>> eric: twitter mee me -- i guess that's what you do. >> jamie: are you really not following me, yet? join us! see you next time. shannon bream, live from washington starts now. >> shannon: against the backdrop of grave concerns about nelson mandela's health, we are awaiting a speech from president obama, sitting in the city where robert kennedy made a speech in the darkest days of apartheid, the president is expected to highlight nelson mandela's legacy and bringing about changes once thought impossible. this will wrap up the first trip to south africa as president. ed henry is traveling with the president and is live in capetown. hello. >> reporter: great to see you, shannon. this is the hallmark speech of the week-long visit to this continent of africa, billed that way by the white house because the president will be at the university of capetown, where robert f. kennedy gave a speech

on ripples of hope. they are trying to suggest that the nelson mandela legacy can provide inspiration throughout this contine the president took his wife, daughter, mother-in-law and niece as well to robin island, where nelson mandela spent 18 years as captivity as a political prisoner. they saw the cell where he cent so much of his time. the quarry, the lime quarry where he spent countless hours, back-breaking work, while he was in prison. the president at one point, telling the media, no shackles or cell it match the strength of human spirit. he wants to bring that message, we are told to the speech, as well. he will announce a $7 billion initiative to bring more electric power to sahara africa. after the speech, he gallon on

to tanzania for the final stop in the week-long journey. it just so happy -- so happens that former president george w. bush and laura bush will be there as well. the two first ladies -- laura bush and michelle obama will team together for a fight against scpaidz malaria. there has been speculation that the two presidents will get together, but that judgesr is not confirmed. but the white house is billing it as bipartisanship for africa. >> shannon: thank you. massive crowds are gathering in egypt for another day of protest. this is the culmination of a week of demonstrations by supporters and opponents. so far, at least seven people have been kill in the protests, including an american student.

these scenes reminding many of the egyptian revolution that overthrew then president hosni mubarak. there are new developments in the case of the justice department's aggressive leak into the fox correspondent james rosen. after testifying that he had never heard of the possibility of prosecuting a journalist for releasing information, days later, they admitted that attorney general eric holder was deeply involved in the rosen case. attorneys have called on holder to clarify what seems to be a conflict and there was a private meeting on friday. the house judiciary chairman is live to talk about the meeting and a whole lot more. >> great to be with you. >> shannon: are you satisfied -- i know there are limits on what you can tell us -- it was behind closed doors. >> the first step was to get the attorney general to answer the

three pages of written questions. he adopted the subordinance answers and we said, no, we want to have the attorney return. he did agree to answer and he did answer the questions about a week ago. on friday, he came to the hill and met with myself and jim sensenbrenner and bobby scott, the reason for the meeting being private was that we wanted to ask about the accusations of mr. rosen being a co-conspirator with mr. kim. mr. kim is under indictment and in the process of that trial -- hasn't take place, but will take place, i assume, sometime in the future. in order for him to answer questions about a matter currently under prosecution, he needed to meet with us privately. we will issue a full report on this, probably within a week or so. and we will detail our concerns about how the attorney general's testimony collides clearly with what was done in the rosen case,

accusing a... a chief washington correspondent of fox news of being a co-conspirator in a major espionage case. there are also concerns about whether this is standard operating procedure for the justice department to accuse reporters in order to get at their emails and do their investigation. leakers. they do need to do the investigation, with regard to langs, no question about that, but]añ6 they need to follow the rules, including the privacy act, which says that an individual has to be a criminal in order to get the information. reporters are not criminal when is they receive informs from a leaker and then publish it under appropriate circumstances, which in my opinion is what was done in the rosen case. so that's where we are am we will then follow that report up with a hearing on the whole matter. so this is simply one step in a process to examine what's been done in that case. we will hold another hearing

with regard to the nsa leaks, also, very, very concerning about what is being done in that matter. we need to see whether the government is, indeed, following the rules and we need to see, whether it is worth this invasion of individual's privacy because obviously, national security and preventing terrorist attacks are important. but so are the constitutional rights and the privacy of american citizens jierksr. >> shannon: quickly before we leave the issue withic holder, a colleague from texas, louis gohmert said the private meeting wasn't enough. you mentioned another hearing. will that involve him testifying again? >> it's not determined. but in my opinion, the most important thing is for us to take the facts that we have and publish the report and then determine the facts. >> shannon: are you convinced

that there is a balance here? >> i think it is important foritous look at whether or not the privacy is adequately protected and also whether this massive gathering of metadata with the phone records is the primary contributor to preventing terrorist attacks or whether it is the other surveillance with more detail and warrants of getting informs on the prism prison under section 202 of the laws -- we need to make sure that gatheringitata and saving it is being done in a way that is precking u.s. citizens and is cost effective. this may be an enormous waste of money and an invasion of privacy that is in no way justified. so we have to examine this matter from that standpoint. we will hold a separate hearing on that, unrelated to the holder hearing. >> shannon: a date for the nsa hearing? >> we haven't finished the report yet and we want to get

that done first. >> shannon: thank you for coming in. >> glad to be with you. >> shannon: president obama doesn't want to start wheeling and dealing regard edward snowden. snowden is believed to be waiting in a moscow airport. steve centanni has the latest. hello, steve. >> reporter: drifting in diplomatic limbo, he is finding few friends here in washington. the nsa leaker is apparently still at the moscow airport without a u.s. airport. one official said that president putin should be dealt with ficial firmly. >> this is a direct slap in the face to the united states of america. we should be now, i hope, finally realizing what vladimir putin is -- he's an old kgb and he dreams of the restoration of the russian empire.

