i want to thank you for -- i'll give you a hand for being here with us. and that is all the time we have left this evening. let not your heart be troubled. agr gretel is in orlando and coming to you live. >> it's up to the fate of six women. now in the hands of the six-woman jury and both sides getting one last chance to plead to the jury. >> the reality of what happened is very straightforward and it proves absolute innocence. >> do you think for a second that if trayvon martin had seen that gun ever there would be a gunshot at 90 degrees in the center of his chest? >> one piece of evidence, just one, just one i ask for, one that supports that contention. where is it? >> if that defendant had done only what he was supposed to do, see and call, none of us would

be here. >> it could have been don't belong in this courtroom. proof beyond a reasonable doubt. >> trayvon martin may not have the defendant's blood on his hands. but george zimmerman will forever have trayvon martin's hands on his. >> at that moment -- shoot trayvon martin, what other options did he have? none. to the living, we owe respect. but to the dead we owe the truth. >> the person who decided that this was going to continue and come to a violent end is the guy that didn't go home when he had the chance to. four minutes, to do what? to walk home? run home. >> four minutes is the amount of time that trayvon martin had left in his life. in the end, this case is not

about standing your ground. it's about staying in your car. >> i almost wish that the verdict had guilty, not guilty and completely innocent because i would ask you to check for that one. >> for the latest in the courtroom, wofl-fox reporter whatly bristol joins us. what a day, huh? >> certainly an interesting day. the defense had a chance to wrap up the case and present the closing arguments. they had an interesting animation. one they fought hard to use. started with two men up the sidewalk. their version of what happened. trayvon martin punching george zimmerman in the face and little by little you see the picture animate up to the windows, weaved in the 911 call. very interesting way of them kind of weaving every single witness that they had while they might have had slightly differing accounts and weaved them altogether and told the story of what george zimmerman

said happened that night. effective with the jury. the defense was also very big on saying, don't listen to your common sense. don't listen to common sense. you need to think about this case which is not what the prosecution had said at all. when the prosecution had their chance to rebuttal on the closing arguments today, they were really adamant about turning trayvon martin in to a child. this was a child. walking home from the store. this was a child who probably thought that this man that was following him was creepy. that's a child's worst nightmare. he was just trying to get home and he got killed. use your common sense. there's a man with a target and a child walking home from the store. >> with skittles. >> the prosecutors and defense lawyers, they gave a game face and word leaking out how either side feels that are lawyers? >> when you saw and the audience should know that the jury came back shortly after they started deliberating and asked a question and you could just see

everybody was at the edge of their seats like, oh my gosh, do we have a verdict? no. they wanted a catalog of the evidence to try to be able to go through that evidence because more than 100 pieces of it and some sort of logical order. and then at 6:00 tonight or right before 6:00 tonight as you know they said, hey guys, we want to go home. >> i was surprised. were you? >> not really. >> i thought they'd at least deliberate longer. >> i think people are looking in to that too much. >> i'm surprised they went home so early. they have been such hard workers. >> such hard workers but remember these. these are people cooped up for throw weeks with strangers that they've gotten to know. three of the newest buddies left the island and down to six. and this is the first time to talk about this case. i would imagine there's an overwhelming feeling of emotion among these people that are finally able to talk about every crazy thing that we have seen go on in that courtroom and everything that we have been dissecting day by day and this is their first time to talk

about it among the jury. >> thank you. today zimmerman's lawyer mark o'mara talking to jurors for almost three hours. >> i've called this case the bizarre-o case in my practice because sometimes it seems like it's turned upside down to me. not saying that you should agree with that but a perspective i have had in this case. how many could have beens have you heard from the state in this case? how many what ifs have you heard from the state in this case? well, they don't i don't think anyway, they don't get to ask you that. so, let's talk about my burden to prove to you beyond a reasonable doubt of his innocence at the risk of confusing you, i'm going to request that you not allow me to confuse you as to the standard. but i want to show you what the

