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hello, everyone. rick: we have been following very compelling testimony in the courtroom of the george zimmerman court trial. there is the defendant understand right now, the medical examiner taking questions from prosecutors of the state of trayvon martin's body. testifying martin suffered and survived and actually lived between 1 to 10 minutes after he was shot. let's take you now live to the courtroom in florida. >> my question is, would he have been conscious at least for a few minutes based in your opinion? >> i need to tell the jury how i have an opinion. in opinion is based on the fact and my time learning. >> you talk about other autopsies you've done in your

life. >> yes. i believe trayvon martin was alive for 1 to 10 minutes after he was shot. i give a margin of error. the reason i give 10 minutes this because three weeks ago -- >> let me stop you. you have prior cases you have dealt with, we believe it at that. talking about your opinion is based on your experience. >> yes. >> let me ask another question about that. are you saying his brain is still technically a life come in other? >> yes. >> his brain is still alive. >> yes. >> he can still feel pain, in other words? >> yes. >> are you saying he could move or couldn't? >> from my experience with other

autopsies, i don't believe he could move. after being shot. >> all right. let me go to the bullet fragments he talked about already, i i approach the witness? >> do you need to change paper? [silence]

man approached the witness, your honor? >> yes, you may. >> i'm sure you state exhibit 155. what is state exhibit 155? >> the bullet fragments from his body. >> so that is all one exhibit. my approach the jury? >> yes, you may. [silence]

>> i'm going back to state exhibit 89, and you mentioned the hands, and abrasion, i want to ask you specifically about state exhibit 89.

when you do the autopsy and observed the hands other than the abrasion you talked about, did you observe any blood on his hands? >> no. >> did you observe any blood on his hands other than exhibited? if you had, would you have taken photographs of those injuries? >> yes, i would. >> state exhibit 91, i will ask you about what is depicted in that photograph. if you could tell us about this right here that i am circling right here, when you said abrasion, what did you mean by that? >> an and instant that could hae happened before trayvon martin met george zimmerman. could have happened during the physical -- >> this is again a narrative.

>> overruled but go ahead and ask your next question. >> tell us what you mean, when this injury could have occurred. >> could have occurred two hours before he died, could have happened right after the shooting on the way down to the ground. could have happened during the struggle. >> could've happened two hours before, during the shooting or even after he was shot and is on the ground? >> yes. rick: if you could tell us state exhibit 97, the size of this abrasion. >> one quarter to 1 inch. >> can you tell us in terms of contusions or lacerations, what

you mean by and abrasion? >> there are three

>> i have no opinion. >> would it cause bleeding from that abrasion? >> the blood in the capillary, we see this red stuff. >> would this be classified as a scratch to the skin? >> yes. >> as part of your autopsy, i apologize, man approached the witness again, your honor? part of the autopsy with the scrapings? >> yes i. >> state exhibit 191, do you recognize that, sir?

>> yes. >> i don't know what's referred to those, are those use each to the right hand and the left hand? >> yes. >> does it go underneath the fingernail? >> every finger. >> okay. >> also as part of the autopsy, dna or blood cart taken from trayvon martin's body? >> yes. >> okay.

>> and finally, sir, may i show you state exhibit number 98. is this what is called identification photograph? >> yes. >> i believe there's a stipulation. >> the state of florida to place the following. the body examined on february 27, 2012, case number 12 --dash 24 -- 043 is that of avon zimmerman martin. >> and then we talked about the gunshot wound and trans was from the front and straight to the heart, is that correct? >> yes.

>> keep your questions or comments to me, not each other. >> the state exhibit number 96, it should be 95, i guess your heart would be directly behind this or would it be if you are looking at this photograph right here? >> i cannot tell from this pho photo. we saw the pericardial sac, and then you see the heart. you cannot tell. >> in other words, the gunshot wound. >> you cannot tell from this photograph is the bullet went through the heart, he had to open the body to see that. >> thank you, your honor.

let me have a moment, your honor. rick: imagine being the father of trayvon martin looking at autopsy photos of your dead son. compelling testimony from the medical examiner, cross examination is about to begin with the defense getting their turn. streaming live without interruption on fox news.com. we will have more after a quick break. for a strong bag that grips the can... get glad forceflex. small change, big difference.

arthel: welcome back. it zimmerman trial is in a 10 minute break right now. when it resumes, we will cover it live, streaming on foxnews.com and analyze it on "happening now." two indiana girls injured in a parasailing crash are showing improvements. they slammed into a condominium and had power lines before striking a part car. the girls have been able to communicate through small movements despite their injuries. >> i can't even express on behalf of our family and fairchild's the outpour of prayers. >> that is what has brought us all, without the prayers, these kids not be doing any good. we need everybody to keep

praying for us. that is what keeps us together, our kids and the nation. arthel: the family says she is still in critical condition after suffering the head and neck injuries. the other teenager is now able to walk with assistance. rick: a battle brewing on capitol hill of immigration reform. the center o senator of arizona, john mccain, many say he is on a collision course. managing editor. an unlikely opponent, but really this is kind of par for the course when it comes to senator mccain, right? >> mccain has clashed with them over many debated issues. interrogation techniques for

detainees. this is nothing new and mccain has bitten his tongue so far, not criticized speaker john boehner for scheduling a vote on the senate bill but chuck schumer who has been closely working with is predicting the house eventually will schedule a vote on that measure. it could just be a matter of time before their publicly feuding with one another. rick: what is the main concern? is it border security, amnesty, the potential of adding perhaps millions of democrats, what is the real reason why republicans are against this idea, a lot of them? >> some of that is all of the above. house conservatives don't like the senate bill. the biggest issue is the pathway to citizenship and if this bill does not make it to president obama's desk this year, it will be because of that.

democrats will not vote for any bill that does not have a pathway and conversely house republicans say we are for a guest worker program but not a pathway to citizenship when it is amnesty. that is the main obstacle to having this become law. rick: what is the consensus concerning the biggest risk for republicans. is it going along with immigration reform or is the biggest risk being blamed for its untimely death? >> if you talk to some republicans privately, they don't think they need an immigration reform bill for the 2014 elections but they need one signed into law by 2016 elections. 2014 is about the base. liberals coming out, getting out to the base. the presidential election totally different environment. we saw that with mitt romney in 2012. is there a need to do this?

yes. right now? there is a divided opinion on that. rick: good to talk to you, as always. arthel: a suspected criminal hogtied on a lawn until police arrived and arrest him. we will tell you how he got there. and islamist pushback against the ouster of the country's first democratically elected president. love, warmth. here, try this. mm, ok! ching! i like the fact that there's lots of different tastes going on. mmmm! breakfast i'm very impressed. this is a great cereal! honey bunches of oats. i hear you crunching.