>> reporter: does he plan to make ecuador his final destination? some are suggesting that that south american country be put on notice. >> we ought to be very clear with ecuador, if they take snowden, they are to pay a price. we give them $10 million in foreign aid -- that's tntd so little to a small country. >> reporter: as for the leaker, house leader nancy pelosi says that snowden broke the law and it's fine with her if he's stuck in a moscow airport. >> i think that anybody thought he was a hero to begin with, now that he's threatening in any event to share information with russia and china -- if in fact he has any information, i think that should disabuse anybody of the notion that he is a hero. >> reporter: he does have one high-profile supporter, the man behind wikileaks. >> he has acted in a matter to draw attention to a very serious problem in the united states,

where... without the will of congress and without the will of the american population, we now have a state within a state, we have the transnational surveillance apparatus. >> reporter: and the german magazine reports that snowden uncovered u.s. spying of the european union offices, both in the united states in washington and new york and in brussels across the atlantic. e.u. officials say they are shocked and a normr german prosecutor says he plans to investigate. >> shannon: covering this story, a lot has been made over edward snowden. his dad says he hopes he will come back to the u.s. and thinking that that may be. although he has set out stringent conditions for coming back and for doing that. what is your impression in covering the story about whether he is helping or hurts his case, now that he continues to line up with countries that are not exactly our strongestality lies. >> >> reporter: the u.s. wants him back. they want to know what if

anything he might have told another country, like russia or china. that's a major concern. that's a national security concern of the u.s. government, above and beyond when he has released in terms of surveillance. we are learning some are more about that. we had the telephone surveillance and the internet and we are learning there is spying of the european union. so the type of thing he has uncovered is expanding. some in congress saz say he should never have release good of this. some are hailing him as a hero for doing just that. >> shannon: steve centanni with the latest. thank you very much. >> reporter: you bet. [applause] >> thank you. [cheers and applause] >> shannon: the president ginghis remarks in capetown and

to speak about african policy, speaking on trade, development, investment and partnerships. we expect that he will highlight the legacy of nelson mandela, who remains critically ill in south africa. this is the president's first trip to south africa as president. he will wrap up the trip with this speech, let's listen in live. [speaking foreign language] see, i have been practicing. how's it? did i leave anybody out? [cheers and applause] all right. i didn't want to leave anybody out here. i want to thank mike chancellor, max price, who is here, as well

as archbishop, it is wonderful to have them in attendance. i am so happy to be here today. it is wonderful to see all of these outstanding young people. i just had the honor of going to robin island with michelle and our two daughters this afternoon. this was my second time -- i had the chance to visit back in in 2006. but there was something different about bringing my children. malia's now 15. sasha is 12. and seeing them stand within the walls that once surrounded nelson mandela... i knew this was an experience that they would never forget. i imu that they now appreciated a little bit more the sacrifices

that abeeba and others have made for freedom. but what i also know is that because they have had a chance to visit south africa for a second time now, they also understand that mandela's spirit could never be imprisoned because his legas is here for all to see. it's in this auditorium, young people, black, white... indian. everything in between. >> living and learning together in a south africa that is free, in peace. obviously today, mandela's health weighs heavily on our hearts.

like billions all over the world, i and the american people have drawn strength from the example of this extraordinary leader and the nation that he changed. nelson mandela showed us that one man's courage can move the world. and he calls on us to make choices that reflect not our fears but our hopes. in our own lives and in the lives of our communities and our countries. and that's what i want to speak to all of you about today. some of you may be aware of this, butohlq:÷ i actually tooky first step in the political life because of south africa. [applause] >> this is true. i was the same age as some of

you -- 19 years old. my whole life ahead of me. i was going to school on a campus in california... not quite as pretty as this one. but similar. and i must confess, i was not always focused on my studies. there were a lot of distractions. and i enjoyed those distractions.[ and as the son of an african father and a white american mother, the diversity of america was in my blood. but i had never cared much for politics. i didn't think it mattered to me. i didn't think i could make a difference. and like many young people, i thought that cynicism -- a certain ironic detachment was a sign of wisdom and sophistication.

but then... i learninged what was happening here in south africa. and two representatives came to our college and spoke. i spent time hearing their stories. and i learned about the courage of those who waged the defiance campaign and the brutality level against innocent men, women and childreney sharpsville to soweto. i started the leadership and the words of biko. and the example of mandela. i knew that while brave people were imprisoned just off those shores on robip iland, my own government and the united states was not standing on their side. that's why i got involved in

what was known as the divestment movement in the united states. it was the first time i ever attached myself to a cause. it was the first time i ever gave a speech. it was only 2 minutes long. i was a warmup act at a rally we were holding, demanding that our college divest from apartheid south africa sav. i got up on stage and started to make my speech. as a bit of political theater, some people came out with glasses that looked like security officers and they dragged me off the stage. [chuckles] >> fortunately, there are no records of this speech. but i remember struggling to express the anger and the passion that)

moral clarity of freedom fighters an ocean away. i'll be honest with you, when i was done, i did not think that i had made any difference. i was even a little embarrassed. i thought to myself: what's a bunch of university kids doing in california that is somehow going to make a difference? it felt too distant from what people were going through in places like soweto. but looking back, as i look at that 19-year-old young man... i am... i am more forgiving of the fact that the speech might not have been that great...

because i know now that something inside me was stirring at the time, something important. and that was the belief that i could be part of something bigger than myself. that my own salvation was bound up with those of others. that's what bobby kennedy expressed far better than i ever could when he spoke here at the university of cape town in 1966. he said, each time a man stands up for an idea or acts to improve the lot of others or strikes outp?),é)n he sendseb"ñ forth a tiny ripplf hope and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy, those ripples build a

current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance. now at this time world was very different on that june day in 1966 when bobby kennedy spoke those words. manned mandela faced many more years as a prisoner. apartheid was entrenched in this land. in the united states, the victories of the civil rights movement were still uncertain. in fact on the very day that kennedy spoke here, the american civil rights leader james meredith was shot in mississippi where he was marching to inspire blacks to register to vote. those

inconceivable to people at that time that less than 50 years later, an african-american president might address an integrated audience at south africa's oldest university and that this same university would have conferred an honorary degree to a president nelson mandela. would have seemed impossible [applause]qo.g that's the power that comes from acting on our ideas. that's what mandela understood. but it wasn'tkon just the gianf history who brought about this change. think of the many millions of acts of conscience that were part of that effort. think about how many voices were

raised against injustice over the years. in this country. in the united states. around the world. think of how many times ordinary people pushed against those walls of oppression and resistance. the violence and the indignities that they suffered. the quiet courage that they sustained. think of how many ripples of hope it took to build a wave that would eventually come stream. so mandela's life, like kennedy's life, like gandhi's life, like the life of all of those who fought to bring about a new south africa, or a more just america...

they stand as a challenge to me, but more importantly, they stand as a challenge to your generation. because they tell you that your voice matters. your ideals, your willingness to act on those ideals. your choices can make a difference. and if there is any country in the world that shows the power of human beings to effect change, this is the one. you have shown us how a prisoner can become a president. have you shown us how bitter adversaries can reconcile. have you confronted crimes of hatred and intolerance with dispriewght love and you wrote into your constitution the human rights that sustain freedom. those are only the most publicized aspects of south africa's transformation.

