sonny johnson earlier about how it's time for us especially black

conservatives to move beyond the race discussions and start talking about how we persuade people. honestly when i had had an open passionate discussion about why i am a conservative former liberal now conservative and i have explained why, it's because i care for my people. it's because i care for my community. it's because everything we have been doing for the last 50 years has made things worse for us not better. i want us to try something different. you start winning people. we need to have the discussion. >> judge, you are a superior court judge in north carolina. >> yes. >> and a role model and success story for everybody. are these kids going to be left behind if they are not working in the summertime? >> absolutely. i have been a member of the republican party for 10 years now, proud member. had a road to damascus conversion where i fell off the donkey and i saw the light. i had had the opportunity to

speak with friends and family about the conversion and the conversation starts around the kitchen table with the cup of coffee and one person at a time discussing what our valueings were growing up in our households and in our churches. >> katrina you are back with us she has her girl boots on with dallas tea party. >> she is right we need to take responsibility and get out there and actually deliver the message. unfortunately i think that when people do meet us and realize we are not mean crazy right wing extremists they like you they make an exception for you. >> right wing nut job extremist all of the above. what really needs to happen those at the top of the republican party they are the ones that have to make the message clear they have to go to the neighborhoods and show these kids who they are so that they

are not the mean monster in the back of the closet. >> show of hands republicans failed to reach out to the community. >> sean, even more. >> i will leave this alone. i am a big proponent of taking responsibility. i have always been that way. i am not going to throw snoins not directly at the republican party. i am going to start with myself and the conservatives in this room which makes me so proud to be here. we are going to use biblical examples. we are like the joshua and caleb that went to see the promised land. we are going to come back and tell everyone this is okay. we can take the land. we have to be patient. i am going to get this out. we have to be patient with those that cannot see the light that aren't there yet and go back to our communities. i don't want the republican party to go to my family i can go myself. if we do that we can convert way

more people. >> i switched parties in 93 from democrats to republican. i wrote a book bamboozle. look at each chapter in the book is based on a chachter in the bible. i went to tennessee to the church of the world to over come predominantly back church and gave a sermon about why we have left who we are as black conservatives. when you go to the house of god and you talk about uncle sam isn't your baby's daddy you need to get married before ufz a child not lean on the government people will listen. >> there's a problem with all of these labels rather than talking principles values and what works. we hear about switching to republican. i want to tell people you should first recognize you have a

choice. you should at least know why you have made that choice. have a reason and a basis for that choice. we want to be liberal be a liberal but know why you are a conservative. >> republicans need to go into people's communities look people in the eye shake their hand and ask for their vote. >> ask for the vote. hang on we have to take a break. coming up we are going to have more with the studio audience. everybody is really shy coming up after the break. we will talk about how the mainstream media tries to perpetuate the lie that republicans and conservatives they don't like or care about minorities we will deal with that when hannity continues. o ahhh let's leave the deals to hotels.com. perfect! yep, and no angry bears. up to 30% off. only at hotels.com.

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welcome back to our black conservative special part 2.

and members of the main street media have been in the pocket of the obama administration since the date he stepped food in the oval office, maybe one lie the so-called journalists have been repeating they tried to push this over the years when conservatives criticize the obama white house they say the president's race is a factor. here's a recent example from the left wing nbc host martin bashir talking to the irs enemy. e irs enemies list. watch this. >> the irs is being used in exactly the same way as they tried to use the president's birth certificate. you see, for republicans like daryl islip, the irs stands for something inflammatory. those three letters are now on fire with political corruption burning hot just like that suspicious fire that engulfed mr. isis warehouse back in 1982. and despite the complete lack of any evidence linking the president to the targeting of tea party groups, republicans

are using it as their latest weapon in the war against the black man in the white house. >> all right. we continue -- you don't like this, all right. >> that's an amazing comment. the irs a few weeks ago actually apologized for this targeting of the tea party and conservatives. so with the irs, in fact, try to embarrass obama when they apologized for this behavior? this is delusional. any time people criticize obama for racist reasons is because -- >> i just had a reporter do this to me, like four different ways he said, you don't like the president because he's black. i said, no, i don't like him because he's a socialist. kara? sorry. >> that's okay. i'm a member of the westchester tea party and one of the founding principles is the relying on the constitution. and i believe there's a misconception when we say we