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rick: welcome back. information of crime stories we are following. a brutal attack on homeless that. police say he has been now celebrate his 21st birthday when he stabbed a veteran more than 70 times near a train station

outside of philly. he remains in critical condition. a would-be robber in oklahoma gets more than he bargained for when a homeowner ambushes him. the man hogtied the suspect and leaves him on the lawn for police while he went to work. and a new investigation into the disappearance of madeleine mccann. it is possible little girl who vanished during a portuguese vacation with the family six years ago is still alive. an update in a live report next hour. arthel: more turmoil in egypt. a live look at tahrir square in cairo where protests are underway. three people were killed elsewhere in clashes between egypt's troops and supporters of deposed president mohammed morsi. islamists staging a friday of rejection as he promises to move egypt toward a fair and inclusive democracy.

some say the crackdown on the muslim brotherhood is deepening dividing the country there. hey, jonathan. the research for defense of democracy. on the screen, jonathan, first thing i want to ask you, how tenuous is it? i would look in a few hotspots that might come up, or a keg of dynamite that might blow. >> there were clashes in the peninsula along the suez area, now cairo, pretty much anywhere the brotherhood has stron stron, all over the country you will see protests today and potential for violence. arthel: the muslim brotherhood are calling for protest today,

so what do you think is their motive? the muslim brotherhood is a force to be reckoned with and you are not to restructure a political foundation without including it or is it to create chaos? >> i'm not sure the strategy is to create chaos yet, but the muslim brotherhood has an waiting for this opportunity to come to power for something like 80 years. now it has been toppled and its supporters are very angry and they believe this is a military coup against the regime. on the other side opponents were saying this is a classic overreach and power by mohammed morsi, he tried to me plate the judiciary and others. what you have the standoff and conflicting narratives by the anti-islamists and muslim brotherhood in egypt right now. arthel: talk about the backlash in the region and with u.s.

supporters. >> you have a number of actors that have condemned this to even the african union kicking egypt out because of this military coup. and complexities here in the united states, it is illegal for the united states to provide aid to any democratic country toppled when militar military c. one of the reasons why the obama administration has been very careful not to call this a military coup. arthel: all eyes are not just on egypt, but around the world and how the obama administration moves forward. i want to ask you, do you think if things get out of hand, really out of hand, the military, is there any way the u.s. might get involved with force?

>> i highly doubt it. the obama administration has been standing on the sidelines for good reason. this is an egyptian matter. i think it is premature to talk about putting boots on the ground. arthel: just looking at these live shots, hopefully the picture we looking at remains that way. we have at least three people dead, don't want to see an anyme light sauce or bloodshed there. thank you. >> pleasure. rick: nicely done. the labor department just releasing the closely watched monthly jobs report. we will break down the numbers coming up, plus we will go back to the courtroom in a george zimmerman murder trial, one of the defense lawyers during a cross-examination of the medical examiner, the doctor who performed trayvon martin's autopsy after he was killed.

we will take you live to the courtroom after this.

rick: fox news alert. medical examiner o on the stand being cross-examined by defense attorneys, talking about the time trayvon martin's body was picked up by the medical examiner's office. trying to pinpoint how long the body remained at the scene of the shooting before the mds office picked up to dry the body back to the lab for the autopsy and examination. let's go back to the court. >> under oath i cannot give you wrong information. >> assume for your answer that

the event occurred about a quarter after 7:00. >> i don't know the information. the timeline at the scene. >> please assume the event occurred about a quarter after 7:00. if there is any dispute in that, the jury can resolve that at some point. just as a rough timeframe quarter after 7:00 is when the event occurred, correct, for our purposes? i am not asking to agree, i'm just as need to assume that is when the event occurred. >> okay, you can assume that. >> arrived at the scene about two and half hours later, correct? >> i don't know. i do not have that information, you cannot ask me yesterday no questions. >> based upon her notes that are

part of the records, she says she arrived at 21: 44. that is about a quarter of 10:00. two and half hours after the event, which we have assumed for our purposes occurred at 7:15. >> okay. not yes or no, just okay. >> in her notes she left 10 minutes after 10:00. witness: i do not see that on my notes. attorney: do you have the notes she made the connection to the case? if i could approach the witness, please. judge nelson: yes, you may. attorney: we may have different things. witness: no, that is the same.

attorney: cleared the scene at approximately 22:10. so, she left about 10 after 10:00. witness: yes. attorney: so we're assuming it occurred after 7:00, it was just about three hours that mr. martin's body was at the scene. witness: yes. at least to some degree unprotected from the elements. correct? >> objection. judge nelson: please rephrase your question. witness: i don't know. attorney: you know the hands. the body was at the scene for about three hours. witness: all i know is the body

was at the scene for some period of time, i don't have a timeline. attorney: would you have reviewed the notes of the investigator as your overall understanding of the event in anticipation and preparation for the autopsy? rick: a bit of an awkward exchange between the medical examiner and the defense attorney. defense is trying to show something for how long the body was at the scene and if there was a delay in getting it to the office of the medical examiner. we will continue to monitor this for you and we will bring you any highlights, developments as a testimony continues. we are expected in will rest their case today handing it over to the defense is a lot of developments analyzed. we don't have to miss a moment of this, streaming in its entirety on foxnews.com. more highlights from the zimmerman trial coming up.

arthel: this is a fox news fox s business alert, the labor department releasing better-than-expected jobs data. private employers adding 195,000 jobs in june, higher than analysts expected. the rate remains unchanged at 7.6%, one veteran who served two tours in combat says he is now facing another formidable opponent. the army major is trying to grow his own small business thanks to a grant backing veterans and entrepreneurs hiring some fellow veterans. joining me now, a major in the army reserve, also founder and president. good to see you. >> hello, thanks for having me. arthel: you just heard the jobs numbers. apparently more people are looking now, looking for work.

are you encouraged at all at what appears to be an uptick in the economy and do you think this is a direct route for you? >> it has been tough for me. i returned from afghanistan in 2011 and it has been an uphill battle. what if companies are less willing to take a risk working with small businesses. even though we can do it faster and cheaper in many cases. arthel: hoping things get better. another challenge that faces you as a small business is to get funding. how you have been able to go around that challenge. >> it is definitely very tough for small business to get real capital. received a grant out of florida, they did to amazing things for me, they gave me capital when i needed it the most and give me support network.

