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from the muslim brotherhood. and the people are rising up, they wanted a new election, but now they want him to go. what will happen one minute from now? bill: remember this scene on the fourth of july tomorrow, folks. we've got to run. bye-bye. >> egypt is where we start today, back to that picture and many more. the deadline set by the military just reached. as we know it as of now president mohammed morsi is staying, and he's resolving to try to figure out what to do with this nation that is in political crisis. he was given 48 hours to figure out some sort of a plan, or the military said they would move in, they would help find their own solution. we'll try to figure out what that really means in the next few moments. mohammed morsi is now refusing to step down despite the millions of egyptians in the streets calling on him to leave, both mohammed morsi annie egypt's army demand tere pledging to die for their
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cause. now we've reached the hour that could trigger some sort of consequence. there's been a lot of hypotheticals given. it is a military take over, a military cue? does nothing take place? we are watching tahrir square bracing for a showdown and we'll bring you all the latest developments as they happen. and right now we have brand-new stories and breaking news. >> the george zimmerman murder trial about to resume right now following a short recess. the potentially game-changing ruling from the judge and all the latest developments. we are live with today's testimony just moments away. plus, a terrifying robbery caught on tape as a knife-wielding thief threatens employees at a popular fast-food restaurant. and he's just one of five surviving quadruple amputee veterans of afghanistan and iraq, sergeant travis mills takes the anchor seat to bring us up to speed on his inspiring
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recovery, "happening now" now. hello, everybody, i'm gregg jarrett in for jon scott. jenna: i'm jenna lee. the zimmerman trial about to get underway after a short recess. we are waiting testimony from a new witness any moments now. zimmerman's criminal law professor got off the stand that's what we watched this morning after the judge ruled they could present his college records which included a criminal justice course. how this is all figuring into the broader case is something we'll be talking about with phil keating. he's live outside the courthouse in sanford, florida. this was a major ruling some are saying in favor of the prosecution, why is that? >> reporter: without a doubt. this really bolsters the prosecution's case which they are trying to persuade this jury to believe that the night george zimmerman encountered trayvon martin he was a selfabsorbed koch wannabe.
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inside the courtroom right now the jury has just returned, and the next witness for the state continuing the testimony regarding zimmerman's prior interest in criminal law and a pursuit as a career as a cop perhaps will be a witness testifying by skype. they are still trying to line that out. earlier the criminal litigation professor that gave zimmerman an a in class he took the stand. zimmerman previously studied criminal law at a local community college, which captain alexis carter said included material covering florida's stand your ground law. >> it was something that i think the students really wanted to know about, it was so practical, that they were very much engag engaged. >> reporter: on cross-examination don west probed when reasonable fear for your life can entitle someone to retaliate. >> you don't have to wait until you're almost dead before you
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can defend yourself. >> no, no you probably don't do that. >> judge nelson allowed all of this evidence from zimmerman's past to be entered into court because zimmerman in an interview with fox's shawn hannity last year answered his question did you ever hear of of the stand your ground law in florida and zimmerman replied no. that allowed the prosecution to point out that is not necessarily true and here is the evidence, all of his criminal studies in college. jenna: since the judge allowed the past materials when it comes to zimmerman, what about trayvon martin's school records? those have been a matter of some question. are they going to be allowed in? >> reporter: yeah, that is exactly what mark o'meara argued this morning. if you're going to allow zimmerman's past long before he even met trayvon martin then you ought to let trayvon martin's school history, which of of course prior to the trial judge nelson disallowed from coming in
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as irrelevant in her opinion. she reiterated that again ruling against the defense. trayvon martin's school records included that he had been suspended three times, not relevant says the judge and without the jury present this was the winning legal argument on this past material. >> he tells officer serino, well you have justifiable use of force or homicide, he indicates that, and he also in that police -- the written statement he made for the police, he uses such phrases, as i unholstered my firearm, not i pulled my gun. >> reporter: but zimmerman's attorney argued what zimmerman studied before encounters trayvon martin two years before should not matter. >> if in fact what they are going to try and argue is he's a cop wannabe they have to show there is a connectivity between the two to make it relevant, and they failed to.
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>> reporter: inside the courtroom right now the skype interview with a former professor of george zimmerman, a man named gordan ples pleasance. he is testifying from ne is teso and the jury is in their seats. jenna: we'll rejoin the trial as it begins again. >> let's bring in judge andrew napolitano. the judge allows this professor to take the witness stand to say the defendant took this criminal justice course. judge, how is that relevant? >> well i would not have allowed it and i don't think it's relevant, unless the defense -- the defendant takes the stand and professes ignorance of the law, then you can contradict what the defendant said in order to show that he's not pwhraoef be believable in this instance. so you can say he's not be believable in other instances. if the defendant doesn't take the witness stand then inconsistencies in statement he made to the police or shawn hannity or everybody else are
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not relevant as to whether or not he is guilty of this crime. >> and the prejudicial effect arguably outweighs the probative value. let me take it a step further here. the defense nevertheless uses the ruling but uses it to try to convince the jury, hey, there is nothing sinister about wanting to be a police officer. it's a noble endeavour. >> not oit'y did the defense astute lee do that, the defense did what you and i were taught in law school years ago, turn them into your witness. get opinion testimony out of his mouth help fell to you. when defense counsel says to this professor of law, tell us how scanned your browned works you don't have to be bleeding to death before you can defend yourself, do you? oh, no, no, no you only need to have reasonable apprehension. thank you, that's what we needed to hear. he did it a little longer than how i've just done it. >> i was surprised that they
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allowed the professor to opine on the critical issue of self-defense here. at one point in time the professor then con tkpaousess the notion the doctrine of imperfect self-defense and excessive force. >> that can confuse the jury and i will tell you judges don't like professors on the witness stand telling the jury what the law is. judges like to tell the jury what the law is. so it's highly unusual for her to let this guy testify in the first place of his opinion. he can testify to what he taught the defendant but for him to say what he thi it -gs the law is very unusual. >> and he got it wrong. he gummed it all up. tlem throwing stuff at my tv set when he confuses imperfect self-defense -- >> he did get it right when he said how much fear do you have to have when you can using deadly force. that was strikingly good for the defense and not the government. >> here is essentially an abbreviated form of the jury instruction. this is what they really should consider and not what the
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witness said. a person is justified -- can we puft it on the screepu a person is justified in the use of deadly force and does not have a duty to retreat, ie stand your ground, if he reasonably believes such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himseave . the key word there, judge? >> reasonably. >> reasonably. >> and the way it's worded, it would be subjectselfe, that is t wouldn't be what a reasonable man would do, it's what this human being reasonably believed in his own mind, even if that belief was unreasonable. if he entertained it it's valid. >> all right. now let's go back to what was broached on the witness standby the professor. he started to try to define impe the doect selof defense. the truth about imperfect self-defense is, it is an honest but mistaken belief. >> yes. >> that your life is in imminent
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danger of serious bodily injury or death. ified defense, it's not pure excuse. >> that's right. sometimes i think that the government here is so assau noing zimmerman's thodid hts and waysf expressing himself, because they want to goed of him into getting on the witness stand. they'd love nothing more than to have him sit down as shawn hannity here but here under oath and owe blind to them the truth with all of these inconsistencies. on the other hand they have gotten so many versions of his events out there, all of which help them. there may be inconsistencies in thug. if he has a reasonable but mistaken belief that he is in jeopardy of his life i can use deadly force, which he did. >> on balance it's been eight days now of testimony. the prosecution's case. most of the witnesses have been more beneficial to the defense than the prosecution in your judgment? >> not even a close call.
