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>> yes. >> you do acknowledge, though, the first time that you were asked that question in your interview with mr. crump later that day, your response was that mr. zimmerman said what you talking about? >> yes. >> so it was racial, but it was because trayvon martin put race in this? >> no. >> you don't think that's a racial comment? >> no. >> you don't think that creepy [ bleep ] is a racial comment? >> no. >> again, you lied because you wanted to give a plausible answer to ms. fulton as to why you didn't go to the wake? >> yes, sir. >> but on the april 2nd

interview, you, in fact, were under oath. >> yes, sir. >> and you knew that? >> yes, sir. >> so the prosecution's "star witness" have a credibility problem? here with reaction, fox news legal analyst, peter johnson jr. and jonah spilbore and attorney analisa sekolazi. creepy ass cracker, and the "n" word. what do you think about that? >> if this is the star prosecution witness, i don't want to see the worst witness. the case in terms of prosecution was supposed to be about racial attitudes of george zimmerman and front and center, we hear trayvon martin invoking the "n" word and another bad word, cracker. so i think it's backfired in a big way. >> and annie, the prosecutor? >> i will disagree. that's what we do.

this is a teenager. while i wish it wasn't, this is how kids are talking. it's not so unexpected, and i say it goes toward her credibility, because that is what she said. >> you believe she was a credible, helpful witness for the prosecution? >> yeah, i do. >> writes a lie, and couldn't even read the letter? >> she can't really write very well. we're not talking about a woman extremely educated. >> she said she wrote the letter. >> you take your witnesses as you find them, and you cannot get away from the fact that this was the young woman on the phone with trayvon martin at the time of his death. agree that the -- the defense, had they kept her on the stand for a half hour or hour, a little differently. the longer they kept her on, much too long, she strengthened her position. >> every time she opened her mouth, she chipped away at her own credibility, so much so, i don't think she has any. this is the prosecution's star witness.

you know going in, i agree you take your witnesses as you find them. the prosecution had to know she was going to be an awful witness. don't put her on first. put your case on and save her for last in case you can get away with not putting her on at all. >> i agree with her. >> here is the issue. i feel sorry for her as a person, forced into the situation. >> i agree with that, by the way. >> she can't read, has lit racy problems. >> the public comments have been cruel to her. >> she didn't ask to be put in this situation. in terms of the decedent, the so-called victim in this case, she's revealed a tremendous lot that goes beyond cultural norms. >> let's play where she reveals what anna and i were discussing, that she can't read the letter that she and the friend supposedly written and she said she had wrote about the shooting. >> and you and ms. sur talked

about what you wanted to be in the letter and she helped write it in a way that was legible, correct? >> yes. >> but the contents of the letter are yours? >> yes. >> are you able to read that copy well enough that you can tell us if it's, in fact, the same letter? >> no. >> are you unable to read that at all? >> some of it. >> can you read any of the words on it? >> i don't understand. i don't read very well. >> credibility? >> that goes to her credibility. this is a young woman who is embarrassed, and has someone help write something. >> two people making very different women. >> i have been dealing with women like her and homicides for

the last 10, 12 years. this is your next-door neighbor. >> did she write the letter? >> her friend wrote the letter, she can't read it. >> i want to know that she wrote that letter that she wrote, right? >> exactly. you can't enter it into evidence with any burden of proof on the prosecution if she can't demonstrate that those were her words. that that is what she was talking about. >> there's a pathos about it, a pathetic quality about it, sean. but at the same time, are you right in this part. is it a fabrication? not a recorded telephone call. all we have is her accounts, and if she can't authenticate that, then there is a problem. but i feel sorry for her again. >> a lot of her account was corroborated by other people already. have you phone records in evidence that show the call at the exact times she says. and other witness testified today. >> does any of this show that george zimmerman is guilty of

second degree murder? we've got to get to that point in this case. >>ith not just second degree murder in this case. we also have manslaughter and in florida, manslaughter is the killing of someone else by the act, procurement, or even criminal negligence that is not justified. so if the evidence bears out. >> stand your ground law. >> stand your ground only applies if you are not the attacker. he was the follower. >> let's go back to her admitting she was lying under oath. >> you told mr. rionda that had you gone to the hospital, correct? >> he asked me did i go to the hospital? i said yeah. >> so you -- i know you had said that earlier to mr. crump and to ms. fulton to give a plausible explanation to them for why you