because alongside south africa's political struggle, other battles have been waged as well to improve the lives of those who for far too long have been denied economic opportunities and social justice. you know, during my last journey here in 2006, what impressedded me so much was the good works of people on the ground, teaching children, caring for the sick, bringing jobs to those in need. in a township eye am still working on some of these things -- [stumbling over a word]. >> women who were live with hiv in a time back in 2006 where there were still some challenges in terms of the politicses around hiv and aids, here in south africa. but they were on the ground, struggling to keep their families together, helping each

other, working on behalf of each other. in soweto, i met people striving to carry forward the legacy of hector peterson. at the rosa parks library in pretoria, i was struck by the energy of student who is wanted to capture this moment of promise for south africa. and this is a moment of great promise. south africa is one of the world's economic centers. obviously, you can see it here in cape town. in the countedry that saw the first human heart transplant, new breakthroughs are being made in the treatment of hiv-aids. i was just talking to your voice chancellor, people come to this university from over 100 countries to study and teach. in america, we see the reach of your culture from freshly ground

concerts. [laughter] [applause] >> the nandos, a couple of blocks from the white house [applause] >> thanks to the first world cup ever held on this continent, the world now knows the sound of the but zuvilla. i am not sure that's the greatest gift that south africa ever gave... [laughter] but progress is also rippled across the african continent. you know, from senegal to maloui, democracy has weathered strong challenges. many of the fastest growing economies in the world are here

nafrica, where there is an historic shift taking place. from poverty to a growing mason middle class, fewer people are dying of preventible disease. more people have access to health care. more farmers are getting their products to market at fair prices. from microfinance products to stock traders to cell phone entrepreneurs in nairobi, there is an energy here that can't be denied. africa rising. we know this progress, though, rests on a fragile foundation. we know that progress is uneven. across africa, the same institutions that should be the back bone of democracy can all too often be infected with the rot of corruption.

the same technology that enables record profits sometimes means widening a canyon of inequality. the same interconnection that binds our faiths makes all of africa vulnerable to the undertow of conflict. so there is no question that africa is on the move. but it is rcht moving fast enough for the child still languishing in poverty in forgotten townships. it is not moving fast enough for the protester who is beaten in herarra or the woman who is raped in eastern congo. we have more work to do because these africans must not be left behind. and that's where all of you come in. the young people of africa. it's like previous generations, have you choices to make. you get to decide where the

future lies. happening about it. over 60% of africans are under 35 years old. so demographics means young people are going to be determining the fate of this continent. and this country. you have time and numbers on your side. you will be making decisionses long after politicians like me have left the scene. i can promise you this, the world will be watching what decisions you make. the world will be watching what you do. because one of the wonderful things that is happening is, where people used to only see suffering and conflict in africa, cannel now, they are seeing opportunity -- forç resources, for investment, for partnership, for influence.

governments and businesses from around the world are sizing up the continent, and they are making decisions themselves about where to invest their own time and their own energy. as i said yesterday in a town hall meeting up in johannesburg, that's a good thing. we want all countries -- china -- india, brazil, turkey turkey -- europe, america, we want everybody paying attention to what is going on here because it speaks to your progress. i have traveled to afquaon this -- africa on this trip because my bet is on the young people who are the heartbeat of africa's story. i am betting on all of you. as president of the united states, i believe that my own

nation will benefit enormously if you reach your full potential. if prosperity is broadly shared here in africa, that middle class will be an enormous market for our goods. if strong democracies take root, that will enable our people and businesses to draw closer to yours. if peace prevails over war, we will all be more secure. and if the dignity of the individual is upheld across africa, then i believe americans will be more free as well because i believe that none of us are fully free when others in the human family remain shackled by poverty or disease or oppression. now america's been involved in africa for decades.

but we are moving beyond the simple provision of assistance, foreign aid, to a new model of partnership between america and africa. a partnership of equals that focuses on your capacity to solve problems and your capacity to grow. our efforts focus on three areas that shape our lives, opportunity, democracy and peace. so first off, we want a partnership that impowers africans to access greater opportunity. in their own lives, in their communities and for their countries. as the largest economy on the continent, south africa is part of a trend that extends from south to north, east to west. more and more african economies are poised to take off. and increased trade and

investment from the united states has the potential to accelerate these trends, creating new jobs on both sides of the atlantic. i am calling for america to up our game. we are bringing together business leaders from america to africa to deepen our engagement. we are going tholaunch new trade missions from investments back home. we will launch an effort to renew the african growth and africa initiative%a/r expand our ties across the continent because we want to unleash the power of entrepreneurship and markets to create opportunity here inú africa. it was interesting, yesterday at the town hall meeting with a number of young people -- first three questions had to do with trade. because there was a recognition these young people said, i want

to start -- i want to start something. i want to build something. then i want to sell something. now, to succeed, these efforts have to connect to something bigger. and and for america, this isn't just numbers on a balance sheet or the resources that can be taken out of the ground, we believe that societies and economies only advance as far as individuals are free to carry them forward. just as freedom cannot exist when people are imprisoned for their political views, true opportunity cannot exist when people are imprisoned by sickness, hunger or darkness. so the question we have been asking ourselves is what will it take to empower individual africans? for one thing, we believe that countries have to have the power to feed themselves. so instead of shipping food to africa, we are now helping millions of small farmers in

africa make new of new technologies and farm more land. through a new alliance of governments in the private sector, we are investing billions of dollars in agriculture. that grows more crops, brings more food to market, gives farmers better prices and helps lift 50 million people out of poverty in a decade. an end to famine, a thriving african agricultural industry. that's what opportunity looks like. that's what we want to build with you. we believe the countries have to have the power to prevent illness and care for the sick. our efforts to combat malaria and tropical illness can lead to an achievable goal ending mild and maternal deaths from preventible disease. already, our commitment to fight hiv-aids has saved millions and allows us to imagine what was

once unthinkable, an aids-free generation. and while america will continue to provide millions of dollars in support, we can't make progress without african partners. i am proud by the end of my presidency, south africa has determined it will be the first african country to fully manage its hiv care and treatment program [applause] >> that's an enormous achievement. healthy mothers, healthy children, strong public health systems -- that's what opportunity looks like. and we believe that nations must have the power to connect their people to the promise of the 21st century. access to electricity is fundamental to opportunity in this age. it's the light that children