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i would be calling the prosecutor up there and saying why are you pwreg in case? are you questioning this case because of race and politics or pao you think you can win it? because in this courtroom you haven't crossed the bar yet of what it takes to win this case. i'm in danger of dismissing it. this is what i'd be saying to thug at sidebar out of the presence of the jury, because so far they are wasting everybody atmosphere time. that is how tepid and weak their case is. >> prosecutors originally didn't want to charge, not enodid h evidence. only when ping iticians got involved and appointed a state prosecutor who doesn't have to try the case did they decide to charge. >> you're right on the mark, gregg. >> judge andrew napolitano, as alwady good to see you. you're going to stid i around. >> this is fascinating stuff. >> okay jenna. jenna: we'll move bad i to soashington d.c. where there is new information on nsa leaker edward snowden. soe are learning eight countries have said no or expressed serious reservations about granting him asylum. his options now shereefpl to be
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dwinhe uing as we believe he remains strand end in that same moscow airport. can you imagine? chief intelligence correebondent catherine herridge is live in washington with more on this. >> reporter: tha it you. this morning bing selfia's president finally left europe after his private jet was grounded for hours and apparently searched because of alleged suspicions he he might have the nsa leaker edward snowden on boangt. bolivia accusing the united states of pressuring european countries to block the president's flight from using thld r air space. in moscow tuesday for a summit of major energy exporters bolivia and venezpeala left the door open to snowden with vene foela's president saying snowden should be celebrated for revealing the u.s. goverbe cents ebying tactics. the state department dismissed russia media reports that venezuela's president might ebfait snomajen away on his prselfate jet after the energy conference. >> what would the united states' reebonse be to that if it happened. >> again it's speculating on a
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hypothetical. our fork us is on returning him to the u foe. wa the snowden case is unusual several nations including s eurin, norway, fiit'and, austria and ireland sadeang the nsa leaker must appy for asylum in person on their tehe citory and there are no exceseriions. meanwhile the nation's intelligence chief james clapper heading off critithe jis c he md congress or in effect lied to congress over this testimony in march. >> does the nsa collect any tufe of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of americans? >> no, sir. >> it does not? >> not witnessin wittingly. there are cases where they could inadvertently perhaps cing lect but not wittingly. ajep>> ree iss lin whatin a letter to senate intelligence committee chairwoman dianne fld nstein a rapper writes my response was
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a rearly ehe coneous for which i apologize. given clapper's public apoloa m it's not clear whether formal disciplinary action can be pursued by the committee or by senator wyden who asked that question. nna: we'll watch for details. >> details emerging about the violent past of a former ncc star charged with murder. how tim tcase.ow once had to ply peacemaker for aaron hernandez, peacemaker for aaron hernandez, breaking detail report. the white house delaying a key provision of the healthcare law. what it means for businesses and every working american nexlt the first time i saw a sony 4k tv, it was like opening my eyes.
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[chanting] jenna: listen to that crowd in tahrir square today. the deadline has come and gone, and this is what is "happening now" in egypt. an enormous crowd day after day is still in the square shouting, waiving flags. the deadline set by the military expired 25 minutes ago. president mohammed morsi case he will not resign. the nation's most powerful military leaders who are no longer working in tandem with
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the president said on our show on monday that if he did not resolve the political crisis, if if mohammed morsi did not they would move in with their own plan. the deadline for mohammed morsi to comply 25 minutes ago. mohammed morsi is pledging to die for his cause. he's also out with new comments. i'll tell you about those in a moment. what happens next? ambassador john bolton former ambassador to the u.n. and a contribute -bt joins us now. anyone's best guess ambassador about what happens next. walk us through a through different scenarios as you see them. >> i think what is happening now is that the military is talking both to opposition leaders and to the mohammed morsi government, and i don't think the military got into this very happily to begin with, they don't want to govern egypt, they want to protect their own sphere, the national security sphere and their own economic interest. what they see with demonstrations on the street is a lack of order and stability that continues to impair any
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possibility that egypt's economy can get out of the tank that it's in. so, everybody now, the lines have hardened. i if i this anything people have become more insistent that they want their way, and the potential for this degenerating and having a lot more violence, a lot more deaths on the streets i think is very, very high at this point. jenna: do you think we are witnessing the beginning of a civil war? >> well i certainly hope not. but let's be clear, there is a real irony here. the muslim brotherhood i have nothing whatever good to say about it. it's a government that is clearly against the interest of the united states, their argument is hey we had an election a year ago and we won. they've made hash out of the economy which is i think a large motivating factor for the people in the streets but the argument of the so-called prodemocracy force is we didn't like that last exercise in democracy, let's have another one and the military is trying to steer a course in between. i think the united states should be relying on the military,
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which lord knows we've given enough assistance too over the years and on elements of the opposition like the coptic kreugss. 20% of the egyptian population unanimous in their opposition to mohammed morsi and the muslim brotherhood, these are forces i think that would be -- that would act consistent with american interests. that's where we ought to be focusing our attention. jenna: we are already feeling the effect of this in our own wallets ambassador. we are seeing oil prices spike because there is concern about what is happening in egypt. the president over the last few days as been very clear that he will not pick or choose in this debate in egypt, but that he remains, and this is according to the white house, committed to the democratic process. it's interesting president mohammed morsi came out with a statement, and he in many ways echoed what the american president said and said, i'm not going to take sides. how do you see how we can influence this in any sort of productive way not only for egypt and its stability, but for
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our once great ally in this part of the world? >> well, let's be clear, president obama's position is mush. it's not understood. the people who are demonstrating now in tahrir square against mohammed morsi think the united states is on the side of the mohammed morsi government based on statements our ambassador to egypt has made. this morning we had the fine irony of hosni mubarak from his hospital bed calling on mohammed morsi to step down. i mean, we've now had such a confused american policy over the last two and a half years it's no wonder the people in egypt don't know where we are. so where i come back is to say, the fundamental american interest here is we want to stable egyptian government that upholds the camp david accords with israel, is of which is the cornerstone of our policy in the middle east for the last 30-plus years and we want a government that is stable enough to keep the suez canal open. i think the military can provide that stability. it's not come foesed of jeffrey season yan democrats but neither
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is the mohammed morsi government and neither are large chunks of the opposition. let's get the democratic theory out of this and look at american interests. jenna: we'll continue to watch the live pictures out of egypt and see who makes a phoef first. someone is going to do something, we just don't know what it's going to be right now. thank you so much for your expertise always. the crowd waves us to there and news develops. more breaking news stateside now. gregg: let's go live inside a florida courtroom in the trayvon martin-george zimmerman second-degree murder trial. on the witness stand right now is a firearms expert. there is john guy the assistant prosecutor. let's listen. >> to load a cartridge into the chamber that is the only way to get it in. >> if p the magazine was full could that be done? >> yes. >> explain to them how that is. >> with a loaded magazine with the capacity of this particular one is seven, you can pull back on the slide and release and it will load that top cartridge.