didn't go to the memorial service or the wake. is that right? >> yes, sir. >> and then when mr. del rionda asked about it, you gave the same answer? >> yes, sir. >> you knew that was a lie? >> yes, sir. >> again, you lied because you wanted to give a plausible answer to ms. fulton as to why you didn't go to the wake. >> yes, sir. >> but on the april 2nd interview, you were under oath. >> yes, sir. >> and you knew that? >> yes, sir. >> and you made a decision because of how difficult the situation is that you were just put in, you decided to lie about going to the hospital rather than say something that might be

painful. >> yes, sir. >> a series of lies. the question, that an excusable lie. >> the truth is, a lot of people amongst us don't have the stomach or heart to attend a wake, a funeral and say i can't go. and come up with lies and excuses. in terms of lies, not a damnable lie. and again, empathy. it does prove that the witness is capable of telling a lie, even when she swears to tell the truth. >> and that's not the only instance. >> no, she actually can't keep much of her story straight. she told different stories during the investigation, on the stand giving different answers to the same question, and, again, this goes -- we can feel sorry for her, we can, but it goes to her credibility and if she is the star witness, supposedly having to prove that

george zimmerman is the agre aggress aggressor, we can't believe what is coming out of her mouth. that's a problem. >> at one point, i couldn't hear trayvon, i could have heard trayvon, i did. they may be small, but cumulatively there are four or five instances. >> i am not saying she's a dream witness. she proved herself to lie and admitted lies on the stand. she is not testifying in a vacuum. you have lots of neighbors and other pieces of evidence that if the prosecution puts it together by the end and say, look, these couple things, whether you believe her, accept a witness, disregard them, or take parts. take the basics that have never changed and a lot of what she said has never, ever changed, the basics, and put it with the other, still end up with criminal liability, whether it's murder or manslaughter, heavy penalties here. >> mr. zimmerman says it's self-defense, and when we hear testimony that his alleged victim is engaging in this kind

of language and thinking in these kind of terms, then it gives credibility to the notion of self-defense. >> he was being followed in the middle of the night while walking home from a store. >> by a cracker. >> that's not just the allegation. >> by a cracker. >> i don't care who is followin. somebody shouldn't have been following him coming home from a store. you see him buying the skittles. >> let meha argue against this. nobody saw who punched who first and george zimmerman had a broken nose, lacerations on his head and when he shot trayvon martin, trayvon martin was on top of him. how do you overcome that? >> i don't think it matters. i'll tell you why. >> tell me after the break. >> later, portions of my interview with george zimmerman last july. what he told me that day that contradicts the prosecution's so-called star witness and then

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>> sean: first of all meter changed from day-to-day. i gt the impression she was coached. that is my impression,

combattive. what did you think? >> depending on the moment she was able to change emotions and change stride and mood and pitch. and so sometimes, you wondered whether some demeanor was truthful or not. because she had a capacity to be sharp and put the defense lawyer back on his heels a little bit and almost control the courtroom a couple times and take wait from the defense lawyer. that is interesting. >> there were good moments. but i think the credibility issue isn't there. >> i thought her bad attitude detracted from her credibility. she's supposed to be trayvon martin's friend. the prosecution wants to paint him as a choir boy. choir boys don't hang out with people who despite authority, she's calling questions retarded and putting the

secretary on his heels so do disrespectful people hang out with other disrespectful people? >> goes back to cracker comment and the n-word. >> i think they're trying to paint him as a young man minding his own business coming home from buying snacks for a 12-year-old child when a man was following him because he wanted to be the one to catch a supposed criminal. >> does someone walk not on the sidewalk but on right under the eves of homes? it's raining. >> sean: i understand that. but there might be confusion. a neighborhood had a lot of crime, then you've got someone out of the rain and there is disspigs on both sides. >> i think he was overzealous. let's say confrontation results from them, let's just

say you believe evidence that he's following them and turns around, and says what are you following me for? and then, george zimmerman says what are you doing here, a fight ensues let's forget who throws the first punch. >> i would tell the jury it isn't. it's because he's fearful of the guy following him. >> sean: here we have the juries that are -- injuries condition sis stent with the story of george zimmerman. >> they're not. >> sean: of course they are. >> you're not painting a picture of justification in terms of trayvon martin striking first. does it not pro individual ability to strike out. at someone. >> apprehension of loss of life? >> there is only deadly force used is by george zimmerman. i don't believe he -- . >> sean: you said earlier -- .