the ceo, we have all been great resources and you can do a whole show on the things they are doing for our returning vetera veterans. arthel: you would encourage others to contact them as well. >> absolutely. it is very tight, and would like to help each other. thinking of getting business into groups like veteran pathway, american legion's and so on. arthel: helping fellow veterans is exactly what to do. tell me about how you attract getting other veterans to become entrepreneurs. >> at&t is leading the way developing disabled veteran

services swear hoping the next six months would become part of the supply chain and hire several veterans and we will focus on the national soldiers struggling to find work. they make up a large part of the unemployment numbers. arthel: how many do you employ right now? >> with the leadership team of three. we hope to grow over the next several months. arthel: we support what you are doing and hope you can get as many veterans employed as possible because what a sacrifice i have paid. rick: when we come back, day nine of the george zimmerman trial. testimony from trayvon martin's mother and brother. the medical examiner is still on the stand right now. our legal panel weighs in on what the relatives of trayvon martin had to say when we come back.

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swiffer gives cleaning a whole new meaning. ♪ lovely lady rick: a fox news alert as we continue to watch the developments in the courtroom of the george zimmerman murder trial in sanford florida. that is one of the defense attorneys doing a cross examination of the medical examiner of the doctor who performed the autopsy on the body of trayvon martin. he testified in the last hour or so that trayvon martin suffered in his opinion, he was in pain and that he lived between 1 to 10 minutes after the time he was shot. there's some discrepancy right now for how long the body remained at the crime scene before it was brought into the office of the medical examiner. we will keep our eye and ears on the testimony but we also want to analyze a testimony taking place today. what is expected to be the last

day for the prosecution. we have been led to believe the prosecution will best its case before the end of the day today and the defense will take over as the defendant sitting in the courtroom. thank you both for joining us. >> thank you for having us. rick: we will continue to keep an eye on the testimony. give me a take on the medical examiner, sort of the prosecution. >> you go clinically through what injuries there were, the cause of death and that is not only legally important but emotionally important because it makes the victim, the deceased person a real person. you hear about how they suffered and that brings home the emotional component the jury want to hear about as well as the details. rick: this is not a witness that can testify at all to

information about the confrontation that led up to the shooting. not able to help the prosecution make the case that george zimmerman shot without provocation. >> yes, absolutely 100% right about that. george nelson allowed the testimony to go in about trayvon martin suffering from one minute to 10 minutes. it is not relevant if it proves or disproves who the aggressor was. the fact trayvon martin was suffering is only prejudicial and appeals to the sympathetic needs of the jurors in this case i find it troubling that the medical examiner got to testify about that in this case. rick: the most emotional test for yet --dash testimony it, trayvon martin's mother as they try to make a case it was in fact trayvon martin's voice crying for help that is heard on some of the 911

calls made. they played the tape for her and asked whose voice she heard, let's take a look from earlier today. >> if it was your son in fact screaming as he testified, that would suggest that it was mr. zimmerman's fault that led to his death, correct? >> correct. >> if it was not your son screaming come if it was in fact george zimmerman, you would have to accept the probability that was trayvon martin that caused his own death, right? >> i don't understand your question. >> if you were to listen to that tape and not hear your son's voice, that would mean it would have been george zimmerman's voice, correct? >> not hearing my son screaming? i heard my son screaming. rick: trayvon martin's mother

being cross-examined by one of the defense attorneys. as you listen to that exchange, she had already said it was her son's voice she heard on the 911 tape when she was asked the question by the prosecutors and the defense took their turn, talking earlier sometimes less is more. did he overstep some boundaries in his line of questioning? >> no matter what your view is, it is mostly powerful to hear the mother testifying about hearing her mother' son's voice screaming for help. it was george zimmerman, does that mean it was her son at fault? sometimes as a cross examination lawyer you need to first know what to ask and went to sit down and not ask questions and say no thank you, don't have any further questions or questions at all. rick: your take on that

exchange? >> i agree, you have a victim or somebody related to the victim, you don't want them to be on the stand for a very long time because it leaves room for things like emotion and the exchange between the two to happen. it can weaken the defense position when you leave somebody on and you ask questions you don't know the answer to. in this case less would have been more. you don't want to inflame the jurors passion. to ask openhanded questions was not necessarily the best idea. rick: with every reason to believe this could be the last witness the prosecution will call. if they end with the medical examiner, how do you think they have done? >> today they have had a very emotional day. the mother was powerful, the medical examiner testifying of how trayvon martin died, but

none of this really went to the confrontation that you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt charge zimmerman didn't act in self-defense. rick: the last word as we get ready to hear from the defense, was appointed the prosecution has made the most how to disprove or create out to the jury. >> the state has the burden of proof, prove beyond a reasonable doubt, don't think they have met that. there is a legal burden, george zimmerman has an affirmative defense which is use of deadly force and the state failed to tie up loose ends to make it where there was no reasonable doubt in this case. rick: thank you so much. more from the zimmerman trial when we come right back.

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arthel: welcome back. right now new info and entertainment stories we have for you. more fallout from paula deen's admitted use of racial slurs. the breakup comes after a turbulent two weeks which saw deen lose her show as well as many publishing and sponsorship deals. alec baldwin reportedly wants to fly to russia to interview edward snowden. the actor says he sees snowden through, quote, neutral eyes and wants to see how this story plays out. and royal baby fever in great britain as the nation prepares to celebrate prince william and kate middleton's new son or daughter. the duchess is expected to give birth in mid july.

britain's mint will give a commemorative coin to other babies born on the same day. rick: i'm feeling girl. home prices on the rise, jumping more than 123% in -- 12% in may, so what's behind the spike? experts say greater demand is helping to push higher prices and tighter inventory is leading to fierce competition, even some bidding wars. garrett is live in chicago with more on this. of. >> reporter: hi, rick. we've heard of homes selling in 24 hours with more than three offers on them, so there's certainly a surge of buyers, but many homeowners are still underwater, and they say they are waiting for more of a recovery before they put their homes up for sale, and that's leaving prospective buyer withs with very few options to choose from. >> we're at 675, and it's a four-bedroom, three-bath. >> reporter: the fields family has spent the last six months house hunting in the suburbs, and frustration is setting in.