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then there will be one in the chamber and six in the magazine. if you desire you can release the magazine, load another one so the magazine would be full for a total of seven in the magazine. reinsert into the pistol so the total capacity between the magazine and chamber it will hold is eight. >> all right. do you recall how many cartridges were with the firearm that you received? >> i received seven cartridges total. >> and the magazine holds how many? >> seven. >> all right. so if that firearm had been fired with seven in the magazine does that mean that someone had to place a live round in the chamber? >> with the way i received it, with six in the magazine and then this additional one, it would be consistent with the magazine fully loaded and one in the chamber at the time it was fired. >> all right. does that firearm have any features that prevent and
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accidental discharge? >> yes, it has internal sav safeties. it is double-action only, which means that the firearm cannot be cocked unless the trigger is pulled. pulling the trigger will both dock and release the hammer which is located back here. it's also shrouded so you cannot get to it to be able to dock it. it also has a hammer block, which is a mechanical piece that prevents the hammer from being in contact with the firing pin unless the trigger is pulled and then that will tropical out of the way and allow the hammer to hit the firing pin. >> what do you mean by trigger travel? >> trigger travel distance is the distance that the trigger has to be pulled rearward in order to release the firing mechanism or in this case, dock and release the hammer. >> what is the distance or relative distance of the trigger travel distance on this particular firearm? >> this particular gun has a longer distance than most typical pistols. >> is that another feature that
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would help prevent an accidental discharge? >> yes, you have to pull back significantly in order to release the firing mechanism. >> did you also receive a holster with that exhibit, with that firearm? >> yes. >> would you show that to the jury and show them how the two go together? >> this is the holster. there is a clip on the back. >> that would be the total size of it if a person were to wear that on their hip either inside or outside of their clothes. >> yes. >> thank you, ma'am, you may resume your seat. >> could i have the deputy to do that? >> your honor if i might i'll be asking her some questions and using it with the lock off as well. i don't know if you want to wait -- [inaudible] >> all right, miss seaward what
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is meant by the term triggerpull. >> tigger pull is the amount of force required to release the firing mechanism. >> and are you able to measure that with any particular firearm? >> yes. >> did you measure that with this firearm? >> i did. >> explain to the jury how you did that. >> are i hung a series of known weights from the shooting position of the trigger where the finger will rest, and i kept adding weights until the trigger was pulled and the hammer cocked and released. >> and what did you find when you measured the triggerpull? >> it was between 4.5 and 4 3/4-pound. >> is that within the manufacturer's specifications? >> yes, it is. >> did you also receive a fired cartridge case with this evidence? >> yes. >> how many? >> i received one fired cartridge case. >> your honor may i approach the witness? let me show huh state's 147, ask you if you you recognize that. >> i do.
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>> and how do you recognize that? >> that case number, exhibit number and my initials. >> what do you recognize it to be. >> it is one fired .9mm lugar caliber cartridge case. >> when you receive a firearm and a tpaoeurpld casing are yo fired indicating are you able to determine whether that particular casing came from that particular firearm? remember. >> how can you do that? >> with a submitted firearm and magazine, i will use laboratory and/or evidence ammunition to test fire that pistol. i will then collect the fired cartridge cases and compare those microscopically to the evidence cartridge cases that i received. >> did you do that with the shell casing or cartridge case in this case, and also the kel tech pistol. >> yes. >> what did you find. >> the cartridge case was fired from the pistol. >> did you receive some bullet fragments in this case. >> yes i did. >> may i approach the witness?
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>> yes, you may. >> let me he show you state's 165, ask you if you recognize that. >> yes. >> how do you recognize 165. >> with the case number, exhibit number and my admonishes. >> what is contained in that exhibit. >> there is one fired jacket portion, two fired bullet jackets fragments and one le lead core. >> when you receive parts of a bullet or fragments of a bullet in a firearm are you able to compare those to determine whether or not those fragments were fired from a particular firearm. >> yes. >> explain to the jury how you do that. >> similar to the cartridge cases i'll use the bullet that i've test-fired from the submitted firearm, and compare those microscopically to the submitted evidence bullet or bullet fragments. >> and did you do that with the fragments in this case in the kel tech pistol. >> i did. >> what did you find.
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>> the fired bullet jacket portion was fired from the pistol. the two smaller fragments where are inconclusive and the bullet core is not suitable for microscopic examination. >> when you say inconclusive what do you mean? >> i was not abel to determine whether they were or were not fired from the pistol. >> why is that? >> a lack of detail on them. they were very damaged. they had very small pourings of rifling on them. >> is it apparent that those fragments hit something that the bullet was caused to fragment like that? >> yes. >> did you also receive some clothing in connection with thiscase? >> i did. >> and if you received clothing in connection with a firearms case are you able to determine or attempt to determine the distance between the muzzle of a firearm and the clothing at the time the firearm was fired? >> yes. >> how does that work? how do you do that? >> when a gun is fired a cloud of partially pwurpbld an burned
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and none burned powder particles, particulate lead as well as smoke and glasses will follow the bullet out of the barrel. this can leave a pattern on an object or if the firearm is in contact with a particular object no pattern will be left but other physical effects will be present. >> and did you conduct those tests in this case with the clothing you received and the .9mm pistol? >> i did. >> your honor may she step down again? >> she may. >> thank you. let me ask you this. stay right there if you would. gregg: this is a firearms expert called by the prosecution in a shooting case you always have to introduce the physical evidence, the weapon, and have somebody who can authenticate, explain how it worked, how it was tested. in this particular case this firearms expert did precisely that. you have to show the chain of custody. taken from the defendant the
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night of the shooting, all the way until today. let's listen back in. >> i'm going to ask you to examine the packaging from 155 and tell the members of the jury whether or not you recognize it. >> i do. >> and how do you recognize it? >> the case number, exhibit number of and my initials. >> all right. is this an item of clothing that you examined in this case? >> yes it is. >> and conducted distance testing on. >> yes. >> all right. you can put that back in here. >> all right. explain to the jury first what this is, what you saw, and what you did. >> this was and item of evidence that i examined for distance determination, and what i did was i was looking at the area surrounding this hole, i was
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looking nor partially burned or unburned gunpowder particles. i was looking for any type of sooting present around this hole as well as looking algt the ends of the fibers as to whether they were blackened, or singed or melting. >> and how -- whether they were blackened or seupbl singed or -- >> melted. >> if you could standby the court reporter that would help. what did you do to test fire with this particular item? did you take a cutting from it or what did you do? >> i did. i removed a portion of the back of the sweatshirt for testing purposes. >> all right. and if i could turn this around. can you show the members of the jury where you removed the fabric to conduct your test? >> right from this area. >> all right. we can put it back that way. thank you.
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>> and this is a sweatshirt. >> yes. >> again if you could show the members of the jury the area you focused on having a bullet path through it. >> this area right here is where i was looking, right underneath. >> as with the previous exhibit did you make a cutting from the exit? >> i did. >> and is that the ticket on the back of the exhibit, if you would just come around and look? >> yes, it is. >> both the cutting and then the area on the sweatshirt. >> yes. >> let's show that to the jury. an >> and that's been displayed with a bullet hole through it from your test fire. >> yes.
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>> in conducting the test fires did you chap tour your analysis with photography? >> yes, i did. >> let me ask you to look, then, at state's 122. your honor if we could have assistance with the lights. and if i may approach the witness. >> yes, you may. >> it works by depressing that button right there at the top. what is state's 122 first? >> this is a pic picture of the outer sweatshirt that i had examined for distance determination. >> and explain to the members of the jury just the significance of the items that you've marked on the exhibit. >> sure. this is an overall shot of the
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sweatshirt. i mentioned the distance about 9 inches down from the top shoulder seem an showed shoulder seam, and approximately 7 inches in from the sidearm seams. >> in state's 123, what is depicted there? >> it's a little difficult to see with the particular color of the fabric. but what i was looking at here are a few -- there are a few gunpowder particles surrounding this as well as some blackening right around the hole, as well as some tearing of the fabric, and burning and sibling singing on the fabric holes. >> will is that a close-up of the sweatshirt. >> yes it is. >> state's 124 what is that. >> that is inside of that same area. right here you can see a little better the blackening that i was looking at. >> that is what close-up of the inside of the sweatshirt? >> yes. >> all right. and state's 125, what is
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depicted there? >> that was the distance test that i had made using a portion of that sweatshirt. >> just take them through how you conducted distance tests, what ammunition you use and why. >> absolutely. using the submitted pistol and submitted ammunition i test-fired into portions of both garments that i received, and the reason for doing so is the pattern that can be left behind using a particular firearm or ammunition can vary greatly depending on the length of the barrel, the size and style of the bullet, as well as the amount, shape and burn rate of the gunpowder contained within the cartridge. >> so you actually used one of the seven live round that you received with the exhibit to conduct this test? >> yes. >> all right state's 126, what do we see there?
