no liberal no conservative. we must stop killing ourselves. >> a big hand. that's all of the time we have left. we will see you back here soon. >> lemonade for sale. stossel lemonade. >> i can't give it to you i am going to get in trouble. >> six or seven black bands enough to scare the crap out of you. >> the police came after this grocery store. >> seemed like they thought we had cocaine in the papayas or something. >> most americans support law against prostitution. what if it were legal? if what if drugs were legal? one country tried that.

>> not in america politicians keep passing more rules. >> when are they going to find illegals tomorrow? >> you have no idea what you are up against. >> show me the man i will show you the crime. >> follow you around you find felonies that is a statement in america it is like everything is illegal. >> what is more american than opening a lemonade stand. >> would you like the lemonade? who is first? thank you very much. >> thank you so much. >> for years kids set up stands like this. but today watch out. the police may quest you. >> i was scared. we didn't know what was happening. we were selling lemonade in the yard. the third day the police decided to shut us down. >> her mom heard the police yelling. >> i could hear them from inside my house yelling at home girls you have to shut the lemonade

stand down. >> made me want to open my own stand here in fox's front yard. >> there's a cop over there. will the police bust me? >> there are so many vague laws everybody arguably could be caught up in this. >> the lawyer says american avalanche of new law. this is what the feds added last year. made criminals of just about all of them. >> any citizen could be shown to have violated some regulation of these and that is the danger to liberty. >> the police never told these girls where they were shut down. >> they stopped at city hall to try to find out the city official laughed at them said really they shut your limb nayed stand down. i would like to see what law i am breaking. she didn't know. >> the chief of police explained. >> we are not aware of who made the lemonade or what it was made with. we understand you are i don't

think but still we ayou are breg the law and can't let you do it any more. >> apple ton, wisconsin shut down this limb nayed stand. texas was stopped, too. >> they said you needed a permit to sell. >> they sold girl scout cookies from their own front yard. the city sent them a letter ordering them to stop. i looked at it i was like, what? come on. it's girl scouts. >> all of these people ran a foul of laws they didn't know exist hadded and still don't understand. >> they are people who aren't lawyers but people like me i am a lawyer. >> even the police don't understand. she said the cud's lemonade stand violated the law. >> in scott dale, arizona dr. read is accused of breaking the city's nuisance and property maintenance ordinance. his crime, the tree in his

backyard. it is the wrong kind. >> if you don't remove the tree you will be fined 2,000 a day. >> you bought the house partly because of this tree. >> it turned out this tree wasn't on the planning and development services department list of approved trees. there are a bunch of them in the area. >> i said you point this out to the authorities they said let us know who they are and we will site them as well. >> in california they were fined for holding bible studies in their home. >> need a conditional use permit cup to hold meetings. >> that is tricky. it has traffic studies and land studies. this tens of thousands of dollars. >> you have to ask them how many make this>> the planning department said more than three.

>> you have more than three kids. >> i have 5. >> famous people accused of breaking the law can fight prosecutors they can afford the expensive lawyers who often get them reduced sentences or acquittal. >> what if you are an ordinary businessman and you import these guys. watch out. you could go to jail foryears. >> we didn't see this. >> they imported seafood. >> i did the same thing for 13 years over and over. customs from fda bring the lobster tails in and sell them. nobody in the government had a problem with that until the day they walked up on the dock and said, don't off load your lobster sails. >> cut the shells off stop unloading put them back. >> we put them back and we were wondering what the heck happened. they didn't really know the answer.

>> you shouldn't murder and shouldn't steal. that's old fashioned. now the laws are much more technical. >> the government eventually said they broke four obscure regulations in the books on honduras. >> they had to be packaged in 40 pound boxes. we had them in plastic bags. >> everybody was using plastic bags. >> i started in 1986 and was always doing it the same way. >> even honduras said you got it wrong. didn't matter. >> 7:30 in the morning there are about 6 or 7 fbi or irs national marine fishery service customs. there are about 13 of them on my deck with guns. >> that was just the beginning. >> sentenced to? >> 28 years and one month. >> any trouble with the law before this?