>> look at the injuries. >> the injuries aren't that bad. an inch cut to the head. he got punched hard. >> sean: he says, look, i asked him who is screaming. the answer. >>. >> sean: we heard screams on one recording from a neighbor calling the police. and there has been dispute whose voice that is. was that your voice screaming or trayvon martin's voice. >> that was your voice? >> yes, sir. >> sean: that is his claim is anyone going dispute that? >> let's say it's george zimmerman saying "help". because someone is getting better of you in a fight you cannot take out your gun and shoot them. >> sean: no. no. unless you believe that person is going to kill you. >> yes. >> do you think he was about to die? >> sean: in the civil realm

they suffer a subdearal hematoma and they die. >> he says you're going to die tonight. >> the crux of the case is what george zimmerman believed. >> reason to believe. >> doesn't have to be he was going to get harmed. he had to believe. >> last question for you. last question. with no witness, how did they get to second degree murder? how did they get there? >> if this is the only witness, as they have -- they're trying to have an ear witness based on eye witness testimony, it's difficult, difficult, difficult, to do. and testimony does not help. >> i think the prosecution is doing a great job of proving reasonable doubt for the defense. so far that is what we've got. >> i disagree. i understand why they charge. i don't know they're going to get second degree murder but charge it based on the belief of the evidence it was him on

top and he pulled out his gun and shot. and that so -- evidence i see now of injuries and the fact trayvon was on top of him i don't see he should be found guilty. >> i think from liability. to what degree? i don't know. >> sean: thank you, great panel. coming up next mark furman going to weigh in on the case and later tonight you're looking at proof that a man with ties to radical muslims was invited to the obama white house. and now they've been caught redhanded obama aides are now defending this decision and later tonight rudy giuliani has a message for the president when he joins me live in, studio, as we continue.

so the last thing you heard was some kind of noise like something hitting somebody. >> and trayvon got hit. trayvon got hit. >> you don't know that, do you? >> no. >> you don't know that trayvon got hit. >> because he had -- >> you don't know that trayvon didn't at that moment take his fist and drive it into george zimmerman's face. >> please lower your voice. >> do you? >> so the prosecution's so-called star witness, rachel jeantel claims trayvon martin got hit first with the first punch. i sat down with george zimmerman last july, and he told me a completely different story. watch this. >> at this point, trayvon is -- all of a sudden, you turn around, and there he was. >> yes, sir. >> what happened next? >> he asked me what my problem

was. >> expletive problem? >> yes, sir. and i was wearing a rain jacket, and i put my cell phone in my jacket pocket as opposed to my jeans pocket, where i normally keep it, and i immediately went to grab my phone to this time call 911 instead of the nonemergency, and when i reach into my pant pocket, because that's where i keep it out of habit, it wasn't there, and i was shocked. i looked up, punched me, broke my nose. >> one shot? >> yes. >> he said to you, you have expletive, you have a problem. those are the exact words. >> do you have a problem? what's your problem? >> what's your problem? and you said to him, i don't have a problem. >> yes, sir. >> you reach for your phone. >> i reached for it, as i was saying. no, i don't have a problem. >> at that point, you got hit?

