greta? discuss tonight we are live in sanford, florida, outside the courthouse where george zimmerman is on trial for murder. and we have a sizzling question, will it be the gunshot forensics that tell the real story? >> the medical examiner's report does not support a contention, an allegation that mr. zimmerman pressed that gun against trayvon martin's chest before he fired it. does it? >> not from what i -- >> as a matter of fact, the known evidence completely contradicts that type of suggestion, doesn't it? >> from what i understand, yes. >> after reviewing all those items, in terms of severity, how would you classify the injuries to the defendant's head? >> they were not life threatening. they were very insignificant. >> no pressing of the gun against the chest? >> not based on evidence, no.

>> this is the area here, to my right, which is where the decedent's body was found and where george zimmerman said he was lying and his head was pounded against the cement was about here. >> are the injuries consistent with having been repeatedly slammed into a concrete surface? >> no. >> your review of the evidence, was there any indication that trayvon martin was committing a crime that evening, sir? >> no, sir. >> was there any evidence that that young man was armed? >> no, sir. >> did you know that george zimmerman had a weapon before that conversation? >> no, ma'am. >> never knew him to carry a weapon? >> no. >> did you think there was anything wrong with him following him to see where he was going? >> legally speaking, no. >> we went back to the scene to retrace the steps of george zimmerman and trayvon martin. >> if you take a look at this 7-eleven, you'll see that it's not unlike any other 7-eleven,

but this is where trayvon martin dressed in that hoodie, you've seen the photograph of the hoodie, with a gunshot wound and it's the crime evidence photo. he went into the 7-eleven and made a purchase of iced tea and skittles. he came out after the purchase and went approximately a quarter mile down this direction to the area where he eventually ran into george zimmerman. but this is where did all began, and what's important to know is that the time this purchase was made at 6:24, did was dark outside and it was a rainy night here in sanford, florida. >> eyewitness testimony in a case like this one is critical. the decedent can't tell you what happened and the defendant george zimmerman in this instance, has given a re-enactment of what he says happened, so we came out here tonight to fact check to see whether or not anyone who was in these apartments might have been able to see a little more or

less. you can see as we walk that there is not a lot of light back here. other than the occasional apartment casting some light out. when the lights aren't on here, i can tell you that i can't identify someone five feet in front of me, it's that dark back here, at least now. i'm assuming the lighting conditions back here are very much similar to what they were at night on february 26th. this is the area right here to my right, which is where the decedents body was found. and where george zimmerman says he was lying and where he hit his head was pounded against the cement was about here, and, of course, here to orient you. this is the tee area right here. according to george. george had walked -- he was down to my left, he had made his phone call to the police, intended to go this direction and go toward the clubhouse,

which was down there. and between the last second that george zimmerman's phone records show, between the last time he hung up with the police and the time a 911 call was put in by a citizen that something was going on, was 1:20. so presumably something happened right about here. it will be the jury's job to decide who was the aggressor, whether george was defending himself or not, and, of course, that's the task we give the jury and the prosecution has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, his case, and the defense has to prove nothing. >> the court date starting today was a stunner, the judge telling jurors, forget something they heard yesterday. last night under cross-examination, officer chris serino believes their version of events. >> we're going to take the wire off the table just as the possibility for the purposes of this next week. do you think they're telling the truth? >> yes. >> today the judge telling the

jury to dismiss from their minds what serino said. >> i'm going to have the court reporter read back a question and answer from yesterday afternoon and give you an instruction on that. shelly, you may do so. >> the question was, if we were to take pathological liar off the table as a possibility just for the purpose of this next question, you think he was telling the truth? answer, yes. >> ladies and gentlemen, my instruction to you is that that is an improper comment by a witness, as to the truth and veracity of another witness. you are to disregard the question and the answer. >> joining us, our legal panel. jim is a former prosecutor, when the prosecutor heard the question being posed by the

defense. do you think -- wouldn't think have been the time the prosecutor jumps out of his seat and says objection before the witness even answers it? >> good trial lawyers have spring loaded pants, greta. and when something like that happens, you make as much noise as you can, so the witness can't get the answer out of his mouth. the impossibility of unringing that bell is unclear. especially when the judge said, i'm going to read it to you again. ignore that part, impossible. >> it's beyond me, the prosecution should have beaten the answer to begin with. the jury never should have heard it, but then spent the night thinking about, come the next day, and says, let's repeat it to the jury again. >> and the worst possible aspect of all of this, and it's all bad. is that not only did the jury have that to think about all night, they got to percolate on this experienced homicide det t