>> when new homes do pop up on the market that are priced correctly and are nice homes that they are just flying off the market, we're talking days, not weeks. >> reporter: in the chicago area, there are 40% fewer homes for sale than a year ago, driving up competition between prospective buyers. at the same time, the number of chicago homeowners who are still underwater, owing more than their current home is worth, is up 7% from last year. >> we've had two foreclosures that are building, so it's really hurt our prices. >> reporter: real estate analysts say while chicago is experiencing the strongest seller's market in eight years, homeowners are still better off waiting to sell until housing prices improve. >> if you're right at the break even point, you don't want to sell was on top of that, you're going to have to pay maybe 8-11% in closing costs, broker's commissions, transfer taxes, fees. then you're functionally underwater again. >> reporter: so while the housing market certainly is

improving, we should note that the average house price today is still 26% lower than its peak in 2006. rick? rick: garrett tenny in chicago, thanks so much. arthel: day nine of testimony in the george zimmerman murder trial. they are now breaking for a one-hour lunch to resume at 1:00 eastern. the medical examiner on the stand after dramatic testimony from trayvon martin's mother and his brother. that was this morning. again, the trial is breaking for lunch. we will bring it back to you on foxnews.com live when it resumes, and we will have all the news coming out of that courtroom in seminole county, florida, as it comes out. back in a moment.

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to get your free shredder and get 60 days of lifelock protection risk free. arthel: right now brand new stories and breaking news. rick: and new details from seattle on the arrest of a young man with an arsenal of weapons packed in a stolen truck near a major university. and new hope that this little girl whose disappearance shocked the world back in 2007 might still be alive. a live report from london straight ahead. plus, new fears this deadly virus may be mutating into a killer that could spread much more easily all around the world. we'll tell you what's being done to try to contain it. ♪ ♪ arthel: and we start with a fox news alert on protests turning deadly? deadly in egypt. rick: i'm rick folbaum. arthel: and i'm arthel neville, welcome to second hour of

"happening now." egyptian troops opening fire on supporters of the deposed president killing three people. in cairo islamist protesters taking part in what was called a day of rejection. the muslim brotherhood's response to the ouster of president mohamed morsi. it was supposed to be peaceful, but we're told shots were fired as the group marched towards a building where they believed morsi was being held. the military forced morsi out this week, and elected leaders of his party after millions protested for days, and now this latest violence fueling concerns the unrest is only going to escalate. greg talcott's streaming live now from cairo. greg, what's the latest there? >> reporter: hey, arthel, yeah, once again deadly violence in the heart of cairo. from our own position where we are right now in the past couple hours, we have heard gunshots, we have seen combat apache helicopters buzzing low over the city, and we have heard the wail of sirens. the main violence has been

happening just a couple miles from where we are in this day of rejection friday, of age, whatever you want -- rage, whatever you want to call it. supporters of the ousted president, mohamed morsi, expressing their anger. that flash point happened at the republican guard headquarters where it is thought morsi being detained by officials. when some protesters made a move on that building, it is reported -- though authorities are denying it -- soldiers, others fired back against them, and the latest reports that we're getting are three dead and ten people injured. you can hear the helicopters buzzing once again over our heads. that's not all, we've seen rallies and protests across the city and outside of cairo as well. one soldier was killed at a checkpoint in sinai, bound to get more people angry. more changes being made by the interim technocratic government that has been put in praise by the military -- place by the military. when folks here on the street hear about this, they will get angry. remember what has happened this

past week following massive protests and massive displeasure against mohamed morsi, the muslim brotherhood islamic leader who had been in there for about a year, the military moved to get rid of him. they detained dozens and dozens of his fellow party members, they shut down tv stations, put troops on the street and we today, arthel, have seen those troops on the street. we've seen multiple, multiple armored personnel cars roving. they're trying to keep this thing peaceful, they're trying to separate the pro and the anti-morsi crowds. we're looking at tahrir square, there are smaller crowds right here now, but we've seen them building in the last couple of hours, and again, we're hearing those -- now we're seeing jets. we're seeing one, two, three, four, five, six, seven fighter jets roar over tahrir square. once again, it's a show of force by the military who really are the people who are in charge. one final, quick note. we've watched a lot in egypt in

the past couple of years. we've got a firsthand taste of the violence in tahrir square in 2011 which saw the ouster of mubarak, then-president of egypt, and then we've been back here twice, and we've seen elections for parliament and referendums just in the past couple of days. all of it has been wiped away. some people are happy, some people, as you can hear, very angry. back to you. arthel: we can hear, and the clash continues. hopefully, not too much more violence. greg talcott, thank you very much, live in cairo. and coming up, we're going to have our mideast journalist and fox news contributor join us to weigh in on the up rest there in egypt. unrest there in egypt. rick: we're following a breaking story out of seattle, washington, where police may have thwarted an attack. the fbi is investigating a man arrested near the campus of the university of washington. his pickup truck filled with weapons and suspected explosives. laura ingle with more from our new york city newsroom.

>> reporter: university of washington police say the 21-year-old man was picked up with a supply of menacing weapons, a scoped rifle, a shotgun, body armor and multiple what's been called well-made molotov cocktails. what he planned to do with it all, still a mystery today. the man was first spotted sleeping in a truck on university campus grounds tuesday. no red flags popped up after police ran a records check, so he was sent on his way. but then the next day campus police received a stolen vehicle report out of montana and were on the lookout for that same truck. a pursuit began after they spotted it, and the suspect was taken into custody without incident just blocks from seattle's children's hospital. >> we don't have any information that would suggest any type of attack. we have no idea what his intentions are. again, this is a very active investigation, and we're trying to rule out all, everything at this point. >> reporter: i spoke with university police chief john vinson this morning who told me

they are working with the seattle police department and the fbi on this case and that the suspect is not cooperating with investigators and that he could be charged later today. students say they are in shock, all of this unfolded so close to campus. >> kind of blows my mind, to be honest. i mean, i've been here for two and a half years now, and i haven't heard anything -- you know, we get e-mails from the police department saying we had an armed robbery or, you know, a mugging, that kind of deal, but nothing including a shotgun, body with armor and a molotov cocktail like that? bombs? that kind of scares me a little bit. >> reporter: and police don't believe the man has any ties to the area, and there does not appear to be any threat to the university community at this point. rick: laura, thank you. >> reporter: thanks. arthel: a fox extreme weather, serious flash flooding threat for the fourth of july weekend from florida up to the appalachians. to take a look at northern vermont there, after days of heavy rains, flooding damaging a

