>> neil: okay, how many times have i said it. we're not red or blue here, we're green. your green and who is spending and who is wasting us. that is us. so imagine myself when i discovered the irs is copying us in reverse. what we are practicing what we are preaching the taxman is preaching but he is not practicing. that is not there. that is not balanced and i'm not a lawyer but i think that is illegal. welcome everybody, i'm neil cavuto. and imitation may be the sincerest form of flattery but unless irs open up bake shops of my name they are selling them in cheap ways.

irs was going after conservative groups and liberal groups, too. never mind that doesn't make him any less than a big bully. how many liberals, let's say not many. according to the agency's watchdog only a handful of groups were targeted by the irs compared to hundreds of conservative ones. only those that had words like occupy were reportedly even keystone in their name that could lead a non-lawyer, that would be me, there might have been an agenda to all of this. to target those who might be unfriendly to the administration, but again enough of that. i want to think about this. media that blocks the irs story because now they have some ridiculous cover to say, this really wasn't an irs conservative witch hunt. like that matters. irs was still on the hunt. not over the numbers those groups were putting on those forms, but who those groups were filing those

forms. their data didn't get the irs's attention, they did. their views did. i don't care if the ratio is 99 to one, an agency to go after anyone. focus on the overtop behavior. an agency that is supposed to be about spreadsheets and they are going to spread this sheet? this sheet? okay, that is it. [ laughter ] to our panel, it is yours dagen will be back next week and she missed it. to charles payne, what do you think? >> i find it interesting can best option is claim incompetency. >> neil: i build a career on it, go ahead. >> and this is targeting. it was targeting and for

the irs not to come clean underscores people why people should be afraid. but the media that is cheering us on and that is trying to put this disingenuous, you take away one group of people, rights, you take away your own rights. >> neil: it's hardly to cover we went after liberals, too, but you went after other groups not on what the numbers they were putting out but who they were. that is the problem. >> i hate to engage on the argument. but the details on what they actually did, they pull up fiays on a list. they didn't actually stop them from getting the tax exempt status or lose their file the other group. >> neil: approaching a body cavity search. >> somebody has to go to jail here. i think people need to get very upset about this. if you think the irs is

eventually going to come for you, you are mistaken. >> neil: speaking of going to jail, gasparino what do you think? >> it's always the italians. listen. my feelings on this, i think they should apply the law equally. i have a problem with any group getting tax exempt status. obviously political groups. they target conservatives. here is thing i would like to know the liberals they are targeting. if they are equating the tea party groups, right of center like the far left, the communist party of america group, that is bizarre comparison. occupy wall street, have you ever been down to occupy wall street rally? >> neil: why don't you think they are representing

it accurately? >> the point is valid. either this is acceptable behavior on the irs and it isn't, and it doesn't matter what you or i think about the political leanings of these groups groups. if it is wrong and i don't think wrong, neil is the media, too. the media is not leaving the story alone. >> neil: it did lose a lot and it was like a collective relief. ben, the media almost -- collectively seemed relieved that maybe liberals were involved. not to the degree you think or to the ringing kind of questioning, but that we grew to knew but that is release? >> there is a giant elephant in the room here.

which is the conservative groups are targeted, the head of the public service employees union is a huge leftist. is a great pal of the president of united states. they hate hate the conservatives. the questions that are asked, melissa to the contrary notwithstanding, were extremely burdensome and much delayed to get their tax exempt atus. there was hearing by congressman issa that people were reading out the questions the irs was asking them and they were overwhelmingly burdensome. >> i'm in the process of proposing a book about this. that is what they saying. they are targeting liberal groups, it's not just conservatives. some people that might publish this county. >> it could be they don't like you.

>> most people don't think of it as that. >> you know why it won't sell because people probably aren't as interested as you are. >> they should be if they are not coming for you now, they will eventually. >> excuse i'm getting back. it's bipartisan is what i'm hearing from people. it's not just conservatives. >> neil: it could be the publisher. >> sirs going to sue you? >> they are going to target you even more. >> when you take liberties from people it hurts everyone so anyone that is looking the other way. we should get back to the tea party was deliberately targeted, deliberately pushed back right before the rush to the white house. let's not put the sense of a trial on this. i want to find out. >> we are no closer to find

out where it started. in the first place, have to find out where it started to make sure it doesn't happen again. under the hatch act those people could go to jail. >> nothing ever gets, benz gets traced back to obama, nsa surveillance doesn't get traced back to obama. somehow no roads lead to obama. the wall, political people have put around obama is just incredible. >> there has to be a better solution, the fact that lois lerner is on paid vacation. >> simple solution to all this. let's start reporting. at some point... the thus, we should be pushing this issue and doing the

reporting. >> neil: we are, but i can't carry america by myself. >> that is direct line to the white house. >> neil: obviously a burden you don't want to share with me. what is going on here? >> i would only point out that you are not the only one and charlie is too busy pushing book proposals. by the way, i am filled with admiration how you are trying to sell a book on this program. >> my book july 1, circle of friends. >> correct me if i'm wrong, i can't remember which the justice department or congress is investigating this. am i winning about that? >> neil: i'm asking you to look at it. you read a lot of media.

