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>> we're handing out ice cream, 11:00 o'clock. bryant park.ve: party perfect rentals.com, thank you for the dunk tank. +++ fox news alert. watching sanford, florida. did the star with it northeast pass or fail for the jury. rachel jeantel is back on the stand for another day of testimony. back for more punishment. heat require was a bizarre day yesterday. rachel jeantel is said to be the last person to talk to martin. she said he complained that he was being followed by a guy she
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described as creepy. >> what did he say? >> [bleep]. then i heard a bump to the head. trayvon had a headset. >> what did you he resume that was? >> the headset. i heard him say, "goat off! get off! ." bill: on cross-examination zimmerman's lawyer poked holed ihole --poked holes in her test. >> you waited until the morning ... >> no ...
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>> are you refusing -- >> we need to keep this a question and answer about her testimony. >> we need to plan on a couple hours. >> what? bill: she is back on the stand. phil keating is back in the courthouse in sanford, florida. this witness did not want to be there or did not want to stick around. that was clear from the testimony. >> reporter: she was hostile and difficult for the jurors to understand. they were straining to understand her. she speaks softly and much of it slang. she is the star witness because she is the only person who can say zimmerman from the get-go was the aggressor.
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>> he said why you are following me. then i madder -- >> reporter: the judge asking the jurors if they followed her sequestration rules. bill: we'll see how the prosecution rehabilitates her or takes her. the you're did hear some of zimmerman's previous phone calls that he made in the weeks or months prior about suspicious people in his neighborhood. how does that turn out, phil? >> reporter: that was a big victory for the prosecution who finally played those five zimmerman phone calls for the jury to hear. for prosecutors they argued it showed zimmerman's state of mind when he saw trayvon martin
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walking through his gated community. >> there's a break-in in my neighborhood recently. >> can you describe the two males. >> two african-american males. >> white, black or hispanic? >> black. >> the prosecution saying seeing trayvon martin was the straw that broke the camel's back. heather: zimmerman is claiming self-defense. but if found guilty of second degree murder he faces a mandatory minimum of 25 years. and a $10,000 fine. we'll ask lis weihl and mark
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fuhrman which side appears to be scoring the most points with the jury so far. former south african president nelson mandela is on life support. he has spent weeks in the hospital. he has a lung infection. what is the latest on his condition? >> reporter: we are just outside the hospital where nelson mandela is being treated. the father of south africa. the first black president here literally fating for his life. we have confirmed according to one family member of the mandelas that he is on life support. we heard from a spokesman saying he's in very critical condition. so critical that the president of south africa called off a
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one-day trip outside the country and has come here to visit nelson mandela. he just emerged. he's saying he has sable eyed a bit. he's better than the last time we saw him last night. we have been watching a stream of relatives going in and out of the hospital. they say he is responding a bit but it's not looking good. heather: clearly large crowd have gathered from far away. what i the scene like out there? >> reporter: we have just been here a couple days and we have seen hundreds of people coming here, leaving mementos. the icon for democracy and reconciliation. they want to leave something with him. they want him to hold on. but they are beginning to think
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this 94-year-old man who has given so much for this country. maybe it's time for him to pass on. tase a listen to what a few people told us just a while ago. >> we can't lose him now. >> reporter: what has he meant to your country? >> he's a hero. he's like a god to me. >> nobody will ever be able to replace him. >> he's a man to us ... >> reporter: president obama has called them on mandela his own personal hero and icon. he's planning to come here this weekend but there is no plans for president obama to meet with the ailing nelson mandela. bill: later in the week
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president obama and his family will be in south africa. right now he's in senegal. he was asked about snowden. he said he should not have to get directly in touch with russia's president to bring snowden back. >> i have not called them personally because number one, i shouldn't have to. this is something that's routinely dealt with between law enforcement officials in various countries. this is not exceptional from a legal perspective. i'm not going to be scrambling jets to get a 29-year-old hacker. bill: snowden is thought to be in the transit zone of a russian airport. russia saying that's a no-go
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zone for some reason. ecuador is deciding whether to grant him asylum. bill: americans getting in the unemployment line dropping slightly. however, this comes after the u.s. government lowered it estimate of gdp growth down to 1.8% showing that our economy may still have a long way to go. stuart varney with me now comes on the air at 9:15. let's get it in quickly. what does it tell us? >> reporter: this latest number tells us the layoff rate is far too high for this stage of the recovery. income has gone up a little but spending has lagged. a 1.8 per annual growth rate is very slow. so if you read all of these tea leaves, put it all together we have another year of high unemployment.