>> he was already in arm's length of me. >> yes, sir. >> and that's whthe punch that broke your nose? >> yes, sir. >> the difference between jeantel and zimmerman is that zimmerman is there. who is more credible? mark fuhrman? >> absolutely. the prosecution's star witness, at every opportunity, she was trying to interject something that she never told anybody ever before, or enhance that she thought or should be there. and, you know, the credibility of this witness, when we talked today on the radio show, i mean, it is so low, i'm not even sure how the jury could consider this witness. >> what do you think, rod? >> i agree with mark to a certain degree. we also need to understand, sean, it's not jeantel on trial there. it's zimmerman on trial, and as

a result, we need to understand we just began this trial and there is a lot more witnesses and evidence. we're not at the point where we should convict nor quit zimmerman. we have a long way to go. >> i agree with you. but give me some evidence, something we know in the public at this point that gets us to second degree murder, because the injuries are consistent with zimmerman's story. >> that's excellent question. we need to wait to hear to the lead investigator, from the sanford police department. he has a lot of direct physical evidence, which could actually make this case a case of second degree murder. >> what could the physical evidence be? we know that trayvon was on top of zimmerman, right? >> we know trayvon was on top of zimmerman. zimmerman came prepared for a gun battle. we don't know if trayvon came prepared for a gun battle. >> wait, wait, wait. prepared for a gun battle.

he has a license to carry per t permit. i have a license carry permit, i never want to get in a gun battle, ever. >> you can't project intent by something that's a lawful act. no different than zimmerman following somebody in his condo complex is not a crime, so you can't make that intent. the intent and the act would come when somebody has a choice to form an intent at that moment. when you look at this whole situation, the lead investigator is not going to forensically dispute zimmerman's statement. they are consistent. the only thing i think the lead investigator will be able to offer is statements that zimmerman made at the walk through or at the station, but i have a feeling they are much more consistent that the prosecution's case, that zimmerman lied or trayvon martin did not do certain things that

zimmerman said he did. >> should the defense allow zimmerman to take the stand? >> absolutely. zimmerman should take the stand, sean. and the reason is because zimmerman is the person on trial. let us, let the people hear from the man himself that's being accused. we know that trayvon martin is not here. he can't take the stand, he won't have this opportunity. >> i -- i did the only interview with him. >> right. right. he needs to be in front of that jury, sean. absolutely. >> mark, what do you think? >> well, i think he should testify, it's self-defense case, and that's what is expected. the jury expects it, everybody expects it in the courtroom, but that being said, first they need to get to a prima face ya fasaa let's get the prima facie case

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kids can't go to the white house, but he can? >> this is completely impossible to understand. why you would have this person in the white house, talking to people on the national security council, a person of the vice president of an organization that calls for the destruction of the state of israel, an organization whose president has advocated killing israelis and killing americans, and he is the vice president of the group. so we have somebody sitting in the white house, part of an organization that has advocade the killing of americans. what is going on in the white house? what planet are they on? >> i -- i got to be honest. >> what could they learn from this man? >> nothing. this is scary this is like the most radical people at the highest levels of our government. >> could it be -- could it be incompetence? did they not check him out properly? >> there is google, wikipedia, something. >> the president found out about

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really your honor contr really under control of iran. and if we're not careful, we'll have an afghanistan the same way. >> syria? >> the president has waited so long with syria, we'll follow rather than lead, we're in a situation where there almost isn't a good choice, so we're going to see iran having tremendous amount of control over iraq, where we've lost so many lives to liberate iraq. control over syria. if we're not careful, they will have a great deal of control over afghanistan as well. >> are you saying the entire middle east will be radicalized. >> every single thing you look at foreign policy, america is in much greater danger. our relationship with china is worse. the reset of our relationship with russia is a joke. the reality, we reset it, and things are much more dangerous. the middle east is considerably more dangerous.

we've got this guy snowden who is a fugitive. china won't give him to us. russia won't give him to us and ecuador and cuba are just waiting to stick it in our face. >> if you were president, i think i know you well enough. fine, you play games, i will deploy the missile sites in poland and the czech republic. >> he and hillary clinton gave up the nuclear defense of a lot of eastern europe in order to reset the relationship with russia. this has become a total failure, they never, never should have done that without -- first of all, theyer in should have done it but you should have gotten concessions in advance. they gave away their leverage and now they have no leverage. putin looks at them and laughs at them. when i watch putin sitting there, i see a man, head of the kgb, very tough, strong, probably totally amoral human

being, but tough as nails, and looks at obama and says i can roll all over this guy. >> and we look weak. >>ith not just obama that looks weak, the united states of america looks weak. >> maybe they could have learned a thing or two when you kicked out of our country. >> bullies and tyrants only respect strength. i kicked arafat out. >> didn't take the money from the arab princeling or whatever the thek he was, to use it to try to criticize america's relationship with israel. said keep your $10 million. people who are bullies and tyrants respect only a respect of strength. when they see weakness, they roll all over you, and president obama has shown a large a. weakness. the tea party equals the threat that radical islam poses

