building. thank you for being us with. all the time left this eek. as always, thanks for being with us. let not your heart be troubled. greta next to go on the record. we'll see balk here tomorrow morning. tonight, trayvon martin's friend says she heard this. >> kin of heard trayvon saying, get off, get off. >> then what did you hear? >> suddenly the phone hung up. shut off. >> a live report from the florida measure trial, but, first, absolutely staggering news. another irs official plead the fifth. >> the committee will come to order. >> our report, we believe shows a cozy relationship between strong castle's president and the irs deputy director for information technology acquisitions, gregg roseman, and it's the heart ofhis issue.

mr. roseman, when did you first become aware of a company known as strong castle, inc. >> on the advice of council i respectfully decline to answer questions and invoke my fifth amendment right to remain silent. >> are you employed by the irs? >> mr. chairman, on the advice of counsel i respectfully decline to answer questions and invoke my fifth amendment right to remain silent. >> are you prepared to answer any questions involving this situation? >> mr. chair, no. >> strong castle has not sought or received unfair advantage in pursuit of other government contract. >> michael jackson had that song, man in the mirror. you need to look in the mirror. >> you find out there is targeting of political groups six months before the

presidential election. what was your reaction? >> at that point in time, irs waits for tigda to complete the information. >> they put tea party groups in the list and never given tax exempt status they sought. you learned that may 30, 2012, and your reaction was we'll see what tigda comes up with? >> no, sir. >> do you believe targeting conservative groups is wrong? a yes or no. do you agree it was wrong? can someone in the irs admit this was wrong? >> this is about irs mismanagement. the agency's refusal about what it has done. >> griff jenkins demanding more

answers from beth tucker. >> ms. tucker, quick question. you said had you been at the irs 29 years. >> she's not going to answer any questions. >> i'm asking her a question. how can the american people still trust the irs with everything that is known, from the sweetheart deals we heard about to today, to the credit card abuse, targeting of conservatives, as an employee of 30 years, how can the american people still trust the irs. >> the american people should vus trust the irs because we're comprised of roughly 100,000 civil servants that do their best every day for this country. that said, there are some mistakes that have been made, and as you've heard our acting commissioner say, irs is taking steps to get to the bottom of some of the problems we're seeing right now that i think it is critical for the american public to know that we take our mission very seriously.

thank you very much. >> one followup, mr. roseman, who plead the fifth, can you tell us will he keep his job? >> oversight committee members satisfied with the answers they got today from the irs? jim jordan joins us. nice to see you, sir. >> good to be with you, greta. >> beth tucker, number three deputy commissioner, says they all do their best, and i assume she means she was doing her best too. however, in may 2012, she knew about the targeting, and she just sat there and did zero. >> in the meeting when the inspector general informed her, steve miller and doug shulman, the same guy went to the white house 157 times when the targeting was taking place. mr. shulman is gone, mr. miller is fired. she was the top-ranking official that was there when this was happening. didn't feel it was incumbent to set the record straight, even though her boss had testified two months prior to congress and

said he could give us assurances no targeting going on. every time you pull on a string with this deal, it just unravels more and more from sweetheart deals to the second person taking the fifth to conferences where extravagant spending of taxpayer dollars takes place and on and on it goes, and we'll keep pursuing this. it takes time to get to the truth. you have to interview a lot of people. we're just getting started. >> is it time for a special prosecutor? this has been going on for years, these problems at the irs, with all due respect to congress, a lot of this going on for years, didn't get uncovered. time for a special prosecutor with subpoena power and the power to present to a fwrgrand jury. >> maybe down the road. we have interviewed 11 people, when we interview someone, we

find out somebody else. >> what more notice do you need there is a real serious problem. turn it over to a special prosecutor, someone who will do something about this? >> particularly in light of the fbi's response. just a week and a half ago, i asked the director of the fbi, who is heading up the investigation? you would think something of this magnitude. know. he didn't know how many people on the case. something of this concern to the united states, you would put your best lawyer, best investigative team. >> how about just anybody? >> he couldn't tell me, which underscores the lack of focus and priority that this must have at the fbi. what scares me more about this than anything else. the same fbi visited tea party people last year and the year before when they were applying for the tax exempt status. that's an irs question. what's the fbi doing showing up at people's door, applying for