evidence has shown concerning my client's absolute beyond question, beyond a reasonable doubt innocence. >> how did he do? joining us is our legal panel, in washington, bernie grim, jim hammer, here in sanford, florida, ted williams and diana tennis. ted, i almost -- i think i almost had a stroke as a defense lawyer hearing him say let's talk about my burden to prove to you beyond a reasonable doubt his innocence. i don't know if he'll win the trial or not but shifting the burden and saying he has to prove innocence, i almost fell over in the seat. >> i think every lawyer in the courtroom had that same kind of a response, greta. i was in the courtroom as you know. there was two contrasting different p ugalists or fighters. 0 mara was laid back. >> that can be code for boring and not drawing the jurors'

attention. i don't know if he was. >> there's that word boring. i think he's less animated but i believe he knocked it out of the park. and what he did was he kept using the word child versus grown man. and the reason he was using child because you've got all women on that jury and you have most of them are mothers. it was amazing. >> let's get back to the point of the innocence. i'm sure bernie grim loved him talking about the burden of proof of innocence. let's remind the audience, the defense never has to prove anything. it's the prosecution's burden from the get-go. your view on that? >> if the jury goes back, it's an argument representing zimmerman and i'm not being critical of 0 o'mara, you say t the jury if you don't know what happened and you're confused, that's a reasonable doubt.

jury instructions can be confusing and then in the midst of this you say, let me show you how i proved beyond a reasonable doubt that he acted in self defense. yes, it's a bizarre-o case. you assume this and burdened. the state must have said, oh, wasn't that great? somebody else has to prove something because we can't prove it. >> diana? >> i don't agree at all. he is known as the savant of closing arguments. i thought it was brill sant. he went in theory with a compromise verdict of manslaughter. here's what he's created. not guilty is now the compromise verdict. he's told them we have taken it beyond not guilty. you don't need to feel bad about coming back not guilty and i'm invite i don't go you to send a message, you just write in innocent on the bottom of the verdict form if you feel strongly about it. >> puts the defense lawyer on offense to satisfy a burden that he doesn't have. >> it does. >> the jury -- >> yet he came so much closer to

satisfying that burden with facts in evidence. >> it is not his job! not his job! >> the proof will be in the pudding. >> saying that if there's confusion, the defense wins, deadlock, because the prosecution has a burden of proof and except for the one i have. >> i think he made that very, very, very clear and he said, go back and talk about self defense first. if you have a reasonable doubt about self defense, we win. they have to disprove it beyond a reasonable doubt. i thought he did a great jb. >> jim? >> first of all, it's a huge mistake. period. peterson trial which i covered and we all talked about almost the ten years ago now the defense said we'll prove you who the real killers are and didn't work out in that case. it's a terrible idea. >> they didn't have the facts on their side. >> they did. i know it was a different case and it was a mistake in that case, as well. what o'mara is doing, i think ann's right. he lost the fight over the jury instructions and getting a chance at manslaughter and he is

deathly afraid of it. it's a huge mistake. i think the prosecution was effective in zeroing in on a young boy is dead. they'll want to find him guilty of something i think. >> all right. let's talk about what i think o'mara did really well. dramatic pause. stopped talking for four minutes to convince the jury that trayvon martin had time to run home instead of sticking around and confronting zimmerman. here it is. >> to do what? to walk home? to run home? four-minute mile was broken when i was like 12. by somebody. i think it was in his teens. i don't know if he played football. i don't know that he was a defensive guy on the football team. but i do know that you can run a mile in four minutes if you're in decent shape. so we know that with the opportunity to go home, that he did not.