study by, the energy that allows an idea to be transformed interest a real business. it's the life line for families to meet their most basic needs. and it's the connection that is needed to plug africa into the grid of the global economy. you have to have power. and yet, two-thirds of the population in sub-suharan africa lacks access to power and the percentage is much higher for those who don't live in the cities. today, i am proud to announce a new initiative -- we have been dealing with agriculture and with health. now we are going to talk about power -- power africa. a new initiative that will double access to power in sub-saharan africa. double it [applause] it>> we are going to start by

investing $7 billion in u.s. government resources. we are going to partner with the private sector who themselves have committed more than $9 billion in investment and in partnership with african nations, we are going to develop new sources of energy. we will reach more households, not just in cities, but in villages and on farms. we will expand access for those who currently live off the power grid. and we will support clean energy to protect our planet and combat climate change [applause] >> i light where curveball there is darkness. the energy needed to lift people out of poverty. that's what opportunity looks like. so this is america's vision. a partnership with africa that unleashes growth and the

potential of every citizen, not just a few at the very top. and this is achievable. there is nothing that i have outlined that cannot happen. but history tells us that true progress is only possible where governments exist to serve their people and not the other way around. [cheers and applause] >> if anyone wants tow see the difference between freedom and sirny, let them come here to south africa. here citizens braved bullets and beatings to claim that most basic right -- the ability to be

free stodetermine your own fate in your own land. and the example extended far beyond that victory. i mentioned yesterday at the town hall, like america's first president, george washington, he understood that democracy can only endure when it's bigger than just one person. so his willingness tow leave power was as profound as his ability to claim power. [applause] >> the good news is that this example is getting attention across the continent. we see it in free and fair elections from ghana to zambia, we hear it in the voices of civil society. i was in senegal and met with civil society groups, including

a group called yem mari, which meant "fed up," that helped to defend the will of the people after elections in senegal. we recognize it in places like tanzania, where text messages connect citizens to their representatives. and we strengthen it when organizations stand up for democratic principles like echo watts did. but this work is not complete. we all know that. not in those countries where leaders enrich themselves with impunity. not in communities where you can't start a business or go to school or get a house without paying a bribe to somebody. these things have to change. and they have to change not just

because such corruption is immoral. it's also a matter of self-interest and economics. governments that respect the rights of their citizens and abide by the rule of law do better, grow faster, draw more investment than those who don't. that's just a fact. [applause] >> where the promise of liberation gave way to the corruption of power. and then the collapse of the economy. now, the leaders of this region, led by south africa, brokered an end to a long-running crisis, george zimmerman has a new

constitution, the -- zimbabwe has a new constitution and there is a movement to move forward. so that zimbabweans can determine their own future. and there must be respect upon the universal law upon which democracy depanneds. [cheers and applause] these are things that america stands for. not perfectly. but that's what we stand for. that's what my administration stands for. we don't tell people who their leaders should be. but we do stand up with those who support the principles that lead to a better life.

that's why we are interested in investing, not in strong men, but in strong institutions, independent judiciary that can enforce the rule of law, honest police forces that can protect the people's interests, instead of their own... [applause] >>on open government that can bring transparentsy and accountability. yes, that's why we stand up for civil society, for journalists and mgos and community organizers-t-"íhs and activistso give people a voice. that's why we support societies that empower women, because no country will reach its potential unless it draws on the talents of our wives and our mothers and our sisters and our daughters. [cheers and applause]

just to editorialize here for a second because, you know, my father's home country of kenya... like much of africa, you see women doing work and not getting respect. and i -- i tell you, you can measure how well a country does by how it treats its women. [applause] and all across this continent and all around the world, we have more work to do on that front. got some sisters saying amen. [chuckles] >> now, i know that there are some in africa who hear me say these things who, see america's

support for these values and say, that's intrusive, why are you meddling? i know there are those who argue that ideas like democracy and transparency are western exports. i disagree. those in power who make those arguments are usualee trying to distract people from their own abuses. sometimes, they're the same people who behind closed doors are willing to sell out their own country's resources to foreign interests, so long as they get a cut. just telling the truth. [chuckles] [applause] now, ultimately, i believe that

africans should make up their own minds about what service african interests. we trust your judgment, the judgment of ordinary people. we believe that when you control your destiny, if you have a handle on your government, then governments will promote freedom and opportunity because that will serve you. and it shouldn't just be america that stands up for democracy. ist should be africans as well. here in south africa, your democratic story has inspired the world. through the power of your example and through your position and organizations like the african union, you can be a voice for the human progress that you have written into your own constitution. you shpt assume that that is unique to south africa.

people have asoperations like that -- aspirations like that, everywhere. this brings me to the final area where our partnership can empower people-- the pursuit and so long as parts of africa continue to be ravaged by war and mayhem, opportunity and democracy cannot take root. across the continent, there are place where is too often, fear prevails. from mali to mogadishu, senseless terrorism all too often perverts the meaning of islam, one of the world's great religions and takes the lives of countless innocent africans. from congo to sudan, conflicts fester, robbing men, women and children of the lives that they deserve. in too many countries, the actions of thugs and war lords

and drug cartels and human traffickers, hole back the promise of africa, enslaving others for their own purposes. now, america cannot put a stop to these tragedies alone. you don't expect us to. that's a job for africans. but we can help. and we will help. i know there is a lot of talk of america's military presence in africa. but if you look at what we are actually doing, time and again, we are putting muscle behind african efforts. that's what we are doing in the doing where the nations of west africa is keeping the peace as they begin to rebuild. that is what we are doing in central africa where they are lowering the resistance and can operate. that is what we're doing in

somalia where an african union force is helping to stand on its own two feet. this has to lead to lasting peace, not just words on the paper. peace between and within sudan and south sudan so these governments get on with the work of investing of deeply impoverished people. peace in the congo with nations keeping their commitment so rights are claimed by their war-torn country and women and children no longer live in fear. [ applause ] >> absolutely. peace in mali where people will make their voices heard in new elections this summer. in each of these cases, africa must lead and

america will help. an america will make no apology for supporting african efforts to end conflict and stand up for human dignity. [ applause ] this year marks the 50th anniversary of the african union. an occasion that is more historic because they are taking on these challenges. i want america to stake our engagement, not just on security issues but environmental issues and economic issues and social issues, educational issues, i wanted to take that engagement to a whole new level. i'm proud to announce that next year i'm going to invite heads of stated from africa to a summit in the united states to help launch a new chapter in u.s.-african relations. [ applause ]

