>> on a crucial day of testimony in the george zimmerman murder trial, a look now in sanford, florida, court is in recess and they will be back in session following a lunch time break shortly now. earlier this morning, jurorors heard emotional testimony and spectacular details about the moments right after trayvon martin was shot to deathment welcome to america live. i am gregg jarret. >> and i am jamie colby in for megyn kelly. trayvon's mother and father took the stand both say they believe

it was trayvon was the person. the doctor revealed that the teenager was alive up to ten minutes. can you imagine being the parent. george zimmerman was paying a lot of attention to it. and phil keating is live in sanford, florida with more. hi, phil. >> hi, jamie, the medical examiner saying how trayvon martin's brain was a live for another full ten minutes and he arrived with one bullet in his heart. no tears out of the still grieving trayvon mother sabrina fulton, she is one of the most anticipated witnesses of the trial and saved for the last day and prosecutors hope to seal l case with her testimony. on the stand george zimmerman faces life in preson if

convicted of second-degree murder and the jury heard the 911 tape. >> i want to go out there and so what is going on. he's yelling help in >> yes. >> those are gun shot. >> you heard gun shot? >> yes. is that screaming or yelling, do you recognize that >>. yes. >> who do you recognize that be. >> trayvon benjamin martin. >> the brother opened the stand he did not first identify those screams as his brothers. >> we heard it in the mayor's

office, i was like, i wasn't, i guess i didn't want to believe that it was him. so that's why during that interview i said i wasn't sure. >> the medical examiner is now back on the witness stand. the court is back in session and the judge sitting up there and the attorneys are having orth bench conference here. what was going on proir to the lunch break cross examination of don west, on the medical examiner. he seemed to be referring to notes that he had written down, and the defense attorney wants those entered into evidence and possibly going to make a motion to impeach the witness because he had prewritten out all of his anticipated answers which may be a problem for the judge. back to you. >> interesting to hear the

medical examiner saying he couldn't recall being there. phil, thank you, and stay on it for us. >> we are not done yet. throughout the newscast we'll bring you the highlights from the testimony and we'll ask the legal panel if the prosecution has done enough to prove its case and we'll look at the next steps in the emotionally charged trial. >> our other top story this morning, tensions are rising in egypt. deadly new protest threaten to divide the count row further. a live look at ca iro on the screen. they are protesting the ouster of president mohammed morsi and then on the right, images that turn ugly. earlier when the pro morsi forces clash for the new interim

government and so much going on. connor powell streaming live to break it down, connor? >> the muslim brotherhood vowed to turn out to protest the removal of mohammed morsi. and the military deployed troops and equipment all over the city. clashes resulted and three people have been killed and many more injured. the military only use teargas and not used live fire. but there are numerous reports of the military opening fire and injuries western media and ejingzs that are protesting. in a surprise move, the head of the muslim brotherhood made a surprise appearance in one of the protest. he came out and condemned the military coup. and he urged the military to return the country back to egyptians and he also said he would be willing to work and

come to an understanding with the ejepgz military if they return mohammed morsi to power. that so manies unlikely. mohammed morsi is out and they are working with the opposition that are happy to see morsi removed from power. and mohammed morsi's whereabouts are still unknown and one of the reasons for the clashes today are because members of the muslim brotherhood were trying to march on the republican headquarters. the situation is tense and getting more violent and before the night ends here, we expect to see more violence going forward, jamie. >> we'll check back with you. conner, live in ca iro. it is a busy day for him. 54 hours after one of the presidents is ousted from his office, the obama administration remains noticeably quiet and coming up, we'll look at the

president's cautious approach to the upheaval in egypt and ambassador john bolton will weigh in on the administration's current stance and the political motives behind it. gregg? >> a now investigation now in the obama administration's decision to delay a key piece of the president's health care law. and now the man date requiring employers to provide health care or face a fine will not go into affect until after the midterm election. but house republicans are demanding answers on why they were previously told it is all on schedule and no big deal. they also want to know what provegzs could be delayed next. we have the digital politics editor and host of power play on fox news.com, live. nchris, is this delay for what is a central part of obama care evidence or confirmation that this is a law that is poorly

conceived and recklessly written before being rammed through congress? >> when you put it that way, i don't know if it sounds to hot for the law. i tell you what this is confirmation of the law. the pat didn't want a man date in the first place. remember what the man date was? that was the fiscal responsibility and that was the moderate democrat part and the president said it would cost trillion over ten years and not add a single dime to the deficit. he used that to get modivate democrats, they were in complete control of washington, but they were having trouble to get the law through. he had to make blandishments and this is part of that. it should not be surprising at this point, that the president has less enthusiasm for enforcing parts of the law he didn't like in the first place.

you know what the president is doing by excutive fiat, seems to some people illegal. and here's why and i read this in the wall street journal. they tracked it down and i give credit to them. section 15- 13 of the law. ective date, the amendments made by this section shall and that's my emphasis added apply to months beginning after december 30th, 2013. the key word is shall. in the law that is mandatory and no discretion and change it. the president can't impose the man date when he likes. to it said it shall happen. but of course, it wont be the first time the president has rewrit know a law he doesn't like. >> and absolutely and congress doesn't like making law.

congress likes making suggestions. you can take, this sound far afield. the war powers issue. we haven't declared war since world war ii because congress found it icky. they prefer to let the president do it and he cedes the power to cabinet secretary. and congress will not do his job and the president does the job and finds a cut out to do the job. when you do comprehensive legislation, law makers know that lawyers like you are siowa fting through looking for what is what and in the end, it doesn't really matter because the secretary of what makes the determination and what they say sounds good in reelection time but in the end it is up to member else. >> in the end, the 2,000 wafers is in violation of law and they have done it and no one challenged it in a court of law

and so this probably won't either. and chris, there is an outrage factor here, the president is giving an advantage to large companies which small business and individuals don't get. arguably it is not only unfair, it is discriminatory. >> sure, big companies wereoc with this law. it is maul companies that didn't like it and maul employers that were most upset and national federation of independent businesses and leading organization of maul groups that went to the court court fighting the law. big business does good business with big government. they don't mind regulation and the same way as maul business and people cracking in the marketplace. and so in the end. big business and democrats are okay with each other and it is small businesses and people who favor regulation who have had difficulties in the past.