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another year of slow growth. maybe 2%, 2.5% growth and this will be for the fifth year in a row. we have sat here for years waiting for a robust growth rate and haven't gone it. bill: going back to 2009. the feds have this morphine drip going into the fund. >> how are you going stop printing so much money when you have still a relatively weak economy and rising unemployment rate. how do you do that? investor say that is not going to ease up on the printing of money. he will keep on printing. that's why this morning the dow jones industrial average will be back to 15,000. bill: you think the feds are you
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pimping the stock market. bill: there isn't a lost attention to the deficit going to 17 trillion. >> reporter: this 17 trillion of debt and the new debt we are taking on, $650 billion a year, that means it will be more expensive. it will cost us more down the road. bill: stuart varney, thank you, sir. heather: some stunning new fox polls showing two out of three americans are worried about the future of their healthcare. why that's a concern. bill: another senior irs official pleading the fifth. >> can you issue a statement by 5:00 today as to how someone could use this language in their official capacity as a government employee is still
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bill: fox polling find a sizable number of americans feeling uneasy about their healthcare under obama-care. 66 per of americans say they are worried about their healthcare when they expect their healthcare costs to go even higher. doug schoen and monica crowley. in the fall of this year, kicking in january 1, 2014. what does that number tell you? >> people are focused on what this legislation means for them and their lives and their healthcare. chuck schumer said the more people get to know obama-care
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the more they will love it because this thing is fantastic and the exact opposite has been true. now that we are several years into this law and it's going to kick in people are focusing what it means. it means higher taxes, higher premiums, less access to medical care and doctors and the gutting of immediate care. so now that people are taking a look at what it will mean for them personally, they are starting to worry about it and that's why you see the accompanying number that shows 2/3 of the american people want this thing repealed totally or in part. bill: if all that's true the number will go higher than i just showed you. >> exactly. >> this is an elect year for the republicans. it stimulated the tea party movement. while the president's ratings have dropped a bit. if the republicans are going to
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have a break through and their negatives not with standing all the problems forked administration, if they are their negatives are higher than the democrats they need a positive alternative to obama-care. bill: you say it's a big deal in 2014. monica, that number has gone up 9 points in a couple months. that march of 2013, it was 30%. repeal entirely to 39 per. >> when you poll people who want it repealed at least in part it's up to 58 per. this obama-care legislation has never been popular. but as we get closer to full implementation and the american people are starting to say wait a minute. what i this going to mean to me. maybe my employer is going to ditch the inn i currently have.
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i thought the president told me i could keep the insurance i have if i lake it. these turned out to be false promises and untrue. bill: it seems people are confused. i think everybody can agree with that. they don't know how their lives are going to change. >> with uncertainty for seniors comes fear. young people are worried they will face penalty or more expensive insurance. other exception is the healthcare exchanges that have not been quick to set up and the number of options offered is more limited in a lot of states. bottom line, uncertainty creates fear and fear creates political turmoil. bill: can you explain this away saying it's growing pains of a
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new law. >> i support healthcare. but this law is too big, too quick. it should have been insurance purchasing across state lines, tort reform. the fears are very real and it's more than growing pains. >> just on the issue of fear. the fact that the irs which is deeply mired in it own corruption and scandals. the fact that that agency will be the enforcer of our healthcare and we'll have to prove to the irs we have government-sanctioned health insurance avenues january 1, that instills a lot of fear and terror. bill: it's a huge issue and a big wrinkle. in the coming months we have much more opportunity to talk about this. thanks to both of you. doug, happy birthday. >> happy birthday, doug. heather: the white house reportedly meeting with a radical cleric who claims he
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hate america. more on that visit to the white house. bill: more companies cutting ties with celebrity chef paula deen. dad. how did you get here? i don't know. [ speaking in russian ] look, look, look... you probably want to get away as much as we do. with priceline express deals, you can get a fabulous hotel without bidding. think of the rubles you'll save. with one touch, fun in the sun. i like fun. well, that went exactly i as planned.. really?
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five paid days a year. thousands of others will get unpaid time as well. heather: the white house is taking tough criticism following a new report that administration officials met with a radical egyptian cleric who had been banned from entering the united states. peter doocy is live with us from washington. who is it and who arranged the meeting? >> reporter: the white house did when they invited him to the white house. that invitation was reported by the investigative project on terrorism. the white house confirmed he was at a meeting with gail smith their senior director for development and democracy and members of the national security staff. to quote to talk about a wide range of issues including
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efforts to counter the al qaeda narrative. miss ship said she met with him and others of mutual interest. but a report on his web site says he was there to ask the white house to do more to help the syrian rebels. the group's founder has ties to the muslim brotherhood and the international community of muslim scholars said it was the duty of muslims to kill u.s. soldiers in iraq. heather: this person is in the white house and invited there. how is the administration defending their meeting with this man at the white house. >> reporter: the white house points to a 3-year-old statement he used where he said anyone who
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seeks support from the fatwa for killing muslims or non-muslims has miss applied the revealed text. and they say he has done charity work with the bill and melinda gates foundation. bill: back to the george zimmerman trial. she is said to be the star witness for the prosecution. she is back on the stan for day two. is the defense trying to poke more holes in her story? we'll tell you what they have been saying. heather: the stunning turn around for a rising nfl star. the trail that police say led to murder charges for aaron hernandez. >> everybody talks about him, how he graduated from here and
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at one point she was described as being trayvon martin's girlfriend. she said she was just a friend. whatever the truth on that matter we know she was the person who spoke to trayvon martin last on the night that he was killed. in sanford, florida. she was on the stand yesterday, a bit of a mixed bag about how effective her testimonies was. the defense brought her back for day two. they have been at it for the last 30 minutes, i want you to hear how the defense attorney is trying to take down her credibility. >> he described him as a creepy -- >> yes. >> it was racial because trayvon
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martin put race in this. you don't think that's a racial comment? >> no. >> you don't think creeping ass cracker is a racial comment? >> no. >> you didn't mention it in your letter, correct? >> [inaudible] >> you didn't tell. >> it's a personal letter to the mother. >> you didn't tell miss fulton that the man that was following him was a creepy ass cracker, did you? >> no. bill: that from a knew moment ago. now her testimony continues. at one point the defense attorney was reading a letter she says she wrote. it was in cursive and she could not read it back to the jury and the court. so the defense attorney is reading it for her.
