to "the factor." again, thank you for watching. i am bill o'reilly. please remember, the spin stops right here, definitelyoong out for you. this is a fox news alert. new information tonight about what investigators believe may have caused the asiana jetliner to crash on the runway at the san francisco international airport on monday. i'm in for sean tonight. according to national transportation safety board chairwoman, the plane traveling 39 miles below the target speed before the crash that killed two teenage girls and injured more than 180 passengers on board. earlier today, fire officials confirmed one of the victims may have been struck by an emergency vehicle responding to the crash and ntsb officials said they have reviewed surveillance footage but do not want to make

a conclusion until they examine all of the evidence. for the latest on that developing story and more, we go to claudia cowan, standing by at the san francisco airport. claudia. >> reporter: good evening, eric. a federal investigator has spent the past few hours talking to the pilots and the flight crew and those interviews will be critical, by all accounts, no problems with the airplane until just seconds before it crash landed on saturday. also recovered some of the wreckage that wound up in san francisco bay, including what they are calling a significant piece of the tail, which is believed to have hit the ground first. specifically the seawall at the front edge of the runway. investigators with the national transportation safety board say the landing went from routine to disaster in less than 10 seconds. >> they were cleared to land by the towers. and then there was the accident sequence and the subsequent

launch of the emergency responders on the airport property. >> reporter: we know from the flight data recorder that the plane was flying some 40 miles per hour slouwer than it should have been. we know that the crew tried to abort the landing, but it was too late. growing questions about the pilot at the controls. that pilot had logged 10,000 hours flying 747s and other wide bodies, only 43 hours on the boeing 777. this landing, part of his training and first ever into san francisco on that particular model aircraft. dramatic pictures from inside the plane show the extent of the damage. earlier today, some of the first responders described the chaotic scene with smoke, leaking jet fuel, and the race to get to frantic passengers trapped in their seat belts. possible as you mentioned, one of the two teenage girls died may have survived the crash, but run over by a responding fire engine and autopsy done to determine exactly how she died.

autopsy results will not be released for several weeks. meantime, with three of the four runways here in san francisco international airport now open, more flights able to get in and out and more stranded passengers who spend the past few days scrambling to make other plans are finally able to get on their way. no word on when the fourth runway will reopen, the wreckage of flight 214 still out there and will stay out there until federal investigators are satisfied they have everything they need. back to you. >> claudia, thank you for the report. more on the ongoing investigation, let me bring in former ntsb managing director peter goelz and mike boyt. mr. goels, mr. lee had logged only 43 hours, and one of the practice flights was doomed flight 214. are there u.s. standard? and do foreign airlines,

international airlines have to abide by those as well? >> they have to meet a broad set of international hours. the 43 hours in this plane is not by and of itself a problem. two pilots in the cockpit. a senior pilot, participating in the landing. what's he doing during the last 20 seconds? why isn't he doing his part to make sure that this landing is successful? the voice recorder is going to tell the tale, and i think it's going to be a pretty sad >> the voice recorder, recovered those, but also interviewing all four pilots. apparently two crews of two to kind of combat any sort of sleepiness, drowsiness that went on. let me ask you this, mike boyd. will the result of this crash eventually change some of the faa rules requiring, i don't know, more hours before they attempt a landing like this? >> it may or may not.

i think peter is right. talking about professionals in the cockpit at this point in time, including a checked pilot. let the airline get away from them, obviously. there is some good where learn something so it doesn't happen again. i think this was simply a human failure in the cockpit. >> the way we understand it, according to deborah hersman, ntsb chairwoman, about seven seconds before impact, the crew notices that they don't have enough air speed, and the stick shaker before they try to call an abort mr. goelz, should the stick shaker go off before 4 seconds off impact? >> the stick shaker gives the pilots a very short warning that they are in very deep trouble, that they are about to stall, but the real problem of this

flight as mike indicates, started earlier. what were they doing? we'll listen to it. there are checklists, approach plans to review. they should review the notams that are out. notice to airmans that say the glide slope it off. we will find out, i think, that these pilots didn't do a very thorough approach and got behind the plane. and by the time the stick shaker goes off, it's too late. >> the glide scope, a radio beam that shows you how the approach should take place. i've read, and i'm not a pilot, i've read if you don't have that beam and coming in over water, your approach is over water, sometimes there can be optical illusions. is this a recipe for disaster? and can we learn going forward from this crash? >> sure, it makes it somewhat more challenging. other avonics equipment that the pilots can use. hundreds of pilots obviously