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>> that is a close-up of the distance test that i had made, the arrows are pointing to diagonal tear that occurred in the fabric. >> when you conducted the distance test with the kel-tech pistol and the hooded sweatshirt, what did you determine about the distance between the muzzle of the gun and the material at the time the gun was discharged? >> the clothing displayed residues and physical effects consistent with a contact shot. >> meaning the muzzle, or the end of the barrel of the gun was up against the sweatshirt when it was fired? >> correct. >> all right. let's go to state's 127. what is that? >> this is the other sweatshirt that i had received to do distance determination on. >> again, you made measurements of where the hole is relative on the sweatshirt?
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>> yes. >> all right. incidentally, if both of those sweatshirts were being worn in their intended fashion, that is forward, do the two bullet holes line up? >> they do. >> 128, what do we see there? >> with this we are looking at the tearing of the fabric, you can see there are a few gunpowder particles, which are not easilyee picketed in this photo. gregg: this is the firearms expert who is testifying essentially a point-blank range shot. what will be interesting is if prosecutors try to use her or another expert to say whether trayvon martin was on top, or on bottom to tell the jury who was attacking whom. don't know if that will happen yet. we will look out for it. you can watch the entire trial streaming live right here on foxnews.com. we'll come back to it live as it merits. we'll be right back. backflips and cartwheels.
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jenna: now to staff sergeant taf advice mills. it was april of last year when we first reported on travis. he was on foot control in afghanistan during his third deployment when an ied explosion nearly took his live. his wife joined us on the phones days after the attack. obviously this is what he would love to do, and still loves to do is serve his country. where do you think that comes from in him? where is that from? >> the way he was raised, i guess. he was born to be a leader, and he was born for everybody to listen to him. his personality demands attention and everybody that has ever met him will help him forever. i mean, he's just that kind of guy. jenna: traffic is traveled from afghanistan to germany and even
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in his precarious physical state kelsey was right. he was a star patient while undergoing five surgeries before being flown back to the state. at walter reed bethesda he's gone through six more. we continue to check in with travis' family throughout the next several weeks and a little more than a month after the attack we were surprised when travis joined us live for his own interview. we are so happy to talk to you, travis, just how are you doing? >> i'm doing really good. i mean, i'm moving pretty quick through this place. it doesn't get any better than being here i guess. jenna: with only six weeks since the aeu fact travis is already in the gym working on standing for the very first time on his prosthetics but his thoughts remained with his men back in afghanistan. >> i miss them, and i wish i was there, i wish i didn't have ra case of the mondays on april 10th and had a bad day at work. every now and then people have bad days at work and my bad day in work had me come back to the states.
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everybody has a bad day, bad things happen and life is just sometimes tough. my life is not over it got a little more unique. i may have my legs and arms gone but with all the technology and everything they are doing for me. i'll be able to drive, walk, i can still talk and i still have my moneymaker, i didn't get hit in the face. jenna: one year a*g today travis brought his moneymaker to the set for the very first time. >> what is the goal right now? >> i mean to walk is a really big one for me. the trampoline is the cardio. when my guys get back later on in the year i want to be on short legs, it makes me 5'4". i'm really 6'2". my goal is to get my 6'2" legs and stand in my uniform, make a hand on this one and be able to salute my guys when they come in. jenna: travis accomplished that goal and many others as well and he's back with us today. we'll celebrate the year. if you have questions for travis you've seen a the love him over the last few days, and we are glad to share that you with, but
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we want your questions to be answered so you can sweet me at jennafn c or email us. we'll share your questions with travis and he will join us in about 45 minutes. we are looking forward to that. gregg: the george zimmerman murder trial is certainly underway today. right now a crime laboratory firearms analyst testifying about the gun that zimmerman used when he shot trayvon martin. let's bring into the conversation our fox news senior judicial analyst judge andrew napolitano. kwr-b jus napolitano. they have to awe authenticate case and demonstrate the weapon. we have heard the defense may have an expert of their own that will be able to say that trayvon martin was on top leaning forward attacking based on the angle, trajectory and other forensics. >> when either side its going to produce an expert and an expert is permitted to give his or her opinion to the jury in the field
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of expertise, the expert writes a report and the reports are e changed. so the defense knows what this lady is going to testify about, and the prosecutors know what the defense expert, if he or she testifies will testify about. we haven't seen those reports so we don't know where she's going. thus far she has very professionally, methodically, and without controversy related what she discovered. this bullet came out of this gun, and made this hole in this clothing. she may also be anticipating defense expert testimony that trayvon was on top of mr. zimmerman at the time zimmerman fired the shot. she hasn't got even there yet but she may be going there, in which case she would give an opinion the opposite of that. now how can two experts looking at the same scientific data come up with opposite opinions? that's what you have experts for. >> reasonable minds can differ. >> yes they usually do when you are paying them they do what the state wants them to do within
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the realm of reasonableness and as their discipline permits. >> in my years as a defense attorney i could always find somebody who could present my point of view, and the cynic that i became said -- >> you're cynical? >> i could buy an expert to say anything. i used to say that all the time. >> there is an old joke about expert. you say to the expert what is two plus two? and the the expert says, whatever you want it to be. whatever you want i'll say. i don't want to diminish it. the court listens to the expert testimony first and makes sure it's scientifically found and gives them leeway on the ultimate opinion. >> it may prove to be a wash. we'll wait and see as the testimony unfolds inside this florida courtroom. we will continue to monitor the developments here. a firearms expert who has been talking about the weapon, she tested it, the ammunition that was used, she also has introduced and authenticated the sweatshirt that was worn by trayvon martin the night he died. we'll be right back with more of
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starting at $49 installed. hurry. offer ends july 8th. adt. always there. jenna: fox news alert. coming up on an hour after the deadline by the military to meet opposition leaders a variety of reports coming from a different sources what is happening in egypt as we're witnessing tahrir square. massive crowds continue to protest the morsi government. this is unconfirmed at this time at least. we're hearing potentially there has been a travel ban that has been placed on president morsi and other officials. that is one of the reports we're hearing. we're hearing potentially the military has somehow taken over
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the state press or is involved in the state television offices. that is a report we've seen over the last several hours. one of morsi's top advisors who has been very vocal over the last few days says a military coup is underway. you have to consider the source on that. we've only seen one helicopter fly over this crowd. for the most part this picture has not changed the last hour. what happens tonight? what about violence? what about the pro-morsi supporters also in the streets? there is at love activity in egypt. a myriad of unconfirmed reports. we're working our best to bring you the information and bring it to you as we get more developments. ybeth: welcome back to our second hour of apping now. inside a florida courtroom, another day in the george zimmerman second-degree murder trial. on the witness stand is a firearms expert who examined and tested the weapon used in shooting of trayvon martin.