number of homes forcing many to close, we're talking about the governor canceling independence day appearances, instead touring the destruction. here is the description of that situation there. >> every time we make progress, there's another afternoon storm. there's one predicted for this often, so it's really tough to stay ahead of it. we're trying to get these reopened within a day. it is a holiday weekend. people are here, people are traveling, and it's important to keep these roads open. we're trying really hard to do that. arthel: and officials are warning people not to swim in any of the high water. rick: well, in the wake of the deadly arizona fire, congress will talk about ways to reduce wildfires. arizona's yarnell fire now 80% contained thank toss a break in the heat -- thanks to a break in heat. on thursday, two days after the planned memorial service for the 19 firefighters killed battling

those flames, lawmakers have scheduled a hearing on how to reduce forest fires. arthel: and, rick, dangerous floodings and a major, major concern for millions this weekend out west. low humidity is increasing the risk for more wild fires while part parts of the northeast will sizzle over the next few days, so what's going on with this wild weather? here to answer, chief meteorologist rick like newt is in our -- reichmuth is in our extreme weather center. >> reporter: we're stuck in a pattern, and there's no signs of it changing at least in the next four or five days. very heavy rain across areas of the south, panama city over towards pensacola, some spots have seen up to 17 inches of rain. in florida you can see exactly how bad some of the damage is and the flooding here. you think florida gets a lot of rain, and they do, but getting this much rain in a short time has caused all kinds of flooding and some problems there, and there's more rain on the way. some of these areas are going to see some significant rainfall totals adding up.

this is the last 48 hours in some spots here around that 12 inches plus mark. in fact, kind of a broad area all the way towards dothan, alabama. more rain over the next couple of days, it's going to move slightly towards the west, so, panama city, you're a little better, but pensacola and mobile getting very heavy rain in towards parts of tennessee. we have all kinds of flood watches and warnings from around parts of ohio all the way down towards that central gulf coast. so be very careful across this area with that rain still headed in there. temperatures, as you said, out anywhere to the east of where all that rain is, it's just hot, and it's humid. temperatures into the 90s for everybody. kind of a great beach weekend, a lot of people do that this time of year, and it's a good time for it. we still out across the west have a lot of fires that are burning. rain over the last couple of days across parts of arizona finally coming in, the monsoon moisture get anything there, and you sew that rain, those -- see this rain, and can that has really significantly helped the fire there. up to 80% containment there.

we will see more rain over the next couple days, it looks like a dryout a little bit by sunday. arthel? arthel: rick, thank you very much. >> reporter: you bet. rick: coming up, new fallout over the health care law following the sudden delay of a key employer mandate put off for a year. a lot of changes, actually, since it was first laid out and passed back in 2010. our news watch panel weighs in on the coverage. and the vatican approving saint hood for pope john paul ii. we've got details on that. and the new focus on hillary clinton in the year 2016. what we're now learning about her and what it could mean if she decides to run for the white house. ♪ ♪

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and whether she's running for president in 2016. this comes as we're learning more about how she worked with the administration and those in her inner circle. daniel henninger, deputy editorial page editor of the "wall street journal," nice to see you, dan, how. are you? i ask you, first off, how important if hillary are to run for president, how important is it for her to have obama's support and those of his camp, if you will? >> well, i think it's very important. barack obama has, will have been president by then for, let's say, eight years, seven years when she starts running. and a lot of the clinton people that have been running, working with her for a long time have said they probably aren't going to get involved in another presidential campaign. so a lot of the skill sets that have been developed in many politics and the change with every electoral cycle now, especially with social media, those have been developed by the

people working for barack obama. so i think she's probably going to have to dip into the obama bench for people to help her if she's going to run the next time out. arthel: so it's really not necessarily for a political stamp, it's more for, as you said, those who have the skill set to do it. and you mentioned social media because social media is the sort of the grassroots of the day. >> yeah. well, social media was what -- barack obama perfected it, and he used it to defeat her, then he defeated john mccain and mitt romney. so she has got to find people who are adept at using those kinds of social media instruments to run. but i should say that barack obama, who was supported by the progressives on the left, have always distrusted the clintons. there's a bit of a tension there between them. hillary clinton has, i don't think this candidacy is quite the slam dunk people think it is. she has some fence mending to do on the democratic left among people who have never believed the clintons are quite in their

camp. so to both get obama's support and the support of these people is still kind of something that hillary has to negotiate here. arthel: and how willing is, do you think the president is willing to negotiate, if you will? >> well, i think he probably is going to play a little bit of hard to get. i mean, bill clinton was heard just a couple of weeks ago privately, so to speak, criticizing his syria policy, calling it lame and said he ran the risk of looking like a fool. barack obama is a very self-confident president, probably didn't take very well with that. so there is going to be some work here, i think, to do. but it can't, they can't take that long. these campaigns start much sooner. i mean, barack and hillary ran in january 23 months before the election. i think if she's going to commit, it has to come even earlier than that. arthel: and you're saying if she's going p to commit, you've got to put the full court press out there, and mrs. clinton can't be coy about it. well, i'm not sure if i'm going to run, we'll see.

she has to say i'm running and i need your support. >> you have to raise upwards of $1 billion now to run for the presidency, and that takes time. and though the clintons themselves have a lot of money, they cannot self-finance this election. she's going to have to start putting a campaign in motion pretty darn quick. arthel: arkansas dan, let's take a look atx news opinion poll of hillary clinton and look at the numbers and see where she stands now in terms of how much people, her favorability. there it is, pardon me. now her favorable rating is 56%, in august of 2012 it was 63%. so it waned a little bit there. so what does former secretary clinton need to do to gain not only the support of the president who, you know, we know that there's a little bit of tension in that relationship, the clinton camp and the obama camp, but what does hillary clinton need to do to get more people onboard in terms of liking her? >> well, i think she's done pretty well in that.

but this is a very interesting question. as you said, former secretary. she was the secretary of state, gained a lot of stature holding that office. but this is really a double-edged sword, and it relates to what we are looking at right now in egypt. screens are filled with all of these protests over there. egypt is, obviously, in some sense falling apart. now, the arab spring occurred on her watch, and i think legitimately questions will be asked what she did to insure that something like this didn't happen. of plus you have the problems in syria right now. so the world is looking quite unsettled, and she was secretary of state through that period. so while it gained, you know, earned her a lot of stature, the question is, will be asked what did she accomplish as secretary of state if the world is in the kind of turmoil that we're seeing right now. it'll be a tricky thing for her to negotiate. arthel: it's a good question, it's a cliffhanger. we're out of time, so we leave it there and, dan, will you come back, and we can talk about that

specific notion? >> gad -- glad to. arthel: daniel henninger, thank you very much. rick: who doesn't love a good cliffhanger? some brand new leads in the 2007 disappearance of madeleine mccann. why this missing young girl may still be alive. plus, deadly violence today in egypt as we learn of shots fired on a group of protesters. what the unrest means for the region and the concerns that it could escalate. stick around. >> the u.s. has huge interests here, preserving the camp david peace accord with israel, keeping the suez canal open, and yet we've played a weak and indecisive hand here during the entire period of the arab spring. let's play: [ all ] who's new in the fridge! i help support bones... [ ding! ] ...the immune system... [ ding! ] ...heart health... [ ding! ] ...and muscles. [ ding! ] that can only be ensure complete! [ female announcer ] the four-in-one nutrition of ensure complete. a simple choice to help u eat right. [ major nutrition ] nutrition in charge.