have landed on runway 4 without the glide slope as it's being repaired. that in and of itself i don't think is a problem. >> let's talk about impact. some say the pilot continued to fly the plane and maybe kept the plane from flipping over, inverting, which would possibly cause a lot more fatalities. you care to comment on that? >> i have no idea. i saw the tape of the airplane hit the ground or hit the runway. by the time it got back in the air again it looked like flying recollecta wreckage, not an airplane. i don't know what happened. we're very fortunate only two people died. >> there is some indication that there is some korean being spoken in the cockpit before the crash, during the crash. can you comment on what are the requirements for flights landing on u.s. soil, what are the language requirements? >> the international rules are anything -- once are you below

10,000 feet, have you a sterile cockpit. no extraneous discussions, and the pilots, each one of them have to be proficient in english, that's the international language to fly an airplane. >> okay. and, mike, talk a little bit about -- i've read this flight may have come in very high, started too high, came in too much of a steep slope, giving it that i guess the wrong angle for landing. heard about that? >> i don't know. deborah hersman kind of pooh-poohed that, we don't know until later. it get into the same point, who was playing the airplane and how they were flying it. it's real clear, with the safety record of this airplane, 1,100 of them delivered to airlines and only six of them out of service after 18 years. not a plane issue, a pilot issue. >> those pilots will be interviewed today and will

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welcome back to "hannity." new developments regarding the violence on the streets of cairo. 435 injured during clashes outside the republican guard building today. conflicting reports of how the violence began. with supporters of morsi saying they came under attack by egyptian military. however, the military claims they were fired upon first. according to reuters, the muslim brotherhood called for more protests on tuesday and earlier today, the obama administration said it's not taking sides at this time and jay carney also addressed the growing calls for the u.s. to stop sending foreign aid to egypt. watch. >> president obama made clear our deep concern about the decision made by the egyptian armed forces to remove morsi from power and suspend the constitution. also important to accident njkn

that tens of millions of egyptians have grievances and don't believe this was a coup. they were demanding a new government. it wouldn't be in the best interests of the united states to immediately change our assistance programs to egypt. >> here with reaction to the crisis in cairo and more, kentucky senator rand paul. thank you for joining us. let's start this out right away. this was a coup in cairo, in egypt? >> absolutely. when the military takes over and they depose an elect government, that's the definition of a military coup. the interesting thing, though, mubarak, a year or two ago, also toppled by a coup. a law on the books that says you don't give foreign aid to military koupz whecoups, and we to do it and think we'll influence these people by continuing to throw money at them. i think it's a real mistake. >> why hasn't the obama

administration called it a coup? >> i think they are confused on this. so many supporters of foreign aid think that's how we buy friendship and influence people. there was a gallup poll in egypt, and 77% of egyptians don't want our money. they burn our flag, don't want our money and we say, here, you must take it. behave and act like americans, but there isn't a whole lot of real democracy going on over there. >> maybe this has something to do with it. section 508 of the foreign assistance act says "none of the funds appropriate otherwise made available to this act will be obligated any assistance to any country dually elected head of government is deposed you about a military decree or coup. maybe they don't want to be put into that box? >> you hear the president's response, oh, we have a democratically elected acting

undemocratically. democracy is where people vote and a majority wins. we have something different in our country. we have a democratic republic, where the majority gets to decide policy within the constraints of the constitution. that's the real problem over there. there don't seem to be any constraints other than rule of the mob and that's why you have chaos in egypt. they don't have the same sort of history of a constitution we have in our country. >> senator, would it be different if this happened in another country? >> the thing is, you wonder. in our country, if the military took over and let's say we deposed a democrat president and put a republican in, that's essentially what's happening in egypt. would anybody not call that a military coup in the united states if that happened? i think if it happened in germany we'd call it a military coup. they think there is a different standard for the third world or developing world. that's a mistake. we have a lot of problems in our country. we don't need to be sending money to people who are burning

our flag, hating america. they don't hate us any less, they look at us with depressiri when we do it. >> a couple of months ago, senator john mccain was disagreeing with you. he seems to be agreeing now, but this is what he said in january. >> one of the major stabilizing forces today. if egypt cuts deeper into civil conflict, the one force in that country that might be capable of pulling egypt back from the abyss is the egyptian military. if the senate adopt the amendment by the senator from kentucky, we would not only harm the effectiveness of the egyptian military which by the way is not objected to by the israelis who probably understand better than anyone what defense capabilities might be used someday to threaten their security. >> senator, back then, keep the aid coming, now agreeing with