want to go back to the constitution, they think race and slavery, but that's not it. the constitution explicitly says we are all created equal. so talking at going into schools and talking to young children, i think if we show them the constitution and what it actually means and explain it to them, maybe that would draw them to it more and to realize that it is there to help us and protect us but not to give us things. >> i know our founding fathers, we can deal with the whole issue of our constitutional convention, i don't think the country would have been formed if they tried to deal with the evil of slavery at the time. they tried. but one thing to their credit and their wisdom they put in place a system where we can right wron and correct injustices and history has proven, the country fought a civil war, we had a civil rights movement, the '64 voting rights civil rights act. carol? >> i would like to say that for me, i've been a democrat most of my life and i made the switch

maybe about ten years ago. it was not easy to become a republican. i went democrat, independent and eventually republican. and i don't see how anyone that calls themselves a christian could actually belong to the democratic party. >> why do you say that? >> because it's the party of abortion. and if you look at the impact on african-americans, if republicans were doing to blacks what democrats are doing, it would be called genocide. >> wow. ron kristy? >> the think we said at the top of the segment that upsets me the most is that the white house use race as a means to stop conversation. if you say that someone is a racist or they play the race card, the policies have failed americans in general to fail the black community in particular. what they are doing for the lack of school choice is killing our kids. what they are doing with gun violence in our inner killing black kids, but does the media want to discuss this?

no, because it takes away from the narrative that obama the democrat is doing great things and republicans are racist and they don't really get it. >> go ahead. >> just to see you back on that point, the left uses race as an emotional video. the video you just showed, on empower.org we have an action for black conservatives to take action and to send him a note to make him apologize for what he did. and another thing i want to mention is that when we have black conservative that is come out to promote liberty and personal responsibility, we need a support system. because there are way too many people who are afraid to come out and say something because of targeting from their family, their friends, people who are close to them. and so we have a great room of leaders here. there are many, many more black conservatives out there. and we need to do more of these programs, but also to develop a support system so that there are more people that can come out for liberty and talk about the implorable educational numbers and the ridiculous crime rates and all that. >> carl?

>> i think there are three things we have to do. we have to show up in communities like rand paul did when he went to howard university, so we have to go to communities -- normally that wouldn't be receptive to our message. second, we have to communicate what we stand for. why is it a benefit? not just for that community, but for the whole country. and then we have to justify our brand, our real brand, not the perceived brand. so, we need to use examples like our gop governors. these governors, rick perry and we have other great governors in red states, if you live in those states, you have a greater chance of their conservative policies, so we need to make a connection. there are people moving to the red states and don't realize they are moving towards the benefits of limited government, economic freedom. and then they vote like they did in the blue states they moved from. so we need to incorporate those three plans. show up, communicate and justify. >> i just want to make a point. i just want you to know --

>> hang on, let me get a mike on you. >> i'll take yours. no. i just wanted to point out, we spent six months fighting for school choice in texas and it failed. so i just want to make that point. >> i want to take a break. we'll get everybody in. i know we have a lot more to cover. we still have half the show. coming up, more with our special studio audience of black conservatives as "hannity" continues. by the way, thank you for being with us. you hurt my feelings, todd. i did?

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years with their so-called representation of the black community. we need to demolish it itself. they need to be sure they get paid 175,000 a year like every other congressional conservative. some of the nonsense they have done they put this service to us. we look at detroit, at cleveland, north carolina and all over the country those communities are not doing well. they are bulldozing neighborhoods. >> absolutely. >> it is horrible. it is horrible. >> you are going to weigh in. >> you asked the question you said why 93 percent of the black vote is going to president obama. i didn't hear any one address that. when you speak of the issues you

need to talk about idolatry. exalting people love god. if you look at the second term not the first term everybody got caught up in the first black president type thing. when you look at the second term it was idolatry. the sheep clothes are off. everybody knew what they were getting but they still voted for him because they exalted the color of their skin over the word of god. if we don't address that and say that my friend is idolatry. >> you mean people who get that thrill up their leg is that what you are talking about? >> that's the first step to idolatry. >> i feel like that's the x factor for the black community it's the church. if you look at the conservative principles we have social, we have government, we have -- you got to get back to the church. the church is the one that fought for fwree dom the church

