>> our national sovereignty is at stake. thank you for what you did. great job. >> that is all the time we have left this evening. as always, thank you for being with us. we'll see you back soon on "hannity." this hour, the government collecting hundreds of millions of phone records, secretly obtaining reporter e-mails, building massive digital storage centers. >> wow. it's huge. >> yeah, gigantic. >> your life on a database. >> what you can learn about a person? >> trace and track all along. >> what can they do with all that information? >> what do you think would surprise people most about data mining? >> how do you protect your privacy? >> how many of have you an iphone, android, ipad, galaxy? wow. >> john roberts back on the case, fox news reporting, your secret's out. >> in the u.s. capitol behind me that age of instantaneous

information began. the first telegraph line between here and baltimore here in 1844. first transmit? what hath god wrought? what hath samuel morse wrought? all of us generate almost a continuous trail of electronic data. it can be stored, analyzed, by who knows whom for who knows what purpose? we know that government is tapping into a lot of data. phone records, e-mails, web postings, provided by private internet companies and video feeds like in the wake of the boston marathon bombing. a series of stories may have you thinking, should i be creeped out? or comforted? this hour, we'll try and sort some of the out for you. we begin with a visitor to my

home in atlanta. >> hey, frank, john. >> nice to meet you. >> great to meet you too. thank you. >> in a prior life, frank ahearn made a living as a skip tracer, sort of private investigator who tracks down people who skip town and don't want to be found. he would use the proverbial paper trail which back in the day was literally made of paper. phone bills, credit cards, receipts and so on. he agreed to come to my home outside of atlanta to follow me around to show how today's paperless paper trail makes it almost impossible to hide. >> frank, just woke up, had a cup of coffee, pull out the laptop, the data gathering, where does it begin? >> the minute you turn it on. you let your ip company know are you there and you're ready to wrong. the ip knows about it google knows about us, yahoo! knows about us, the e-mail company knows about it us.

>> ahearn said he didn't have this kind of detailed information back in the skip tracing days. >> you would see a phone record, frank called ted at whatever hour. with e-mails, frank e-mailed ted, and this is what he wrote. >> let's pause for a second. ahearn's words of caution hit close to home at fox news. we recently learned that the government collected e-mails from the chief washington correspondent james rosen in connection with a leaks investigation. who is sending? who is receiving? what they are saying and when? each e-mail generates a lot of raw information about ourselves. and according to the chipmaker, intel, we send more than 204 million per minute. every one, ahearn says, indelible. >> if we delete things from our account, is it actually deleted? >> the only delete button have you is on the laptop. no delete button on the internet. >> the internet is forever?

>> oh, yeah. >> and not just e-mails that can last forever. on average, every minute, at least 6 million facebook pages and 1.3 million youtube videos are viewed. i just turned on my television set. what have i done by doing that? >> let the cable tv company know, one, you're home, two, you are changing the channel, two, they know what you are watching. >> hit the pause button again. you probably figure the cable company knew that. but later on, we'll tell you how data mining experts working for president obama's campaign drilled into that information as part of an unprecedented get out the vote effort in 2012. did your tv remote help re-elect the president? stay tuned. netflix analyze when you pause, rewind, fast forward or dump out of a show early. in fact, netflix used this data to help develop its original

series "house of cards." something similar happening with my kindle. i do more and more of my reading on it, books and daily papers too. some of the e-readers are reporting back to how quickly i'm reading, the words i'm highlighting, that's incredible. >> this is a prime example. you buy a book online and find out, wow, they are tracking me. >> i've already left a fairly substantial digital trail so far and barely even left the house. so go run some errands and see what other breadcrumbs we dropped. first thing, i punch in the customer loyalty number. >> did you read the terms of services? >> i didn't. >> that's a problem. >> many of the terms of service agreements are a way to learn more about you as a consumer. >> these are opt-in relations p

relationships, why are you saying this is my identity, here is my name, here is my address. >> brian kennedy the ceo of epsilon, a leading data driven marketing services firm. his company builds profiles to help businesses market to them more directly. >> you have information on 250 million people. area code, telephone, bank card, bank card issue date, education level, income, child date of birth, dwelling type. would you be comfortable giving up as much information about yourself as you have about a lot of people out there? >> yes. absolutely. no qualms. >> no qualms because kennedy says that peek into your private world will make your life as a consumer much more satisfying. which brings me to my next stop with frank ahearn, the pharmacy.