you? >> well, the bottom line, we don't have the money. we have to borrow the money from china to send to egypt. the other point, what are you seeing over there, the mass revolt of people who don't want to be dictated to by anyone who is not elected, so the military finally got rid of mubarak, because they are unhappy with unconstitutional rule of mubarak and now unhappy with the same islamic rule for the muslim brotherhood, instituting another un-elected government forced out by the military, the american taxpayer shouldn't be forced to support that. >> senator, let's talk about leadership very quickly. i don't have a lot of time before we move on. secretary of state john kerry said to be yachting during this military coup and two days later, president obama hit the links, hit the golf course. your thoughts? >> you know, i've asked secretary kerry directly about this, and i asked him, should foreign aid be dependent on

behavior? and he said no. and if you're not going to make it dependent on behavior, what kind of leverage do you have on these countries? if they think we're a sap and we'll continue to give them money no matter what they do, they'll just half as they cash their check. i disagree with president obama and secretary kerry. if you are going to give money at all, froebl not a good idea. if you give it, should be dependent on behavior at the very least. >> senator, quick question where we let you go. obama care, the delay to 2015 for the employer mandates. your thoughts? >> i'm for a permanent delay. and that would sit well with the american people. this will cost us a fortune. individually, i have no idea what my insurance will cost. we will lose jobs and the people they intended to help, the people poor, struggling, don't have insurance, what will have after this, they may not have a job. >> senator, one quick question. governor perry from texas

announced he will not seek re-election as governor. maybe looking toward 2016, are you wanting to welcome him to your fold? are you announcing your run? >> if governor perry decides to run for president, three reasons key be president. a long-term governor. texas, a big successful state. and i can't remember the third one. >> very good. very good, sir. well done. thank you, senator rand paul. very good. >> coming up next right here on "hannity." >> you know whose voice that is? in the background screaming? >> yes. definitely. it's georgie. >> it was another explosive day of testimony in florida at the george zimmerman murder trial when we return, legal and law enforcement experts will be live in studio with analysis. [ male announcer ] frequent heartburn? the choice is yos.

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welcome back to "hannity." two new developments regarding the george zimmerman trial. first, the judge ruled today that the jury can hear evidence about trayvon martin having marijuana in his system when he was killed. and the trial could come to an end where the week is over, according to reports, defense

attorney mark o'mara wants to rest by wednesday or thursday, meanwhile, the major focus of the defense today was the 911 tape from the night of the shooting. close friends and former coworkers of zimmerman testimonied it was zimmerman's voice on that tape. watch. >> you know whose voice that is in the background screaming? >> yes, definitely. it's georgie. >> have you an opinion on whose voice that is? >> i thought it was george. >> why do you think that? >> just the tone, just the volume and the tone of what i was hearing, it was something that -- because i talked to him as much on the phone or had, before this incident, as i did in person. so hearing his voice over a recording is something that your tone is a little different and sounds a little different over the phone, it sounded like george. >> you could hear the noise or the yelling in the background? >> yes. >> could you identify whose voice that was yelling in the background? >> george's. >> how do you know that?

>> i recognized his voice. i've heard him speak many times. i have no doubt in my minds that's his voice. >> do you have an opinion as to whose voice that is in the background? >> yes, i do. >> whose voice is it? >> george zimmerman's voice? >> how do you know that? >> we've spent a lot of -- have occasion to get together many times. i know his voice. >> i was a combat medic in vietnam. >> explain what that is. >> you're rendering medical aid to your men that are hurt. when you're in a combat situation like that, in the din of battle, for some reason, you develop -- i'm not sure what you would call it, an ability -- when you hear that, you can

distinguish screams for help. there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that is george zimmerman. and i wish to god i did not have that ability to understand that. >> here with reaction, rod wheeler, heather hansen and remi spencer. we want to get to the voice and why it was so important on the tape. first, breaking news, late this afternoon, the judge allowed the fact that marijuana was in trayvon martin's system at the time of his death. why is that important? >> i think it says more about zimmerman than trayvon martin. pot doesn't tend to make you more violent. what zimmerman said on the 911 tape, it looks like he's been doing drugs.