always great to talk to you. >> and we are closely monitoring and much anticipated day in the george zimmerman murder trial. really heated cross examination going on there. court is back in session and a dramatic morning including the testimony of trayvon martin's mother and his brother took the stand and the medical examiner who conducted trayvon's autopsy. we'll give you the roundup on what was accomplished this morning and left of the prosecutions's case. the judge wants it over and done with today. >> and the 4th of july celebration turning into an absolute nightmare. four works shooting into the crowd. how did things go so horribly wrong? >> and a horrifying accident critically injuring two girls. we are getting an update today on their condition. stay with us. .safe driving bo?

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building and power line and car. the 217 years old were limp when first responders a ratified unconscious. and investigators are looking into what caused the cable to break. this week they held a prayer and vigil for the two girls. power struggle in egypt. president of ousted president mohammed morsi are pushing back against the take over. and things turning deadly when security fores opened four on protestors marching in carotene and all of this as the military cracks down on the former political allies. john bolton and a fox news contractor and ambassador, great to have you here today. >> what can the pro morsi protestors hope to accomplish at that point? he's been ousted?

>> they don't acknowledge the legitimacy of the coup and laying ground work to rejoin a political process when the military government lays out a schedule for election and they will use the coup as a powerful argument in their favor that they played by the rules and morsi was elected in a free and fair election and the parliment was elected and the military and opposition didn't like it and staged the coup and the other possibility and we see evidence of it already that the brotherhood will resort to violence and this could be the beginning of a very chaotic period depending on how it plays out. >> look at the picture in the square in cairo. these folks are celebrating the ouster and seems like more of them than those who want morsi

back or at lost they support him and they made high profile arrest with within the muslim brotherhood. what do we know about the people taken into custody? >> the army clearly knows who the leaders of the brotherhood are. they know how to repress the brotherhood and the spreading number of arrest and seizure of tv stations and the like indicates that the military is fully prepared to go a head and dismantle the brotherhood as a party. both the brotherhood are beyond the play bock and they didn't anticipate it would he this far. captain military shows no signs of backing down. there is a lot of opposition to morsiine mong people who welcome a islamist government because they thought morsi had his priorities wrong. he did not do what needed to be done in reverifying the economy.

he focused on a islamist state. and a lot of people wanted to get the economy fixed first. i wouldn't look at the size of demonstrations to indicate where public sentiment lies. >> how about our sentiment, ambassador? the white white hasn't said that much. how fine of a line must we walk in terms of speaking out or getting out or any way assisting in the next elections that are hopefully democratic? >> there is hardly and evidence at all that the obama administration has a policy. obviously in adeleicate situation you want to be careful about what you say publicly but that is different what you are doing and saying behind the scenes and what is curious to me, the administration after a very bland statement, that is the polite way to put it has just apparently been enacted.

it is huge stakes in egypt and it is an important part of the middle east peace. and has important economic interest for us in the suez canal and as far as the eye can see, the administration appears to be taking a pass. >> money is provided to that country bite u.s. and not calling it a coup may be a extra teggic move. you mentioned the economy not coming around the way folks there hoped and do you have an opinion on continued to contribute or monitor carefully? >> i would keep the aid flowing particularly to the military. and all of the talk about why the administration can't call it a coup and can't speak the truth conceals the fact that in virtually all of the presence.

it is a presidential wafer power and the president can waive the prohibition under the law and i think it is another examine of not facing up to the reality we see on the ground. and we'll continue to watch it with you. thank you so much. >> thank you, jamie. >> there is growing outrage over the reality she stunts and the family of a hero firefighter who lost his life on 911 is calling out the bravo network. >> and dozens of people hurt in a 4th of july celebration. what caused fireworks to fire on the ground instead of the air. a live report coming up. out there owning it.

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the crowd in the park. it was 9:30 last night. and police blame a premature detonation that caused it to fall over like dominos and exploding in the fireworks and that's what you can see the big blast happening. it was a terrifying moment for the 8 or 10,000 people gathered there. >> it was as if they had several mortars tipped over and set off a team reaction. things going up in the crowd and smoke billowing everywhere. >> people of all ages were treated from minor to severe jurisdiction and snapinal like wounds and burns. there is no investigation of foul play. in a statement the operator bay fireworks said this. it dopely regrets that people

were injured and the equipment was inspected and they will contact a thorough and complete investigation and make the findings available to the public. sadder news from 4th of july events. a sen-year-old by died with a gun shot wound to the head in virginia. they don't think the shooting was incontinuational, just recklessly and two other boys died separately in maryland and oklahoma when they were struck by vehicles in the respective parades. very sad and back to you, gregg. >>dom nick in los angeles. thank you. >> and still a head. brand new reaction to the obama administration's stunning decision to postpone a part of the signature health care law. we'll debate. >> and court resuming in the

george zimmerman murder trial. we'll keep you updated with the breaking developments as they happen. and the prosecution wraps up the case we'll take a look at done enough to approve it. ♪