>> and as i mentioned yesterday, i'm going to hold a summit with the next class of our young african leaders initiative because we want to engage leaders and tomorrow's leaders in figuring out how we can best work together. [ applause ] >> let me close by saying this. governments matter. political leadership matters. i do hope that some of you here today decide to follow the path of public service. it can sometimes be thankless but i believe i believe it can also be a noble life. we also have to recognize that the choices we make

are not limited to the policies and programs of government. peace and prosperity in africa and around the world also depends on the attitudes of people. too often the source of tragedy, the source of conflict involves the choices ordinary people make that divide us from one another, black from white, christian from muslim, tribe from tribe. africa contains a multitude of identities, but the nations and people of africa will not fulfill their promise so long as some use identities to justify a excuse to steal

or kill or disenfranchise us. ultimately that is most important lesson that the world learned right here in south africa. mandela once wrote, no one is born hating another person because of the color of their skin or his background or his religion. people must learn to hate. if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite. [ applause ] >> i believe that to be true. i believe that has always

been true from the dawn of the first man to the youth of today. all that came in between here in africa, kingdoms has come and gone, crucible of slavery and emergence from colonialism, iconic movements for social justice, squandered wealth but soaring promise. the words give us a compass in a sea of change. firm ground amidst swirling currents. we always had the opportunity to choose a better history. we can always understand that most important decision, the decision we make when we find our common humanity in one another. that is always available to

us, that choice. i've seen that spirit in the welcoming smiles of children on the island and children from mumbasa on the ocean coast. that spirit exists in the mother that wants the life of dignity for her daughters and in the south african student that goes a distance just to get to school. it can be heard in the songs that rise from villages and city streets. it can be heard in the confident voices of young people like you. it is that spirit, that innate long go for justice and equality for freedom and solidarity. that is the spirit that can wipe away fear and it is in you, as you guide africa down that long and difficult road, i want you

to know you will find the extended hand of a friend in the united states of america. [ applause ] thank you very much. god bless! thank you. >> you are listening live as president obama's wraps up with a speech in capetown. he talked about the legacy of the robert kennedy, nelson mandela, gandhi and others and called on young people they're saying there is a challenge to your generation that your voice matters. you are going to have to get involved in making changes in the world in the way you think it should be more just. he talked about the u.s. partnering with nations in africa and he pledged $7 billion in energy funding to partner with folks there in south africa and throughout the continent. he talked about freeing energy and promoting that and showing the african people how they can capitalize on that and other ways the u.s. will partner with the region through trade and other

relationships. he is wrapping up his trip there and his first speech there as president. he has previously visited there as well. ♪ >> shannon: massive crowds are gathering in egypt for another day of deadly protests. we will have a live report in minutes. back here at home, extreme heat is taking over the southwest. so far one person has died in nevada and it's raising health concerns for many others in several states. border showdown, house leaders say they won't take up the newly immigration bill. we'll ask two house members what will it take to make a compromise. i'm shannon bream. hour two from the nation's capital starts right now,. >> we begin with scorching

heat boiling the western u.s. with yesterday's temperatures topping out at 130 degrees. triple-digit temperatures a at dangerous levels for several more days. >> reporter: 127 degrees is a record for june and across the far western region. local records are being broken one after another. another example is palm springs, 122 degrees there. here in los angeles, we've got people gathering in grand park, people waiting trying to keep cool. expecting about 93 and 89 at the moment. out to the deserted areas, people will seriously feel it. 117 in las vegas. one man died there, apparently he was old according to paramedics on the scene and he had been suffering medical complications. heat was too much for him. there were 40 people in the las vegas area who were taken to hospitals for heat

related conditions. doctors are warning that you really have to watch out for the effects of heat and be able to tell when you are getting sick. take a listen. >> if you are getting a fever in the heat, that is sign of a heat stroke, greater than 104 degrees. be on the lookout for altered mental status, fuzzy thinking, change of thinking or even loss of consciousness. when you get heat stroke your skin can cool down and get goose bumps instead of the sweating and hot skin. be on the lookout for that as well. >> reporter: they talk about the desert areas, down in phoenix, it's going to be 110. yesterday it was 117 and weather service at the airport in phoenix decided they are going to do a test. they tried to bake cookies. temperatures went to 106.

the cookies are being baked there. i think they were a bit soft but it can get up to 200 degrees in their cars. not to leave their kids or pets inside. >> shannon: not on a day like this. dominic, thanks very much. i believe by the end of this year the house will pass the stat bill. >> i think republicans realize the implications of the future of the republican party in america if we don't get this issue behind us. >> shannon: the battle over immigration reform is heating up, senate has passed its version but speaker john boehner says the house will start from scratch on its own bill. will all sides be able to reach a compromise? joining us, republican david swiekert and

congressman from texas. i want to start with the response from the speaker's office. this comes from his spokesmen what schumer had to say about the house passing a senate version. he said wishful thinking frankly so not a strategy to get a bill to the president's desk. is it dead on arrival? >> well, let's face it when you are handed a couple thousand page bill there is a lot of complications in this issue. i think the senate bill is on arrival in this fashion but that doesn't mean we don't do our work and find those areas where we have agreement, where we have need and grind through them. >> shannon: congressman, i want to ask you what is going to work and not going to work in the senate bill. all sides degree that something needs to be done. where do you think there are areas for compromise? >> we do need to address three things. we knead to have border security, a smart way of

securing the border. a guest worker plan that addresses the needs we have here the skills we need in the united states because of the aging population and the other thing, we counted 11 million undocumented persons. in fact i looked at what david has said on immigration, we actually agree on a lot of things. all we need to do is get democrats and republicans to sit down and we can work this out, especially members like david and i that are from rz arizona and texas. we understand the border. >> shannon: the cbo has scored the senate version of the bill and cut down on illegal immigration by about 25%. why is there a rush to get this measure through? >> that is interesting. i was looking at that point earlier today. we are going to spend $30 billion to throw at the border all it is going to do reduce it by 25%. we got to do this in a

smart way. we need to imagine when you throw all that money at the border, keep in mind that 40% of the 11-12 million undocumented persons we have came in through visa overstays. we need to be smarted. >> shannon: congressman, it does sound like there is room to meet in the middle, it's always in the details. >> the devil is in the details. [ laughter ] >> shannon: this country has send men to moon and come back alive? >> it's so much more than just the border. as the congressman was saying, almost half of the undocumented, illegal population in the united states is from overstaying visas, you've got to fix the visa system. i have a balloon and stick my finger, if you lock up parts of the border and you are successful, do populations find other ways into the country.