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former new england pay the jots star aaron hernandez. a year ago he was an all-pro in the league. he's accused of killing a semi pro football player. shooting i am in the chest, side and back. >> reporter: we have breaking news here just crossing. aaron hernandez will be back in court later on this afternoon in fall river in the superior court for another bail hearing. apparently his attorneys would like to make an argument he should be allowed out on bail. yesterday the judge said no you cannot get out on bail. he's expected to be back in court. out of connecticut, this investigation is well beyond massachusetts. there was a search of a connecticut home belong to aaron hernandez' relatives that
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happened before 8:00 last night. investigators spent two hours at that home. they checked out the garage, took pictures. brought evidence out. bill: the d.a. and prosecutors in this case, she showed their hand in court because they had to under law. what evidence did they have linking hernandez to this murder? >> reporter: they talked a lot about surveillance video when they were trying to bring this case against hernandez. they say there was surveillance video at the home. hernandez put in the surveillance system not too long ago. he's upset that you can't trust anyone anymore according to prosecutors. the rental car that prosecutors
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found in the neighborhood where the victim lives. police say hernandez and two other men picked up the victim and the rental car was caught at the site of the murder. bill: thank you, molly. heather: prosecutors say a digital trail of surveillance linked hernandez to the shooting. joe -- winel is from the "boston heard." what do you know about this digital trail and surveillance video. >> it comes all the way from where the victim lives down to the major highway in north attleboro. up the street to the instrumental park where
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prosecutors say odin lloyd was he can cuted. they had surveillance of him walking in with a gun showing in his hand. heather: we heard initial reports that he attempted to destroy the surveillance system at this home. clearly that was unsuccessful? >> clearly. they say they have lots of surveillance and cell phone and text records. so it's a digital evidence that's piled up. heather: i want to ask you about that text message. there was a report there text message from the victim himself as he was being driven away by the suspect and the text message said nfl and it was to his sister. >> very chilling. the night of the murder, june 17, 3:00 a.m. in the morning. he sent three texts to his
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sister saying do you want to know who i'm with? see who i'm with? nfl. helped * we heard molly talk about surveillance video that showed hip previously with a gun. i understand the weapon involved in this murder has not been found yet. is that still true and what do we know about this gun he was seen with in the video from the surveillance at his home? >> authorities say it's a .45 caliber semi-automatic handgun and they are looking for it. we are being told they are looking all over for this murder weapon. so that is something that still is ready to break. heather: the two accomplices we heard about. do tough an update on them? i understand you are still looking for them? >> they are looking in connecticut. that's also something that's going to break today, i believe. we are on that. we are down there in bristol. as for the other suspect.
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no news of that person yesterday. >> that's interesting. we heard molly just mention the home that they are searching in connecticut as well that they believe that may be the home of a relative. do they belief one of these accomplices may be related to hernandez? >> i have not heard that on the record yet. we all know hernandez said get out there on the 16th to two of this associates. so they must know that digital footprint who those people might be. heather: calling to say coordinated execution. i heard some people reference it in that way. do they have hard evidence at this point? the rental car? >> they have a shell casing and they have bubble gum from the rental car. they found out that the car rented by hernandez had this
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specific type of cotton candy bubble gum and shell case and they traced that bubble gum purchased at a gas station off route 28. heather: what do you expect will happen today in term of -- i did want to ask you about the bail hearing. apparently he's going back for a second bail hearing. do you think they will let him out? >> i don't know. he's a multi millionaire. high powered lawyers. they will argue he didn't go anywhere last week. last week the charges weren't out. the murder charge. i don't think they will let him out. i think his lawyers will fight every single day. i don't know how successful they will be. then the case is expanded in connecticut. i think the gun -- firing the gun will be big news. that's where this is going and
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it's not slowing down. >> he's cut from the patriots so he does the have that anymore. thanks for checking in with us, joe. bill: he was with two other guys and we don't know who they are. he's from the area. but he's from bristol, connecticut so it's not that far away. heather: they are looking for them in connecticut. bill: another irs manager pleading the fifth. the chairman of the committee next on overreach and spending abuse. i've got to tell you the upshot of the these past couple months the irs to me is an institution that is terminally ill.