>> the wos thing i had was a speeding ticket. >> he served 6 years in jail. >> what happened to your business? >> i went broke. >> and your family? >> they went broke also. my kids went back home with their mother and that's the story. >> i assume these attorneys general and states attorneys they are not evil people they are ambitious want to make a name for themselves but they don't want to hurt people who didn't really do nasty things. >> there are a lot of fanatics. other prosecutors notice eliot spitzer one high office by racking up impressive conviction records. >> all of these regulations they will comb the books and find something. >> this can happen to you. they can take any law they think you broke and take you to trial.

whether you win or lose you lose. by the time you are done fighting it you are broke. >> i heard they spent 5 million. >> the amount of money it takes. >> how much money does it take? >> i have had clients spend $10 million. >> i cannot image how much money they spend prosecuting my husband. >> they tried her husband jack and lost but instead of apologizing for getting it wrong they threatened to finances 37,000 dollars a day. what terrible crime did the government say they committed? trying to build a house on their property. >> the county gave you permission to build? >> they inspected the foundation and approved it. >> you started to build? >> uh-huh. >> a government owned drainage ditch was clogged with logs.

they told my husband we are backed up 6 months if you can clean the ditch go ahead and do it. so he used his backhoe removed huge logs out of this ditch. the water poured off the land and we were sited a felony for cleaning the ditch. >> what? >> a tell knee charge. it gave the property appearance of a wetland. the state property pled yoflood property and they say it's a wetland. >> he is digging a well. he had to go deep down. he wasn't finding water. >> he was down about 89 feet. >> a jury cleared jack of all charges. >> after we were home for a month maybe the army corps of engineers and epa sent us another letter saying how nice for you that you won in the

criminal court but we still feel it's a wetland. the decision made by the jury didn't matter to them. if you didn't get off the property we are going to fine you. 37,500 a day. >> they had to sell their home. now they live in a modified trailer. >> this has already almost taken everything you have. >> well, yeah. i wouldn't live like that. >> their life savings? >> we will be bankrupt obviously. you have no idea what you are up against you don't know the power that is the epa. >> they have all of the time and resources in the world. they have an unlimited budget. >> they come in and ruin your lives. >> the government by the people

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america. >> the information department directed me to this web site. this was supposed to make licensing easy. >> i need an ien assistance. employee identification number. the government said i had to take a 15 hour food protection class to sell lemonade? >> bicycle. i don't have bicycles. >> after this exam i have to take weeks to find out if i passed. after that i had to use a fire extinguisher. to do this legally would take months. >> forget it. >> so i did this without a permit. lawyer gave me the okay if i didn't actually sell anything. i had to give everyone refunds and get the lemonade back. >> wait a second. i shouldn't have sold it to you. i have to give it back.

>> my customers thought this was crazy. >> many once had their own lemonade stand. >> do you have to get your license to open the stand? oo i am from canada you didn't need a license for a lemonade stand. >> i can't let you drink this. >> there are so many rules i am not allowed to sell this to you. i've to give you your money back. >> i didn't have time to get all of the permits. >> you didn't do anything in pakistan. you didn't need permits in there. >> that's how it used to be in the united states. it was once easy to start a business here. >> back in the 1920s you take a poor illiterate irish man or italian he buys a used car tain paints the word taxi on it he's in business for himself. >> the documentary showed he got a start buy ago cab. >> today he couldn't unless he was a millionaire.

>> politicians wire every taxi driver to buy one of these medallions. no medallions you are not legal. >> they cost a million dollars. >> very expensive. >> so expensive only big temperatures can-- companies ca afford them. >> it is because of the medallion i can't drive my own car. >> the purpose is to keep outsiders out. >> it is a safe orderly marketplace. >> the purpose of the licensing is to keep outsiders out so they can charge us higher prices. >> one of the few remaining places where it is easy to be a taxi driver is dc. >> it's tnow this lobbiest want to end that freedom. >> you have to regulate. >> he wants to bring the medallion rule to washington, d.c. he wrote a bill to cut the

number of taxis allowed. >> througere is too many taxi c. >> these dc drivers don't think so. >> kill the medallion bill. >> they like being allowed but the lobbyists convinced dc councilmen to sponsor his bill. >> we want to professionalize our taxi cab system. >> professionalize the system what does that mean? >> we want to make sure the customer has a good riding experience. >> that sounds good but regulations already in the book subject every driver to petty harassment. >> this is unacceptable right here. >> still at least in washington the open entry rule allows newcomers to enter the business. >> washington, d.c. is the only major city in america that allows an open entry. >> isn't that good for poor people? >> no, it is not good. a medallion system is what is

needed. >> that squeezes newcomers out. >> newcomers should be squeezed out. >> why? >> because this is a regulated industry. >> how much do you get paid to lobby for them? >> i get paid by the hour. my rate per hour is $775. >> this man, he is about money. i can't blame him. but don't hustle me. >> i am told you are paid by the taxi king jerry schafer. he is using you to squeeze the competition out. >> i am being paid not by the taxi cab but by -- >> a bunch of taxi cabs kings, queens and jacks keeping the little guys out. >> buy jackson and poor folks. >> poor folks really pay lobbyists. if he gets these regulations poor people won't become taxi entrepreneurs. >> only a few are going to be able to afford it. >> washington has been sort of an open place for taxis being able to become a taxi driver.