detective, putting his s approval on the veracity of george zimmerman, that means everything that george zimmerman said, this cop either thought, that's dead on accurate or thought, you know what, he's hearthing, he's making minor inconsistencies, but none of it affects the picture that his self-defense story, i believe stamp of approval, they're never going to get over that, the state is never going to get past that. >> it was the last question of yesterday, and i suspect, although this is no -- they thought the trial was pretty much over and they were phoning it in, they had given up for the day. when you hear the word think, the viewers have got to understand, is that witnesses can't comment on whether someone's truth telling or not. i mean, this is so basic, what were they doing just sitting there? >> you know, we have a saying in the law, you can't unring a bell. i don't know if it was the end of the day, and they may very well have been tired.

they weren't on their a game. >> what made it better, this morning the judge said, read the question back to the jury, refresh their memory. and then saying, you have to disregard it again. you can't unring the bell. and the jurors -- for the legal part, they'll disregard it, but it's in their minds. >> bernie, the defence fought that instruction today, i guess if you fight every instruction, it's going to go against you, but they fought it, the whole idea that if the jury happened to forget it yesterday, that the lead detective says he agrees with the defendant's version of events, he believes them, is that now they forgot it over the night. now they get to hear it again this morning from the judge. >> i mean, it's completely inane. i don't like instructions that fix something that happened, whether it's my fault and hopefully that doesn't happen a lot. or it's someone else's fault. i'm assuming some of the jurors, i'm hoping some of the jurors

have forgotten about it, 24 hours goes by, jurors that have forgotten about it, the judge says, that one thing that came in yesterday, disregard it, knock it from your memory banks, it's like patty daily forgetting i didn't ask her to the senior prom. some things you just don't forget. the jurors will discuss, i bet that's something important. >> i think they can't be that unschooled in the law that they didn't know to be on their feet when they heard the word think. >> not only think, but pathological liar. i do believe it just got out before they could stop it. and the judge didn't cram that down their throat. to her credit, she did say, you've -- >> there are bad answers that come out, and we can imagine a bunch of them.

this particular one, the problem is, it goes right to the heart of the case, if you believe zimmerman, and this homicide investigator, whose job it is to catch murderers, says he believes him, that equals one thing, and that's zimmerman's not guilty. all they left out is, oh, by the way, do you think he's not guilty? they should have thrown that in too, so the d.a.'s not -- >> i would believe -- >> game's over, he's not guilty. >> you know, i'm going to take the last word, when you hear the word think, that's when you're on your feet, don't wait for the answer. panel, stick around, we're going to have much more to talk about. right now, the forensic evidence, zimmerman's defense lawyer questioning the lead investigator about the fatal gunshot. >> the medical examiner's report is consistent with mr. zimmerman's story, were they not? >> yes, sir. >> as far as how he shot him, correct? >> where he shot him? >> yes, sir. >> and the distance between the muzzle of the gun and the clothing, correct? >> yes, sir. >> and also, that there was a

gap of a few inches between the clothing and mr. martin's chest, correct? >> yes, sir. >> evidencing that the muscle of the gun was up against the shirt, that the shirt was not up against the chest, there was a few inch difference? >> yes, sir. >> right? and didn't that support the contention that mr. martin was hanging over mr. zimmerman, his shirt coming forward when the shot was fired? >> it is. >> yes? >> yes. >> had he been standing up as i am now, the shirt would be up against the chest, probably. >> probably, yes. >> if i lean over, my shirt is going to fall apart from my chest a few inches, and that seems to be how it was. >> yes, sir. >> the medical examiner's report does not support a contention, an allegation that mr. zimmerman pressed that gun against trayvon martin's chest before he fired

it. does it? >> not from the -- >> as a matter of fact, the known evidence completely contradicts that type of suggestion, doesn't it? >> from what i understand, yes. >> there are no pressing of the gun against the chest, was there? >> not based on evidence that i read, no. >> dr. michael biden joins us, before we get to the merits of this, i have to tell you, why in the world the prosecution didn't object to this this witness clearly was not qualified to testify as he was testifying as to what the medical examiner said some place else, i don't know where the prosecutors are, they must be sleeping. the oldest trick in the book, he kept holding up his hands to show the gap between the sweatshirt and the body as though he was wearing a 3x and he was a small guy. it's the oldest trick in the book. tell me the importance of that -- the study of that sweatshirt and the bullet wound?