tax exempt status. when in america did you get a friendly visit from the local fbi agent when you were simply saying i want to apply for tax exempt status. chilling and scary as it gets. >> that proves my point more. time for a special prosecutor. the attorney general, boss of the fbi, apparently look wheat happening, nothing. time for someone who has serious purpose and ability to go to grand jury? >> on the committee, may come to that. but our committee is plowing through this. learning more and more each day. good staff, members on the committee focused on this. and we're committed to getting to the truth. may come a point where this is -- we do need a special prosecutor. the goal of the truth. takes time to get there. we're plowing through it. >> congressman, i wish you the best of luck. the stories are absolutely on and on and on. >> thank you. >> thank you, sir. first they found out the irs wasted your money on line dancing, but news that credit

cards were used to buy wine, romance novels, baby clothes, and in some instances pornography. more news, but frankly you won't like it. the irs threw a 2$2.4 million party complete with open bar, gourmet food, and indicate everied by wolfgang puck and a video of irs workers dressed as olympic athletes and you paid for it all. bob, when i read your article, i got madder, madder, madder, madder. >> three-day conference, so $800,000 a day. three days, and $800,000. open bar as you mentioned, and a video i haven't seen the video. described to me. but dressed up as irs employees, a lot of frustrated filmmakers as olympic athletes and makeshift torches and athletic gear on, olympic theme, based on the olympics in '96.

>> insane. this is put on by the officer of the chief counsel. those are the lawyers. we have a code of professional responsibility. and client, client is the american people, about keeping ethics and respect to them. the video called a unity video. the lawyers said what in the video is a unity video for lawyers. >> first time that all of the lawyers around the country got together. unity video called one office. and went over apparently pretty big back then. the irs told me they shouldn't have done this if you add up anaheim conference, greta, plus this one, $6.5 million for two irs conferences. >> more insanity. the lawyers got continuing legal education requirements, requirements that they have to have in order to satisfy their home bars, whatever it is we paid for them to get their continuing legal education credits. what did they get it for? wolfgang puck dinners?

you eat well? i mean, it's so absurd. >> so people said the conferences were okay, that they learned a lot. >> what? >> the effective use of e-mail. >> oh, for god sakes. that's what they used. effective use of e-mail. i would like the e-mail to see what she said about the conferences. what other things did they learn? >> technical legal things. >> like what? do you remember? >> working with other people in the office, that kin of thing. >> that's insane. we, the american people learned to pay for the lawyers to work with others in the office. we paid $2.4 million for this? >> the urs says they have cut down on expenses, but we've heard that before. >> but, see, that's the horrible thing. we have new guidelines. why do you need guidelines to know that's wrong? are they that inept or immoral to know they shouldn't have catered dinners by celebrity

chefs. >> they went too far. clearly they can get together and have a conference, they have to be reasonable and not have open bars and that sort of thing. >> so many empty federal buildings in this city. doesn't cost a dime. get a bunch of folding chairs, a podium, and mike, and we can get some hot dogs over from the national stadium sent over. >> i can tell are you upset. >> i encourage people to read your article in "the hill" it's outstanding. danny werfel responding to credit card abuse. in a statement, he said we are following up on several inappropriate incidents mentioned in the report, ranging from internal actions to criminal charges, that said, more than 99.75% of the irs purchases adhered to the rules. michele bachmann joins us, former tax lawyer i might add. didn't work for the irs, did you? >> i did.

i did. >> you know the inside scoop. >> the scandal came out on $2.4 million on a lavish conference. a conference i went to was in florida, in august, scinder blok buildings, no air conditioning. my how times have changed. back in the late '80s and early '90s. a very different culture over there now. >> i think this is stealing from the american people. i mean, it's harsh. but what gives them the right to take this money? most americans struggling to put food on the table. they are getting continuing legal education, these are the lawyers. >> and employees taking a government credit card and they know what they are doing, putting purchases on a government credit card for wine, pornography? anybody knows that's wrong. that's why, yes, we are in the realm of criminal. these are the enforcers of the

law who are breaking the law. they are the ones who hold you liable and me liable, and a lot of your viewers may not realize that, but the legal standard for the irs is that we are considered guilty until we prove ourselves innocent. completely different than any other area of the law. when it comes to the irs, the taxpayer is guilty until they prove themselves innocent. that's stunning. >> and if you have a dispute of the irs, you must pay the money to the irs. >> and then litigate. >> and then you hope if you win that the irs will give you the money back that you -- that they wrongfully took from you. >> that's right. and when the irs issues a statutory notice of deficiency, that letter in the mail has penalties on it, interest on it, and goes back to the year of the problem. so it isn't just the tax you owe. it's penalties, interest, and an