that's good. >> we love it. >> why monkey with good? >> when folks have ideas about different legislation our job is to implement it. >> you have only been here 4 years how many laws have you gotten passed? >> nanny. we were very active here in my office legislatively. >> you ever repeal any? >> no. i don't think many have been repealed. >> passing new laws adds to the power of the competition. but it makes it much harder to be an entrepreneur. >> told me to get out of here.

>> who decides what you eat? you?

no. some towns ban meat. my town's mayor wants to limit the salt i can eat. if you sell certain things the food police disapprove of you better watch out. >> there was a loud banging. >> we have a warrant. >> not long ago they raided a food co-op in los angeles. >> why are you drawing guns? >> seemed like they thought we had cocaine in the papayas or something. >> they went into our frnlg rate tore and took cgallons and cheeses whatever they wanted. >> they raided sharon's home. >> they came and ripped my house apart they took me down to the county jail, booked me

photographed me like a criminal. >> the owners were charged with a felony. >> all because raw milk can be down right dangerous. >> unpasteurized means the mill can hasn't been heated to kill the bacteria like salmonella that can give you stomach aches or kill you. >> ramakers say this. it's pure and healthy and makes me feel good. >> oh, please. ridiculous. don't free people have the right to be ridiculous? >> this is america. how do you tell me why i shouldn't trim meat. >> i also eat chicken. the cdc says because people don't walk wash chicken properly it causes many deaths. >> when the government gets p n between my lips and throat>> why

do you want to drink raw milk? because i want to. it is healthier i drunk it all of my life sometimes legally sometimes illegally. >> most ban raw milk. just like they ban lemonade stands. if no one drinks it, and i don't make any money, then this is probably legal. >> it is silly. >> that indicates this whole societal prejudice against terrible business people nany oe in business is a cheater a villain. >> more than that drowned in backyard swimming pools. we should fill in all of the backyard swimming pools now. >> life is risky. you can die from it. ultimately we should be able to charge our risk. i think drinking mountain due is

risky. i am not asking a government to tell you you can't do it. >> for 30 years they farmed 500 acres in virginia. >> hey, turkeys. >> he has seen government pass more and more rules. >> eerie day i look over my shoulder what are they going find illegal tomorrow. >> he would like to slaughter his own animals to sell to his neighbors. law milk is only legal if he doesn't make money. >> you can go into the woods and shoot a deer put it on a blazer take it around town in the afternoon sun for a couple hours take it home string it up skin it out cut it up and feed it to your children that's being a great american. if i take one lamb orchid and have a community killing like i used to do one neighbor pays me a penny i am a criminal. >> it is logical to think we need government to protect us. >> if that is what you think

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watch men don't want to be watched. in jones county mississippi the highway patrol say stop your rv. the activists like to videotape counters with authority. >> yes, sir. >> turn the camera off, please. >> how come? >> are you filming me? >> yes. >> he had broken mow traffic laws but maybe they were suspicious of shirtless tattoo pete with new hampshire plates. he filmed it and said i would like to keep everybody accountable. >> the officers didn't like that. >> turn it off. >> i am not shutting it off. >> you are going to jail. >> excuse me? >> the cops grabbed his camera and arrested him and his friends. >> they held us in jail. >> after about 12-hours the police let him go. >> they charged me with

possession of a beer because there was one unopened beer in the refrigerator. >> they couldn't charge him with filming the police because that's legal. that's a good thing. a oo just outside my office cops claim a bicyclist road into him on purpose. this video turned up and showed the officer was the aggressor. >> that cop was eventually fired. >> maybe video like this is why some don't want to be filmed. >> you see something? >> this is my friend i am just recording thwhat you are doing. it's my right. >> this is my yard. >> in rochester new york when emily heard police in her yard she went to film the encounter. one officer didn't like that. >> we are doing a traffic stop. >> i am allowed to stand in my yard. >> stand in your house. >> i am allowed to stand in my house. >> i was in cotton pajamas you