so, frank this is pretty innocuous, pediatric sall iine nasal mist. >> your credit card company knows you have a child, and the pharmacy has a record of you having a child. >> if i sent an e-mail, go get some gas, go to the pharmacy and pick something up, what can you learn about a person? >> you have been traced and tracked all along, consolidating is the big problem and scary part. >> a quick stop by the atm where my picture is taken and my bank records the transaction. and as i take off down the road, any number of traffic cameras record my route. frank, coming up to the toll booth here. what are we watching for? >> cameras, number one, taking pictures of your license plate. you have the pass, they have a record of where you are going. >> and where you came from.

>> i finally arrive at the office. inside, i can hardly make a move that isn't recorded in some form. like most big companies, fox news used security cameras and warns us our online activity may be monitored, but it say personal device, my smartphone, that concerns ahearn the most. >> that's the gold mine of information. i mean, your phone calls, your texts, physical location, the apps you use, the e-mails, it's nearly unlimited. >> by now, you are surely thinking that all of the digital information has made the job of the skip tracer, finding people who would rather stay lost, a lot easier, and you're right. we said at the beginning, ahearn is no longer in that line of business. it turns out, big data has opened up a more profitable line of work. he is now helping people disappear. >> people are victims of

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♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ there's a line o attributed to thomas jefferson. an informed citizenry is the bulwark of democracy. what happens when politicians know more about us than we know about them? my colleague, peter boyer, from

new york. >> thanks, john. we've been hearing for weeks how this government has been sweeping up information about american citizens, the reasons given? security, efficiency, and some suggest political gain. one thing we do know from last fall's election, this president and his team, understand the political power of big data. >> thank you, america. god bless you. god bless these united states. >> i so wish i had been able to fulfill your hopes to lead the country in a different direction. the nation chose another leader. >> to nearly half of america, mitt romney's half, election night 2012 came as a shock, with a terrible economy at home and new dangers abroad, president obama seemed so beatable. but romney didn't know what obama knew.

>> all right. >> obama's team used an advantage of incumbency. time and money. to create something new. >> the perfect political corporation. >> sasha issenberg wrote the book on this new kind of political campaigning. >> make sure people how to vote. >> by harnessing tata by tv viewing habits, social network, voting history, the obama campaign made a profile of every single persuadable voter in the country. then they targeted people with personalized messages and coaxed them to the polls. >> these are basically like pharmaceutical trials, where the voters are the guinea pigs. >> this was developed in this plain looking washington, d.c. office building, home to the afl-cio. inside, a secretive entity, called the analyst institute. what is the analyst institute?

>> a consortium of liberal groups, parties, campaigns, consultants, were asked to do science in secret to help win elections. >> reporter: this is like a political manhattan project. it was first seen in a michigan governor's race six years ago. a couple of researchers, testing a concept called identity salience. >> they randomly assigned voters to get one of several preelection get out the vote reminders. and one said something like, dear peter, here is your history as a voter and here is the neighbor's vote histories. and then there was a threat. >> they threatened to tell your neighbor you didn't vote. >> the obama team recognized behavioral psychology could influence how people behaved. a consortium psychologists helped to define mitt romney and the campaign embedded several people from the analyst institute into the re-election

headquarters in chicago. what was the cave? >> the cave is where we put the analysts. >> carol davidson, director of integration and media. >> hard core analysts in the cave, more top-secret room. you don't want people to see on the screens of everyone, and during the election, we didn't really want people to know that the group even existed. >> the president's tech teams worked algorhythms to see who was persuadable and carol developed something called the optimizer, what television shows the persuadables were watching and when. this was sold by some of your cable companies. >> we were able to get the data from vendors, ingest it into the system and pair that data to the