you have to deal with the incentives that are inherent in the country for folks to come here illegally. what is the real fight that is going on? the real discussion is what will the immigration system look like over the next 20-25 years. are you going to have a talent based system? are you going to have a family sponsorship system? that is much more uncomfortable fight that underlying in what we're doing right now. >> shannon: congressman cuellar i want to get your comments on i.c.e. union. they feel like what will come from the senate will handcuff them in trying to detour job and trying to get a handle on things. your response? >> first of all what the senate bill, there are a lot to do is throw a lot of new border patrol down there, another 20,000 on the top of 21 we have.

doesn't say anything about the i.c.e. agents, doesn't saying anything about adding more judges when you provide more activity down there, you will need more judges, probation, public defenders, u.s. marshals. it's not only just talking about border patrol and fencing, it is more complicated. they ought to let people like david and i that live on the border and understand it's not the men and women in green but the men and women in blue which are ports of entry are so important to make sure we put time and emphasis on ports also. >> shannon: we thank you. it sounds like you both agree. we will watch the effort as it plays out. >> shannon: democrats like chuck schumer is arguing on republicans to pass legislation but congress should enjoy the 4th of july recess because when they get back, there are a

whole lot other fights. government shutdown clocks will be ticking down, according to chris, they are into a close fight. joining us for predictions. that is serious word? >> it's going to be hellacious. we have budget shutdowns could coming. >> when we talk about washington dysfunctionality, rationale americans that organize around logical things, we can put a man on the moon, how come we can't figure out border security. the truth is when you have divided government, i've said this before and it's through, we have the most liberal president since lyndon johnson and conservative house since the 19 20s. you won't be able to move a

lot of complex legislation, they squeeze something out of senate. our immigration system has been broken for 40 years. it's not like the difference between today and six weeks from today -- we have failed at this issue for so long there is no urgency to the failure anymore or more than they're usually is. on october 1st the fiscal year ends. that means flee things. number one we'll be in more than red zone on the debt ceiling. we'll expect the debt ceiling to expire in september sometime. we'll probably be on a patch or stopgap measure on october 1st when the new fiscal year starts. the budget, continuing resolution as we call it here in order to save people embarrassment, we haven't had a full year federal budget since 2007. they don't know how to do this anymore. we're going to have to do that or have a government shutdown. then the president's health

law goes into effect. the unpopular phase. it's going to be no problem. might be a little crunchy, more like an english muffin. the truth these things will be so all consuming, whatever schumer says, mccain says, president says about the urgency. all john boehner, we're going to have an immigration bill and we'll see you in conference whenever. what is going to consume washington is going to be fight over fiscal matters that is going to take place and there is no avoiding it. >> shannon: yes or no, we're going to get cut off, does immigration get passed by the end of the year? >> no, no, no countries. >> you heard it here. this holiday week will you be having power play? >> we will take off america's birthday because we love america the most. >> shannon: i'll be here. 11:30 a.m.

thank you, chris. irs is under continued scrutiny for misusing funds, our next guest those issues make him question the agency's ability to oversee obamacare. he has come up with a bill to stop them from doing that. joining us now tom price. good to see you? >> great to be with you. >> as you heard chris talk about the next phase of the healthcare law is going into effect. when you say irs, a lot of home healthcare and irs, how do are they linked? >> people are concerned about it. irs is the enforcement arm for the affordable care act, obamacare. their job is to enforce and implement portions of the law which we believe is crazy when the irs has shown themselves to be disarray and not having the trust of the american people. we introduced a bill that

says the irs can't be the enforce or implement obamacare or affordable care act countries. >> my understanding you have hundred co-sponsors on the bill. are any of them democrats? do you need them and what happens when it hits the senate? >> we hope we can get democratic support in the house. my suspicion if we can get it to floor we will have democrats that will support it on the floor of the house, there is concern in private conversations, there is concerned as we are as the irs being involved in america's healthcare. when it gets senate my suspicion they will listen hopefully to their constituents. what they're screaming loudly is that the last thing we want the irs to do is be involved in our healthcare. hopefully we will be able to move the bill forward and have the president recognize that health for individuals and families and physicians and the doctors and families and patients ought to be the ones making medical decisions, not washington, d.c.. >> shannon: if the irs was

somehow divested to enforce it, would there be anyone to enforce and that the teirn point that the whole law falls apart? >> the last thing we need is irs getting involved in on involved in health activities. how about going somebody in the health department to deal with healthcare in our country. that would be the things that americans could understand. i disagree with the law because it harms quality health care and my colleagues are very concerned about their ability to continue to care for their patients. what we need to do is get patients and families and doctors making medical decisions, not washington, d.c. we've got a lot of legislation that will move us through that positive, right direction. we hope we can get it through the house and senate and have the president recognize that his law is going to destroy quality health care in this country. >> shannon: we want to leave you with this poll.

fox news when we asked what kind of, 66% abolish and build a new agency or major reorganization. we'll see what happens to your point with healthcare. congressman, thank you. >> shannon: one-year anniversary of his inauguration, thousands of protestors are calling for mohammed morsi to step down. massive demonstrations in the heart of cairo are offering a glimpse of a nationwide turmoil. conor powell has the latest. >> reporter: it was one year ago that mohammed morsi took power in egypt has been in constant state of turmoil since then. his critics is using the anniversary to pressure morsi into stepping down organizing large protests across the entire country. tens of thousands of protestors begin in the

square today waving flags and calling on morsi to step down. opposition leaders complain that morsi has failed to help egypt's struggling economy and he and muslim brotherhood dominated parliament have curbed freedoms. is sick lar egyptians make up the opposition and they complain that he is like a hosni mubarak and straw man that ruled egypt for decades. many protestors are carrying anti-american signs and slogans. they believe u.s. is too close to morsi and muslim brotherhood. they fear an attack on the u.s. embassy in cairo and americans were warned to stay off the streets. on friday an american student was stabbed to death while taking pictures of a pro-government rally. on the other side of cairo,

morsi supporters gathered near the presidential palace. government supporters were well organized, they even appeared to be armed in some cases. there are no reports of really serious violence. so far it's been very peaceful but there are concerns that violence could break out as protest goes across the entire country today. morsi said in his vow, she refusing to leave office. big question right now is whether the military may intervene in this political crisis. right now they are calling for calm and they say they will not intervene and politics must take its course. >> shannon: thank you so much. >> our fox news poll show most americans think america should be hands off when it comes to syria but congress is divided. a congressmen go head to head. george zimmerman is on trial for the murder of