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rick: right now new violence turning deadly in e script. troops opening fire on supporters of the ousted president, mohamed morsi. we're told it happened as they were marching towards a building where they believed morsi was being held. the shootings coming after the muslim brotherhood called for a, quote, day of rejection to protest the military takeover this week. all of this raising concerns that the unrest could escalate. lisa is a mideast journalist is a fox news contributor, and this is what we were afraid of. >> this is absolutely what we were afraid of. we expected they weren't going to go down that easily, and you have to realize that they do have a large constituency, that's how they came to power to begin with. rick: the muslim brotherhood. >> and that's exactly why that was predicted as to the arab spring we had -- we already had this. it's déjà vu in so many ways where you had a revolution in egypt, a political vacuum, and the muslim brotherhood, well funded, well organized, the only opposition at that time that had the ability and the following to

take over. rick: i thought this was interesting, yesterday there were reports circulating that arrest warrants had been issued for some of the top leaders within the muslim brotherhood. and then last night, late last night an army or military spokesperson went on to facebook and said, no, we're not doing that. we are not planning to arrest anybody without cause. >> right. and you have to understand the military's job here is just so sensitive, and the way that they approach the crackdown against the muslim brotherhood is going to be entirely sensitive. it's going to really pave the path for years to come because on the one hand, if they go too soft, egypt will be in perpetual revolutionary mode. they'll come out onto the streets, they'll continue doing what they're doing because they'll get away with it. and if they go too hard on them, it's going to be, you know, a greater vengeance, and they're going to come out with greater violence. rick: but we've talked to analysts who have said you've got to bring the muslim brotherhood into the fold

somehow, you know, give them some sort of sense that they're going to be a part of the process going forward. >> are right. rick: how do you do that when you've ousted one of their own? >> right. there's too many of them not to include them. what we're watching to, again, they're going to come out, they're going to use violence as they have in the past. the muslim brotherhood did not sprout up two years ago, and they know exactly how to get into power, and they have the tools to do so. so we have to, you know, the interim president made a statement that he wants to have something entirely inclusive, and you know what? the people coming out onto the streets demonstrated something very, very important going forward, that this is a diverse patchwork of egyptian people. young, old, women, men. they're coming out into the streets, and that entire demographic has to be, um, represented not just one small constituency. rick: and the u.s., a tricky situation because, obviously, we want to support those leaders that are democratically-elected, but there are probably a lot of people within the obama administration, at the state

department who are pretty psyched that morsi's gone. >> right. look, he was democratically-elected, but he doesn't democratically behaving. we have to make that distinction here. and really the most important thing going forward is for egypt to find a support system whether it comes from the u.s. and its allies, but mostly from within to resurrect its economy. revolutions don't have because they have lofty visions, they happen because they need jobs. the economy in egypt, the muslim brotherhood if morsi had been a able to fix the economy to a certain degree, i think we would have been seen less of this movement to come out onto the streets. so it's about the economy, it's about hinger, and that's really what -- hunger, and that's really what's most important. rick: so moving forward, looking for a leader. they've got an interim president who's in place until they're able to call elections. you know the leaders there, you know the players in egypt. is there something that might be acceptable to everybody, that could come in and especially be

acceptable to the u.s.? >> right. and that's the challenge going forward. one of the things i've always suggested going forward instead of just writing the checks to a spoiled child and giving them their allowance, maybe that's what we should be putting our money towards: finding a government that's going to be answering the calls of the egyptian people, but also being a transparent government that the u.s. and allies could work with, because that's why the aid was established to begin with. rick: great analysis, as always, a mideast journalist and a fox news contributor. lisa, good to see you. arthel? arthel: want to let everybody to be sure to watch fox news sunday this weekend. senators bob corker of tennessee and jack reed of rhode island will be talking about the unrest in egypt. that's going to be sunday. check your local listings for that. and meanwhile, new troubles right now for one of president obama's big bets on green energy. the colorado department of public health ordering one bankrupt solar panel maker to spend millions for a clean-up

operation after inspectors found discarded equipment and hazardous waste at four facilities across the state. alicia acuna live in denver with more. hi, alicia. >> reporter: hi, arthel. what makes these solar possibles so hazardous -- panels so hazardous is a thin film of what's called cadmium teleyou ride, and it's applied to large sheets of glass. it's a carcinogen, and it is classified as a toxic substance by the department of health. health inspectors in colorado discovered nearly 2,000 pallets of abandoned cadmium-coated panels left behind by now-bankrupt abound solar. the failed solar power manufacturer spent $70 million of a $400 million federal loan garon teen when it was up and running -- garon teen when it was up and running. abound solar is responsible for the toxic substances inspectors

discovered at four facilities. >> so those facilities are big, there's a lot of machinery left behind. that machinery needs to be decontaminated so that there is no cadmium left on that material. and that will be expensive. >> reporter: a reported $2.2 million job. the state health d. says no state or federal dollars will be used to take care of this, but in addition to those panels, state workers also found 55 gallon drums of cadmium-contaminated fluids in tanks filled with 2500 gallons of contaminated water. those in support of gathering energy from the sun say solar is still safe. >> solar is the cleanest and most abundant form of energy available today. and i think what you'll see is many of the materials that were left behind will end up in a recycling stream. >> reporter: a recycling stream is new solar materials that will go on to other

companies. now, arthel, we reached out to abound solar's bankruptcy team for comment on this repeatedly, and those calls went unanswered. arthel? arthel: okay, alicia, thank you very much. >> reporter: sure. rick: obamacare, new concerns about the health care law and the changes since it was first signed into law by the president. we'll have a live report, and then our news watch panel weighs in on the coverage of obamacare. and six years after she disappeared on vacation with her family in portugal, police now reopening the case of madeleine mccann. why they think she may still be alive, coming up. >> because there was so much information, i get the feeling that they may now feel they're really just getting their teeth into it, and they can see all these lines of inquiry that need followed up.