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here is mark o'mara on cross-examination for the defense. let's listen. >> talk about the shirts themselves. you said the shirts would have lined up, corrects? >> yes. >> obviously there was one hole-in-one and hole in the other. when you took the shirts and lined them up they match, correct? >> you're not suggesting that the shirts are in any particular configuration on the body, are you? >> no. >> they were where they were but certainly the bullet went through both shirts where they were lined up with the bullet hole? >> yes. >> okay. and, let's talk about the actual, when you say contact. mr. guy suggested that pressed into. i think you corrected him to say, it was touching, correct? >> yes. >> there was no evidence, for example, that would show up that you would take a, the gun muzzle
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and push it into the shirt some way where the shirt would fold around it, was there? >> no. it was consistent with muzzle of the firearm touching. >> it was consistent with this, correct? >> yes. >> shirt, firearm? >> yeah. >> wasn't consistent with this, right, pushing or anything? >> no. >> that would have shown a completely different configuration to you, right? >> to me, contact is when the muzzle is touching the fabric. >> okay. >> whether it's, a light touching or whether it is pressed in all the way. the fact that the muzzle was touching the garment itself was, what i had determined. >> right. certainly had the gun actually been sort of smothered by the shirt, or by a sheet, then, fired, you would have seen a much different patting on that, right? because the fire then would have wrapped back around it somewhat? >> potentially if it was wrapped
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around it. >> correct. >> yes. >> as a matter of fact, any configuration that suggests something other than than flat, would have shown some different stippling potential or burning from the way flame would have bounced around it, correct? >> in terms of farther away or closer? >> no. if it was in contact. >> okay. >> pushed in, to the extent that it folded the fabric around it, that would have shown a different type of burn pattern, potentially, correct? >> potentially if the sweatshirt had gone over the top of the ejection port area there would possibly be marks from that but otherwise whether it was lightly touching or pressed in, it would be the same, same type of physical effects that i had seen. >> and when you say touching, is that a term of art, it actually
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was touching or in this case when you saw a couple of, i thought you said, you saw a couple of little burn spots of maybe powder had escaped was that consistent with being an 1/8 of an inch away or a 1/4 of an inch away or what? >> it is consistent with muzzle touching the garment itself. >> that you can tell because there is tearing itself, the way a projectile at that range rips through the fabric? >> yes. >> did you do any examination to identify the distance that the bullet traveled before it hit mr. martin's chest? >> no. i only examined the clothing for distance determinations. >> may i have a moment, your
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honor? >> yes, you may. ybeth: well the defense may be -- >> defense may be setting up on cross-examination of the firearms expert, what their own defense expert, assuming they call one may say, that is the position of trayvon martin. >> ever your experience with fdle to actually look at, at the, injury or flesh wound occurring by bullet entering it? >> no. i do examination of clothing. >> okay. whenever the bullet before it gets to the body where you stop, correct? >> yes. >> in your analysis. >> yes. >> thank you, your honor. no further questions. >> any redirect? >> just briefly. miss siewert, you were asked questions whether or not that
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firearm could be used for self-defense. it also could be used to commit a murder? >> the firearm can be used for any purpose -- >> object, your honor, if i might, that is speculation. and would affect the ultimate facts best jury. question before the jury. >> sustained. >> you were asked about the trigger pull. can you give the members of the jury an idea whether or not four pound or a little bit more than four pounds is relatively light or relatively heavy trigger pull? >> four 1/2 pound is within the normal range of trigger pulls that i see in my case work. >> so it's not a heavy trigger pull? >> no, it is not. >> and you were asked questions about the firearm being fully loaded. can you explain to the members of the jury, if the magazine is full and there's a live round in the chamber, on that particular firearm, what must a person do to expel a bullet? >> pull the trigger to fire the
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gun at that point in time. >> that's it? there is no other, there is nothing heavy to turn off or adjust? you just pull the trigger? >> correct. >> but they do make firearms what you refer to as an external safety, right? >> yes. >> can you explain to the jury how those work and the purpose of those? >> sure. an external safety is typically a button, a knob, something that you physically have to engage to prevent the firearm from firing. >> and, where are those typically located on the firearm? >> more times than not you find them right back here on either the left or the right side but those are typically referred to as thumb safeties. all you need is your thumb to disengage it or engage it. >> that firearm does not have any type of external safety? >> no. >> all right. with firearm in the condition it is right now, unloaded are you able to demonstrate for the jury how to pull the trigger to make
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that sound? >> yes. >> your honor, may she do that? may she demonstrate, pointing it into the wall? >> yes. >> well, i will use my left just so you can see. one more. >> and that is all someone would need to do to fire a shot if it was fully loaded? >> yes. thank you, ma'am. judge, that is all i have. >> any recross? >> very brief on that point. this gun, the safety mechanism requires that same amount of pull for every time you want to shoot the gun, correct? >> yes. >> do you agree there are other semiautomatic weapons, a number of them, where, while the first shot may be a double action pull, the ones after that are single action, correct? >> yes, there are some firearms designed that way. >> sig sauers are all that way,
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colts are all that way, right? >> some of them, yes. >> what that means, while you can rack it and shoot with a 4 1/2, five pound pull or distance, every other one is feather weight, right? >> a single-pound trigger pull is going to be lighter than a double action trigger pull but when you have a firearm that is both single action, double action, pulling back on the slide and releasing, while you chamber a cartridge will leave the pistol in single action. so firing it that way will be the single action trigger pull which will be lighter than a double. however, a lot of these firearms also have what's called a decock safety which is essentially another thumb safety where you depress it and it will allow the hammer to fall without causing the gun to fire. and then by pulling the trigger, at that stage it is going to be a double action trigger pull
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while all remaining ones, if you do not decock are going to be at the single action trigger pull which is lighter. >> so, with this gun, if i wanted to shoot it one time, four 1/2 inch pull, correct? >> four 1/2 -- >> pounds. >> 4 and 3/4 pounds. >> 4 and 3/4 pounds pull. and second shot, again, 4 and 3/4 pull, correct? >> yes. >> if i had my sig sauer nine millimeter with me, first one, four 1/2 pound, correct? >> i'm going to object to the relevance of a different firearm. >> sustained. >> any other firearm that goes from double to single, i think you probably could -- >> [inaudible] >> i'm, now i'm moving on to the next question. >> we're still talking on firearms other than this firearm. >> well, she has now identified, if i might be heard -- >> but the objection is relevance. that objection is sustained. >> then, this firearm,
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additional safety measures is that each pull has to be the full pull, correct? >> as opposed to shifting to single action after the first pull? >> that's a design feature of a pistol that is either only single action or only double action where it has the same trigger pull for each shot. >> which means that even, second, third, fourth shot require a full four 1/2, to four and 3/4-pound pull? >> yes, each pull of the trigger requires the same amount of force. >> that is different than it would be if it was a single actions correct? >> yes. >> thank you. nothing further, your honor. >> any re-redirect? >> no thank you. >> may miss siewert be excused? >> yes. >> you are excused. please put the lock back on the firearm. >> so the prosecution presents a firearms expert who authenticated the weapon that was used. explained how she tested it and
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then the most relevant part of our testimony was that the end of the barrel was up against the shirt, the sweatshirt and hoodie that was worn by trayvon martin. the defense on cross-examination, and this may prove to be important, wanted to make the point that the end of the gun, the barrel of the gun was simply up against it. it was not pushing up and through and they may have an expert that they will put on the witness stand who is going to say their testing demonstrates that trayvon martin was on top of zimmerman and the angle and trajectory and forensics showed that his arms were up as if he was in the process of striking george zimmerman. we don't know that for sure. but there has been some suggestion the defense may do that. and the cross-examination seemed to suggest that that is where they may be heading. we're going to continue to follow what's happening in the george zimmerman second agree murder trial -- second-degree murder trial. they're likely going into a lunchtime recess right now.