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by the tea party the last number of years, doing everything they can to throw a monkey wrench into any form of government. >> the placards up there, the hitler mustaches, the black face superimposed on the face of barack obama. >> i think they -- you be the judge. symbols like that at a town meeting on health care. >> despite lack of evidence of tea party groups with the president. republicans are using it as the latest weapon in the war against the black man in the white house. >> real concerns, let us all remember who the real enemy is, and the real enemy is the chief -- >> t. >> aren't they trying to steal the election with violence, intimidation and fearmongering.

thuggish behavior from the right is erupting all over the country. >> i thought he got canned. >> joining me now is dana bash. >> who knew, sean, that people who show up with lawn chairs and coolers full of capri sun packs could be so terrifying and intimidating. if you adhere a limited government and adherence to the substitution. i wonder how many of those 26%, 29%, work for the irs. >> food point. >> i think it is 26%. and you can get 20% of people to say almost anything. a poll 20% of republicans think that obama is the anti christ, for example. i won't read too much into what democrats think. but the tea party has been unfairly demonized, no question about that, and i think people who follow them closely, and

understand what they are really about will realize they are about limited government. i don't agree with them, but they are not what they've been portrayed as by a lot of democratic leaders. >> two specials now with the horrible treatment of black conservatives in america. let me give you the latest example. i ask again, is tom brokaw and matt lauer, proud of their news network, saying this about clarence thomas. >> clarence thomas' actions, though consistent and tragic to me, are even more so in light of the bulk of decisions he rendered in the name of a judicial vote on the supreme court. a symbolic jew has invited a memet meta phoric hitler to genocide his own people. >> what's your reaction to that? >> i'm at the point where

really? i am just at the point where i'm throwing up my hands and asking really, especially when it concerns clarence thomas. a democrat in minnesota who called him an uncle tom on twitter and turned around and had to apologize for it. this white anglo saxon protestant knew more about what it is to be black than clarence thomas growing up in the segregated south. and i do disagree with kirsten a little bit this is what democrat voters have been hearing, not just from the media, but you heard the speaker of the house, nancy pelosi saying we're basically nazis, people on competing networks that nobody watches sit here and demonize the tea party. day in, day out. the thing that gets me the most, the 26% that people who strongly approve of barack obama's job approval and think that the tea party is a bigger threat than

islamic terrorism. occupy cleveland, had five men charged with plotting to blow up with the cuyahoga bridge out there. par with the course and only ended up with 2% of fear. this is a media fabrication. >> i'm not surprised -- i would frankly expect a higher percentage of democrats to disapprove of the tea party because they are so demonized. what's more troubling, it's equated here with islamic terrorism, and there is this idea pushed by a lot of people on the left, that the real threat to us are these alleged right-wing extremists, operating like al qaeda, that's not really -- >> that's important. >> i'm set up, it's really disgusting, despicable. clarence thomas, his entire professional career on the

supreme court had to put up with the garbage. >> it is racist. >> completely racist. >> the left tolerates it. >> no, it's patronizing, and i think that -- i'm in the a person who agrees with it. >> i know you don't. >> you know, but it is absolutely out of bounds i think. >> thank you, both. good to see you. welcome. >> thanks. >> tomorrow night, a special show focusing on a controversial documentary about the cost of amnesty especially in light of the bill passed in the senate today. a sneak peek of that as we continue. uh-oh! guess what day it is?? guess what day it is! huh...anybody? julie! hey...guess what day it is?? ah come on, i know you can hear me. mike mike mike mike mike... what day is it mike? ha ha ha ha ha ha! leslie, guess what today is? it's hump day. whoot whoot!

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