enormous amount of money, and remember, you are guilty until you prove yourself innocent. >> the number that he said, werfel claims 99.75% of the spending adhered to the rules. couple of things, they create the rules so it will adhere the rule. and they investigate themselves because the justice department is sitting on its hands and thirdly, why they need rules to know any of this behavior is deplorable is beyond me. even the 99.75%, all of the people who work at the irs, including the woman who testified today, tucker, the ones who know about it, in position of management and supervisory, do nothing, zero. look the other way. >> imagine as you of a taxpayer got the statutory notice, and 99.75% of what you did on the

tax return was right, and you had the .3%. the irs wouldn't be looking the other way and the american people won't look the other way with the irs this is a culture. culture of corruption, now there is a culture, apparently a permissible culture. >> time for a special prosecutor who can go to a grand jury, present evidence. capitol hill looking at it. a lot of this stuff happened during the oversight period, wasn't particularly effective oversight and the justice department has done nothing. time for special prosecutor. >> time for the ufrp rs to be accountab accountable. >> do you trust eric holder to do this? >> no one trusts eric holder. i have cold for his resignation. i want to underscore how frightening it is when we can't trust our own attorney general that we have to look to a special prosecutor. >> so special prosecutor? >> this is a frightening time?

>> special prosecutor? >> it could be. but the special prosecutor also comes through the executive. so it doesn't -- the problem is, greta, we're in a profoundly different world right now, we have very low level of trust with this government at the same time we are expanding in a breath taking way the area of jurisdiction of the irs. something very bold needs to be done. abolish it, start over. >> we hold people accountable. >> 100%, total agreement. >> nice to see you. >> tonight's hot button issue on gretawire.com. do you believe that 99.75% of irs credit card purchases adhere to the rules? yes or no? go and vote in our poll. >> stunning you in information about an nfl star charged with

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an nfl star charged with murder. aaron hernandez, former patriot tight end, arrested and charged with murdering semi pro football player odin lloyd. mistaking hernandez from his massachusetts home, handcuffed behind his back and arms inside his t-shirt. her man des appearing before a judge. >> possession of a firearm, and possession of a large-capacity firearm and possession of a firearm without an fid. and possession of a firearm without any fid card. >> he brought up that he was mad about the argument.

he trove him to a remote spot and orchestrated the execution. >> ben buller joins us with the latest. what else did the prosecution say? >> the prosecutor said a lot today. unveiled all the facts of investigation, hadn't been sealed by court order, and in a lengthy 30-minute agreement, detail the evidence. the .45 caliber bullets in the industrial park. and the video surveillance has a six to eight-hour time period missing. and video surveillance of him entering the industrial park. they don't have a smoking gun and a witness just yet. but right now, seems like there are a lot of goods on aaron

hernandez. charged him with first degree murder and possession of unlanced firearm. >> the first i heard about the arrest was on my twitter feed. boston globe tweet i think it was. one of the things i learned earlier, the new england patriots had released him. did they know about it before the arrest? was it coincidental? >> even though the top members of the organization, robert kraft and bill belichick, out of the country on vacation right now, they decided if aaron was arrested at all in connection with the investigation, even for something relatively minor, like obstruction of justice, they would release him, part ways for him. they were very quiet for nine days as the police did investigation. 90 minutes after he was led away in handcuffs, the patriots released him. it was a shocking move. they didn't have to do that,

they could have waited for roger godel to suspend him. it could have got help with the salary cap. they didn't care what the cost would be. wanted to wash their hands clean of aaron hernandez. a star tight end player, they just signed to a $40 million contract just last year, and they want to move on without him. >> a different reaction to art model a few years ago when baltimore rave knows star got picked up and charged in a murder case a few years the new england franchise, just immediately cut him loose. >> no question. i thought for sure they would show some pruns in this, let the case unfold. we hear that all the time when athletes get in trouble. even michael vick, charged with fairly heinous dog fighting crimes, and the falcons stuck by him, not as a show of support, but as a way to kind of recoup

their money and go through the motions that the cda and nfl allows them to recover their salary cap. very shocking to see the patriots decide to move on. a player charged with first degree murder. heinous crime. >> right up there at the top. anyway, looks -- you know, got a lot of trouble ahead of him. ben, hate to cut you off. got to go. thank you. >> thank you very much. coming up, chilling testimony in the george zimmerman murder trial. the jury hears from a friend of trayvon martin, on the phone with him moments before he was shot. latest from the courtroom and legal panel is here, that's next and if you are saving up for summer vacation, better save a little extra. ♪ ♪ ♪