voter file data. >> there is also something creepy about this much data being out there and used in a political campaign. >> you get e-mails or mail sent to your house all the time, you didn't know the person who sent to them, and they didn't know your name. hi, peter, this is barack obama. it may be jarring and freak you out. so is it a difference? or really a concern about invading your life? >> give me an example of a program i might not expect to see a political ad on. >> we aired on "judge judy," all over the place. >> they were running shows on 60 different cable stations and romney was on 15 different cable stations. >> patrick rafinni has been preaching to his political party for years about the power of data. >> i don't think this is a question of beinged ahead and behind, but it's a question of being on two different planets.

>> karl rove a fox news contributor and was close to the romney campaign. >> democrats have a big advantage. both sides microtargeted. the democrats took it to the next level. >> rove insists republicans can compete and will win the new political arms race. that will excite many gops. will this give us better manipulateors than better leaders? what about old style political gut and leadership, out trying to sell an idea to people and convince voters this idea is worth voting for? >> you put your finger on a good thing. because if you rely on the data to dictate everything to you, you make no room for leadership. responsibility of leadership is not to follow, but to mold public opinion in the right direction. >> as we just seen, data is power. so how would you feel about a new government data center, big

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before the -- the fourth amendment to the constitution drafted in 1789 declared the fourth amendment to the constitution, drafted in 1789, declared among other things that a person's papers would not be subject to unreasonable searches. we should be able to keep letters, diaries, writings, private. 140 years later, 1929, secretary of state henry l.stimpson echoed that sentiment when he declared, gentlemen don't read each other's mail. a new electronic age and a new political age, posing threats we can't ignore.

pearl harbor taught america what it didn't know could hurt it very much. a need to be up on enemy intelligence. >> this form of stretchry shall never again endanger us. >> after world war ii, the cold war and threat of global comm e communism. out of a debate ultimately calm the national security agency. or nsa. in the 1950s, the spy center so secretive, the joke was the initials stood for no such agency. >> what did the president know and when did he know it? >> after watergate, however, people wanted to know what the spy agencies were really up to. in 1975, general lou allen became the first director of the nsa to testify publicly before congress.

the agency, once so secretive, was exposed. the public learned that it was aven eavesdropping on messages into and out of country in response, in 1978, the federal government passed fisa, the foreign intelligence security act. they needed to get warrants before performing certain surveillance in the united states. the nsa adapted and moved on. with the fall of the soviet union, its mission seemed urgent to many, and the nsa lagged hunted in latest technology. as general michael hayden took chart in 1999, in an age of telecommunications breakthroughs, the nsa was becoming deaf. but 9/11 delivered a shock that was loud enough for everyone to hear. the nsa got a bigger budget and

a new mission, stop the next attack, and we're now learning more about the nsa's vast capabilities to monitor what all of us do on line. which leads to us things like massive data collection center being built in the utah desert. >> really a turn key situation where it could be turned quickly and become a totalitarian state quickly. >> how comfortable are you with the government being able to know so much? that's next. i want to make things more secure.

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even electrons take up space, though not much. i even electrons take up space, not much. i bought the memory card, $59. 64 gigabyte. this can hold almost 30,000 copies of this book "war & peace." staggering. what's more staggering is an nsa data center, five times the size of the capital behind me, essentially held with memory cards and computer chips. you may not know about it, but as kathryn herridge reports, it may soon know about you. >> bluffdale, utah. 25 miles due south of salt lake city and just west of the middle of nowhere, a massive construction project is nearing completion. the heavily secured site belo

belongeds to the national security agency. >> people call it the spy center. >> reporter: that's what jasmine and amy, who work at the local sandwich shoply to me last summer. >> do you know what they are going to do there? >> collect data? >> reporter: as good a guess as any. >> a lot of rumors fly around. oh, monitoring or, you know -- no one knows. >> we were approached a couple of years ago about possibly bringing water. >> mark reed is bluffdale city manager. asked how to supply the center with its extraordinary water requirements. >> built a large pump station and a 3 million gallon tank to store the water. >> reporter: a 3 million water tank, just to run the air conditioning to cool the computers. the nsa will neither confirm nor deny specifics, but some estimate it will be able to