>> the problem is, to begin with, greta, you're right, there's nothing mention of the clothing in the autopsy report. the body is received nude, the clothing got to the me office, there was a separate receipt for the clothing, nobody in the m.e.'s office seems to have looked at the clothing, what the detective was agreeing to was not true. what is true is that it was not a contact wound. the muzzle was not up against the skin at the time the autopsy was done. we can see that, but it was within two or three inches away. the stipling was two or three inches in diameter. that has to be evaluated by the criminalist who does test firing. we have had none of that. there's been nothing in the records about the clothing.

>> and if you look at the defense lawyer on the screen, he's holding up his fingers as though it's about six inches. the jury's looking at him as he's doing this. the prosecution's not saying anything. >> can you examine the sweatshirt and the wound on the decedent's body and make a determination and see if the sweatshirt was away from the body? and can you estimate the damage? but can you look at that and estimate that? >> yes, the criminal -- the medical examiner can do that. to see the spread of the stipling and the soot that comes out of the muzzle of the gun, and how wide it is on the outer most clothing. the hoodie probably is the most important piece of the clothing to be able to measure that, and that will tell you how far away the muzzle is from that outer

garment. once it hits clothing, the stipling spreads in different directions. what wibds up on the skin is not the distance from the muzzle of the gun. >> just so i'm clear, can you establish whether it's a gap between the sweatshirt and the body. if he's leaning over and on top of george zimmerman, you would expect the sweatshirt to drop a bit? >> no. you can't tell the distance of the outer most garment which is what's most important from the skin, except by the medical examiner, you can by common sense perhaps but by determining the ballistics tests that aren't in evidence yet, one could get a good idea of how far the muzzle is, the gun is from the clothing, at the time of discharge, and the direction it's going in. so it gives you the idea of the

general -- >> but that's not what they're trying to establish. >> all right. well, i'll ask you later, but that's not what they're trying to establish. they're trying to establish the gap. >> you can't tell the gap from -- >> can you tell the fact of a gap? maybe you can't measure the precise gap, but the fact of a gap? >> yeah, you could tell that. the clothing -- the spread on the clothing is different than the spread on the skin. you could say there was a gap, you can't tell how much of a gap. >> great, okay. here's the florida medical examiner testifying today in court about zimmerman's injuries. >> are the injuries to the back of the defendant's head consistent with having been repeatedly slammed into a concrete surface? >> no. >> why not? >> if you look at the injuries, they're so minor, that to me the word slam implies great force. and this -- the resulting

injuries are not great force. >> dr. biden your thoughts and i should mention the fact that this doctor looked at photographs, didn't examine george zimmerman right after the incident. but tell me whether -- what do you think about her testimony? >> i think that her testimony is reasonable, she did look at medical records and the ems records and doctor records we received. what it is, he has multiple injuries on the back of the head and the nose. but nothing was serious enough as thought by the ems people -- to require stitches, x-ray, further evaluation, that he was not disoriented, he was walking, talking, immediately after this, his blood pressure was fine, he wasn't breathing hard, all of this would indicate that the injuries themselves were minor. however, we can't tell how many injuries, we can tell at least

one or two injuries, or three to the head. but many injuries don't leave any marks on the body. we can never tell the total number of injuries. >> in terms of those injuries, could they be sustained by someone punching someone in the face, in the person falling or do you have to be -- sort of at least multiple times be on that person? >> well, i think that a fall, a punch in the face and a fall down and hitting the head against the concrete would create -- could create all the injuries actually because of the shape of the head. but there could be many impacts that don't leave an injury. we can't identify those. we know they weren't serious, and there was a discussion about the shape of the head. everybody's head is not perfectly round. behave lumps and bumps. there was a fellow, who lo thought he could tell kr

criminality by the lumps and bumps hurt. >> do those injuries look like they can hurt? >> sure, they can hurt. >> thank you. now to tonight's hot button issue on gretawire.com. do you think the medical examiner's testimony in court today is damaging to the defense? go to gretawire.com right now and vote in our poll. straight ahead, our live coverage from sanford florida continues. is the forensics of the gunshot the key to the case or not. our le ♪ when you experience something great, you want to share it. with everyone. that's why more customers recommend verizon, america's largest 4g lte network.