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the jurors i believe are being adjourned from the courtroom. stay tuned for more of our coverage as soon as further witnesses are called. in the meantime, lots more news. jenna: certainly a country in crisis as we look a tahrir square. a look and a listen. [shouting] more than an hour has passed sips this deadline by the military that president morsi do something to engage the opposition. many of the supporters of the opposition make up that crowd in tahrir square. we're hearing a few different additional reports than the ones we brought you at the top of the hour including one from reuters that says president morsi is at work right now. questions whether or not he is able to move freely in the city of cairo. we're keeping an eye on that report. we're getting a report from our pentagon here in the united states. apparently our twins secretary contacted the head of the egyptian military, just over the
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last day, and you're and really encouraged the military to make sure there is not violence. the situation in the streets and whatever happens next does not erupt into not only millions of people protesting but millions of people in some sort of a violent situation. we'll see what those warnings suggest over the next several hours or so. conor powell is streaming live in cairo. he really has a front row seat what shaping there. conor, fill us in what you're watching and seeing today. >> reporter: jenna, as of right now the deadline has passed. but it doesn't appear anything substantial changed here in egypt although we're waiting on developments. just a few minutes before the deadline passed, mohammed morsi, the president here who the crowds in tahrir square do want to leave, he issued a statement i'm not leaving. i'm democratically elected and i'm staying put. the military is apparently still in talk with opposition leaders.
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what they're talking about we don't know. it is not clear if there is any plan going forward but the military says they will issue some type of statement in the near future when they're done with talks. now in morsi's statement that he released on facebook he called on the military not to take sides. he said that he would be willing to form some type of a coalition government. this however, this is not a new offer. this is something he made in the past and it has been rejected by the crowds in tahrir square and by the military. what the actual agreement that might be coming to here tonight if there is anything that would be worked out is still really unclear. morsi is not giving in. now members of his government are essentially calling this a military coup. although it doesn't appear that the military has stormed any buildings, has arrested anyone yet. we don't actually know what the status of president morsi is at this exact moment but we haven't heard he has been arrested or been confined to an office or anything like that. so there are still a lot of unclear questions what is happening out here.
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the crowds in tahrir square are growing right now but there has been real concern about violence going forward. late last night more than 500 or so pro-morsi demonstrators were injured. a dozen or so, maybe more were killed reportedly. so there's been some fighting and some violence outside of tahrir square, which is more the -- for the most part has been a party-like atmosphere. they have been celebrating the last hour or two or not clear what exactly they're celebrating since nothing here, jenna, seems to have changed. there is a real concern going forward, political change could be coming to egypt but we're still waiting at this moment to see exactly what might transpire. jenna? jenna: connor powell live in cairo. back to egypt as news warrants. conor, thank you. >> the white house is announcing a year-long delay for a key piece to president obama's health care law. the move pushes back the requirement for businesses to provide health insurance to employees or pay a penalty until after the midterm election. the "national journal" is
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arguing that the delay may work against some democrats saying, quote, the decision will still be politically useful health lao are painting the administration as incompetent. a flood of press releases tuesday night described the law as unworkable. it's implementation, a train wreck. and the delay as evidence that all of obamacare should be taken off the books. quote, this is a clear acknowledgement that the law sun workable and it underscores the need to repeal the law and replace it, said house speaker john boehner in a statement. juan williams is a fox news political analyst. he joins us now with his reaction. how much of a set back is this for the white house? i might add, democrats have rip understood this law. jay rockefeller called it, incomprehensible. famously max baucus, a democrats said, it's a train wreck. >> i think in both cases you have people who said the white house need to do more to
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get out there and sell it. what happened yesterday with that announcement, gregg, without a doubt a significant step backwards for the obamacare effort. and i think it is a real victory for people who have been seeking to undermine it and people opposed to it. republicans have been uniform saying they don't like it. they don't want it. they don't have an agenda of their own on this front. they have been clear in their opposition. for the opposition, this is definitely fed the fire. >> gregg: what about politically, juan? pretty obvious this thing is being delayed until after the midterm elections. that is mighty convenient, isn't it, juan? >> no doubt bit, gregg. i think part of that is about the midterms and about trying to limit the damage to democrats as they're out there on the campaign trail. remember for the last two cycles what we've seen, obamacare has been a major, major issue. was a major issue in 2010 when we saw a republican wave.
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>> right. >> it was less of an issue during the last presidential election 2012 because mitt romney was an advocate of much of the same kind of health care proposal, the one he put in place in massachusetts. that can hide the fact at the state and local, congressional level, it was still an issue. and if you look at the polls right now, it remains a divisive issue. it is not overwhelming but it is pretty clear there is substantial opposition to this law. so the idea of pushing back, especially, remember, this is pushing back the reporting for the big businesses. >> right. >> so a lot of opposition was coming from the business community, from the u.s. chamber of commerce. that is not going to be there. >> it is not just this. health care exchanges are a mess. the gao just did a study and found that 85% of the health care exchanges are way, way behind. >> yeah. >> and then, you saw "the wall street journal" lead story on monday. they did their own study. they found that for tens of millions of healthy americans, they will have sticker shock.
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double and triple the premiums which is in line with study at stanford university. my goodness, the political fallout for this, juan, when people start getting, you know, their premium notices, it is going to be stunning. >> no, no. hold on. i think some of that is true but a little bit of it is hype. what you've got, gregg, a situation with "the wall street journal" revealed where a healthy, nonsmoking male, i believe age 40, is going to have to pay a higher premium, just what you described. remember 85% of the country, 85% of americans have health insurance. we're not going to be affected but for someone who is in that situation buying short-term insurance they will be affected. this would allow people, who don't have health insurance. >> right. >> who have preexisting conditions to also be covered because the insurance company will have to cover those people. but in earlies of it the politics, gregg, what we're talking about this morning this, is a big setback for the obama administration and a huge victory for all the critics.
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that is why all the republicans are running out there with press releases. you see democrats scurrying away to hide. >> juan williams, good to see you. thanks so much. >> you're welcome, gregg. jenna: we'll go back to egypt. our next guest up says get ready for a bloody road ahead. bret stevens of "wall street journal" one... more... step! [ mom ] my little girl...she loves to help out on big jobs. good thing there's bounty select-a-size. it's the smaller powerful sheet
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jenna: let's take a look there at tahrir square live pictures out of egypt right now. bret stevens is standing by. he is a foreign affairs columnist. probably give awe better title than that, bret, for "the wall street journal" he just wrote a little bit on egypt this week. you were just there about two years ago. you were talking in break how this, what you're seeing now compares to the first wave of, seeing egyptians coming into the
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street and demanding change. how does this compare to that? >> this is larger. don't forget, jenna, that was huge. this gives you a scale of not hundred of thousands of people in tahrir square and surrounding streets but probably well over a million. so the force of the crowd here is absolutely overwhelming. and of course, this is happening in tandem with what appears to be a military coup in progress as i speak. jenna: you believe this is happening? because we're getting different reports on it. what are you hearing? >> what i'm hearing there is restrictions on travel of muslim brotherhood leaders. that the army is securing state television. that soldiers are at least surrounding it. it is not in it. we're not quite sure about that. soldiers in gaza -- geza, where the pyramid are, outskirts of cairo. it has the makings of a coup in process. jenna: one of the points in your article this week, muslim brotherhood and islamists will
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not go quietly. we should prepare for a bloody road ahead. why do you say that? >> in fact after i published the column, you heard president mohammed morsi about a call for jihad. you heard similar statements by the general, the defense minister, also saying he is willing to shed blood. the muslim brotherhood waited 80 years to get in power. now they have it, they will not go quietly. the army has to think what happens the day after the coup? do they really have a plan for governing egypt. jenna: looking at images and think thinking about cairo, cairo was site of several years ago of the president's big speech, one of his first big speeches as president of the united states wanting to engage with muslim world. it remains a place, especially with arab spring, that almost seems to have led the wave on that. how do you just see the last several years? this is one of our biggest, physically speaking, biggest allies in this part of the world. now what is it? >> it is interesting. i think president obama's
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rhetoric is always kind of weirdly mistimed. remember the first couple years of his administration he supported mubarak. hillary clinton called mubarak a family friend of the clinton family. there was a revolution and the administration says, oh, we're on the side of the revolution. in fact became rather close or was perceived to become rather close to the muslim brotherhood, to mohammed morsi. now those people you see in the streets suspect that the obama administration is actually colluding with the, the morsi government. jenna: but are we? >> well, look this is the great question best administration. are they going to support those millions of people that you're seeing in the streets as they did during the demonstrations two years ago? or are they going to support, quote, unquote, democratically elected government of egypt? if they're doing so, i hope the united states does not put its weight behind a party at its heart is a totalitarian party, that is the muslim brotherhood. jenna: something to consider. bret, thank you. always great to have you.