store five zetabites. one terabyte about 62 iphones, 19 inches high. one petabyte would reach higher than the empire state building. an exabyte, higher than the international space station, and one sfwlnch ettabyte would reach past the moon if it really has five zettabytes, it could store every cell phone data, and e-mail search for a very long time. >> what will they do there? >> i don't know. it's classified. >> reporter: you have seen the reports, e-mails, phone records,

banking records, all of that. >> been on a tour, seen the facilities. general overview of what they are doing. the specifics and details, you need to get from them. >> reporter: all the nsa would tell us, it is for the intelligence community with a major focus on cyber security. we weren't given access, so we took to the sky. look real close, 500 feet over the utah data center this is close as you will get without a security clearance. >> you can see the cranes after 12:00. >> reporter: from the sky, it's huge. >> gigantic. >> reporter: two weeks after aerial filming, the fbi questioned our pilot about who he flew over the sensitive government site. a facility that has an increasing number of critics. raises the most serious questions about the vast amount of data that could be kept in one place from many, many different sources.

>> tom brake a senior official at nsa before august 2001 to 2008 before he resigned for reasons we'll tell you about in a second. are we talking about e-mail traffic, facebook postings? telephone calls, traveli itinera itineraries? >> i don't know. the nsa is not saying, but i would suggest that and even more. >> drake says that americans could be concerned about this. >> a perfect security state would be "1984." george orwell. >> bill benny worked at the nsa for nearly four decades, starting as a data analyst in the days before desk top computers. after known, the nsa began a warrantless surveillance program approved by george bush.

>> telcons, billing data, people in the united states call people in the united states. i think they were collecting on the order of 3 billion a day. >> reporter: 3 billion a day, internal to this country. >> just to this country. >> reporter: nsa is spying on people in this country? binny thought it was wrong and quit in protest. "the new york times" exposed it in 2005. in 2007, the nsa officially discontinued the program, the same year, suspecting he was the source of the "the new york times" laeneaks, the fbi raideds home. >> my son answered the door. i was in the shower, one guy came in and pointed the gun at my head. >> reporter: binny denies being a leaker and ultimately not charged with any crimes. but a fellow whistleblower was.

remember tom drake? his house searched too. he was indicted on five counts of espionage. the government dropped those charges when drake pleaded guilty to misusing a government reporter. >> the agreement with the reporter, i would not share anything that was classified. >> i continue to believe it was effective, lawful, and it was appropriate. >> reporter: as the director of the nsa from 1999 to 2005, general michael hayden was drake and binny's boss. >> they may have a different view, god bless them. this is america, have a different view. i think it made america safe during a period of great danger. >> reporter: hayden says binny and drake were simply wrong, uninformed when they said the program was i willegaillegal. congress amended the foreign intelligence service act, and president obama, who reauthorized the law agreed.

that makes drake as worried as ever. he believes president obama has used that power more aggressively than the democrat they accu person that was accused of shredding the constitution. >> if anything, the secrecy regime, expanded. >> far less transparent than the bush administration? >> actually, less. >> reporter: and they are fierce critics of the massive utah data center, saying it would have a nearly limitless capacity to pry into american's digital lives. >> the real question, what could they do with it? what are the controls, the oversight? >> reporter: we hoped the current director of the national security agency, general keith alexander would answer. when he declined requests to sit down for an interview, we stopped by the offices of a

washington thinktank, where alexander was speaking at a cyber security event. will the utah data center hold the data of american citizens? >> no, we don't hold data on u.s. citizens. they take protecting your civil liberties and privacy as the most important thing they do in securing in nation and so when people just oh, they'll have all this stuff at utah data center, that's ballo ballo that's baloney. i'm not going to tell you what we're doing in utah. that would give our adversaries an advantage. we're not going to do that. >> reporter: this is about the possibility that the government's stunning new capacity to collect, store, and an l