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the forensic evidence tell us about the deadly encounter? we're back live from sanford, florida with our legal panel. jim, you're a prosecutor, were you in your wildest dreams have let -- i'm going do let bernie instead. what do you think about the facts that the defense attorney held up his hands showing a huge gap? >> greta, you already know what i'm thinking, you ask him -- the strangest trial i ever saw in my life was scott peterson, and i've made fun of jim hammer for the past five years, jim, i owe you an apology. this is now it. the homicide detective has taken the stand. he's not been qualified on anything, he's testified to the cause and manner of death. the gunshot to garment distance, and then the medical examiner comes and says, i get extra testimony. she doesn't say anything about martin. she talks about the victim and his injuries, i'm completely confused, but jim, i'm sorry, greta, good point when the defense attorney does that,

that's a problem. >> yeah, but the problem is, this is so insane. i mean, you've been in a courtroom, the whole idea is to have a gap between that sweatshirt and the body when the gun went off to show that trayvon martin was on top of george zimmerman, and he holds his hands up as wide as he possibly -- the prosecutor just sits there like a dummy, and lets him keep showing this to the jury. >> i'm in the courtroom, and all i can think is to hold myself down, objection, objection, stand on your feet. i mean, this was just beyond -- >> this is almost -- i can't think which is worse, was it worse when he used the word think and not object and let the detectives answer that he believes everything the defendant said or is it worse to sit there and let the defense attorney testify with this giant gap with his hands. >> it wasn't a gap when he got done, it was a canyon.

it was wse boy measurements, which are always on the larger size. the date's redirects have been so lame, and for them to not have objected, just like bernie said, this detective never qualified as an expert on anything. and he is repeating back -- apparently not even accurately, what the medical examiner's findings are, totally hearsay, totally outside the scope, it was outrageous. >> defend the prosecution sitting there? >> this is unnecessary roughness. it was a big -- >> tell me, would you have -- let me start, if an issue -- >> i can hear the witness, i would be objecting so loud, you wouldn't hear the witness in that courtroom. the judge would have to tell me to shut up and sit down. >> how about the demonstration where he keeps his hand up in front of the jury like that. you don't think that's bad? >> can we talk about --

>> you know why you're wrong. if you talk -- if you were talking to the jury tonight, i bet if we could talk to the jury tonight and said, is there a gap between the sweatshirt and the body, all the jurors would hold up their hand and go like that. because they saw it. look at that. >> having said that, this was the best day for the prosecution so far. >> that's true. >> i think this is true. >> no, i -- i think this is huge, actually. last night you asked whether or not it was good to play zimmerman's tape for the prosecution, i said, terrible idea, unless -- i still wouldn't have done it. you can point out inconsistencies in his statement, and make it a lie. and tell the jury this guy's making this up. i think it's beyond a aren't doubt that trayvon martin, zimmerman says you're going to die tonight, only hit him so softly on the concrete that he had two scratches on the back of his head.

if trayvon martin a homicidal maniac was repeatedly pounding zimmerman in the concrete -- i've seen photos with injuries like this. >> let's let ted in. >> i'm listening to this doctor say these wounds were nonthreatening, and that it was just one single hit, and then -- wait a minute, mark o'mara got up and she's was able to admit, i'm not really sure. she was incomplete. this is the thing with this woman, she looked at some photos, she made a decision from the photos, she never examined this guy. i mean, she was a train wreck, she didn't do anything to help the prosecution, i'm sorry. >> and you have the medical person at the end of friday saying he may have saved himself from dying. whatever he did to stop those blows coming may have saved his life. that's a person who actually looked at him and believed that his nose was broken. >> remember, it's what -- not so much what the medical doctor

says, what was in zimmerman's mind. did he have a reasonably good faith belief that he was going to die? >> that's the final issue, the jury has to decide if he's lying when he said i'm going to die. to my eyes -- >> it's going to be whether zimmerman is lying, why not look to the prosecution witness. let's look to the chief detective on the case who says he believes him. >> it's terrible. i can't -- the problem with this, we can all look at the tactics and sort of what goes on, but there's a 17-year-old child here that's just gone. he's gone, and his parents are sitting in the front row, and they must be wondering what are the prosecutors doing to sort of vindicate my child. >> there's no question about that. that's the problem, that's why we wonder, when you hear elementary things like think,

and the prosecutors just sit there and they wait 24 hours and they highlight stupid, then they have the detective -- they have the detective completely validating the defense case, have you the situation today, it's rather perplexing, whose team are they on? >> if it was a defense lawyer, it would be malpractice, unfortunately. >> not only malpractice, but it was the defense attorneys that had to bring out there were wounds on abrasion on trayvon martin's hand. and that came through this medical examiner. coming up, we heard george zimmerman talk about a rash of break-ins in his neighborhood. out there owning it. the ones getting involved and staying engaged.