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we'll continue to watch developments in cairo. gregg? gregg: the world is on edge to see what is happening there. we'll continue to cover it. we're also covering the george zimmerman murder trial. our legal panel is getting ready to weigh in on the judge's major ruling today and what it means for the case and how today's testimony has gone so far. you can catch the trial, by the way streaming live, uninterrupted on foxnews.com. of course we've been following staff sergeant travis mills's story from the very beginning when he lost all four limbs fighting for our country in afghanistan. we've tracked his incredible recovery and now, check him out. we're going to be talking to him live right here on the set in just a moment. don't go away. ♪ (girl) what does that say?
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jenna: fox news alert now. we're taking you back to cairo where we're getting information from the muslim brotherhood themselves. this is the source of the information, saying some members of their party have been arrested. waiting for confirmation on that. we have heard and reporting over the last half hour or so some are suggesting a military coup is underway in egypt right now but we haven't confirmed those reports quite yet. a fast-moving developing situation. we'll keep you posted as we hear more. gregg: welcome back. we are continuing to follow what is happening inside the courtroom in the george zimmerman case. lunch recess right now but the witness testimony moving very, very fast as the jury heard from a firearms expert, she testified about the gun used by zimmerman during the deadly confrontation with trayvon martin. then explained that the residue and tearing on martin's sweatshirt shows that the gun was touching martin's chest when it was fired.
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this comes after two witnesses testified about zimmerman's past criminal justice history. the judge allowing evidence about a college course he took on self-defense in a ruling made just today. this could an problem for the defense after the jury saw a videotape of zimmerman's interview with our own sean hannity yesterday where zimmerman said he did not know about florida's stand your ground law. joining us faith jenkins. former prosecutor. james merchant a criminal defense attorney. ashley, is it a big deal or not that zimmerman said he didn't know anything about stand your ground and the professor said, yep, i taught that? >> it is semantics, gregg. i think it is not a big deal at all. the fact that he says he doesn't remember learning stand your ground is not a big deal. i went to law school in florida. i don't remember learning something about stand your ground. i remember talking about self-defense. i think it is semantics. if that is all the state has to go on, i think their case is in
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trouble. gregg: faith, what do you think? >> i think this is part of the prosecutor's narrative they want to argue in their closing statements. not only george zimmerman lied about this and other things to completely discredit his story, but also to show he was an overzealous wannabe cop and what they said in their opening statement. this is just something to follow up on that. gregg: yeah. >> he wanted to be a police officer. he tried. he failed. he took all of these criminal justice classes. and as a result he is this overzealous neighborhood watch guy patrolling his neighborhood with a loaded gun. gregg: you know on cross-examination, ashley, this professor nicely explained the jury instruction on self-defense. that you don't have to retreat. if you're in fear of imminent serious bodily injury or death you're allowed to use deadly force some that -- >> these witnesses were great. gregg: that is helpful for the defense, isn't it? >> definitely. they were great for the defense. we got to hear over and over and
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the jury got to hear over and over the definition of self-defense from various different witness, legal professors, scholars, criminal justice professors. this jury has gotten a great education on self-defense. i think that helps the defense. gregg: until the professor misexplained the law. he totally bungled it. he started talking about the doctrine imperfect self-defense. which is an honest, and, but sincere and sincere but mistaken belief that, that you're in danger. then he went on to describe, then he went on, faith, to describe excessive force and he confused the two concepts. so he is leaving the jury with an enormous confusion which is probably why this professor should not have been allowed to testify in the first place, faith. >> well, but the jury at the end of the trial is going to get clear instructions from the judge on what laws will be applicable and what they can consider. here, although george zimmerman hasn't taken the witness stand the prosecution chose to put in
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his statements. it is enough for them to get a jury charge on self-defense. so they're going to get the proper charges and make the determination, based on what the judge said, not based on what these witnesses have said about the law. gregg: all right. now, what about the firearms expert? a woman who was very, just the facts, sir, and ma'am. really nicely explained the use of the weapon in this case. authenticated it. and then said the barrel of the gun was up against the shirt worn by trayvon martin. now, is there anything there that will affect the jury? >> i think so. i think this has been a theme throughout this trial. evidence from the defense has been that trayvon martin was on top and leaning over george zimmerman. and the evidence from this firearms examiner actually corroborated that because she testified that the gun would have touch touched his shirt but not necessarily his skin. we heard from prior witnesses. so that means he had to have been hanging over him and the shirt sort of hanging off his body. i think that is very important
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because it shows martin was on top of zimmerman. gregg: i think the defense has their own expert who will say precisely that. >> right. i don't think the prosecutor is refuting that. i think that they're arguing the use of deadly force here and how the gun was placed up against, trayvon, pressed up against trayvon martin's chest in a place where perhaps it didn't need to be. he wasn't shot in the leg or shoulder or the arm. he was shot in the heart. gregg: got to go. faith and ashlee, good to see you both. >> thank you. gregg: jenna? jenna: our next guest really needs no introduction. staff sergeant travis mills lost all four limbs in an ied explosion while serving in afghanistan. we began to talk to him in the spring last year. this is the first time he joined us in studio? what is the goal right now? >> to walk. that is really big one to me. the trampoline is cardio. when my guys get back later on in the year. i have want to be on my tall
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legs. those are my short legs. i'm really five foot four. i'm really six two. i want to stand in uniform and salute my guys when they come in. jenna: salve sergeant travis mills joins us now. >> good morning or afternoon. jenna: it all works. >> it all works. jenna: you walk understood studio. you met your goal? >> that six foot, six 1/2 right now. jenna: you're not six two yet? >> i'm working my way slowly but surely. you go up a little bit? >> yeah. jenna: six feet is good. you look good six feet. >> taller i look the leaner i look so. jenna: what is the next goal? the goal last year, we spoke to you exactly a year ago was the goal was to walk. we're seeing you do walk and running. other sports. what is next? >> we'll be getting running legs to have the swinging knees pretty soon. hoping to start doing biathlons and triathelons. jenna: really?
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>> i'm not going to be anywhere as good as dan who is third in the world or something. he is pretty amazing. i think what i will do. i will go on tour or circuit, if you will. set up little events and raise money for nonprofit organizations doing mini triathelons. 500-meter swim. two mile run, 10-mile bike ride. i'm setting up biking legs. reincumbent bike. something to challenge myself and push me forward. go around speaking and living life i guess. jenna: you mentioned dan. that was a navy seal, good friend of ours, my family, who is double amputee, right? lost both legs and is an amazing athlete. one of the things that you talked about at walter reed, how you guys work together and how some of the friendships that you developed and relationships between the seniors and the freshmen really help you. >> yeah. jenna: we didn't get too much into the package with that that we ran yesterday. talk to our viewers who is the senior and who are the freshmen?