could tell i was holding nothing. i don't think there's any reason to feel threatened. >> i am wearing pajamas. i am observe whatting they are doing and they are arresting me. >> the officer took her to jail and charged her with obstructing government tal regulation. >> i think the young police officer is high on his power. >> high on his power is a little harsh am he's doing his job. >> it is not his job to take observer vs. their own property and put them in jail. >> a month later she put it on-line some viewers criticized the police. >> you posted it on youtube and they come back. >> in uniform four officers. >> police showed up outside of a meeting and started writing

tickets for parking violations like parking further than 12 inches from the curb. >> can i see it. can i see the ruler? >> her friend taped that. >> okay that's 12 inches from the curb. >> after the media picked up on the story the police chief says his officer's actions were inappropriate. charges against emily were dropped but no officer was ever punished. they never are as far as we know. >> even when they arrest news cameras. >> go away now. >> bill tried to film a police pursuit. >> they are going away. >> i am going away. >> because it's an active scene and you are leaving. go away. no. >> he went away. he moved across the street then the officer drove up to him there. >> they told me to go back. >> put it down. put it down. put it down. >> they charged him with

obstructing the government. >> did you obstruct the government? >> no. at the point i was arrested i was 1,000 feet away from the officers. >> the charges were dropped but the officer wasn't punished. none of the officers who talk to us but the head of a police unit gave us this comment. >> i am afraid something terrible will happen. >> if the officers are doing the right thing the video is going to show that. >> this hijacker rammed a cop car. >> the officer shot the hijacker killed him and was exonerated of murder because this video showed he acted in self defense. >> are you recording me right now? some officers understand it's part of the job to be kille -- job to be filmed. >> should look good on youtube. >> let's give three cheers for

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that was the point. >> everyone laughed. the same politicians oversee a system that does this. >> drug raids like this one happen in america more than 100 times eerie day. >> kneel franklin led such raids. >> you felt good about it? >> yes. we really thought these drugs made people evil. >> drugs can be and more problematic. >> the policies we have in place to prohibit the use are ten times more problematic. >> on this raid swat teams broke into this family's house shot their dog.

once inside they didn't find any drugs. the owner was discharged with possessing drug pair fan nail yaw. >> you don't end up with dogs being shot. you end up with kids being shot. search warrants being kill done. >> the advisor under president bush and clinton. >> they are not kicking the door if someone is smoking a don't be bee on their couch. they are kicking the door of somebody with a violent history who is known to be dangerous. >> because that accident happened doesn't mean you do away with it. >> it didn't stop drug use but created violence. >> takens of thousands of people are dying. >> not because they get high on drugs but because when something

is illegal it is sold on the black market. they can't call the cops so they arm themselves>> they have the violence of gangs competing with market share and people get hurt. >> especially gangs. >> they have a fortune 500 country they know how to recruit kids. >> they demonstrate how they recruit kids. >> look what i got on my feet run over to foot locker when you get them come back and show me. takes them back looking good. man. wouldn't you like to buy a pair of them every week? you can have them. >> few days later the dealer sees the kid again you dising me or what man? you know you owed me. >> you offered me sneakers.

oh you got 120 bucks. you hold this for me. that's all you got to do for me. i have got you. >> if drugs were legal people assume there would be more of that. >> you don't understand. it is the policy of prohibition that causes that. >> jack daniels is sold by businesses and well lit places. there is no violence here because it is legal. >> it ended the 90 years of alcohol pro might be biggs. >> thomas r advice and corruption. >> we created org niedzed crime. >> organized crime existed well before prohibition. >> but much less of it.

here is the murder rate years ago. >> if we were to do away with drug laws and legitimize narcotic use in this country by saying let adults do what they do we know statistically drug usage numbers are going to sky rocket. >> we don't know that. people think we are not for drug laws drug abuse would be rampa t rampant. the number of abusers have not sky rocketed. >> portugal talk about as a success is a blatant failure. >> we have a huge problem with drug use. >> we have 100,000 people hooked on heroin. >> junkies set up tents instead of doing what we did they tried something different.