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heather: a slight setback for sarah murnaghan. the 10-year-old girl recovering after a double lung transplant. doctors tried to remove her breathing tube but were forced to reinsert it. the little girl couldn't handle the reduced support. doctors say she just needs time to regain her strength. hopefully she'll be okay. bill: we are awaiting testimony from the irs, danny werfel and his investigation into the
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agency's targeting scandal after another senior irs official took the fifth during a hearing just yesterday. >> mr. roseman, are you currently employed by the irs? >> mr. chairman on the advice of counsel i respectfully refuse to answer any questions and invoke my fifth amendment privilege to remain silent. >> are you prepared to answer any questions here today about your role in the irs informations and technologies products and services from strong cattle inc? >> mr. chairman, no. bill: darrell issa, welcome back to america' newsroom. what did you think yesterday? i think you thought were going to get the fifth. did you? >> we did suspect that. our report came out that morning that included some revealing
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information in things mr. rose man was involved. but in the weeks and months leading up to this we couldn't get the irs to see there was a there there. only during our investigation did the senior deputy in charge tucker admit now there was something that concerned her. that's one of the problem at the irs and more broadly in government. when good people do things, it's fine. when they do thing wrong they don't see it. bill: the allegation is $500 million he helped out a buddy and friend and this is being traced back to him. you just wonder, it's just one scandal after another at this agency. what's going on there? >> this scandal at the irs also includes failure to have the regulation to protect the american people, the small business administration and veterans. these individuals game the system by having a minor injury turned into a disability for the
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strong castle ceo. temperature. they gamed the location which is chinatown, an area of washington. this whole process shows that we need real changes inside government. this is an administration that cannot tell right from wrong or truth from false. bill: it's not just in washington. our polling found 55% of the people we surveyed do not believe that the president handling of this situation regarding conservative groups has been approved. or they approve of the way he has handled that. later in the week you will have a chance to bring back lois lerner. do you think lois lerner will be back in front of your committee and will be forced to answer questions? >> tomorrow friday we are going to take the first steps towards getting her back and getting her to answer questions. we don't want her taking the
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fifth. when want her answering the questions because we need to know. the administration -- the progressive groups are self-identifying that they were hurt. it's clear this was a target of figure conservative groups done by the irs not just in cincinnati, but in washington. bill: did she waive her amendment privilege when she made a statement before your committee some week ago? >> i believe so. i believe trey gowdy's point during the hearing and the reason we recessed instead adjourn is so we could have opinions from learned appropriate people as to the law. we'll consider that friday and that's the first step toward bringing her back. bill: that would seem to suggest she'll come back. >> we believe she do. i believe after the committee properly reviewed the facts i
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believe we'll reach the decision she has waived her rights. she needs to answer questions. bill: i'm out of time. but when would that testimony take place if she comes back? >> we'll make our designificant friday and schedule it for immediately following or reasonably following the 4th of july recess which is only a week. bill: darrell issa, thank you for your time. in that hearing an iraq war veteran lashing at at an irs contractor for allegedly abusing the system. what got her so ticked off. heather: how much of her empire will paula deen's words cost her? today new fallout. >> i have apologized. i'll never -- and i can truthfully say in my life i have never with any intention hurt anybody on purpose. and i never would.
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heather: a new dent in the crown of the comfort queen as walmart drops her. >> i'll tell you a conversation i had with my 7-year-old grandson the other day. he spent the night an was allowed to stay up later than this bedtime. i said jack, you got janey in trouble with mommy and daddy when you told them i let you stay up late. an was playing with my ipad, and he put that ipad down and he looked up at me and he said,
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i don't tell lies. that's how i raised my children. that's how i was raised. that's how my friend children are being raised. and i know as well as i'm sitting here with you i know how i treat people. if there is anyone out there that has never said something they wish they could take back, if you are out there, please pick up that stone and throw it so hard at my head that it kills me. heather: , we have a crisis management expert. what do you make of that >> she is trying to relate to the general audience. and the story about her grandson. she is a real porn. she made a mistake. some people are saying crocodile
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tears it's no doubt she is upset. her world is crumbling. the fact that she is crying with matt lauer is real. we have to look at was where we are at. a lot of the big guys dropped her. home depot, wall part. is she going to be as big as she once was? no. but there are a lot of people out there ready to swoop in. she has a lot of fans. click over to the food channel and the food network, they already have the banner picture changed to support her. celebrity cruises. heather: in terms of the apologies. this wasn't the first one we heard. there would were two that end out with say this is your client. did thee handle it wrong from the beginning and could all of this been avoided if she had done something else? what should she are done and what would your advice be?
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>> i think anybody can tell you that she did not handle his properly out of the box. this is a lawsuit from a disgruntled employee. it happens every single day. hundreds of time. it goes to court. you acknowledge it and come on and let people know you don't believe in discrimination. but you don't need to come on and mac you're own u tube video crying, take it down, put another one up. she needed to be a little more thought out and not done videos by herself. bill: another day, another bombshell in the george zimmerman trial. [ bell dings ] [ crowd cheering ] [ male announcer ] for sensitive skin, there's fusion proglide. our micro thin blades are thinner than a surgeon's scalpel for our gentlest shave. switch to fusion proglide. gillte. the best a man can get.
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bill: it's 10:00 in the morning in sanford, florida. this trial, george zimmerman's attorney cross examining the key prosecution witness. trying to poke holes in her story. the teenager who last spoke to trayvon martin on a cell phone before he was shot and killed. the defense attorney asking trayvon martin's friend asking why her account of the event that night is different from a letter she had a friend write to trayvon's mother and a deposition she gave later that day. in the letter she doesn't say
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anything about trayvon saying anything about martin. >> is this the letter you gave to sabrina horton? >> yes. >> this letter does not contain any response the person gave to trayvon martin when he said "why are you following me?" your testimony today is what you heard the man say on the phone was "what are you doing out here?" >> yes. >> then you said mr. zimmerman's response was "what are you talking about?" >> yes. >> describing the person is what made you think was racial because he described him as a creepy ass cracker. >> yes.