is bine nearing itself. it goes back to us being christian. black people when they heard it from grandmothers or moms they know something about church. >> i knew jackson, i knew andrew young i was best friends with jose williams. i knew john lewis. the bravery these men showed during the civil rights movement are unprecedented but they are all liberal democrats. lewis far con as a church has part of the message about responsibility is good. >> one of the things we are doing in baton rouge we have a mentor program called conservative protege program. we are in entrepreneur ship. these kids are not -- the shipment truant mentality. we go out there and ask them what they want to be when they grow up that's what everybody asks them. we ask what kind of business they own when they grow up.

they can be a pipe if you look at what you want to be when you grow up they say pipe fitter. we ask what kind of business they say a refinery owner. >> as long as they sadidn't sayv or radio talk show host. die need any more competition. >> we show the kids that only way they are getting out of this is owning their own. >> then they will own their own house and business and yes. in the corner. >> i am charles butler. >> hi, charles. >> i listen to everyone talk here and i really appreciate your point of view. i have been a republican since 72 university of michigan. but the issue here is, we haven't focused on illegal immigration and immigration reform. we have people who are talking about legalizing 12 million people and bringing in another 33 million guest workers who are

going to impact people who are at the lower socio economic level jobs in the country. >> they just said that in this report. >> the cbo has already said that it is going to be a very detrimental impact have very detrimental impact on black americans. i just read the report the other day. i am telling you those are issues we need to focus on. we want to come and fight this thing we need to deal with it now and we are doing that through the black alliance. >> jennifer, we haven't gotten you in. >> thank so much. i wanted to address a few things. number one, i am the social media director for the tea party dot net. talking about the left using race as a basis for everything. i manage our facebook page. majority 75 percent of posts that go up are from me. yet we still get put a picture up about obama and say something about his policies and races. i shared videos of me speaking at tea party rallies i shared articles that i have written.

people still accuse me of not existing because i can't question obama. i think -- >> you look real to me. >> one thing we really need to keep in mind when you think about both hive nation and it's not just the loss of the black community but also the use. it's the fact that we have let the left take control of the school system. i was a teacher for 12 years. i remember teachers from well to do areas talking about the kids who had a mother who was a drug addict and a father in prison. they let these kids fight by and gave them all of these special privileges. i would tell them you are not doing that child any favors. they need structure in their life beyond anything because of what they are going through at home. >> you know what they need? they need a mom and a dad. maybe they -- my father did the belt they need discipline. >> i was the toughest teacher in the school. they wanted to be in my class

because they knew i would hold them accountable but they knew there was time to have fun but they worked hard because i expected it. what about the expectations. >> we have to take a break. that's a great point. i wish i had you as a teacher. all of my teachers are liberal. >> i didn't know what i was at the time. >> we have to take a break. more of the studio audience straight ahead as "hannity" continues. [ female announcer ] your smile. like other precious things that start off white, it yellows over time. when it comes to your smile, if you're not whitening, you're yellowing. crest whitestrips whiten as well as $500 professional treatments. guaranteed. crest 3d white whitestrips.

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>> welcome back to the special edition of "hannity." jason riley blast but not least. >> i wanted to pick up on something about why the enthusiasm among blacks for

obama is what it is. simplism. but i think media plays a role in making blacks guilty if they don't support the president. i see the media an extension of the left. the left has no use for blacks who don't want to blame it on another person. if you want to blame racism or legacy of slavery there's an all purpose explanation they will embrace you with their arms on the left. if you have skills and ill legitima legitimacy rates it sees you more as a threat. >> we discussed it's acceptable in the media to excortiate and use the worst personal nasty vicious attacks. >> they start psycho analyzing it. >> i wanted to address the fact

of blind loyalty so many times in people that i speak with they just automatically go democrat when i say what do you think about this politician or this politician? i don't care about that i am going to go democrat. my mom voted democrat or my aunt voted democrat or my brand mother voted democrat. so we are democrat. what i think is important is to be able to know and understand both sides and then make an educated decision not just a blind loyalty, because when you just blindly follow, often times you fall into a ditch and you don't know why you are there so you don't know how to get out. >> i know you wanted to jump in. >> i am with you. i am more conservative than i am gop. that is the reason because i was brought up in the tea party. what i think the difference between the tea party and gop is people orientated rather politics orientated. i am a people person.