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>> he was saying get off. get off. >> then what did you hear? >> then, suddenly, the phone hung up. >> okay. when the phone shut off, what happened next? >> i had called him back. >> you called trayvon martin back? >> yeah, yeah. >> were you able to talk to him again? >> no, no. >> did he, trayvon martin, ever call you back? >> no. >> did you ever talk to trayvon martin again? >> no. >> holly bristol was in the courtroom. she is live with the latest. different from the courtroom. so tell us, we have been watching on tv. tell us what it was like? >> reporter: it was pretty intense what that juror took the stand. she could be the star witness for prosecutors.

but she may now have a credibility issue with the jurors. she started out very strong, talking about how she was talking to trayvon martin throughout that day. he's he called her on the way home from the 7-eleven. when he was walking through his dad's, girlfriend's neighborhood, he noticed a strange man watching him and the man's following him. he's givinger the blow by blow. he takes a run for it. he's losing the guy. he's close tort condo and next thing you know, the guy's back in his face. he tries to run. they lose contact on the phone. the girl calls back. he said, okay, coast is clear. and next thing you know, according thoher, trayvon says, why are you following me and george zimmerman says -- according to this witness -- what are you doing around here? and he says, next thing you know, she hears a noise, she presumes it's his phone falling and she hears a scuffle in the grass and she hearsay get off me, get off me.

and the phone goes dadr dead. she started crying at one point and she seemed very credible. and the defense started to ask her about discrepancies and things they had heard from her. she had been asked questions by trayvon martin's attorney and she said she was 16 years old when she was in actuality, she was 18. she didn't go to the wake because she was at the hospital. turns out, she didn't go to the trayvon martin wake because she didn't want to see his dead body. understandable, but not exactly the truth. on the stand today, she said something different from what she had said in a disposition when asked if she heard the 911 call made by a neighbor where you can hear somebody screaming in the background and a gunshot. she said, yes, she had heard it. prosecutors asked her who it was, she said, trayvon martin and didn't flinch. the defense said, that's not what you said in your disposition. she said his voice sounded little boyish, sometimes soft

and that she felt in that 911 call that it could have been trayvon martin. definitely tripped her up in some technicalities. she seemed to get very impatient when the defense started to ask her questions. she was looking through notes and rolling her eyes. when they asked her to look at a transcript, she said, i will get through these real quick because i want to get out of here tonight. when they said she was going thohave to come back tomorrow, she really popped an attitude. >> thank you. we will be ready for the next day. tomorrow's another day. zimmerman's defense lawyer, don west, taking heat at the start of the trial. why? he told a joke in his opening statement? >> knock, knock. who's there? george zimmerman. george zimmerman, who? all right. good. you're on the jury. nothing? that's funny. after what you folks have been

through the last two or three weeks -- no more bad jokes, i promise that. i am convinced it was the delivery, though. i really thought that was funny. i am sorry fioffended anyone. >> our legal panel is here. first, diana, i mean, this is the first -- this is a murder trial. i guess, i mean, when a lawyer says isn't evidence. but, boy, you know, what a dumb way to start off and get off on the wrong foot. don't you agree with me? >> i do agree with you, greta. i am really sad that i agree with you because i know don west. i have worked with him, i adore him. he's a fantastic lawyer. i don't have any explanation other than it was really miscalculated and it fell flatter than flat. i wish it hadn't happened. >> he's lucky because trials are very long and the jury no doubt will forget t. like i said, it is not evidence. bernie, the star witness -- people are now saying she has

credibility problems because she said she was 16, 18. not going to the wake, saying she was at the hospital and instead, she didn't want to see a dead body. i thought -- every witness comes with problems am i didn't think that was so damning to her credibility. >> i mean, every witness will get knocked around, if that's the first government witness, we attack her, but they're insigcant. contemporaneous with what she -- with what she was talking to trayvon martin and zimmerman was seeing. so it's supported by the 911 calls. she didn't go to the funeral and the other inconsistency that doesn't win the day. >> and as a star witness, she said that trayvon said he was being followed and the guy was in his face. that's potent for the prosecution. but i have had worst star witnesses against my client. >> i think she did very well on the stand. i think there may be some kind of a quote/unquote cultural divide with her because of the manner in which she talks.

but i think -- >> she was obnoxious, that's the way she talks. >> but she's 19 years of age. she's never been in trial from what we understand. but she was able to give a play by play, where all of a sudden, trayvon says this -- this cracker -- and that was one of the words used -- is following me and he used another profanity. but we know that zimmerman used profanity. but this is the key. she is not the star witness. the star witness is zimmerman. if he don't take the stand, i don't think they will be able to win. >> i wouldn't put zimmerman or any evidence on. i would try against the prosecution. i would not want zimmerman on the stand. diana, in terms -- is this their, quote star witness? she didn't see the shooting. she saw a motive for a fight. but who was the aggressor and who was not? is there a star witness for that?