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>> so it was racial about it was because cray von martin put race in this. you don't think that's a racial comment? >> no. >> you don't think creepy ass cracker is a racial comment? >> no. >> you didn't mention it in your letter, correct? >> that's [inaudible] bill: that was in the last hour. after that last hour the judge told the defense attorney don west to move on. the defense continues to press rachel jeantel on her testimony. we want to rejoin this questioning. >> you said you hear trayvon martin said as you said later a
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"get off, get off," correct? >> yes. >> that's because you didn't think it was important at that point? >> the comment is about [inaudible] the fight starting in the grass. he asked me about that. >> so when you decided what part of what you knew to tell miss fulton, you decided not to tell her that part? >> i'm not sure that was her answer. i believe she said they never asked her that. >> now i'm asking about this witness' thinking. when you decide wad part of the information you had about the events on the evening of
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february 26, you decided in what to tell miss fulton not to tell her that you had heard "get off, get off" from trayvon martin? >> argu >> objection, argumentative. >> do you understand the question? >> no, ma'am. >> break it down. she says she doesn't understand. >> okay. >> march 19. >> yes. >> you had a meeting with miss fulton in front of her home. >> yes. >> you had already written the letter to give to her. >> yes, sir.
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>> when you wrote the letter about what happened on the evening of february 26 and decided what to put in it, you made the decision not to include that you heard trayvon martin say "get off, get off." >> yes, sir. >> then when you went to miss fulton's house to talk with her and she was so anxious to know what happened. >> i didn't go in her house. >> out front. when you went to miss fulton's house with the letter in hand and she so desperately wanted to know what happened. you among the things you chose to tell her decided not to tell her that you heard her son say "get off, get off" on the phone? >> yes, sir. >> you are saying that's because she didn't specifically ask you? >> no, sir.
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>> could you explain your thinking? >> [inaudible] >> of all the thing you decided were important to tell her to write in the letter. >> she asked for examples. examples, none of that. the state [inaudible] so no, sir. >> how would they know to ask you if you didn't tell them what you knew? >> objection. >> to the extent of her explaining why or why not the state did something i will sustain.
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>> whether or not some up with specifically asked you, you made the decision not to volunteer that information? >> i wasn't being asked. i did not think those were important. that part -- he sad me that. >> we'll talk about that in a little more detail in a minute. let's progress to the interview you gave to mr. crum on the phone on march 19 later the same day. you acknowledge that nowhere in that -- what was it, 30 minute
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all together? >> at least. >> the interview. but nowhere during that interview did you say in response to any question specific or general that you heard trayvon martin say a little "get off, get off." >> he didn't ask me what happened. he asked me did you hear when he was fighting. did you hear something was going on between the fight. he tid not ask me that. the state asked me that. sir. >> what you told mr. crum was that you heard trayvon martin say, "why are you following me in" then you heard mr. zimmerman say what are you talking about
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or what are you doing around here. and then you heard something that you described as sort of a bump. and said the phone cut off. >> the guy beat his headset. his headset is always on his left ear. the speaker. >> what you said was at that point the phone cut off. >> yes. >> so once the phone cuts off. >> i called back. >> there is nothing else that you have to say, correct in once the phone cuts off you can't hear anything else that might have been said because the phone had been disconnected. >> yes, sir. >> so you told in crum that the phone cut off. >> yes, sir.
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>> so if you say at the point where there was this exchange -- the conversation -- the exchange, and the bump and the phone cut off, doesn't that leave the impression that there was nothing else you could hear after that? >> yes, sir. >> you didn't at that point say, oh, by the way, no, i heard more after that. >> ask me more, sir. the state asked me more, sir. >> well, are you saying, then, that when you told mr. crum after you heard the bump and the phone cut off that you decided not to tell him that after the
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bump but before the phone cut off, you heard trayvon martin say "get off, get off"? >> you may answer. >> i told you from the beginning, it didn't last that long. i did not want to be on the phone, sir. so i did not take my time just like -- i took my time -- i had more time when i was talking to the state. so the questions -- bill: the star witness for the prosecution. defense attorney don west is trying to poke holes in her story. we have to get a commercial.