ben stein, read the coverage it got a lot more tired when there was insinuation that a liberal groups were included. then they seemed to have covered, well this isn't a hatchet job on conservatives. >> it was an attack on conservatives. this is so obvious. it's been published and employees union along with mr. obama going after conservatives. it's a joke and media is playing along with it and, of course, it's going to happen. these are incredibly obvious. there is a giant elephant in the room, political partisanship. >> neil: we're going to keep reporting it. any time an agency uses the full power to go after anyone it's bad. and if people are going to

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dozens treated for heat illness and mercury is expected to hit 128 in death valley, california. not far from the world record high 134 degrees. widespread protesting in egypt in the leadup to anti-government demonstrations tomorrow marking one year since mohammed morsi took office. they are warning americans to steer clear of the country. that is after the death of a 21-year-old college student kid killed yesterday by photographing protests there. now back to cavuto. i'm arthel nevil. >> neil: don't look now but they are looking at you and not just the nsa. new healthcare law is making a data hub of personal information from social security and size of paycheck that charlie plans

to sell the number of books and size of your family. does this worry you? >> government knows too much about us already. this goes across all parts of government. they know too much about good people and bad people. they knew about the terrorists before 9/11. they through they were practicing flying lessons and not learning how to land the plane. they don't do enough for the bad people. >> neil: they are going to have the same information that the irs has and other departments already have, a lot of people now have it? f people have it. we heard of money grabs and land grabs, this is an information grab. there are no rules attached. this is how things get messed up. anyone will get their hands on this information to use it any way possible. benchmarks, they had a tip on the bombers.

they so busy gathering information. >> what is discretionary about they will share it with outside contractors. >> anyone that is working on my house, i'm screwed. [ laughter ] >> no, i'm serious. they are going share it with outside contractors. it's your tax returns, your social security information, email, phone number, i don't want that sharing with outside contractors, i'll get solicited all the time. >> i never get solicited, how come. >> neil: they are afraid to come to your door. they are scared of you. >> i would say there was wonderful book written by george orwell about this. this is big government collecting everything they can on us. every single thing. by the way, by the nature the government is

totalitarian. >> neil: adam loves the government, you are fine with this? >> no, i'm not all fine with it. i'll make two quick observations. charles is right about something, charles payne. >> this is our concern and regulations have to be written very carefully. when i see my irs return or my birth date and family's income, we need to be careful about that. i want to point out, it's not just government. >> neil: do you want it there or not? >> i want it there but.... >> but to participate in the insurance. >> neil: don't you see where this is going? >> all i'm saying corporations have this data

too. >> it's empowering one central agency. >> i'll give you one reason and that is because federal employees owed $3.5 billion in taxes. these were people at post office employees, everyone else owed taxes, wages weren't being garnished because the right hand didn't talk to the left hand. >> neil: now, you shall just showing off. [ laughter ] >> i say we yell when the right hand is doesn't know what the left hand is doing. >> then they screw it up and put it in one place. >> neil: you've got a call on line for the irs something about last year's insurance and new food tax from the food police have some stomachs turning. >> i love chocolate, but i can't eat it because then

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according to a new study, effective way to fight obesity is a tax. sales for these foods, junk foods go down. well, by extension waistlines, what do you think? >> i think it's ridiculous. it's not the dollar menu that lures me into mcdonald's, it's the quarter pounder. in and out with shake.

that is not what it is about. >> and sin tax is right. it's another way to gorge out of money. it's ridiculous. redistribution of accountability but i wouldn't put it past them. california will be the first ones up. >> if i'm dying, i'm going san pedro. >> in and out. >> i like it. i don't think we should be subsidizing people that want to kill themselves. listen we put sin taxes on all sorts of things, sin taxes on alcohol. >> neil: took a little while on link up with al. >> mcdonald's is fattening. >> charlie is right. science is obviously correct, but this is politically infeasible. >> neil: we have a history

of doing it. as assanine as this is, there is a precedent for doing it again and again, what do you think of it? >> i think if you go into a mcdonald's, hard working people trying to get a bite to eat before they do the rest of the day's work, you would be punishing those people. they don't need it. people that are going to mcdonald's don't need to be punished. >> neil: very well put. >> nonorganic foods, artificial coloring. government is fantastic at doing it. >> we're talking about mcdonald's. we're not talking about mcdonald's. [ talking over each other ]

>> free market capital here. >> how about a tax on alcohol? >> i'm against taxes period. i'm against taxes period. putting taxes on anything to try to prevent people from using fails. >> mcdonald's.... >> how can you' indicate alcohol with mcdonald's? >> neil: melissa is going, i do want her back. you can see me on fox news and catch her. whatever you a wanted to do just watch espn. . that's why i like glucerna shakes. they have slowly digestible carbs to help minimize blood sugar spikes. [ male announcer ] glucerna. helping people with diabetes find balance.

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