they de criminalized every drug, crack, heroin, you name it. >> legalized it. we have the most legalized in the world. >> it was treated like a parking ticket than a crime people caught with drugs like this man found with hash get a slap on the wrist. sometimes it is fine. they took heroin can crack. this woman served in portugal's home. >> they took more responsible attitude toward the drug. >> despite that freedom independent studies found the number of people who say they are regularly do drugs stayed about the same. >> the numbers of addictions increased. >> we saw this woman smoking a joint near a police office. we saw more public drinking than

drug abuse. drugs are down and drug crimes are down. at first the police inspector had doubts about the law but it works. >> it is not the end result. >> teen drug use is down. >> it brought some to this debate. >> in america the drug war rages on. >> coming up another war against prostitution. >> would don't sell access to itself. human beings are no different no better than. >> these workers say what is she talking about. >> i choose to do this. this is what i want to do. the verizon share everything plan for small busines

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>> john: in these piles of laws >> in these piles of laws there is one law you agree with the ban on prostitution. in america sex is okay money is okay but sex for money that is forbidden. >> 7 women arrested and charged with soliciting prostitution. >> the women hide their faces. >> tv rochers treat prostitution like no other crime. >> they set up a sting in a center city hotel. cops posing as johns lure five women to the high rise hotel even using the yellow pages. even using the yellow pages. think about that. it wasn't at all difficult for the police to discover the law breakers. che the yellow pages in my town have 15 pages of escort service. sex work is common. police ignore 90 percent of it.

when they make busts the implication is that the police saved the prostitute. jail may be the safest place the hookers have ever been. >> real anily? i doubt that. >> there is little in nevada for example. >> here it is safe. we have a problem the sheriff comes. >> sex work is like any other sales job. >> we are entrepreneurs just like any other business. >> she works at the bunny ranch one of 28 legal brothels in america. this is her boss. >> you are a pimp. >> i am not a pimp. i have a license to do this. >> you are a licensed pimp. >> 500 women choose to rent out their bodies. >> you claim you are having fun? >> oh, yeah. >> being bought, sold.

>> we are not kicking and screaming when the transactions happen. >> don't you feel de meaned? >> not at all. >> the new york state department called the act for sex for money inherently demeaning. >> sex is supposed to be spontaneous. >> according to whom? don't you model for money? it's the same thing. sex is different. sex is more intimate. >> you are still showing your body or exploiting yourself. >> i choose to do this. this is what i want to do. >> i assume you have no other option as soon as>> before i did this i had a nice paying job. >> why do you do this? >> i want to. >> these girls can go on dates and give up sex it's fine but if a guy leaves $100 bill on the dresser there's something wrong with that? >> interesting question. >> it's not that complicated to

appreciate why we don't want to realize prostitutioprostitution. >> i went to former prosecutor linda murphy. she locks them up. >> it creates the idea that human beings are no better than stuff. slavery is against the constitution. >> slavery is involuntary. >> it is goes to slavery. it is inconsistent with everything we know to subject humans to market forces. >> humans are subjected to market forces all of the time. have you ever seen a professional sports draft or boxing match? they can beat their brains out for money why not have sex for

money? >> the guy doesn't love stocking toilet paper. >> he drshe dropped out of a prestigious college because she wanted to do sex work. >> if i don't like somebody i don't have to be with them. opposite of slavery. >> nevada has it right. they have lots of disease lots of robberies 2 million for property thefts reported last year. row hib biggs does not work. if you want disease and money going to criminals keep it illegal. >> by keeping this illegal you kill people. oo people don't get aids tests. they are afraid to report crimes to police. in nevada where it is legal there is no crime. >> you can't engage in prostitution. >> they engage anyway even when it is illegal just under ground. >> people rob banks, too.

>> stealing money from people. this is consensual. >> people will want to do peoths that do harm to them. >> i wish you could talk to the ladys in the bunny ranch. >> i would say i wish i could save you. >> you guys are beautiful. >> now they came forward to join the conversation. >> they work in a legal place. they say it's great. >> we like it. it's your own choice. if you want to do it you can do it if you don't like it leave. >> i am happy that you are happy that's terrific. the fact that you are having a good time is not an excuse to ignore the harm. >> i am nothing but happy. >> i believe the majority of prostituted women suffer harm that is so serious i would compromise your freedom to protect the majority of women. >> you want to tell everybody in

the world what they can and cannot do with their own bodies? >> i would like to live in a world where people didn't hurt of each other. you should be ashamed of yourself. >> the time has come to outlaw prostitution. >> america is nowhere close to accepting what you do because it's sex. >> relax. it's just sex, america. >> even if you support the law do we need all of these laws? so many no one understands them? so many you can't help the law? let's get rid of some of these laws. that's our show for tonight. get rid of laws. good night. [ male announcer ] erica had a rough day.

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