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we spoke with george zimmerman about the neighborhood watch program. have you ever spoke ton george zimmerman? >> yes, i did. >> when was the first time you smoke toll george zimmerman ever in your life? >> at the clubhouse in december 2011, we had the sanford police out here, and he was kicking up the neighborhood watch. >> why did you have a neighborhood watch? had there been a problem in this neighborhood? >> we've had a history of break-ins, burglaries, drug activity over the last seven years that i've lived here. it's been a myriad of different types of crimes. >> after the shooting on the 26th of february, did you have any conversations at all with george zimmerman? >> yes, i did. i believe two days before, he was taken into custody, he had called me up on the phone, and he wanted me to share with

everybody several talking points. the night my home was in the process of being burglarized february 2nd, 2012, as to who the perpetrator was he was an individual that lived in our community that was responsible for not just the attempted burglary of my house, but two other burglaries that had been committed in this neighborhood. he also shared with me that on the night that he was out walk ing his dog, that he wanted me to let the public know he was carrying his weapon that night in addition to just walking the neighborhood. >> you never knew him to carry a weapon before that conversation? >> no. >> did you suspect his lawyer had said, call frank? >> he didn't retain an attorney

at that time. it wasn't until he was taken into custody. i think he had just got rid of sonner, and he more or less was on his own, when he made that call to me. and he also shared with me the methods in which the burglars were using to rob people's homes. he noted that the trash days, when there was no trash that was put out, our trash pick up was on tuesday and thursday, and these individuals would notice that someone wasn't putting out their trash, that that was a potential victim. >> did you talk to him after that date, any other time? >> no, you only had one conversation since the shooting of february 26th, 2012 with george? >> yes. >> our legal panel is back. bernie, how important would it be or helpful to take the jury

out to the scene at night when it's essentially the same conditions, same darkness out there? would you revisit that with the judge? >> i'd love that. i've had it happen in a case. i had another homicide in west virginia, it was fascinating, in closing you can tell the jury, listen, you saw what i saw. unlike pictures, unlike witnesses testimony, we eyeballed the place that it happened. i think that's critical. your witness, the walk-through you got, i mean, just -- don't get me started, because what zimmerman did, he started to pour the foundation on his defense before it even got started before he even got charged. there's somebody that broke into your house, i know who did it, it's a black male. we don't have any evidence. and he's responsible for two other burglaries, this black male, and also by the way, i carry a gun, just in case the

public asks did you carry a gun that night? no, he carries it all the time. i'm enraged by this. if there's african-americans watching the show, i talked to folks that are good friends of mine, the words clubhouse in gated community don't resonate real well with african-americans. >> let me go to osterman. we have some tape of the best friend who testified in court. >> trayvon had reached down and grabbed for the gun, whether it was on the leather holster or on the actual metal part itself. at the time i didn't see a difference. i just throughout that the intent was clear, and that's when he had to -- he freed one of his hands and went and got the gun. he either broke contact or knocked somebody else's hand away.

trayvon's hand away from him reaching for the gun or grabbing the gun. and then he blew it. >> that is the best friend of george zimmerman called by the state, he wrote a book shortly after this incident occurred. testimony we just heard was an inconsistent statement with what george zimmerman said in some audio and video. overall, tell me how good you think this witness was? >> to me, this was the worst mistake the state of florida has made bar none. this guy was so sweet, so lovable, yet law enforcement. not only is he -- >> he's law enforcement? >> he's law enforcement. not only is george zimmerman a friend, he's the best friend i've ever had. he went on to tell george zimmerman's story so eloquently. he explained the incoistencies, the problems, he walked through it, he testified for george zimmerman so much better than george zimmerman could ever do for himself. this was a debacle.

i don't understand it, i will never understand it, all the state of florida got is, maybe he said he touched the gun. but you know what, i might have heard that wrong. >> 30 seconds. >> let me tell you, that was lame. the guy gets on and he says that he touched the gun, so they're trying to show an inconsistency. then they messed themselves up by putting on a latent fringer print expert who says there were no prints on the gun at all. so they -- they excised themselves of being able to show that even trayvon handled the gun. i mean, it's lame. >> we need to take a quick break, i want to caution the viewers that the jury gets to decide this case. we may turn out to be dead wrong in the end. it's happened before, stick around. coming up, how did sean hannity become the big story in the zimmerman trial today? stay right where you are. our live coverage from florida continues, and former