i think they introduced it so it would look less like stalking and more like he has a reason to follow him. >> we know it's trace amounts of marijuana and we know marijuana doesn't make someone violent or aggressive. i think it will taint the jury a little bit about the victim, so it certainly is a win for the defense, but it's certainly not the winning part of their defense. >> rod, it seems to me that the defense feels like it is a victory getting that information in, right? >> well, i'll tell you, eric, i think it will have a backfire effect on the defense. let me tell you why. multiple people high off drugs and everybody knows, documents in the record, marijuana as a drug doesn't affect how aggressive a person becomes. there are other drugs that will make a person aggressive. marijuana is not one of those drugs. i think at the end, the prosecution is going to bring that out to make sure the jury understand that. >> okay. so let's talk about this.

we saw the tape earlier of the friends of george zimmerman saying that was his voice on the tape. chris serino, the lead detective. tracy martin, trayvon mart you know -- martin's father, says it wasn't his voice. >> i don't recall the number, but it was relatively clear. as clear as i had. played off a -- i believe off a cd. it might have been digital, an e-mail, i don't quite remember, but it was played and it was audible. >> okay. and what was mr. martin's response? >> emotional. understandably so. and i let him listen first. >> i'm sorry? >> i let him listen first before i asked anything. >> what did you ask him? >> i believe my words were is

that your son's voice in the background? i think i said it a little differently than that. i inquired if that was his son yelling for help. >> and what was his response? >> he -- more of a verbal and nonverbal. he looked away, and under his breath as i interpreted it, said no. >> heather, have we reduced this down on to who is on the 911 calling for help? >> i think that's what the lawyers think it's coming down to. the lawyers really driving this point. if it comes down to that, the defense has won. seven witnesses have identified zimmerman's voice. trayvon's father says that he couldn't identify it. if it comes down to that, defense wins. >> do you put george zimmerman on the stand? >> i don't think you need to. not in light of what happened in the case. this is the unique case where

the defense can establish a self-defense without ever having to testify. the state put zimmerman's interview with sean hannity on in the state's case in chief. the jury heard his self-defense claim. i would not put him on. the defense way ahead, six, seven witnesses saying that's george zimmerman's voice. a detective on the stand to say the victim's father didn't recognize the voice. these are crucial facts that certainly establish reasonable doubt. >> let's take a listen to the victim's father, tracy martin. i want you to respond. listen to tracy martin. >> if i didn't tell him, no, that wasn't trayvon. i think that the chairs had wheels on them, and i kind of pushed away from -- away from the table and just kind of shook my head and said i can't tell. >> so your words were i can't tell. >> something to that effect. but i never said no, that wasn't my son's voice.

>> is this creating enough question in the jury's mind, rod? >> no. and let me tell you why. i agree with my esteemed copanelists here. it's important, but it's also inconclusive. that's what the jury i think will come back and say. one thing we know, quickly, this. whoever was yelling for help, stopped yelling help after the gunshot rang out. george zimmerman had help, he had a noi.9 millimeter. why did the yells stop? >> if it's inconclusive, if it's inconclusive, the defense wins, it's the state's burden, not just to prove this happened and also to disprove the self-defense beyond a reasonable doubt. >> you're right. >> reasonable doubt exists and too much is questionable and inconclusive why is why the defense is in a really good

position. >> rod, go ahead. >> go ahead, eric. i'm sorry. >> no i want to hear your response. >> to some degree, however, this is only one piece of a lot of evidence. and there have been seven if not eight, versions of what happened according to zimmerman. we have to be fair and balanced to everyone, not only to zimmerman, but to trayvon, because he's not here to speak for himself. >> stay right there. live coverage continues right after the break and colin quinn sits down with sean for a wild interview you don't want to miss and logon to hannity live and to share your thoughts go to hannitylive.foxnews.com. to take the next step. today, y will know you did something for your pain. cymbalta can help. cymbalta is a pain reliever fda-approved to manage chronic musculoskeletal pain.

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welcome back to "hannity." still with me, legal and law enforcement experts. rod wheeler and heather hansen and recommendi spencer. let's talk about the media treatment. prior to the case, the media had this thing sign, sealed, delivered, guilty verdict. >> amazing what the defense has done with a verdict almost assumed. mark o'mara tried to counter this stuff before the trial start. got out, put out some of the stuff about trayvon martin not so well known. we may have had a jury that only had one version of the facts. >> talk about the jury. can they be completely fair and

balanced? a lot of media coverage of this prior to even picking the jury? >> i represented clients in high-profile cases and it's hard for us to sit here and say how could they not be biased or swayed? the truth is, they can. we have important rules to make sure the jurors will be open minded. haven't been tainted by the press. been sequestered. swear under oath not to read these stories. i believe it's very likely that he is going to get a fair trial and a fair jury. >> let me get rod in here. are you surprised the different trial are you watching? >> not really. i've been studying these types of high-profile cases for years. agree with heather. the media does influence not only the jury but the case overall, and, unfortunately, i think this case, taken over by the politicians and that's exactly what this is.