>> i totally agree with you. they sold-- the state sold this witness as their star witness. she didn't just get impeached a little bit. she bombed like -- she bottomed worse than a knock-knock joke. she was shown to be bias and the most disrespectful -- this is not a cultural divide. she was the most disrespectful, combative, bizarre witness in 20 years i have seen on the stand. she was outrageous. -- >> i can't -- i take it -- i accept what you say, you practice and you know -- but we have been beaten up so badly with our clients, we don't feel the same. that one looked good with some of the ones we have had. >> yeah. >> oh, no, it was bad. it was bad. >> relative to me, i had a six-month case where every day there was a star witness. >> i have to go. i am going to have all of you back because this is going to go on for sometime. a nanny cam captures a violent

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>> the "star ledger" reporter, victoria st. martin. did they catch the guy yet? >> they have not caught hip. people are still looking for him. him. >> surveillance video so people can see what he looks like and hopefully they will catch him. >> is it -- did they break and entering? this was broad daylight, right? >> yes. 10:26 a.m. in the morning. friday morning, watching cartoons with her 3-year-old daughter and hear a bang, a crash, and he entered the home. there were several times -- he went upstairs three times during the video, and each time coming back down to punch her, to kick

her, to pull her hair, the final time that he came downstairs, he threw her down the basement stairs. >> did he know her name or say anything to indicate that he knew her, had been watching her or had any sort of reference to her at all? >> no, a shg, police have not id that at all. they are searching for leedleed they are confident they will find him. small, suburban town, very affluent. nothing like this has happened before. they have upped the reward foining him to $20,000. >> and i imagine that your paper and others are showing that video over and over. thank you so much. >> thank you, greta. a pair of landmark supreme court cases. doma struck down, blocking federal recognition of gay marriage in state where it's

legal and in another ruling, the high court clearing the way for gay marriage to resume in california. >> the supreme court, two very important decisions, did not make any sweeping pronouncement on merits itself. if you are legally married in your particular state, recognized as legal there, the federal government cannot deny you federal benefits. didn't go to the heart of saying same-sex marriage should be legal in all state. relatively narrow rulings with respect to broader impact on that particular issue. >> if you work in a state where they recognize gay meaning aarr you get transferred to another state where it doesn't recognize it, you will still get benefits? >> federal benefits, yes. the section 3 was the section at issue. section 2 was not being

challenged and that talks about whether states have to recognize other states' recognition of legal marriage. you were in new york where u.s. legal, and you move to texas, where it's not. you should we able to argue you get federal benefits. >> in the immigration bill they are arguing about, a clause for gay couples if your spouse was from another country and that was taken out and a lot of people are very upset with democrats for taking that out. senator leahy took it out. does that go away? >> it will spark a whole new conversation. the president and attorney general will look at all these potential areas of impact your honor federal law. tax law, immigration law and coming through those to see what the impact will ultimately be. and the defense department will start looking at how this will affect benefits of same-sex couples in the military. the administration says they will go out, look as closely as

they can, including on immigration issues to see how this decision could impact that. >> 5-4? >> 5-4 on both of these. and the prop 8 case out of california, didn't decide on the merits. what they did, they said there is a procedural issue here. the state legislators, governor and attorney general decided not to defend prop 8 when the case went to court and left supporters to take up the case. the court said we never recognized private litigants can come and represent something that should be defended by state and government officials, and we won't start today. >> a resounding victory for gay couples in this country. >> and in california in particular, where it looks like they will start issuing licenses there. >> shannon, thank you. straight ahead, talk hoo-hoo. hoo-hoo...hoo-hoo. hoo-hoo hoo.

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>> greta: 11:00 is almost here, if you're saving up for a summer vacation, bad news your extra money may have been spent. tonight the president starting a three-country tour of africa that leaves with you a giant bill. griff jenkins hit the ground to find out what taxpayers think of that. >> how do you feel about the

president leaving on a $100 million vacation with the family this morning to go to africa but yet, white house tour at the cost of $75,000 a week are still to you, the people? >> yeah. that is unfortunate. >> i am really ticked off. >> i think the trip is good for global affairs they can take irs money being spent on the irs to do line dancing and stuff and bring it back to washington, d.c.. >> nice he gets to go on a summer vacation. i think it needs to come out of a private fund. >> i don't think it's fair. okay? can he do that? yes. >> he zeefshs a vacation. okay but i'm waiting for some help with the economy. >> greta: that is your last call we're closing down shop. thank you for being with us tonight we'll see you again tomorrow night. i just put a special question

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