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bill: we'll take you back to the courtroom. first mark fuhrman, and lis weihl. ladies first, lis. is this effective for the prosecution or not? >> it's classic impeachment for the defense. they are going through three different things. you weren't there. you didn't see anything. you weren't an actual eyewitness. what you are talking about when you testified on direct is your impressions. but you weren't actually there. you made it racial, not trayvon march tun, not zimmerman. up described it as racial. the third point is you were not forthcoming. you omitted things from yours first and second report and only added to them later. that hurts her on
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cross-examination. bill: is this helping or hurting zimmerman's case? >> i think it's helping zimmerman's case. i think this witness is so done. i think the jury is going through pains trying to keep up with which story, which name, which phone number, which explanation, which statement. the jury has to omit it all because they can't pick and choose because she seems unsure about every single thing. bill: throw it out, mark? >> no. >> you have to understand she talked to trayvon martin. but outside of what is consist 10 with zimmerman and martin, everything else seems to be up for grabs as she sees it when she want to change it. >> i disatbreer just a little bit. jurors know she is unpressure. she is a young person trying to
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react to a hard situation here. i don't think that hold that against her. bill: she is 19. we'll take our viewers back inside. she is 19. she was 18 on the night of february 26, 2012 when trayvon martin was fatally shot. >> do you remember the date that this took place? >> no, sir. >> a couple weeks ago you went to fdle in miami and they gave you a chance to review the statement? >> yes. >> and did you? >> yes. >> did you review any other statement at that time? >> i watched the interview that i had. >> that would be a videotaped deposition? >> yes, sir. >> did you review any other material in anticipation of
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coming to court? >> no, sir. >> did you review the transcript or listen to the recordings? >> no, sir. >> let's talk about the interview april 2, 2012. i know you talked about in this case already and that you talked about in that interview the idea that the phone kept hanging up that day. >> yes, sir. >> so you and trayvon martin would be talking and for no apparent reason the call would be lost. >> yes, sir. >> not because you hung up,
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correct? >> no, sir. >> or because you know of -- >> pardon me? >> bad signal. >> you were plagued with a bad signal all day. >> yes, sir. >> and you never knew when the phone was going to disconnect. >> no, sir. >> usually what would happen is when the phone disconnected, one or the other of you would call each other back? >> yes, sir. >> throughout the course of the day you wound up speaking with each other several hours. >> yes, sir. >> what you remember about this case, though, and the phone disconnecting was that there were points in time within the conversation after george zimmerman saw trayvon martin and began watching him that the phone hung up and that you
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dialed mr. martin back or that he dialed you back. >> yes, sir. >> then there were points in time when you would remember what was happening after the call was reconnected? >> yes, sir. >> it's your recollection that while at the mailbox that's when the phone hung up at least once? >> yes, sir. >> and before that, after mr. zimmerman was keeping his eye on trayvon martin, coul, dou remember the phone hanging up? >> he began walking back home -- >> before you get to that. we were using this point where trayvon martin says to you that
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mr. zimmerman is watching you. so from that point you said that the phone did cut off a couple times after that. but think this first. before that point, do you remember talking to trayvon martin after he entered the complex and having the phone disconnect? >> yes, sir. >> where was he when the conversation took place? >> the mena area. >> the on time you remember the phone disconnecting prior to learning from mr. martin that george zimmerman was keeping his eye on him was what you believe to be when mr. march tun was at the mail area? >> yes, sir. >> after that ... bill: it's difficult to understand the back and forth. it can be confusion at times. but in a way that is what the
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defense attorney wants. to pocket inconsistencies in the story of this witness. she wrote a letter and said i was on the phone with trayvon when he decided to go to the corner store. he took a walk to another complex because it was raining so hard. that's what was written in the letter. we will seele how that matches p we have been conditions to expect less and less in the name of more is more. abundant space, available leading-edge technology, impeccable design, and more than you've come to expect from a luxury vehicle. the lexus es350 and epa-estimated 40 mpg es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection.
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martha: fox news alert for you. we'll take you back to the george zimmerman trial where the prosecution's key witness is on the stand for a second day, being cross-examined by the defense at this point, who is, you know, at times painstakingly trying to poke holes through what she has to say. allegedly the last person to hear trayvon martin speak over a
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cellphone. she claimed yesterday that her friend's last words were, get off, get off, and then the phone went silent. let's listen in to what she has to say today. >> mr. martin continued to walk? >> yes, sir. >> and he observed and told you that the man is following him in the car? >> yes, sir. >> and then you said, well run? >> yes, sir. >> and he did run. >> to the back area. >> he wasn't -- he was on the street or on the sidewalk in front of mr. zimmerman's car at the point that he decided to run. >> yes, sir. >> and he ran? >> yes, sir. in the back area to try to leave him. >> you don't know whether he ran in the direction where you could only travel by foot, or whether you could drive? >> no, sir.
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i don't live in that area. >> agreed, no. what you knew at that point, though, was that mr. zimmerman was still in his vehicle, probably still on the phone, because trayvon martin never said he wasn't -- >> speculating os to wha as to what mr. zimmerman was doing regarding the phone. >> mr. martin never said he wasn't on the phone? >> the only time that trayvon told me the man was on the phone when he was at the mail area, that's the only time. he was still on the phone. i never knew about that, he never told me about that. he just told me the man started following him. >> he was on the phone and he never told you that he wasn't on the phone. >> no. >> but he was still in the car. >> yes -- yes, sir. >> and then that you said, well
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run, and he ran, correct? >> yes, to the back area. >> that's what is confusing me. when you say ran from the back are you saying that at the point that he decided to run -- >> yes. >> -- that he decided to run from where he was to the back of where he was staying? >> yes. >> you don't know what direction he took to head that way? >> no, sir. >> because you don't know where he was at the point that he decided to run. >> no, sir. >> but you do know that he ran. >> yes, sir. >> and you could tell because you could hear the wind. >> yes, sir. >> and then the phone cut off? >> yes, sir. i think -- yes. yes, sir. >> so at that point you knew that he was running? >> yes, sir.