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the job direct is steady and actually higher. more people were looking for scomboshg the jump for people with part- time jobs is not. job gains on the board and retail and health care and construction. and the president's economic advisors say they are opening their pocketbooks wider as they are confident in the economy. >> arts and entertainment and retail trade. those injuries are stronger in the last couple of months and that is a sign that consumer, feeling more confident. >> a lot of the jobs are part- time and so- called underemployed workers jumped to the highest level in 18 months and the secrester is partly responsible and bigger blame goes to obama care. >> and a lot of businesses are

hiring more workers and reducing the work week for the workers below 30 a week and so they can reduce the cost and hit republicans say it was not good enough. in a written statement the unemployment rate is far two high and the president is promoting policies that undermine robust job creation. >> jamie. >> and appreciate it live in the white house. >> new reaction to the obama administration decision to delay part of the president's health care law. and the requirement that many businesses provide insurance for workers who will pay a fine that is postponed until 2015. and they get a pass for a year. a lot of employers are happy

approximate that. and they think the more the public learns they will want it repealed and delayed. we'll talk to the host of the allen combes and fox news contributor. it is good to see you. before we talk about potential repeal, that is tried before. alan, it is a president that is all about fair share. >> you sound sarcastic. >> me, sarcastic what makes you feel so? how is it fair they will get a pass for a year and small businesses and individuals do not. >> that is harder time 15 or employees are less is the cut off point and they don't have the profit margins and this is what they asked for and the chamber of commerce applauded this. i think republicans are in sync

with. it the disparity with the large and small business do and in terms of the profit margins and i would think conservative would be in sync with this. ny put on the screen the affordable health care act that is renamed the unaffordable health care act. it is mandatory language. the president doesn't have the authority to do this, does he? >> it is the sheer optices of the disaster from the obama administration perspective. they are making the announcement in a holiday week and hoping that no one will notice. and second of all. it is a craven political act to wait until the midterm election. you raised something that is crucial. it is illegal. this is by man date and the idea that executive pi if at supercedes the provision shows

this guy that is utterly above the law. and i hope they challenge it. let me finish. transparency as you mention. obama is all about transparency. and this is a crave sxep crass political move and to say we are wait by executive fiat. we'll have to wait and see. >> go a head. the reason it is delayed because of the conservative challenges to this and the attempt on the part of the right to stop the implementation of the law. >> that is not true. that's what the wall street journal and washington post reported. nconservative tried to hold it up by lawsuits that held up the ability to move forward. >> excuse me. the obama administration needed more time to study the implications of this. this is obama's decision. >> and because of the delays caused by conservatives.

>> shouldn't it bother you that the business community objects. >> i want to throw a couple of polls on the screen. obama care was back room deals and it was not transparent to begin with and now the delay that was secretive as well. is there any wonder why it is so unpopular? 58 percent. and 60 percent of the americans want to repeal obama care and 66 percent makes it feel worried about the health care future? >> it should be telling, and my friend acknowledges that the business community is against this and how can anybody with an ounce of common sense a flawed the centerpiece of obama's president see and break the backs of businesses all over the country. what is bad for business cannot be good. >> they were warning they were going to start pyring people and turn full- time in part- time

and cut back on wages because of the employee participation is a premium. doesn't that have a dire economic. >> if i can respond to the polls by the way, among those are a number of progressives like myself who are more progressive health care plan. when you say 58 percent are against it they are not all against it from the right but on the left. nalan, if you acknowledge that the business computer en masse how can it be good for the country. >> it is good for an average person who is not a corporate ceo and not an owner of the business. it is doing more in the next hundred days as it becomes part of the american cultures more americans are for the bill. >> can you make that argument for someone who loses jobs and hours. nmajority of the people are not

in that category and the number of people are covered. >> you can have tens of this happeneds and a million people who are jobless. >> more people will be helped and you will see a mass positive on this. >> and there are business owners who are mort foyed this is coming down the pike. that is telling and this is going to get repealed? >> really think so. they tried then times, mike. >> the obama administration is waving a white flag of surrender. >> i got to throw in the red towel to stop alan combs and mike. depend to see you. >> great to see you guys. >> this may be the final day for prosecutor in the trial of george zimmerman. the medical examiner still answering questions. but the jury is not in the courtroom to listen. we'll have the latest analysis a

head. noutrage over a tv stunt that mocks a tribute to a firefighter that died on 9/11. >> and new hope for a family who made international headlines when their daughter vanishes. detectives opened a brand new investigation in madeline mccan's disappearance. >> there is no clear definitive proof that madeline mccan is dead. there is a possibility that see is alive. i ask the public to continue to look for her.

new testimony happen negligent joerng zimmerman murder trial. the medical examiner who did the autopsy on trayvon martin is on the stand and let's listen in. >> you believe it was 1- 10

minutes? >> yes. as to the marijuana, in last november you believed that there would be no physical or mental affect by the marijuana. >> yes. >> and today you believe there would be? >> in the last 60 days. i tried to prepare this testimony. >> so the last 60 days, you have believed that there is a toxicological significance to the level of marijuana in that it would. >> stick to the richardson issue. it is whether or not that information was made known to the state attorney's office and if they failed to pass it on to you. do you have any other questions regarding that issue of the doctor? >> your honor, with the court's permission, i would like to expand this such a little bit.

admissibility. >> i am not on that issue at this time. we are talking about the richardson violation and whether or not it was one. this is a richardson hearing. do you have any other testimony you want to elicit or witnesses to call on that issue? >> no, ma'am. >> the state has any other witnesses to call? >> your honor, i will she counsel my question on this issue and he can share that with the court. what issue are you talking about? the one. >> and now the judge explained and perhaps you understood. they are holding a richardson hearing. there was a question on whether or not the prosecution received evidence from the medical examiner that they did not in turn over to the defense.