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>> shannon: first week of george zimmerman trial was marked by gripping testimony from two key witnesses. rachel a friend of trayvon martin that was on the phone with him giving her account of the struggle between the two men and neighbor john goode that he observed trayvon on top of zimmerman when they were fighting. david wall and jim, i'll start with you. who will have better prosecution or defense? >> prosecution. they took shots on friday but overall they are building very clear case that martin was profiled. previous calls that zimmerman made to 911 indicated he was concerned about african-americans. then the girl on the phone says martin is saying to her this creepy so and so is following me. then he says i'm being followed. and why are you falling me?

later he said get off, get off. it's clear martin was profiled. he was followed and dispatcher told him, you don't have to do that. you don't have to do it. he called -- martin called him a cracker. elephant in the room, if martin looked like me or younger version of me we wouldn't be on show today. >> shannon: there is problems for the witness, rachel and lots of what she had to say. she has been confronted with previous statements. what do you make of her testimony? >> the defense has to be cheering. they couldn't get a better prosecution if they wanted. rachel admitted liar, no question about it. she wrote a letters showing allegiance to trayvon martin's family then it turned out she didn't write the letter. she talks about cracker has no big deal. it's obviously a comment

reflecting racial animous toward george zimmerman and john good set up the whole self-defense. trayvon martin was on top of zimmerman until he finally shot him. this is prosecution that did one of two things. either they didn't vet the witnesses and question them properly or they did figure that out and decided to go forward with the prosecution anyway. i would love to have malicious prosecution suited that will no doubt be filed after george zimmerman is acquitted. >> shannon: in florida you only have six jurors to convince but you have to convince them beyond a reasonable doubt. is the prosecution going to be able to do that? >> yes, think so. that concerns me very much. in florida only if you face the death penalty do you get 12 jurors. six jurors is too easy to acquit or convict.

more dialogue with 12 jurors, i think it is fairer. i'm concerned there is only six jurors. in maryland where my main office is, if you think 91 days in jail, you get 12 jurors. i'm very concerned about six jurors. >> shannon: explain how it works it's possible at the end of the prosecution putting on its case the defense can move, this isn't going to jury, there is no way presented the most basic case. it could be done there. this may never go to the jury? >> if the prosecution's case proving the self-defense of george zimmerman, they will make a motion at the end of the case, outside the presence of jury and say, this case has not been proven by a reasonable doubt. in the judge decides that is the case, it's over and done with. now, there is a problem as

highly politically charged case so i don't expect that will happen because of that alone but it could happen and i've had it happen before. no proof beyond a reasonable doubt there is not second-degree murder, the case should be done. >> shannon: how much do you think the makeup of the jury is going to make people feel? >> there are six women. i think that is great. in my experience, women are tougher. they use more common sense, they don't debt distracted. i think women jurors are better than men. it disagree. let's not forget, zimmerman had a gun and martin had a bag of skittles. >> come on jim, the weapon was the concrete sidewalk. that was his weapon. he was bashing his own head into the sidewalk. that is deadly force that can be met by deadly force in self-defense. that is what happened.

>> zimmerman put this whole thing in motion. why was he following him? he put it in motion. >> that was his job as neighborhood watch supervisor. he was doing what he was supposed to. >> he wouldn't have stopped you or me. >> he probably would have stopped me. >> shannon: i'm going to stop you now because that the end of this segment. we thank you both for joining us. we'll be watching as things get underway tomorrow in florida. >> just a reminder, starting on monday, our own greta van susteren will be inside the courtroom at trial. she will report all the later developments. greta is there monday and tuesday. if you follow her on twitter right now you know she is bit of harrowing flight. we wish her safe travels down there. congress is divided on issue. should the u.s. intervene in syria? a fair and balanced debate with el yont engle and

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♪ >> shannon: at the top of headlines, supreme court has denied a last ditch effort to stop same-sex marriages, supporters asked to put a halt to same-sex weddings in california saying they should follow proper legal procedure honoring the 25-day period where they could reconsider the ruling. justice kennedy denied it without comment meaning that same-sex marriages can continue to california. >> u.n. ambassador susan rice starts her new job as security advisor tomorrow.

she says the classified leaks have not weakened have damaged u.s. foreign policies. they contrast by other high ranking expressed their concerns. >> rick perry, bill was filibustered by a state senator wendy davis. screaming protestors held up the proceedings. they called a second legislative session for tomorrow. the bill would ban abortions after 20 weeks and have clinics meet standards. a police chief is launching his version of facebook. but this is for cops only. blue line will launch in october. it's being described as a way for officers to connect and share techniques and software.

>> shannon: last week the c.i.a. reportedly shipped weapons to jordan to arm some syrian rebels. fox poll shows 23% of americans believe we should be helping in syria. congress is divided on issue. joining us now democratic congressman elliot engle and scott dejarlay. i know that of two of you have very different peace of legislation dealing with syria. you see a positive benefit in arming some of the rebels. how do we effectively get them? >> we know it's a free syrian army led by the general. they are people that are fighting for a democratic pro western syria. it's easy to vet them and easy to know who we are but

the problem is they are having a big disadvantage because they can't get the weapons. the assad side and brutal, let's look at it context. there are 100,000 people, assad was the leader of syria murders his own people. there are seven million displaced syrians and 2 million syrian refugees. from a humanitarian point of view, it is important that we get involved and from the u.s. strategic point of view it's very important we get involved. let me say that nobody is talking about boots on the ground or another war or anything like that. we are talking about arming the rebels and we're going to give them the tools they can defend themselves. it's enough to keep in our interests to do so. >> shannon: you think we