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after madeleine mccann vanished from a resort where her family was vacationing back in 2007, british police say madeleine may sill be alive. still be alive. kitty logan is live in london and, kitty, why did the british police launch this new investigation? >> reporter: well, here in the u.k. the police believe there is new evidence in this case, and they are following fresh lines of inquiry. as you say, they want to speak to a number of people about madeleine's disappearance. also they believe she may still be alive simply for the reason there is no conclusive evidence that she died. and, of course, kate and gerry mccann, the parents, have been clinging to this hope for many years, ever since she disappeared, and they welcome this investigation. they say that they hope the investigation will lead to the person who was responsible for taking their daughter away from them to be brought to justice, arthel. arthel: what are the chances of them actually solving this case? >> reporter: it's a tough one. as you know, madeleine

disappeared in 2007, and the portuguese police closed the case in 2008, a year later. so, obviously, there isn't going to be much hard evidence left. but british police have managed to take over the case from the portuguese, and they've received tens of thousands of files which they've been looking through. also they have evidence which was gathered by private investors hired by the mccann family, and all that has led to 38 persons of interest which the british police are now investigating more closely. there is no breakthrough yet, but, of course, this new investigation does give hope to the mccann family who absolutely desperate for answers about their daughter, arthel. arthel: i'll bet they are. kitty logan, thank you very much. and now a little background on madeleine mccann and her disappearance, as kitty just said, she went missing may 3, 2007, from the resort where her family was spending their vacation. four months later, both parents were declared official suspects. but in july of 2008, portugal's attorney general said the

mccanns were no longer considered suspects and shelfed the investigation into the girl's disappearance. in just the past 24 hours, detectives said there is every chance madeleine is still alive. ♪ ♪ rick: "happening now," the sudden postponement of new hushes requirements -- health insurance requirements for employers is just the latest change to obamacare. president obama making some simple promises about the health law back in 2010, but since then the law has changed in more ways than one. chief washington correspondent be jim angle live from washington. hi, jim. >> reporter: hello, rick. well, that's right. the delay in the employer mandate's one of many changes so far. in fact, parts of the law have even been repealed with president obama's acquiescence. the exchanges were supposed to offer several choices of plans. that, too, was delayed until 2015, so workers will only have one plan available even though the president often talks about choice. >> i think there have been some

frustrations, and once you begin to get a few miles on the law, it starts to pick up some nicks and scrapes. >> nicks and scrapes indeed. then the legislation said the premiums had to cover the cost, and the administration realized early on there was no way that would ever happen. so they gave up, and that too was repealed. then there was a requirement that businesses fill out an irs form for any purchases from the single entity exceeding $600 over the course of a year which businesses complained was a paperwork nightmare. listen. >> extremely complicated, tons of paperwork, no understanding as to why and how they're going to, you know, provide all of these new forms. and i think you heard a lot from businesses, really an outcry of why are we doing this. >> reporter: and the administration didn't have a

good answer for that so it, too, was repealed, and that was signed into law by president obama. the administration also delayed until 2015 a managed care option inserted into the law by democratic senator maria cantwell of washington who said it was far less expensive than the obama plan. she was not happy when it was pushed back and pointedly accused officials of delaying it in order to avoid lower cost competition. listen. >> is there a bias somewhere in the administration against lower cost managed care delivery systems that the act calls for in exchange for the exchange. >> reporter: so well before the law takes full effect, many parts have been discarded and, rick, i can tell you, business leaders have several more changes in mind. rick: jim angle in washington, thanks very much. taking a look now at how those changes to president obama's signature health care law have been covered. all three major networks this week highlighting the delay in the employer mandate, calling it

surprising, significant, a setback for the president. but is it really a shock, or did the mainstream media ignore signs that perhaps this was coming? fred barnes is executive editor of the weekly standard, a fox news contributor, juan williams is a fox news political analyst. gentlemen, good to talk to both of you. fred, should reporters have been so surprised there's so many hurdles for obamacare? >> well, they should have been surprised that the obama administration would finally admit that they had to delay something here as important as the employer mandate, but they still shouldn't have been surprised with all the problems out there. the landscape, rick, is strewn with signs that obamacare was in trouble, you know, going back to the train wreck that senator baucus said it was going to be. and then you had sebelius, the health and human services secretary, out trolling for private funds to help with obamacare. if you talk to doctors, they would tell you about how they were going to retire, and they're already retiring.

and more companies putting people on part-time jobs and indication after indication was that obamacare being implemented is in deep trouble. another one, of course, is we hear about the exchanges. there has to be one in every state. those are behind. they're supposed to be in place by october 1st. it doesn't look like they're going to be. rick: and, juan, yet a lot of the national media seeming to be taken off guard by the fact there are so many problems when it comes to implementing obamacare. >> no, i don't think they're caught off guard by that, rick, i think they were caught off guard by the admission from the administration that the problems had reached a point, you know, from the administration's point of view they hurt business, but the problems had reached the point where they felt it was necessary to delay it and take the political beating that's come from their points saying this is -- opponents saying this is evidence that obamacare doesn't work. but i think if you're looking at the media coverage, you know, every major government program is going to have its issues in

the rollout. medicare, social security and health care for every american, including an individual mandate and the creation of these exchanges that fred was talking about, these are major undertakings, and i think that's why, you know, so many people see that as the core of obamacare as opposed to, you know, the employer mandate. you know, i think it's 94, 95% of american employs offer health insurance. rick: you know, fred, juan just mentioned the administration's line on this employer mandate delay which is that they're listening to business leaders who have weighed in and said they need a little bit more time to figure in this out and figure out how they want to proceed with this, and that's the reason behind it. you know, one way to find bias in the media is to listen to whether reporters are taking the line that the official press releases and just sort of repeating them over in their newscasts. do you think can, fred, that reporters were too quick to use the white house's explanation for the delay and to go with

that rather than challenging it? >> of course they were, rick. they've been adopting the obama administration excuses and explanations going back to when obamacare was first passed in 2010. so this isn't something new. and all the things i mentioned earlier, all the signs that were out there that obamacare's implementation is in trouble were ones that almost all of them were not covered at all. look, all you have to do, and juan may have done this, i have done this, is to go out and to talk to leaders of fortune 500 companies or small firms with under 50 employees, and they both tell you the same thing. where i -- even the big companies say, you know, we may dump all our employees onto these exchanges and pay the fine. that makes more sense to us. how many employers out there, thousands and thousands of them are keeping, are going to keep their level of employment below 50 workers so they aren't subject to it. subject to obamacare. i mean, there are just so many trouble signs out there that