analyze data will tempt less than noble leaders. >> it could become a totalitarian state quickly. the capacity to do that is being set up. if we get the wrong person in office or in the government, they could make that happen quickly. life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. we balance those three virtues all the time. the question people like me ask the american people is so how much more do you want me to do? >> what can a government computer know? and how can it know it? with the nsa mum, we go to si silicon valley for answers. a little later. how many of you have an iphone, andro android, ipad, galaxy. wow. teaching kids how not to ruin their lives with a smartphone. take theseags to room 12 please. [ garth ] bjors small busiss earns double miles on every purchase every day. produce delivery. [ bjorn ] just put it on my spark card.

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business. man who knew too much. all videos that recently deceased judge john bork once rented. his rental history was leaked to the press. this privacy violation so outraged people, in 1988, congress made it a federal crime to disclose someone's video rental records. now numerous websites don't merely know what you've watched, but what you want to watch next. most people assume that the government can know a lot more than that. can they? claudia cowen reports. >> reporter: after the boston marathon bombings of april 15th where three were killed and hundreds injured, americans were asking, why hadn't the authorities flagged the suspects, dzhokhar and tamerlan

tsavraev earlier? the russian government had warned the u.s. he was interviewed with other family members in 2011. they looked into travel, internet use and personal associations, but didn't find enough to consider him a terrorist threat. then when he took a trip to russia in 2012 to meet with underground groups, the fbi missed that. the reason? his name was misspelled on the passenger list, perhaps intentionally. another chance lost to connect the dots. the point is, it's one thing to have the data. it's another to understand its significance. >> when we data mine, we're teaching the computer how to go through large amounts of data. >> gary angel founded symphonic, one of the most experienced players in the data mining game, recently acquired by ernst & young. >> this collects things off places like twitter.

>> reporter: a big part deals with scanning the web and analyzing data. not unlike what government agencies try to do. sift through the noise of world's electronic communications, analyze fragments of troubling data and connect the dots before a threat materializes and they are pushing to expand their capacity to do it. what do you think would surprise people the most about data mining? what don't they know? >> how clumsy it is. how much works goes into even getting a simple find. >> reporter: the biggest challenge isn't collecting and storing the information, u.s. making sense of it all. >> i picked a selection of terms that a national security person might be in. radioactive or nuclear power or bridges or stations, airports. here is the tricky part. if we miss stuff, we don't know it. that's really bad. on the other hand, if you turn

up lots and lots of things that you say might be threats and none of them are, people lose confidence in the data. the old crying wolf syndrome. >> even big brother faces roadblocks. if the government wants to track you. it'sabili its ability to gather data like at this massive nsa data center your honor construction in utah will allow them to do it. >> that being said, people should be realistic. no human reader looking at e-mails. it's impossible. the human will only look at things interesting or important. >> reporter: and then the interaction between cold data and live humans where synergy takes place. for if the failure to connect the dots before the boston bombings was a case where the investigators misread the data, a different story when the authorities had a more specific idea what to look for. they combed through countless photographs and hours of

footage. not only allowing them to zero in on the bombers, but to avoid false leads that can waste valuable time. and the turning point came when they released the information on april 1 t8 to get the help. they were allegedly planning to go to new york and set off more explosives. who knows how many more have died if not what could be seen as an ultimately successful data mining operation. >> when we return, growing up in an age where all those stupid things you do, can live forever on the internet. when you experience something great, you want to share it. with everyone.