when the politicians took over this case from the local police department, this case started going downhill, and that's why we're in the situation we are in today. if the police department in sanford, florida, had been able to can handle the case, we woul have a more trial. >> the jury now knows that. the chief of police testified that he no longer has that job. >> you juxtapose race, you juxtapose the law, and politics. this is what happened. a prosecutor's office that may not really be seeking a conviction here. >> why do they do that? why did they take it away from the original? >> it goes back to your point. the media. the media got a hold of this. certain people in the public eye got a hold of this. there were marches. the problem these people had was with the stand your ground law that led to zimmerman not being arrested. >> i don't know if it has to do with the law. the law is the law.

there's self-defense in just about every state in this country. the media was misleading. we know nbc edited that 911 tape and spun the story in a different way. >> had he been arrested the day that this happened, the trial would have gone on without any of us knowing about it. >> let me interject this. i don't think we can blame it totally on the media. i go back to the politicians. they tried to pamper those certain individuals, those types of groups and they got involved, we can't necessarily blame is that on the media. >> who are the groups they are catering to? >> who got them involved? >> go ahead, rod. >> eric, i think it depends on the witt case. look at a number of case. in this particular case, the politicians in florida, seeking re-election, and so they wanted to pander to certaincommunities.

if zimmerman is guilty, charge him. if he's not guilty, don't charge him. >> part of the testimony today was the trainer, i believe he owned the gym george zimmerman worked out at. listen to this. this was compelling to me. >> he was -- and i really don't like to use this type of terminology. >> we've heard words that we don't normally use. >> soft. just physically soft. you know, he's not a, you know -- he was a overweight, large man when he came to us and a very, very pleasant, very nice man, but physically soft. predominantly fat. not a lot of muscle. >> you look at him in the courtroom today, gained 110 pounds since the occurrence, is that part of this? is it possible he put on the weight for that reason? >> i don't think so. i mean, obviously the defense wanted to introduce that, eric.

i don't think that will play a role. zimmerman, physically soft or hard, that night zimmerman was hard. why? he carried the .9 millimeter. it is what it is. >> i get it. but the question is, did he break the law? stand your ground law says what? >> well, self-defense is what they are using here. is reasonable to believe that he to use the force to avoid great bodily injury. i don't know how the jury says no. >> remi. >> the law says in florida you don't have a duty to retreat. if you are in danger, you have the ability, under the law, to use deadly force. that's what they are saying. he was being attacked and he is protecting himself and deadly force was appropriate under the florida law. >> under stand your grown, there would be immunity. this is a self-defense case. i still think the jury finds if they use the facts --

>> very little time. a verdict comes down when? >> thursday afternoon, friday morning. >> i say very quickly. thursday. >> i agree. i think very quickly as well. and this will end up being a manslaughter case. a case of manslaughter, not second degree murder. >> and that is not in george zimmerman defense. >> no. it will be 25 years. >> sthis is manslaughter. >> great discussion. coming up next on "hannity". former "saturday night live" colin quinn sits down to talk about his hilarious one-man show. and we talk to george w. bush in a rare tv interview. stay with us. fighting constipation

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psychotic. this guy dropped the nuke twice in one week. the first time -- and nobody cared. the first time he dropped it, guys, japan is not going to surrender. we just got that new a-bomb. thinking about dropping it. the public was like do it. >> a clip from comedian colin quinn's offbroadway show, unconstitutional. sean sat down with the former "saturday night live" star to talk about his one-man routine that talked about national calamities in only 77 minutes. >> you are doing the show unconstitutional, it will extend to movie theaters. >> yes, it is. >> rave reviews. >> good reviews. we slice them together and they look great. very good reviews. >> tell us about it. >> sort of the story of the constitution, and, you know, comedic form like i did any

other stohow, "long story short sean, thanks for not seeing it. netflix, $2. >> i'll pay $5, just to get off the hook. >> but it's about the -- how the constitution, the mind seth of how the constitution got formed like what it means. i was always reading about the constitution, this brilliant document. i don't get it. last yore i started researching it, and all about modern terms, about -- you would like it, all about how we are the way we are. american mentality. >> all right. you wrote this yourself. >> yes. >> and you perform it yourself. >> well, you don't have to say it like i'm 12. yes, i wrote it myself and i perform it myself. going to give me a cookie? come on, sean. i'm a professional. >> captivate an audience. funny. >> i don't want to use the word