>> four minutes is not the amount of time that trayvon martin had to run home. four minutes is the amount of time that trayvon martin had left on this earth. >> bernie, you know, if the jury believes that it was four minutes between the time that trayvon martin said that he was going to -- he was on the telephone and the time of the first gunshot, is that four-minute period, he had plenty of time to run home, that's what someone in fear does. someone not in fear, an aggressor, sticks around. i thought that was effective. >> you have to watch metaphors with the jury. somebody in pretty good shape can run a four-minute mile. i'm in great shape and never gotten close to that. the guy he was looking for, you should know this stuff. it was roger bannister. it's a long time. especially in this day and age when you have ipads and iphones and blackberries.

you can get information just in a snap. just like that. four minutes is a long time. what happened during that gap? i thought he did a convincing job of. >> ted? >> but bgreta, trayvon martin didn't have to run a damn place. there's nothing to show he was the aggressor. >> no, no, no. he was not there to testify. trayvon martin. you have to use evidence, circumstantial evidence from the outside and try to figure it out. if someone's in fear, you run home. that was about 30 yards. that's where you run when you're in fear. if you stick around to take on someone, you stick around. >> that's more an assumption. i don't think he had -- >> well -- you think -- you disagree with that? >> that doesn't mean that trayvon had to run home. >> i'm not saying that but if you're looking for reasonable inferences, that's a for likely reasonable inference. >> it's four minutes but he didn't go home. i mean, the inference is what he was doing. the thing is the state, all they

have is the angel/demon good versus evil, light/dark dichotomy and i think the defense is doing a great job of saying you don't know anything about either of these people. i'm just saying there's four minutes that he could have been laying in wait the same way you think that he was hunting. there's no evidence of evilness on either side and some point only one of them got physically hurt before the gunshot. >> what do you mean there's no evidence -- >> by the prosecution's count, zimmerman is making lie after lie and saying he's looking for aggressors and he was out following him. you have injuries which the prosecution says don't match the story. the medical examiner saying this isn't consistent. there's a lot of evidence. whether or not the jury buys it -- totally loses the prosecution's case. >> except a lie undermines your version. that's the -- may not prove -- >> her's the step the jury has

to make, greta. >> undermines the credibility. >> you're right. why did he lie in if they found he lied, he had to make up a self defense claim. the prosecution's case. >> i agreed with you, jim. i said it undermined your credibility. >> thank you. >> not used to me agreeing with you. >> no. i'm frankly shocked. i'm the only prosecutor. i'm kind of shocked but thank you. >> all right. now to o'mara explaining zimmerman's message to his wife right after the shooting. >> dropped the phone. gets it and says, words to the effect, your husband's been involved in a shooting. and what's the response from george zimmerman? tell her i shot somebody. he wasn't the one shot. unusual? inappropriate? somebody calls up and says, honey, i'm just involved a car accident. what's your first response? are you okay? you don't say is the other

person okay? it's just not natural. >> you know, jim i thought -- you know, that's a missed opportunity yesterday to show and to go after the prosecutor as intentionally misleading the jury and undermining the prosecutor and then today a flack response that i thought -- >> greta? greta? the lawyers -- >> what? >> these lawyers should be lucky you're not armed with a taser or bean bag. you would have shot them all. they don't object. they misstate the evidence. it's a huge lost opportunity. that's why we were right yesterday right when it happened. they should have stood up, embarrassed the prosecutor. that opportunity was lost in this case. >> absolutely. >> all right. and i will say one thing in defense of all of them. the prosecutor, the defense and the judges. easier for me to sit on the sideli in the arena. i have been there and i totally understand. all right. now we're never going to know that voice that's screaming on the 911 call but here's how the lawyer explains it.