should put the brakes on what we're doing. what would you like to see should happen? >> i don't know how you can vet rebels and make sure the weapons won't be weapons we will be fighting against in the near future. i don't know how you say we're not getting involved when we are giving people weapons. i would say that is directly getting involved. it would be in this country if you give somebody a gun and aiding and abet can an accessory to murder. i don't think it's as simple as the congressman tried to describe. we have a war weary nation. we don't have a clear plan in syria. president has yet to address the nation why we should be arming people that we don't know that are friends. i think it's a volatile situation right now. we need to proceed with extreme caution. >> shannon: congressman, i will give you a chance to respond and qat ar has been

provided shoulder fired missiles? >> i don't know what qatar is doing. i know they have been supplying some weapons to the rebels. the point is this. of all the bad choices, we're in a situation where they are all bad choices. there are no good choices. of all the bad choices in my opinion the worst choice is to do nothing. it will guarantee that assad stays in power and hezbollah which is terror organization becomes the primary force in the middle east and is puppet of iran. we are giving iran further power in the middle east. before world war ii started, easiest thing was to do something. sometimes it begets something far worse farther down in the situation. that is what is happening

here. we will not allow iran gets a nuclear weapon. if the iranian that is supplying the power and propping up assad, that is not in the interests of the united states. that is something that is very dangerous. so from that point of view we could be doing what we did in libya where we provided air cover, have a no-fly zone or use cruise missiles to destroy the runways. i don't know the specifics, that is up to the generals and to the decide but we need to do something unless it will be much worse later on. >> shannon: final word here. >> sure. i don't know how to take two bad choices and come up with a good choice. the enemy is not our friend and we've seen that in the middle east. it sounds like the enemy here is not the civil war in syria but we are concerned about hezbollah and iran. we need to have a clear strategy when we are moving forward with american

taxpayer money. obviously what was indicated is there could easily be an escalation of the war. we are sending small arms and why send gons a missile fight? are we going to have no-fly zone? this needs to be debated in front of the american people because we have a country that is mistrusting of the federal government and administration with all that is going with the irs, what went on in benghazi. the representative mentioned libya. certainly what we saw four dead americans. if that what you are friends do to us and we couldn't investigate the crime scene for four weeks. is if that is what is helping rebels to goat for the united states, i don't have a lot of faith in syrian rebels in any better treatment. >> shannon: thank you both for your time today. >> former south africa president nelson mandela is fighting a dangerous lung

condition. one relative says he is on life support. greg palkot is there live where a steady stream of friends is visiting the ailing leader. >> reporter: absolutely. now 23 days since mandela has been in the hospital about a hundred yards away from me. he is putting up a brave fight. we have heard multiple references from president obama in his visit here to south africa in the last couple of days. he actually has gotten fairly close to the hospital but president obama decided on his condition he would not pay a personal visit. he met with family members. he is on life support. he uses a ventilator to breathe but in fact the past 24 hours we have been hearing from other family members giving slightly more positive reports, including ex-wife winnie that visited for an hour and a half today.

streams of well-wishers visited the national icon. people from the anti-apartheid cover and a lot of kids. mandela loved children. it is sunday here and all across south africa there have been prayers said for mandela including the church which was in his old neighborhood. that place was a scene of ugly violence in the past. today was a scene of deep self-gratitude to the man, that man who had so much to do with this new democratic south africa. >> shannon: thank you very much. >> high court says no to doma and sent prop 8 packing. we'll ask brian braun the national organization of marriage questions next. ♪

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♪ >> shannon: two landmark decisions by the supreme court. one turning over the doma and another leaving in place a lower court ruling striking down california's proposition 8. is it simply a matter of time before same-sex marriage is legal in every state? let's ask ryan brown, president of national organization of marriage, brian, what did the decisions didn't do. as far as the doma decision, if your state recognizes same-sex marriage you can't be denied benefits. already we got a notice same-sex couple that was married in new york, they are going to be extended benefits under the u.s. citizenship and immigration services as far as the green card. it sounds like the administration is going beyond what the supreme court just handed them? >> that's right. only section three of doma was struck down. it was very wrong.

it says the states can coerce what the federal government to do what the states say. that is anti-federalism. now, we have an attempt to undercut section two which says, states still have the rights to define marriage. in both of these decisions, the reason that ted olsen went to the supreme court was to create a right in the same-sex marriage. all the states would have same-sex marriage if they had their way. that did not happen. it was not created. it is very troubling the logic behind the kennedy's decision in section three of doma that says congress, president bill clinton that supported marriage as union between a man and woman. it sets a horrible precedence. >> shannon: they said it's very easy to make someone else the monster. if you don't come along

with us you hate us. how do you rebuff that message? >> this is discrimination. discrimination towards the folks throughout this country who know there is a truth to the fact that men and women are difficulty. husbands and wives are different. they want to vote on that issue. that is not animous men and wait a minute coming together in marriage. to say that and put that in lawsuit does not bode well for the future. the decision in the prop 8 case, it is utter lawlessness to say proponent's pass 8 and majority of californians voted for it. when attorney general doesn't want to defend law they have a way to sweep it aside. this can be used on any issue, voting rights, if a governor decides not to follow through and defend voting rights law, then the people have no recourse. it's completely wrong.

americans have to stand up against it. >> shannon: we know essentially the court leaves it to the states. you are working in a number of states, folks can go to the polls and have their voice heard. a lot have them tweeted us they don't have confidence it will not stand in other places. keep on top of it. before you book your summer travel, you wanted to hear this. brenda buttner has more on scoring your dream vacation. stick around. hey! did you know that honey nut cheerios has oats that can help lower cholesterol? and it tastes good? sure does! wow. it's the honey, it makes it taste so... well, would you look at the time... what's the rush? be happy. be healthy.

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>> shannon: it is double trouble. zoo celebrating the rival of four and a half baby turtles. this two-headed turtle is named thelma and louise. zoo officials say the two headed animals are not unheard of with snakes and turtles they are healthy and eating. that is it for us in washington. fox news sunday. big thanks to katie travers,

in the control room there. thanks so much. i'm shannon bream. >> i'm john roberts in for chris wallace, immigration reform faces an uncertain road in the house after it sails through the senate. >> the yeas are 68 the nay are 32. >> we're getting right with the law. >> we're joined by two members who helped draft the bill. john mccain and charles schumer together only on fox news sunday. then we'll example prospects in the republican led house. >> we're not going to bring up the senate bill. we're going to do it in our own way because we wanted to make sure we get the stuff right. >> we'll discuss