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>> now, i guess i've graduated up to senior right now, or moved up and progressed. there are new guys coming in from the spring offensive that happens overseas every year and, you know, they have come back in the fight during the spring and summertime months. now, i've been there a year which a lot of guys are there for a year, a little bit, two years. i just, i keep progressing. i go help all them out. new guys look up to me like i looked up to the guys that were there when i was a new guy. the military has a brotherhood of it own, everybody knows that wounded guy is small brotherhood within the military brotherhood. we build off each other. push each other and make fun of each other. people don't understand our jokes but going that way. jenna: being in walter reed i witnessed a little bit of that you're funny. >> and i fell. jenna: we also show that, it wasn't for the camera. >> no. my socket was twisted a little bit. i decided to stand up to get up
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quick, i was on a little bit of a lift and my foot gave out. but i fell. jenna: it scared me a little bit. i heard it. didn't see it. but you got back up. i'm burying the lead in all of this following your recovery. you need to tell our viewers being a movie star. >> oh. jenna: that is your next step. what is that all about? >> brad pitt and me, no. nonprofit out of texas contacted me. they decided they wanted to produce a film, just to documentary kind of catching a little bit before this happened. what is happening now and where i'm going in the future. they did a phenomenal job. jenna: i had to stop you, so our viewers know what is going on the screen. they had you replay the event and, watching it is, very moving, travis. hard to watch. >> yeah. right now as you see it on the screen, that is my actual medis that saved my life. they were able to come into the filming. so the four other soldiers in
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the film, are the two medics that saved my life and two soldiers hit with me that were my personal guys on my squad that were underneath plea. they came back and it was kind of weird. i've been through it. it was weird for them to see it all again. jenna: we'll look forward to see the movie. it will come out later on in the year. we have questions from our viewers how they can help. we have a surprise for you. you have to stay through the commercial. you can't go anywhere. >> okay. jenna: our viewers have to stay lear. gregg will have to move for this. gregg, you're all right with that right? gregg: i'm totally cool with this. we're very proud of you, travis. great job. we have a surprise. stick around right here. when we come back some dramatic developments in egypt. massive crowds flooding cairo's tahrir square as a travel ban is instituted against president morsi. is it more than that? amid widespread reports that a military coup is underway in egypt. live with the breaking news. a new twist in the steroid scandal involving yankees
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jenna: here's the surprise. last spring when we talked to travis for the first time we had a little conversation about what he would like to do in the future and jon scott promised travis something. check this out. >> i still have my moneymaker. i didn't get hit in the face so. jenna: you know what? let's talk about that moneymaker for a second, travis, because i hear one of your goals is to co-host a show. is that true? >> yeah. you know, i don't need to co-host. i can be a guest. but i love -- jenna: because i was going to volunteer jon could take a break. anytime you want to come into fox news and share the set with me. >> with all good pleasure. jenna: more than welcome,
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travis. are you game for that? >> definitely. jenna: you can't tell me that and we're not going to do it. come on, travis, we had to do it. you look good, right, in jon's chair? sit up. >> all right. jenna: julie has the report but you're going to toss to julie. that will be your camera. take him on his camera. just, you know go for it,. >> just run with it. thanks, jenna. alex rodriguez's career hanging in the balance. according to "tmz," a whistle-blower has proof they bought steroids. julie is live in the new york city newsroom with more. >> good job, travis. your moneymaker beat's gregg jarretts that's for sure. one million dollars to potentially end a-rod's career, travis. that is what whistle-blower saying mlb needs to fork over to get info on drug purchasing records for more than 100 major league baseball players including alex rodriguez and ryan braun according to "tmz."
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porter fisher, an ex-employee at bide owe genesis:ic in miami allegedly has proof a-rod and other players bought steroid and wants at least a million bucks for info. his attorney tells "tmz," his client sat down with mlb investigators to begin talks. mlb officials want info as part of investigation of performance ends handing drugs used by players this is video is a-rod playing minor league ball on a rehab assignment after hip surgery in january. no word whether major league baseball will pay seven figures. fisher and mlb plan on meeting again. stay tuned, travis. you have to come back to anchor the intro when we get an update what unfolds here. gregg, i think you can take off the rest of the hour. i think he has your job down pat. gregg: julie thinks baseball is the game with the big ball put it in the hoop at the end. court. >> no, that is tennis. gregg: that is how much she knows about sports. jenna: you two forget it.
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travis, you did a really good job. get a little round of applause from the studio. thank you very much. what do you think? >> i'm a natural. i watched anchorman. so i know all about this. no, that is nerve blacking. >> but you did great. >> i stumbled. i couldn't say alex rodriguez. jenna: checking it off the list. >> yeah. jenna: first time. many more times to come. i have a feeling travis is made for prime time, right? yeah. jenna: none of this middle of the day stuff. thanks for coming back to the studio. >> thank you. jenna: before we go, we have only 40 seconds. viewers want to know how to stay up with you, how they can help? what is the best way to do that? >> there are bunch of things i'm a part of the building with america's bravest with megyn killly. they have commercials out. all the things they're doing is phenomenal. they can find that our bravest.com. jenna: our bravest.com. >> there will be a link. jenna: ourbravest.org. >> owe, dot-org.
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there are links to various organizations that will, definitely be very happy if you help them out with all the things they're doing. jenna: we'll make sure all of that is on the website so you guys can reach travis. we'll be back with more "happening now." [applause] hey linda! what are you guys doing? having some fiber! with new phillips' fiber good gummies. they're fruity delicious! just two gummies have 4 grams of fiber! to help support gularity! i want some... [ woman ] hop on over! [ marge ] fiber the fun way, from phillips'. [ woman ] hop on over! could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. mmmhmmm...everybody knows that. well, did you know that old macdonald was a really bad speller? your word is...cow. cow. cow. c...o...w... ...e...i...e...i...o. [buzzer] dangnabbit. geico. fifteen minutes could save you...well, you know.
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jenna: we're getting a little bit more information what is happening in cairoexpect over tl hours as we continue to watch protests in the streets and wonder what will happen with this deadline the military placed for president morsi to engage with opposition. here is what our team says on the ground. apparently the military is meeting with various political parties. remember there are a lost political parties. the opposition is not just one group. it just not why just one leader. that is one of the issues here, gregg, folks would like to see
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president morsi step down. president morsi says, hey, i was democratically elected. the next question is who would take his place and who do the people really want in government? gregg: what they want is better economy. their unemployment has doubled over the course of morsi's presidency. they have seen an energy crisises the likes of nobody has seen anywhere in a long, long time with long gas lines and rolling blackouts. they have high inflation and it just has been an economic disaster for tens of millions of people in egypt and there are millions right there, protesting and have been now for days. jenna: critics will say that president morsi concentrated on being too much of an islamist in government. he said he was no longer part of the muslim brotherhood when he took office but that is his roots and people say the muslim brotherhood very much dominates this government. that was a very big concern about the public in egypt how
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religion would work its way in to the way the new government would be structured and that is part of the protests. some say that morsi should have concentrated on the economy. gregg: sure. jenna: not setting up the government in the way they have. gregg: critics say this is the problem with islamist governments. they are not steeped in knowledge and experience associated with the marketplace and economics. they don't know how to run an economy. they may be a very adept political organization but when it comes to governing, the actual hard work of governing, they have no experience, don't know how to do it. jenna: our team says the next few hours we'll hear something from these meetings between the military and the opposition. we'll be right back. more coverage on fox news throughout the day.
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next. >> congratulations to travis his family. >> if you ever get sick or something. >> i am taking early retirement, travis and warming up the chair for you. that's it for us. america live begins right now. >> fox news alert. welcome everybody here on my last day on america live. egypt a lot of news happening there as it is on the brick of a second major revolution for a key american ally. a military coup is underway and that is a big headline, welcome to america live everyone,im megyn kelly. tension is running high in the heart of carotene. and demands that the president of egypt step down. huge crowd, huge. some are saying it could be the biggest that have been anywhere gathering in protest. pouring in tar i square and
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