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when i called back. >> let me take eight little slower. at the point that he ran you knew he was running? >> yes, sir. >> you didn't know if he was running around on the street or sidewalk where mr. zimmerman could continue to follow him in the vehicle, or whether he ran through a cut through or something where no vehicles -- >> objection argumentative as to what mr. zimmerman was doing when she has no knowledge, only what trayvon martin was telling her. >> it would be speculation. you have to ask her what she knows, what she thinks somebody else may have been doing. >> yes, of course. what i'm focusing on was at the point that trayvon martin ran, do you have that point pretty clear in your mind, correct? >> yes, sir. >> you don't know whether he ran on around on the street that he had been walking on -- >> no, sir. >> -- or whether he ran through a part of the community where you can't drive? >> no, sir. i told you when he ran the phone
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lost contact, it shut off so i had called back again. >> at the point that he ran the phone cut off. >> are yes, sir. >> and then you called back. >> yes, sir. >> and how long was it in between you losing the connects and you calling back? >> i don't know, sir. >> well, do you think the phone was shut off by somebody? you didn't hang up, right? >> no, sir. >> and you have no reason to think that trayvon martin hung up? >> no, sir. >> so it seemed to you like what had been happening all day, that for no apparent reason, maybe bad signal, the call was lost? >> yes, sir. >> so you talked with him then again, was that a minute, two minutes, five seconds? do you have any sense of after he ran when it was that you talked with trayvon martin again? >> i don't understand what your
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question is. >> if i might have a moment. paus >> let me show you defendant's -- >> once again you're watching testimony from someone earlier described as the star witness for the prosecution, rachel jeantel, 19 years old, supposedly the last person to speak to trayvon martin the night of this attack, prior to the incident, as it was happening with george zimmerman. the defense attorneys questioning her today trying to poke holes through her case. at times you can here it's very muffled as she tries to answer their questions, and they combative at times as well. we'll continue to follow this case on the other side of the break. stay with us.
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want to believe. you have to take it on its totality, and i hear the media at large and everybody that makes comments on this case are making excuses for this witness. this is a very simple thing. if she's going to testify and remember it all, could we at least have it consistent? she seems to continually add some items as time goes on that benefits the prosecution. she's brought race into this. she is not aware how she assumed that, but she assumed that over the phone. you know, the jury has got to look at this witness and say, if this is the star witness are we going to send a man to prison for ten, 20, 30 or 40 years on the testimony of this woman that can't seem to remember statements, can't seem to remember times, and has already really predisposed herself to the situation being racial? sometimes, life is not
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consistent for a 19-year-old. its almost more factual if she is not that consistent, if she can't remember it so patently. >> i disagree. this is a murder case. bill: do you think she is being credible? >> i think she is being credible to an extent. let me go into what we heard a few minutes ago. zimmerman is in the car. he's on the phone. you tell him to run. i mean the defense went through a million questions to get to those basic three facts. that means at that point zimmerman was not the aggressor. he was on the phone making a phone call, he was watching trayvon martin, then she says, run. he runs. then we don't know which way he runs. that's what the defense is going on now. then the phone cut out and we don't know why the phone cut out because the defense made a good argument that it's been cutting out all day, you guys have been talking back and forth, it cuts out all the time. that is important analysis right now for what is going on. bill: one of our producers inside the courtroom is saying
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that their heads are going back and forth like a tennis match, when don west asks a question and rachel answers a question back and forth. she is an ear witness not an eyewitness, mark, you wonder is she the best witness prosecutors have? no one else was there other than george zimmerman. you can put the parents on the stand to attest to his character. you can put a ballistics expert on the stand and say this is the bullet that came from said gun. even zimmerman would admit that. is this as close as we humanly get literally to a witness sth. >> i believ witness? >> i believe it is. i think this is the peak of the prosecution's case. it's certainly not in their control. the case was filed and if this is the peak of the case and this is as good as it gets, as the prosecution rests i think this is one of those cases where i really, really question if the prime a fascia case for the charge as even been met by the prosecution. >> you know as well as i do mark
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when the prosecution has a case like this when there is no eyewitness to the scene it is brick on brick circumstantial evidence, little by little witnesses: and the judge made a very important ruling yesterday saying the five calls to nonemergency in a year before -- bill: it could be an important piece of evidence. mark thanks, lis thanks. when it resumes we'll go back and bring you back on. heather: an abortion bill in texas may have been shouted down by protestors today. [shouting] >> republican lawmakers may be getting a second chance to get it passed. ahead we will speak with the lieutenant governor about plans for another special session. hey.
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heather: an american held hostage pie his own employees in china is now free. nearly one hundred workers blocked chip starns from leaving his factory in beijing last saturday. they accusing of planning to close the plant without paying severancess and back pay. he says the chinese police did nothing to help him. >> they classified it as a civil dispute and a civil dispute between workers and a factory, i guess this his how they can hold you up, or hostage or ran so many, whatever you want to title it as. >> he was released after
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agreeing to some of the workers a demands. he plans to reopen the factory even after all of this. bill: republicans may get a second chance to pass a sweeping set of abortion laws in texas. lawmakers missed the deadline to vote by mere minutes we are told because the lieutenant governor david dewhurst was shouted down by hundreds of protestors when calling for the final vote around midnight. >> if i can have order we will suspend the "roll call" vote until we can get order in the chamber. if we can get order in the chamber we will suspend the "roll call" vote. bill: the went like that until after the midnight hour. david dewhurst is with me now. you put out a statement yesterday stating you were furious. >> absolutely. i've always been a strong protector of women's health, and