we'll go back when that decision is made. doug burn system a former federal prosecutor. and sometimes called the brady hearing. what is it that the defense is trying to accomplish here doug? >> they are trying to say something exkuptatory. and the prosecutors are under's continuing obligation through discovery and trial to turn over something that might favor the defense. and so having a quick hearing to determine the exact chronology of when they provided the information to the prosecutor and whether or not they failed. >> why wouldn't that be done in the jury. it is too late if the jury heard the information. it is a hearing to determine if

the state somehow operated in a way that would warrant sanctions and if there was misconduct involved. that should not be done in the presence of the jury and this is an issue that the court addresses first. you have to be careful about what the jury hears. if it is not deemed evidence it is not in front of the jury. >> this is the decision of the judge. how relevant does that have to be to the case or does that not play in the ruling. >> it does play in the ruling, and sometimes it is a issue, and a lot of times what happens is a lawyer will ask a witness, an expert to say did you make notes? >> yes, i did. >> do you have them with you. >> your honor, we would like the notes immediately produced and it is annanceulary matter. your ponent is good jamie f. it really matters and really important it will make

a difference. if there is a technical violation and failure to turn something over that doesn't matter it will go away quickly. >> the prosecutor is it have that obligation. it is to turn it over. it's not a choice they have. >> the defense now has made their argument. before we go to break and we'll take this to break, what the judge is saying? >> mine have my notes all over the them. >> we do at some point before we finish. >> that's fine. >> let's go ahead and bring the jury in. >> the judge how has brought the jury in and we'll learn what her decision is now and we'll learn much more about the case.

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welcome back, everybody. i've been watching this george zimmerman trial from the very beginning. today is definitely the most heated day that we have seen. we will bring doug burns and faith jenkins back in. we will listen in to the courtroom now to hear whether the medical examiner has anything else to say. >> who packaged the clothing, would indicate on the packaging they nevada it and then sign the

package. and whoever's hands that package traveled and who signed it indicated the chain of custody. >> yes. >> in this instance, you don't remember specifically if you were present when mr. martin's clothing was removed and packaged? >> normally, i should be there. >> of course, but you don't specifically remember? >> i told you, i do not remember anything on the day of autopsy. >> but you have a procedure where buy -- whereby the clothing is removed by one of the assistants and packages it and photographs it? >> yes. >> you have no reason to believe that wasn't done in this case? >> yes. right. >> once the clothing is removed and on it's way to being photographed and packaged, you then do a preliminary inspection of the body? >> yes. >> one of the things you may be

wondering, why is it if george zimmerman has said he shot trayvon martin, why does it matter how the autopsy was handled? how the evidence including the hoodie trayvon was wearing was packaged? the medical examiner said it was put in a paper bag, that's routine. we heard in earlier testimony it was put in a plastic bag which may have contaminated it for later evaluation. another fact that came up, looking for defense wounds or injuries or evidence under the fingernails of trayvon martin, it was said that his hands were not bagged at the scene. did they lose evidence there? these are all questions being examined today in fierce cross-examination on the stand of the medical examiner. >> let's listen in to more of the medical examiner on cross-examination. >> is it the practice of your lab to use one of the little wooden sticks for all five

fingers on each hand? >> yes. >> why is that? >> i did not -- i did not write the protocol. i don't know. >> do you know who did write the protocol? ? i don't know either. >> is that okay with you that they use one stick for all five fingers? >> i -- that's not my job. i would not worry about it. >> would you agree that if you use one stick for all five fingers, there's no way to identify which finger may have had the biolog>>alyeah. you -- >> the defense on cross-examination trying to cast out on the overall credibility of this medical examiner and we'll be right back. i help support bones... [ ding! ] ...the immune system... [ ding! ] ...heart health... [ ding! ] ...and muscles. [ ding! ] that can only be ensure complete! [ female announcer ] the four-in-one nutrition of ensure complete. a simple choice to help u eat right. [ major nutrition ] nutrition in charge.

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a fox news alert. this is a critical day of testimony in the george zimmerman murder trial. i'm jamie colby. welcome to brand new hour of "america live." >> i'm here for megyn kelly. the doctor who performed the autopsy on trayvon martin is on the witness stand testifying about the final moments of trayvon's life. on cross-examination, the defense is trying to introduce the work by this medical examiner is sloppy and you don't have to believe anything this man has to say.

>> i cannot keep my eye on them. when i do autopsy my hand is gloved and bloody. >> are you doing and autopsy with bloody gloved hands when the fingernails are scraped? >> no. i look at them before we do autopsy. after we look at it, we write down, we should write at the point we start autopsy and we never look at it again. >> so you're saying you don't know whether or not it's standard protocol to make fingernail clippings as well as scrapings? >> no, i don't know. i don't even know that protocol exists because it's not part of my job. >> may i approach the witness? >> yes, you may. >> i am going to show you what a's called an evidence accountability sheet. you have that? >> yeah. do i have that.

this one? >> right. do you see that there's a check box for fingernail scrapings that's checked? >> yes. >> you see one for fingernail clippings that is not checked, correct? >> yes. >> that tells you then there were no fingernail clippings as part of the autopsy procedure here? >> actually, i remember in texas they do clipping. here, they do scraping. it's the chief's call. the chief of medical examiner office makes the decision how to do the business. i'm the associate medical examiner. my job is determining the cause and the manner of death. i would not worry about the protocol of the technician. >> you don't worry about whether the technician is following the protocol of the office, not your job? >> yes.

no. >> in this >> did you do a blood draw for routine toxicology in this case? >> we tried to get blood for every case. >> so in this case, there was blood drawn, as part of the routine autopsy protocol for submission to a toxicology lab for analysis, is that right? >> yes. in my notes, i would note that

the blood is from trayvon's chest. >> right. >> for toxicology -- >> objection, your honor. the issue we previously addressed. >> the court has made a pretrial ruling about this matter. please by abide by the court. >> yes, your honor. for toxicology purposes, the blood that was drawn was from the chest area, correct? >> yes. >> for toxicology purposes, it's better, is it not, that the blood be drawn from a peripheral source? >> yes. the peripheral blood is the best most choice, such as femore blood. >> femor blood, somewhere down in the leg? >> yes. >> in this case, did you attempt to get peripheral blood? >> yes. >> how do you know? >> i do not remember.

you want to catch me, i do not remember, i told you, generally speaking, okay. >> uh-huh. >> we try to get a peripheral blood first. if we cannot get peripheral blood, we try heart second. if we cannot get blood from the heart, then we try something else. in this case, trayvon martin has no blood left everywhere else, all blood is in the chest. that's our only option, i believe. >> you are suggesting. you saw the photos. >> yes. >> obviously, your staff took them. there was no source of blood anywhere in his body other than the chest -- >> i have that -- >> wait until he finishes with his question and then you may begin your answer. >> the question was wrong. >> is it your testimony that there was no source of blood for toxicology purposes that would qualify as peripheral blood? correct? >> if there was peripheral blood, we would take it.