using my joout tyouth the discos when you say the constitution is good we want to go back to founding principles we want to do all of these they don't know what the principles are. they don't want to hear what the principles are. give him a ball let tell him here is your card. never let a police officer take their wallet from you. nuv never never go empty. you give them something to fight for. you cannot go in and say this policy is good they ask where are the blacks in the tea party. where are blacks showing up at occupied wall street. where are blacks in the rest? >> i am one of the original tea

party founders. when excoriated over shir rad she was out there. we never talked about color we talked about education, we talked about giving you skin in if the game is giving you knowledge. knowled knowledge is power. why is it r5 7 years 20,970 days is where the inner city has fallen apart they have lost 90 percent of the population or spent more than a decade at the number one spot on the poverty list. we are not teaching americans black or otherwise what their skin in the game is what the value proposition is in life. it is choice it's opportunity it's reward and possibly failure. shawn, stop trying to switch

labels to the blacks out there. tea party model of individualism of a limited effective and efficient government is a better opportunity for all americans. >> public policy shapes public behavior. all of us agree the welfare policies are what bankrupt our community. when you look it the 6070 percent of our children raised in marital households. 70 percent in single households. you look at immigration and what they are talking about a reform. public policy has them on the books public policy has minimum wage on the books. oo blacks have to work latinos don't. >> you are a great audience. we are going to take a break. when we come back final thoughts and advice for young people how they can get ahead regardless of race straight ahead. hey kevin...still eating chalk for heartburn?

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this is the pursuit of perfection. >> welcome back to this special edition of "hannity." not just black kids, white kids, hispanic kids. judge, advice for kids. >> get your education. it's the key to knowledge. >> parents force them. >> learn both sides. you need to argue both sides for yourself. >> i think school of choice is vital. it's one thing they shut down the dc voucher program. school of choice around the country we need it>> it is about prosperity, shawn. reject the notion you have to have a special standard in order to compete. we did it in oklahoma and showing it works.

>> you had a tough life growing up you pulled yourself up how? >> the lord saved me and open business. when you have a business you work whkeep what you worked for. >> always be where you are supposed to be. >> get home before midnight. >> i think show up. everyone wants conservatives to show up and other leaders to show up. we needs people in the community to show upkeep an open mind. >> it is essential to have judeo principals and every person should read the book of proverbs. >> my advice to young people don't let anybody tell you what you can't do have a goal and have a dream and do everything you can to achieve that dream but it starts with the basis of an education. >> it is important for young people to empower themselves that way they can be independent and not rely on any one. >> think for yourselves.

don't let people tell you what to think. >> i like that one. >> do the matt h in life. educate yourself look at all sides to earlier points. do the math come up with a plan for your life. >> you are going to give a lecture i can hear it. >> be the very best at whatever you do. >> angela? >> register to vote and when you vote know why you are voting for who you are voting for. >> all your getting get understanding. don't be afraid to fail all you have to do is keep getting back up. >> whenever someone is telling you to pay ascensittention to a issue like this the color of your skin question that, understand they are reflecting. they don't want to look at the real issues. >> the majority of children are living in poverty. you see your mom, you see her struggling is it enough? when they tell you we want to help you all you have to do is look at where you are right now

ask yourself and ask your mother. i am speaking as someone whose mom had a third grade education. what you have to do is you have to say, is this enough? >> get an education. >> chairman was in cleveland ohio asking balack businesses what do we need to do. for the young people i say walk across the street and ask a republican lumen tore me? >> they won't give it but if you ask they might. >> don't follow the herd and don't throw got away. >> we are dying we are killing ourselves. no one is doing this to us. we are doing this to ourselves. if we do not stop no democrat is

going to stop it no republican no liberal no conservative. we must stop killing ourselves. >> a big hand. that's all of the time we have left. we will see you back here soon. >> lemonade for sale. stossel lemonade. >> i can't give it to you i am going to get in trouble. >> six or seven black bands enough to scare the crap out of you. >> the police came after this grocery store. >> seemed like they thought we had cocaine in the papayas or something. >> most americans support law against prostitution. what if it were legal? if what if drugs were legal? one country tried