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here? >> i feel it was all god's plan, and for me to second guess it or judge it -- >> he never heard of stand your ground, prosecutors want to prove that point wrong. we go to jim hammer, jim, you thought about this, standing your ground, because now tomorrow the prosecution wants to introduce evidence they've taken courses where it was discussed. >> well, i'm worried now, because -- can you hear me, greta? >> yes. i'm worried, here's a little bit of what's going on, we talked in the last segment, can you get lost in the little trees and forest here. prosecutors get stuck on oh, i caught you in this little lie. i can prove this other little thing is off. unless you can get to the heart of the defendant's story, in this case, self-defense. put aside stand your ground, it's a name for self-defense. unless you can get to the heart of it, you lose the case. and the danger here with oh, did

he actually touch the gun or reach for it? had he ever heard of stand your ground? maybe you can say that was self-defense. you can see they lost track of what this is all about. i think there's good evidence for the prosecution in this case. there's a winnable piece here, not if you pick on these little things. >> the comment that's gotten -- >> certainly unfortunate. he was given that opportunity to walk that fine line between i didn't do anything legally wrong, but i'm horrified and saddened and regret terribly the outcome of that night. all he had to do was give a heartfelt i'm sorry somebody died and it was at my hand and he didn't take advantage of that. but it doesn't make him guilty. >> as a defense lawyer, would you have fought like crazy to keep that out? what's the relevance of that question at this point?

>> of the catholicism question? >> yeah, where he says, it's god's plan. you know, obviously, it's -- i mean, is that -- is that clear evidence in a trial? >> you don't want to get god in the courtroom. even though i've been forced to go to catholic institutions up until college. i mean, the problem here is, i must have missed cadicism when god said could you commit murder and it's okay. >> answer the question. it's an easy answer, don't inject that into a case, don't inject that into a case. i don't -- >> all right, but is it objectionable? should the defense -- maybe the defense did -- in prior motions, defense did -- in prior motions, should the defense have objected you make a great team.

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>> the employer mandate says if you are a company of more than 150 people, have you to provide health care. small businesses have said, this is unworkable. today, the obama administration essentially raising a white flag for an additional year, saying

we realize we can't enact this in time so we will put it off until 2015. >> all right. number 1, they passed obamacare in march of 2010, so they had four years to figure this out. that's quite a long time. number 2, this gets implemented after the mid-term elections -- this is going to be implemented in 2015, not before the 2014 elections. and number 3, it was just announced tonight when most in the media are gone. and a fourth one -- how long do you think they knew about this and they spent time doing damage control. if they told people six months ago, maybe businesses would have been creating jobs while they waited to see what happened. >> valid points, every single one of them. on the politics, the fact president obama won't have to deal with the fallout of this, it strikes a lot of folks as more than coincidental. this was on the books for 2014, now it will be 2015.

this is a huge priority for the obama administration. and they have said, we have this one. we know there are people who are wondering about whether this law is unmanageable and unworkable. don't worry about it. now they have said, even though we have had three-plus years, six months won't be enough. we need 18 months to become reality. any assurance have you had about how smooth the transition is going to be, that's under serious question tonight. >> i imagine the republicans who have been raising holy hell about it, saying it was going to hurt small business are probably now thinking, why didn't the obama administration realize this earlier since they have been making this call as well as small businesses. so this is going to have eye imagine, it will be a huge hammer to the democrats' head. >> this is going to rejuvenate efforts to repeal, replace, obamacare. republicans are going to say, we have been telling you this all along. this will put democrats in a tough spot. but a number of democrats have to be sighing relief that they

won't have to face the impact in 2014, if there are bumps along the road. they won't have to blame a law in effect, like the employer mandate. they are going to be put off. >> 1 to 10 scale, 10 being huge, how significant is this news to obamacare? how much of an impact? >> i give it a 7 1/2. this is a critical component of the law that will be put off for an entire year. >> rick, as always, thank you. >> thanks. >> coming up, an extremely tense situation in egypt, all signs are on ominous. crowds of protesters are getting bigger. you can see this, as egypt's political crisis gets worse and worse and worse. we have the latest, next. [ male announcer ] imagine this cute little orange blob is metamucil...

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