>> do you know what attempts may have been made specifically this case? >> you ask me -- >> may we approach. >> just one second, please. >> much is being said here about the blood drawn, for the purposes of toxicology. now, remember that debra nelson, the judge, had made a pretrial ruling on a motion in limine before this case ever began and she said there will be no mention of marijuana use associated with trayvon martin, however, she did allow the defense to bringp again, with her, to argue it yet again, if they can show some sort of relevance. one wonders, jamie, whether the defense is sort of angling toward that, to find out, to let these jurors know that in toxicology, perhaps, there was marijuana, traces of marijuana in the bloodstream.

>> if i can add something, only if the prosecution opens the door and say there's not, could they? i think the reason is not so much about the sloppiness of the autopsy but the fact they waited so long to do it and draw the blood, that they were not able to get all of the direct and best evidence. you know the best evidence rule as well as i do. >> that's right. >> let's listen in. >> we should get blood from peripheral, if there is one. >> okay. >> in this case, i do not think there is one. >> do you do that yourself? are you the one that draws the blood for that purpose? >> i never draw blood from the body. >> in this case, who drew the blood that was submitted as part of the toxicology? >> objection, your honor. >> wait. when there's an objection, you can't answer until i make a ruling. thank you. the court has made a pretrial determination and i'm asking counsel to make sure you abide by that. >> certainly. do you know who drew the blood?

>> i believe it's ben. >> he was the hands-on guy, correct, in terms of insisting with the -- miss feller was the clean hands person. >> yes. >> it makes sense it would have been ben dorton then? >> yeah. >> let me have 107.

may i approach the witness, please? >> yes, you may. >> i will show you state's exhibit 107, already in evidence. >> okay. >> it's a better quality picture than the ones on the screen. would you take a look at that? do you recognize those to be the pants that trayvon martin was wearing at the time the autopsy was performed? >> yes. this is one of the photos i have. >> correct. >> that is a case number so i believe it is. >> that came from your office? >> yes. >> taken by miss feller, most likely? >> yes. >> is considered part of the case package? >> yes. >> and you would have seen those pants at some point? >> yes. >> your honor, could i publish it briefly? >> yes, you may. >> pass it down.

you've had an opportunity to look at all of the photographs that your staff took in connection with this autopsy? >> yes. i went through it many many times. >> i'm sorry? >> i went through these photos many many times. >> am i correct that there are no photographs that show the palms of mr. martin's hands? >> did not recall. >> take a look. >> i looked at photos of the abrasion of the left fingers. >> i know. if you have them, if you have them in your memory, just tell me, if you can, are there any photographs that were taken that show trayvon martin's palms? >> no, i don't believe we have tha that. >> is it part of your protocol not to photograph the entire

body, all of the body surfaces? >> the protocol is we take photo s of the whole body, we take three photos to cover all the body because we don't have space to get a camera too high, very high to get one full of the whole body. other than that, we take the photos as needed. for example, if i found something i thought may be significant, such as the injury or tumor, a disease on the skin, we will take photo. >> are you saying it was a conscious decision by your staff member not to photograph the pas hands? >> i palm, generally spe speaking, for every case, because the body come in, the hand isi-contracted.

i hold it straight and if i don't find anything i do the s test. >> you don't take a picture? >> i don't take a picture for anywhere i don't think is significant. >> so you're making a decision on the fly what might be significant later and make a conscious decision not to photograph certain parts of the body? >> it was my decision, i think. i looked at it. i did not see any injury, i did not see any disease, so we just move on. >> that's what you're looking for is injury or disease. ye yes. >> likewise, you don't have any pictures of trayvon martin's fingernails, is that correct? >> i do not believe we have that. >> was that also a conscious decision not to take a picture that would show his fingernails? >> it's not a particular decision. i believe we -- >> we will pause and take a

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right now the medical examiner still on the stand, the defense counsel trying point out whether he looked at every part of trayvon martin's body. did he x-ray it or photograph it and if he didn't what might have

been missed. >> the top surface of the skin is basically rubbed off? >> yes. >> there were a couple little ones on the pinky fingers? >> yes. >> i know your testimony was it could have happened up to two hours before mr. martin died. is that correct? >> i said that this small abrasion could happen two hours before trayvon martin met george zimmerman. >> that's based upon your visual inspection of the abrasion itself? >> yes. >> so it's really hard, i take it, to know precisely when someone received and abrasion injury? >> yes. you cannot say very specific. >> so it could have been two hours? >> could have been two hours before, could be -- could be during the struggle with both guys. >> it would be consistent with a

blow? >> not consistent with a blow. consistent with- >> you're saying you wouldn't get an abrasion like that by striking somebody with your fist? >> you could. >> you could, right? sn>> yes. >> sure. you could also get an abrasion like that by scraping along some cement. >> yes. also could be on the way down after he was shot. >> so on his way down to the grou ground? >> uh-huh. >> after he was shot is what you're saying? >> could caused this injury, too. >> could have occurred on his way down if he were on his knees? >> i said could on the way down for anything. i have no idea. >> let's say this. hypothetically if trayvon martin were on his knees leaning over george zimmerman when he was shot, you're saying he could have received this abrasion between where he was at the time of the shot and when he fell forward on the grass? >> too specific.

it is my opinion that it could happen before they met, during the struggle or after he was shot. >> you're not suggesting, are you, that mr. martin could receive the abrasion on his finger by falling on to wet soft gra grass? >> it shouldn't happen. >> it would require a hard ungiving surface of some sort? >> yes. >> something abri siv? >> yes. >> something like cement or something with a hard edge. >> yes, you're right. >> certainly not wet, soggy soil. >> i don't think so. >> now, you said also that it's not something that would bleed correctly, not bleed much? >> this injury, is there no blood. blood is still inside the tissue, still inside of capillary. >> can there be blood sometimes? >> shouldn't. >> right. can there be? could that wouldn't be enough -- >> when i looked at it, there was no blood. i'm not sure before. >> it could have been wiped off.