captivate, but you're right, captivate. >> what did you learn about the constitution nah you didnthat y know a lot about? >> i understood the philosophy and why people are still fascinated and why it's so relevant. whatever people feel about it, the whole world still looks to it like wow. it set our mentality to this day. everybody from like, you know, even when reese witherspoon gets arrested, yeah, i'm a citizen. we have that mentality. >> not all of us do. the average person that gets arrested doesn't say will find out soon who i am. >> but they do say i know my rights. >> some people do. >> most people do. what are the first 48? the zimmerman trial and the first 48 show. >> think about this. our constitution, our rule of

law. the constitution, we're a lawless society. >> right. >> okay. >> i'm saying, a lot of places have constitutions that they are like egypt right now eshgs ploweding. for some reason, almost everything in this country, divided as it is, everybody believed the constitution is a pretty amazing document. pretty impressive, don't you think? >> i do, but i actually feel -- my friend mark levin. >> yes, i do. >> he thinks we're in a post constitutional era. i agree with him. >> i'm not a big legal --ith more about the spirit and the sipsychology than individual cases. >> has reaction been different from liberals and conservatives? >> so far, no. it's been in the village, so i don't know how many conservatives have come down to the show yet.

>> and you are selling it out. >> not allowed north of hallston. battery park, i can do a few shows there. >> i don't think i've been north of hallston my whole life. what die know. >> take this nationally? >> yeah. the hook is to play all 13 colonies and maybe do it in d.c. >> that's awesome. and movie form too? >> no. >> i thought you were going to put it in a movie? >> okay. don't put it in a movie. >> maybe somebody wrote it, but maybe, you know -- i mean, if you want to bankroll it. >> talk to levin, he's richer than me. >> is he really? >> i don't know. >> colin quinn. >> where people can find it? >> unconstitutional, google your name. >> we'll just let jerry bu buckheimer out of here. and he can get his new buddy,

armond hammond to star in it. he's in 23, in the mojave desert and feels great. and at 23 everybody feels great. >> he looks that way. colin, god bless you. great american, buddy. a key provision of obama care is dre''ed, health care once again the talk of washington. when we return, our very own dr. mark segal discusses that and more with george w. bush, don't go anywhere.

the health care debate fired up once again with the decision by the white house to there a a key provision of obama care. the implementation of the employer mandate pushed back to 2015. dr. mark segal caught up with president bush back in may and got his thoughts on the state of today's health care system and more. take a look. >> what do you think the future

of health care in the united states is, and what is the best way to approach it is? >> i think the most -- one important aspect of a good health care system is to encourage healthy behavior. and prevention. that's what we're doing out here, isn't it? preventing disease by staying fit. if people make better choices, the demand for health care will decline. secondly, i think it's really important for people to recognize we have the best, the most modern technologically advanced health care system in the world, and -- and, you know, it will eventually figure out the most efficient way to pay for it. >> i think you're a role model for health. something i'm missing. how do i get people off the couch, up and exercising like this? >> i wasn't a role model for a while. drank too much, smoked cigarettes, sat around. people have to make up their own

mind. you can't pass a law telling people to get off the couch. once people start exercising will realize the physical and mental benefits. it's an addictive habit, because you really do better, and, you know, i don't know. i think through example your show has helped people. riding with prosthesis over rugged terrain, when they try that, they will realize how good it makes them feel and the health benefits from it. one thing, if people are held response i believe for their decisions it might happy affect behavioral change. a health care system, for example, that has health savings accounts is one in which there are market forces, but the individual can realize the benefits of a healthy choice. >> that is all the time we have left this evening.

thank you for being with us. sean back tomorrow. but right now, over to greta van susteren, standing by to go live "on the record." greta. how could a pilot not know he was flying too slowly? tonight, spotlight on the 777 pilot, plus your first look inside the plane's wreck auj. >> this is fox news alert. looking at live pictures at san francisco international airport. we have confirmed through the faa that a boeing 777 operated by asiana airlines crashed upon landing. it crashed while landing at the airport after its tail came off while touching down on the runway. >> i looked over, saw the plane with the fuss ladies and gentlemen very high angle from the ground, facing