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in the late 1800s, future supreme court justice worried

about a new phenomenon, snapshot photography. if newspapers could snap and print any he one's picture, what would happen to our privacy? year hes later on phenomenon, snapshot photography. if newspapers could snap and print any one's picture, what would happen to our privacy? years later on the bench he wrote that the right free people value most is the right to be left alone. if that's still through, why are so many people putting so much out there on-line? >> what do you think are some of the thing you need to think about before you put a photo on-line? >> welcome to the elementary school in southampton. kevin is steeching his 6th grade class how not to ruin their lives with their iphones or whatever gets them on-line. >> we have been doing it for about three years. partly because i was noticing my students talking about their lives on facebook and it was clear they weren't quite sure how to navigate through that. >> you should ask yourself do

you really need to put this up there. >> do you really need to put this up there. >> one of the things i notice with 11-year-olds they are fearless of technology they will dive in whatever it is and figure out the ramifications. >> what can be the harmful effects be. >> talking about developing a digital personality right now that will impact going to jobs in the future and colleges. hard for a kid to grasp. >> i tell my kids you can't do things or say things a certain way it will follow you. >> stacy's son anthony is in his class. she also has a tenth grade daughter francesca both have laptops and i pads. >> what are your concerns about that? >> i want them to go to college some day. i want them to not have the admissions office come and say, well, this is happening when you were in high school or in 7th grade or things like that. >> of course it wouldn't be -- or things like this, teenage

girls defended him on facebook and twitter and posting, too pretty to be guilty. comments that were picked up by a number of news sites and condemned. at the same time however, think about all the people that got rich and famous thanks to many a parents worst nightmare in the internet age. kim kardashian sex tape was up loaded on the internet. soon she was a reality show star and the center of a multi million dollar empire. paris hilton was a local new york socialite hoping for a reality show hit. her sex tape on the internet helped make that happen. >> charlie sheen's career was teetering on the brink. he began tweeting all sorts of embarrassing messages and posting videos that in an earlier day would have finished him. as it happens, these days you can dig yourself out of a hole by shoveling deeper. >> they would rather have the fame and celebrity than have i guess i would call it a sense of self-respect.

>> daniel hettinger of the editorial page calls it the world of indiscretion. >> do you keep that in the back of your mind that your son out daughter may do something outrageous just to get known. >> i didn't until you were telling me. i am thinking oh my goodness. >> it is scary for me to think that way. >> he captures one of the great paradoxes of the digital age. novelist george other well managed our society in which every movement is monitored by an all seeing figure called big brother. today big data has far more ability than even orwell imaged to see, record, analyze everything we do. to even know much of what we think. but one thing would surely surprise orwell. instead of citizens demanding their privacy they can't wait to give it away.

>> if the root end is behaving like a moron a lot of people are willing to give up their privacy, give up their sense of shame, give up their embarrassment. >> the problem is there's not enough fame or fortune for everyone with a digital camera and a broadband connection. the capacity to screw up your life does seem lime mittless. >> dominos pizza employee fired and criminally charged after posting a video of themselves doing gross things to food they were repairing: >> a high school -- this taco bell employee was fired after posting this picture. >> today i am announcing my resignation from congress. >> who can forget married new york congressman anthony weiner forced to resign in disgrace

after a tweeted picture of his privates went viral. >> there was a point in the past if you were about to do something like that there woulden a voice in the back of your head saying, i don't think you should do this. >> how many of you have an iphone or an android or a galaxy or ipad? put up your hand. which brings us back to the massachusetts classroom. with all of the mixed messages out there, which choices will these kids make? first, insist your kids friend, follow or link you in. no exceptions. second, master and use the privacy settings of every site your kids are on. third, you must keep up with the newest social sites and apps. make sure you are not focusing on facebook when your kid has already moved on to another site. >> think of a year ago, i don't

think that i heard of instagram, the hardest part is keeping up with the changes. >> as a parent, what do you? you trust? you have blind faith? >> yes. i hate to admit it, but yes. and try to keep the conversation open. >> two generations ago gordon moore the founder of intel predicted computers would double their capacity about every two years. this proved so accurate it has become known as mooers law. modern data collected has expanded with breath taking velocity. the question is whether our social political legal solutions can keep up to ensure big data doesn't turn into big brother. ultimately it is only as aware informed citizens in other words by carefully watching for ourselves what's going on around us that we will get and keep the country we want, one that is efficient, one is that safe, but

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