>> i don't think so. >> there could have been. >> it's so superficial, the blood vessel did not have injury. >> if there had been blood you didn't see it could have been wiped off. >> objection, speculation. >> sustained. >> the body reacts to being injured by putting some fluids, too, correct? >> yes. >> even if it's not blood, there could be some other bodily fluids that would start to heal? >> an injury for any place in the body, the body will try to get more blood to the area, to get more nutrition, to got mo more -- white blood cells to fight for the disease or injury. >> so if something came in contact with that abrasion,

clos those bodily thing, there coulf fluids, if not blood. >> there is no hemorrhage so there is no clot, just superficial abrasion. >> your opinion is if that abrasion were to come in contact with someone's clothing, there would be no transfer of biological matter? >> there could be because the superficial skin rubbed off. so i believe there is a possibility after this injury, the superficial skin could transfer from one person to another any time you have contact, you have substance transfer. it's called trace evidence, as in the book, what does trace evidence mean you have contact, you have something transfer. >> could we retrieve the exhibit? thank you, judge.

you mentioned on trayvon martin's height, 71 inches, 5'11". >> i never said height because the dead man cannot stand. >> i meant length, body length. >> correyes. >> correct. >> 71 inches, 5'11". >> 71 inches, 5'11". >> the weight was 158. >> yes. >> on the notes taken during your examination, that is a bmi of 22, correct? >> yes. >> do you know what bmi is? >> yeah. >> body mass index? >> yes. if he's obese, i will write down in the autopsy report. if he's in normal range, i will -- >> i want to take you back just a few seconds now that they described the measurements taken of trayvon before the autopsy. what was the discussion about trace evidence? there was skin missing from the

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. >> back live to the george zimmerman second degree murder trial. this is the medical examiner being cross-examined that trayvon martin was a lilive 1 minute to 10 minutes after being shot in the chest, he said based on his experience of performing autopsies. let's listen again. >> this autopsy, from research you've done, people you've consulted with, or textbooks that you've read about how long someone is likely to live after sustaining the kind of injury

that mr. martin did. >> for the gunshot wound to the heart, do i have the experience several times, back in alabama, back in texas and in this office -- >> has that ever been memorialized- >> yes. in my memory, so i have no -- very -- i have no more than 50% of confidence that they are not accurate. that's why in the deposition i give you, 1-3 minutes which is very safe. >> let's talk about that for a moment. you acknowledge that your first opinion was -- and the one you expressed in writing and at your deposition last november -- >> yes. >> was that it was 1-3 minutes, correct? >> yes. in the deposition, i told you it was 1-3 minutes because it's my

job -- >> now, forever you would let me ask the next question. i don't mean to interrupt if you're not finished but i want to set the stage. so it was 1-3 minutes back in november. >> yes. >> and it continued to be 1-3 minutes until the last 60 days? >> yes. until three weeks ago. >> until three weeks ago. and then you changed your opinion and expanded it to more than twice, almost three times as long, more than three times as long. >> yes. >> from 1-10 minutes. >> because i have new experience. >> and that's experience personal experience? >> yes. >> not experience or information that you gained from review iin journals or articles or textbooks? >> no. >> your hands-on experience? >> my hands weren't on, my eye was on. >> is this because of a specific case you were working on? >> yes. three weeks ago -- let me say this case -- >> if you would, tell us exactly

what it was your experience was three weeks ago that caused tumor than triple the ti time -- caused you to more than triple the time trayvon martin was likely to have been alive. >> three weeks ago, we had a case. one guy, about 40 years ago, 40 years old was shot by his father. his father was the real self-defense and he called 911 right away. we have clear -- >> i'm going -- i'm sorry. is this information that's in your personal knowledge or are you relying on other people's reports? >> my knowledge, because the reason i did not do autopsy on this case, while i have great interesting on this case -- >> hold on. okay. she needs to be able to hear everything you're saying. what is it you're missing? >> my knowledge, the reason i did not -- >> did not do autopsy on this case, but i have very great interest on this case because

this case is a similar to trayvon martin's autopsy. this 40 years old was shot. the gun through the heart also right ventricle, through the lever. in trayvon's case, the bullet to the right ventricle of the heart and to the lung. very rare, this is kind of one of ten years of opportunity that we know exactly the time he was alive. his father called 911 right away and he was in pain and made some painful noise and the 911 people actually hear that. he was pronounced dead 10 minutes after he was shot, very clear time. very rare you can have clear picture of people was shot how

long he alived, so in this case, this guy, 40 years old, shot by his father, calls 911 right way, we have clear picture he was alive for 10 minutes. i was interested in this case because i'm preparing for this case, so i believe if you shoot the heart, people can survive 10 minutes. >> okay. that's your frame of reference, then. >> yes. >> that other case, where there's some evidence that the person was alive longer than your first opinion of 1-3 minutes? >> yes. >> would you agree the range could be quite different? >> oh, yes. >> depending on the circumstances? >> yes. >> you couldn't really say in every case where someone was shot in the heart, they would survive 10 minutes? >> no. this was 1-10 minutes. i did not say about 10 minutes or 10 minutes, i say 1-10 minutes. i give myself plenty of margin of error.