the, that the -- at least the obama administration -- rick: juan, real quickly, just a couple quick seconds here, do you think this will ever cease to be such a hot button issue, politically speaking, obamacare? >> no, rick. i mean, you know, there have been, i think, 37 awe tempts to repeal it by republicans now in the house, all in vain, but it remains a politically-strong tool for republicans against this president and against democrats in general. we're going to see more of it in the 2014 midterms, i think. rick: juan, fred, gentlemen, thank you both. great to talk to you. catch news watch tomorrow, 2:30 eastern time. eric shawn filling in for jon scott tomorrow, 2:30 p.m. eastern time right here on fox news channel. arkansas a well, the nsa leak scandal causing big changes in the way folks are using the internet, giving search engines and privacy software a big boost. the latest details in a live report coming up next. ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ arthel: "happening now," more internet users are turning away from the big search engines like google, yahoo! and others since the nsa leak scandal, turning to alternative sites instead offering more privacy. usually at a cost, but cyber experts warn your safety is never 100% guaranteed. rick leventhal live in our new york city newsroom with more. >> reporter: arthel, anyone with a computer most likely is searching the web at some point, and maybe once in a while you click on that history button and clear it. but as we now know, that doesn't really wipe your slate clean. in fact, many search engines and web sites carefully and methodically track your usage, share information with

advertisers, and sometimes the government peeks in, too, as we've learned from the scandal involving the national security agency. well, some search engines offer privacy, and they're now seeing a spike in business with, they say, like duck, duck go which saw its use nearly double in recent weeks, it handles queries but doesn't store the information. it has nothing to give the government on you or your web habits. >> we always knew that people didn't want to be tracked, but the problem is they don't really know what to do about it. people want private alternatives, but they don't want a lot of sacrifice, so now people are hearing they can switch and get great results and great privacy. >> well, some critics will tell you this spike in use is temporary and minuscule compared to the big search engines. duck duck go might handle three million a day now, but google handles more than a billion questions from around the globe every single day. and cyber experts on security say there will always be traces that can be found and exploited. >> five or ten years ago i

probably threw my bank statements in the trash and expected them to be burned. well, now i shred them before with i throw them into the trash. the same kind of thought process needs to go be into cyberspace. >> reporter: it's like when you use your cell phone, and you're told to consider every call is on a crowded elevator, there should be limited expectations of privacy on the web as well, arthel. arthel: i just looked you up on duck duck go, rick leventhal. >> reporter: oh, did you? i'm very curious. [laughter] arthel: thanks, rick. rick: i'm looking over your shoulder. [laughter] new concerns about the deadly sars-like virus, why the world health organization is convening an emergency committee to tackle the outbreak. important answers from our medical a-team, coming up next. [ male announcer ] this is kevin.

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rick: russia and china launching their largest-ever joint war games. the navy fleets practicing together in the sea of japan, this another sign of increasing ties between the two former cold war rivals. the drills covering a mock anti-sub warfare simulating the takeover of an enemy ship, and it comes on the heels of the u.s., japan and south korea's joint drills last month. those naval exercises took place in the waters near china and the korean peninsula underscoring the tight military cooperation between the three nations. arthel: right now the world health organization convening an emergency committee of experts next week on the deadly sars-like coro virus after 77 confirmed cases and 41 deaths so far worldwide and new fears the decide may be mutating. dr. david samadi is chair of urology, professor of urology at

the hofstra north share lij school of medicine and a member of our fox medical a-team. good to see you, doc. >> >> nice to see you. arthel: briefly, tell me what the virus is, mainly, why is the world health organization concerned and how contagious is it? >> well, i think it's a good move, and the fact that they're looking into it, i think it's absolutely the right choice. but i want people to know that this is right now, it's not epidemic. and also who knows this. they're meeting on an emergency basis because sometimes this virus, just like sars in 2002, they can change their face. they can mutate. and all of a sudden we're going to have an epidemic. what really came up recently in the journal of -- [inaudible] in 55 of these patients, they're understanding more about this disease and the virus. and what they have something called a speedometer, it's a measure of finding out whether a virus is becoming epidemic or not. if the number is less than one,

we are safe. if it's over one, then we have, we're getting close to epidemic. with sars that number was 2.2-3.7. with this virus, which is middle eastern respiratory sin dome, is .69. so we are still very safe. but i like the fact they're looking into it, making sure we know what the source is. we don't have that answer. they're looking to see how through travel this virus can become global, so investigating this is absolutely the right thing to do, but i don't think right now as we speak there's any danger to people. we just need to be aware of it. arthel: okay. you mentioned the middle east, doctor, so let's pull up a map of some of the countries where we've seen cases of the corona virus, u.k., france, italy, jordan, saudi arabia, tunisia, qatar, the united arab emirates -- >> that's right. so most of it is in those countries. some of it is coming to europe as a result of travel. the numbers are still very small. the fact that this has been around for almost about a year

and we only have about 77, which is not big in the big picture of the world, this is a very good news. is something going to change, are we going to see the change in the face of this or mutation, we don't know yet. one of the big distinctions between mers and sars is the way they enter our lungs and the way they cause respiratory infection and kidney failure is completely difference. sars had a different receptor, and it was able to get into lungs and cause respiratory pneumonia, kidney decide, etc. this one doesn't have that capability yet, so that's very good news for everybody. i think, you know, being careful and looking if you have any kind of symptoms which we can talk about is very important. arthel: but the likelihood of that is pretty slim to none that you would have, you know, but people do travel. give me a quick idea of the symptoms. >> yes. if you ask my own personal opinion as a physician, i don't see immediate danger, but i don't think we should put our

head in the sand and forget about this. the whole world is, obviously, global. people travel and they can come and bring this, but the big thing is that the person-to-person transmission has not been a big thing with this virus. that's a big deal, and that's an important message. if you have runny nose, fever, you know, body pain, any kind of respiratory issues that's not going away, you have to see your doctor and find out what's going on. arthel: makes sense. dr. saw matty, always good to see you. >> thank you so much. arthel: we'll be right back.

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>> on a crucial day of testimony in the george zimmerman murder trial, a look now in sanford, florida, court is in recess and they will be back in session following a lunch time break shortly now. earlier this morning, jurorors heard emotional testimony and spectacular details about the moments right after trayvon martin was shot to deathment welcome to america live. i am gregg jarret. >> and i am jamie colby in for megyn kelly. trayvon's mother and father took the stand both say they