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the rights of the pre born, but, bill, i'm really mad, the will of the people of texas is not going to be thwarted by obama-style mob tack tickets. we can't permit that in the state of texas. bill: the vote would have been 19-10 had it been official. that tells me this measure is going to pass. hang on one moment here. we may have lost our connection down there in texas. hopefully we'll get him back, the lieutenant governor speaking to us out of austin, texas. 19-10 was the vote, so not recorded officially. after the special session is called back in at some point there will be another vote. if there is a vote expect the phebs you are tit to pass in texas. it would mean only five of texas' 42 abortion clinics to stay in operation. part of the reason why we brought the lieutenant governor on is to figure out if the law
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is signed into law how would it change abortion in the state of texas. our apologies for that satellite connection, that is unfortunate. we'll try and restrab th re-establish the connection. if and when we can we'll bring it to you. heather: it was really interesting to watch that unfold. it really didn't look like -- it looked like it was possibly happening somewhere else than texas. well a little prayer and a whole lot of faith. daredevil nik wallenda became the first person ever to tightrope talk across the grand canyon, 15,000 feet up in high wind on two inches of steel cable. joining us now, nik wallenda. i am so happy to meet you and i'm happy you're okay. >> so am i. heather: i watched that walk along with 13 million people
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that watched it how did you prepare for it? >> i set up a wire low to the ground, we recreated wind gusts, with a 52 meal an hour wind as well as a tear repb shal a torrential rain. we knew we wouldn't face anything over 60 miles an hour in the grand canyon. heather: was there anything that surprised you when you were up there? >> there was a couple of things, visually it was a challenge, there were the jagged edges of the walls of the canyon, and it kind of made me dizzy which isn't a good thing on the wire. the wind were unpredictable. the temperature was different refpbt thadifferent than we thought. the wire was at 77,000 mound which was when it was about 97 degrees which was supposed to be. it tensions when it heats up. it was cooler than that the wire
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tensioned off to about 62,000-pound. it was little more slack, it moved a little more. it all comes down to the training and that's why training is so vital pre mayoring for the worst case and that's what i did. >> this is something that's been in your family for general mcchrystagenerations. the flying wallenda's. >> 1780 my grandfather started. heather: he actually died. he fell to his death in 1978 walking between two buildings in san juan puerto rico. i had the honor of going back with my mother and both of us walked in that exact area, a cable she walked out to the middle and sat down right where he had fallen and i stepped over her and then we walked to the end. heather: a lot of people say if that happens to someone i love we may want to rethink and not do it. you did the opposite. >> my great grandfather was 73 had a double herein yeah and a broken collarbone. if there were any issues i would have went down to the safety of the wire. i've got rescue teams that can
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be to me at 60 seconds anywhere on that wire. he was 73 and didn't have the strength to hold on. he went down to the safety of the wire but couldn't hold on. heather: he had the pole with him. >> he did. it kind of pushed him off a bit. i've trained to fall from that wire and not just hang with your arms. we now there wouldn't be winds that would pick me up, off and over. heather: you want to walk across from the empire state building to the chrysler building in new york city. that's correct my dro do a big walk in new york city. >> it would be about .75 miles. >> about three-quarters of a mile across. >> would you do that with no net? >> that would clearly be my preference. the only walk i've ever used a tether or a net was the walk over niagara falls. >> on a two inch fire? >> it might be a little smaller, three-quarters of an inch of wire because of the logistics. heather: we will see fit happens. thank you for joining us.
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heather: a quick look agent the tko*up thdow, it's 151, 152 it keeps going back and forth. unemployment claims dropped last week by 9,000, consumer spending up in may as people's incom incomincomeincomes increased that making the markets happy above 15,000 here. bill: i want to get back now to the lieutenant governor of texas. our apologies a moment ago the satellite signal dropped out of
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us. you're back with us now. by my count it was a 19-10 vote in the senate. when it goes to the full house this measure should pass. if it toes pass how will abortion change in the state of texas under this law? >> it's going to better protect, bill, the health of the women, which has always been one of my priorities, and it's going to help and protect the preborn. what it does is it raises the standard so that we have safe abortion facilities, that abortionists have to have admitting privileges at a hospital within 30 miles. if you are inducing abortion that you have to have a physician there, all common-sense things. what the planned parenthood, what the aclu did was try and thwart the will of the people of texas with obama-style tactics, and i've got to tell you i'm mad. i am really driven to pass this. i have been a strong supporter
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of pro-life legislation all of my life. bill: quickly here you said you were furious, you called this crowd unruly. what they would claim is that you'll only provide abortion in knife different centers throughout the entire state of texas. are they right about that? >> nonsense. nonsense. first of all these abortionists can practice in a ambu torrey places around texas. our own physicians, we have three physicians who are texas senators, who argued with them and said there is plenty of money to have an adequate medical care. what do you want to do, put women's lives at risk when abortion is occurring? i don't. even though i'm pro live. you have to be able to protect the health of women. that's why our women senators, our women republican senators were so passionate about this.
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this is about protecting women's health and about protecting the rights of the unborn. bill: thank you. we'll see the special session begins next week. >> we'll pass it. bill: we'll see if it moves forward. thanks out of austin. heather: dramatic testimony going on in the george zimmerman murder trial. the prosecution's star witness facing tough questions during cross-examination. we have a live update for you coming up next.
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bill: heather comes on and the whole world. heather: another busy day. bill: terrific having you back with us. make it a great day. heather: nice to be here. bill: "happening now" starts right now. see you on friday, everybody. jenna: brand-new stories and breaking news. >> chilling news in the murder case against aaron hernandez. they call his friend's death an orchestrated execution as we await his court appearance to plead for bail and there is word of another arrest. president obama weighs in on nsa leaker edward snowden, why he won't be doing anything to get snowden back into u.s. custody. the immigration bill is heading for a final vote in the u.s. senate. what democrats are doing to make the vote happen as early as today and the bill's chances once it reaches the house. fox news alert from capitol hill where the acting head of the
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