>> so, that's really 10 time, isn't it? >> yes. >> 1 to 10 minutes is a huge -- >> yes. let me tell you, that is opinion. >> is that as accurate as you can be? >> yes. >> let's then talk about something else you said in connection with that. if i heard what you said earlier in direct, that you said that immediately following the shot, trayvon martin would not be able to move. did you say that? >> yes, i did. >> is that your opinion, that based upon the shot to mr. martin's heart, that immediately upon sustaining it, he would not have been able to move? >> and also i can experience- >> answer, if you would answer the question, first. is that your testimony, that immediately upon receiving the injury to his heart -- >> we will pause, take a quick break. stick with us. more of the cross-examination of

the medical examiner who performed the autopsy on trayvon martin. >> you're also saying he would not be able to talk? >> yes, i did say that.

that's basically the question the defense is trying to get to with this medical examiner, what's your opinion? not speculation? were you there? what did you see? what did your notes say at the time. the medical examiner, according to this defense questioning changed the time trayvon martin would have lived after the gunshot by ten times his original estimation. what's the relevance of that? did he tell the prosecutor at the time he changed his notes in the days prepping for his testimony here? and did the prosecution tell the defense? let's continue to listen in. >> what physical activity they're capable of and for how long after sustaining a similar injury? >> okay. for human study, we cannot do

experiment, so in this world, nobody knows -- >> your honor, the answer's not responsive. >> the answer is nobody knows? >> yes. >> just leave your answer i wanted for the next question. have not finished my answer. >> i is in. wait for the next question. i understand. >> you are saying there is no research available to assist you in reaching your opinion. >> you cannot do this research. you can not kill anybody -- >> sure, you can't do it in a laboratory, you can't shoot people in a laboratory, that's not what i'm talking about. >> i believe the case i had three weeks ago -- we had three weeks ago is one of the best in the world. very rare you have clear picture of the shot to the heart, what he did, how he suffered, we have clear picture. very rare. i believe you can write a publication to be read by everybody in the world. >> very good. you haven't done that yet? >> no, i have no time to write a

publication. >> have you researched whether anybody else has on similar subjects? >> i did not do any research. >> you mentioned on a lot of these issues, you researched a lot of the material and the textbooks out there in the scientific community, correct? >> yeah. i do that routinely. >> so, let's talk about -- >> i do that what? >> routinely. >> let's talk about then the gunshot wound itself. >> okay. >> do you agree, and is it your testimony and opinion, that the damage to the shirts was as a result of contact with the muzzle of the gun and the fabric itself? >> yes. loose contact, i believe. >> do you agree, and is it your opinion, that the wound to the skin is not a contact wound? >> no. >> are you saying it's your opinion that the wound to the

skin is a contact wound? >> is not a contact. the contact would be very very differen different. >> so it's your opinion that the wound to the skin is not a contact wound? >> yes. >> and if it had been a contact wound, that would be a pretty easy thing for a medical examiner to see? >> yes. >> there would be -- the stellate type tearing of the skin? >> easy. normally i can make a decision in 3 to 5 seconds. >> that's kind of rookie thing, if you will. an obvious thing to someone with your bruand? >> we do it almost everyday. >> what your testimony ultimately is, that there is some distance- >> yes. >> between the fabric and the skin -- >> i did not say between the fabric and the skin -- between the skin and the muzzle of the gun, there's some distance.

>> that's what i'd like you to be clear on, so i understand it. you're saying that there is some distance between the muzzle of the gun and the skin? >> okay. >> so -- >> when i say contact, is not contact to the clothes, contact to the skin. okay. >> are you saying that if you contact -- >> contact -- >> clothing and the clothing is next to the skin, that you're not going to see evidence of a contact wound on the skin? >> it depends how you contact it. the two contact, loose contact, and the hard contact. if you -- the gun through the clothes, press the clothes very hard to contact skin, then i would see the imprint of the fiber of the clothing on the skin. >> you would also see that stellate pattern you're talking about, the tearing?

>> you may not see that if it's hard contact. >> you're saying if the barrel of the gun were pushed against the fabric, against the skin, you would see fibers in the skin, you might see the stellate tearing but not necessarily? >> i -- i cannot answer that question because i -- in this case, i believe is not. >> you believe what is not? >> i don't believe it is cont t contact. in my autopsy report, i give you three ranges. contact, intermediate, and indeterminate, means i cannot tell. in this case, for me, it's also like three second session. he had a stippling, in ttermedie range. for me, i'm different from the firearm technician. they use the chemical method and use actual shooting to determine the range, they give you whatever, 1 inch, 2 inch. >> so let's talk about how you

determined your range. >> i used the definition. so if it is stippling, it is in the intermediate rang. if it's in the intermediate range, it is stippling. >> let's just break that down just a little bit more. >> okay. >> if it's not contact, then it's the next closest distance, by your definition, would be intermediate? >> yes. >> there's no such thing as close range? >> some people do that. in this case, some people will call close range, but i don't do that. because -- >> so you go from either contact to intermediate? >> yes. >> in your mind, based upon the resource materials, intermediate can be from less than half an inch -- >> yes. >> all the way out to 4 feet. >> yes 0.4 inch to 4 feet, that's what i said in the

deposition. >> the way you know that is because you know it's not contact? >> yes. >> and you see this stippling or tattooing? >> yes. >> you know that there is a point -- there is a distance where the gunpowder drops off, somewhere around 4 feet. so if the shot is beyond 4 feet, you're not -- >> you cannot see the stippling, yes. >> you are not going to see stippling? >> yes. >> you will only see the bullet hole. >> for this case, when i give you my opinion in the deposition, i need to be safe. so after i determine is in the intermediate range pattern, then i search the book, i found out the closest -- >> let me be clear. have you changed your opinion at all from what you gave last fall? >> i did not change opinion because in the book is still there, book is still sound. >> which books are you referring to? >> i have several books on my

shelf. >> did you refer to any of the books by dr. vincent de mayo? >> yeah. them. >> you consulted dr. de mayo's book on gunshot wounds? >> yes. >> and after consulting his book and others -- >> again, trying to decide what the authority is or the basis for the medical examiner's decisions in this case in this autopsy, what did he really do personally? what are his notes based on? did his notes change before his testimony? much more when we come back. >> i do reading about this matter since deposition. ding! ] ...heart health... [ ding! ] ...and muscles. [ ding! ] that can only be ensure complete! [ female announcer ] the four-in-one nutrition of ensure complete. a simple choice to help u eat right. [ major nutrition ] nutrition in charge.

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attorneys. thank you both for being with us. there was a hearing outside the presence of the jury, in which the defense tried to convince the judge to allow evidence in front of the jury that there were high thc levels, marijuana usage in the blood of trayvon martin. before the trial, the defense argued it may have affected his behavior that night. the judge is not allowing it. what do you think of that ruling? >> once again, she's coming down on the wrong side of the argument, greg, which she seems to be pretty consistently doing throughout this trial. the hearing you're reference going is called a richardson hearing and whether the prosecution essentially bahadoor health evidence from the defense. from the argument i heard and i listened to the whole thing, i would have ruled exactly the opposite what this judge ruled and outside the presence of the jury, this medical examiner said large amount of of thc would

have affected trayvon martin. so why isn't that coming in? it absolutely should. >> keith, what do you think of this? if somebody is intoxicated on some level during a fight and somebody dies, it -- doesn't that strike you as relevant? >> greg, it's such small minimal trace elements that's why it has no indication in this case and no evidence it impacted trayvon's actions. i agree with the judge here. it's symptomatic what's going on with this jury, one thinking one way and another a different way. you never know what's going on in the jury's mind. did the prosecution violate the brady rule, which is to provide in discovery anything that may exonerate the defendant. the prosecution stood up and said, your honor, look at my notes prepared for this examination today, i have it down the suspected answer is 1-3 minutes. we did nothing wrong. he changed his testimony. he can cross-examine him on that

and stick to your original ruling and that's exactly what she did and in so doing chastised the defense attorney and he's doing an excellent excellent job. >> the defense attorney, don west, on cross-examination has tried to suggest to these jurors that this is a medical examiner who is a little bit sloppy. he's not the guy who did the fingernail scrapings and, of course, we've already heard testimony that the dna of zimmerman, the accused, is not under the finger names of trayvon martin. but this is a medical examiner who didn't cut the fingernails. >> exactly. there was a question as to whether all of the fingernails were examined or just one. what this medical examiner is accomplishing right now, greg, he is confusing the heck out of this jury, i don't think he's necessarily doing it intentionally. if you kcan juxtapose, testifyig on direct he was looking at the jury and giving opinions that really have nothing to do with the cause and manner of death.

whether trayvon martin suffered pain is something speculative. we don't know whether he was unconscious the moment the bullet hit his heart. bullet hit his heart. cross-examined, have we gotten a straight answer? i don't think so. >> keith, what about the dna? >> now i'm going to flip-flop. now we're on the same page. this is how you throw a punch. your fingernails are balled up. the fact that zimmerman's dna is not under the nails of trayvon martin is irrelevant and has no bearing. i think this witness got on the stand as an expert, he became an advocate for the district attorney's office, trying to prove second degree murder, and the defense did an excellent job. they eviscerated him very slowly, methodically, his testimony is as harmful now as dust in the wind. >> sometimes witnesses are on the stand for days and in the end after the decision by the jury, the jurors say, that didn't really mean anything to

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>> quick recap from the legal guests before we go. we also heard the mother testify today and the brother. what impression was the jury left with from their testimony? >> they were both class acts on the stand. however, i think mark o'mara is rather genius in that he put forthin front of the jury in his questions what he wanted the jury to come away with. he was not going to get the mother to change her mind. she is a mom. but he was brilliant in his crossings examination of her.

and the brother did a fine job, too, and the messaging from that was they were two different people. trayvon martin might not have been the brother -- the brother was older. trayvon martin wasn't there yet and that was the only message the defense wanted to get across and they did. >> the mother was forced to admit on cross-examination she heard that 9-1-1 tape and identified her son crying out for help, for the very first time when he was in the mayor's office. does that demonstrate to the jurors perhaps some bias here and a political agenda, political pressure? >> i hope they have the same reaction i had. the mayor's office? why there? why not the district attorney's office? why not the police station in is this a politically motivated prosecution? that's never michigan the prosecution wants injected into the trial, and once again, it's their witness, the evidence

favored thele defense. and your heart breaks for these people. >> he seemed like a fine young man but even though he identified himself as trayvon martin's brother, the truth came out he is actually the stepbrother and they didn't live with each other all that much, and in fact didn't associate or, quote-unquote, hang together very much. so, for him to be able to identify the scream as his stepbrother's, again, questionable. >> but the point of the whole testimony, greg, is to say that this mother raised this other son to go to college give the jury hope that trayvon, had he lived, would have had the very promising future. >> that was the subtext. >> if agree with that. the other interesting thing that didn't come in was the interview that his brother gave with the news, when he said, really couldn't tell whether it was him at first. >> they actually asked him about that and he had to admit that sheepishly. >> a lot going on in this case. we'll continue to follow it. but our time is up. guys, thanks so much for being

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>> are that's going to do it for us and our continuing coverage of the trayvon martin/george zimmerman trial. >> we just learned that the prosecution has not yet rested their case but they're taking a ten-minute recess right now. probably the predicate before

they rest. >> i imagine the medical examiner is taking a tall glass of water because he was put through the paces. >> thanks so much. see you tonight on the fox report. next, "studio b." >> a fox urgent at 3:00. tensions rubbing high at the murder trial of george zimmerman. when trayvon martin's mother told the court it was her son screaming for help in a 9-1-1 call from the night of the shooting. watch our the mother sat stone-faced while prosecutes played the call. >> i i don't know what's going on. yelling help? >> yes. >> what is your -- >> is there a gunshot? >> yes.