well, i guess we are not going to hear how -- anyway, let me ask you about the reenactment. actually. we'll play that tape. >> i found out that there was a 911 call, somebody screaming on it, it was game over. figure out who it is. and then we're done. if i could get this to whoever, fbi, let's say, do a little comparison and we're done. you heard from the doctor, unfortunately, it couldn't be done. so now we don't know. now, as it was suggested, now you do get to decide i guess or not, of course, or not. you get to decide that you can't decide. and then who gets the benefit of that? mr. zimmerman. >> ted, strong point for the

defense if they can't decide. duelling mothers and fathers and relatives. >> if it's a benefit of a doubt, it goes to the defense. >> unless of course i might say sarcastically the defense has a burden of proof. i say with sarcasm. >> they don't have that burden and i don't know why they want to undertake that burden. >> the only thing i would say about that is i thought the defense definitively proved whose voice it was and i was surprised they didn't own that more firmly. i don't know how you compare the two sets of witnesses plus the other facts. to me it was obvious it was george zimmerman ice voice. >> you have the deceased's mother in the courtroom and if you own it you're saying she doesn't know her own son's voice and polite. it's tactically -- and if the jury would appreciate it more. bernie? >> yeah. i mean, the defense had openings here to drive a truck through. i was waiting for today, to the disadvantage of all of my

clients who, you know, pay me and i pay my mortgage waiting for this to happen and yesterday he said that zimmerman said he just killed somebody. absolutely false and in closing very critical you have the jury's trust and credibility. and then today it's just -- i agree. it was my client's voice. that's really no speculation about it. of course, there's a different sort of thing going on in the jury room, guilty, not guilty and then oh no, he said check the box innocent. did he prove the innocence? i'm never going to shut up about that. >> well, and well at least you are right now because we need a break, bernie. you have to for a second. all right. we have lots more to talk about. but first, tonight's hot button issue on gretawired.com. does mark o'mara's over the top courtroom stunt? go to gretawire.com and vote in your poll. did zimmerman's lawyer go too

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sides. because i know that both moms believe with their heart, with their soul that that was their son screaming for help. you have to. you want to. it's just the way you get through it. >> today zimmerman's defense lawyer explained the questioning of trayvon martin's mother. daryl park joins us. nice to see you. >> thank you for having me. >> sometimes they won't question the mother of a young man who died or a boy. were you satisfied with the way mark o'mara explained why he kronlged her? >> i don't think he should have called her. nonetheless, it was his decision. i think he'll pay for that decision in that he tried to compare himself to a doctor. probably one of the wisest things a doctor sometimes has to decide is not to cut. and not to have a surgery.

not everyone is a good candidate. but that was his decision. i think that his decision was pretty insensitive. there's some question of especially what hope she maintains. i think it really took a lot out of her to maintain her composure. and to answer his questions. >> what did she say afterwards? >> she was not happy. but maybe that was his intent not to make her happy. her answering that question meant nothing to this case. brought nothing of value of determines whether or not george zimmerman was innocent or guilty for the crime charged with. >> sometimes at least my experience in the courtroom is that i ask a clumsy question, i can do it on the air, one i regret later or especially in the courtroom. maybe it was clumsy and he's got to represent his client right there. >> i don't think it's anything

to do with asking that question. sometimes lawyers, we have egos and pushes us too far when probably the smart thing to do is be strategic, respectful and win your case on a point, not like that point meant nothing and in relation to the innocence or guilt of his client. >> all right. trayvon's mother got up there today and walked out of the courtroom and i believe there's autopsy pictures on the screen. it was that sort of planned or given notice that that was going to happen? coming up? what was -- >> most of the trial we have had some notice when the pictures are going up. today no notice of the fact they're going up and say, too, she has every night not to be there. >> i didn't mean it that way. i was not critical of her and only curious if -- the procedure here. was the heads up was given to the family. that was only -- >> part of the -- i didn't think of that. >> okay. >> i think most of the time she

has got up or out of the courtroom, i would take her out when i thought she needed a break, i would tap her out. and based on our advice to her. >> right. and tonight, have you had a chance to talk to her tonight now that the jury has the case? >> she's very tired, very weary. but she remains strong and is very, very much looking forward to receiving this verdict for the death of her child. >> you know, it's -- you know, nobody wins. i mean -- >> there are no winners. >> zimmer doesn't win. martin family doesn't win. it's a verdict tomorrow, whatever day it's going to be very painful for a lot of people. >> very. >> daryl, thank you very much. >> thanks for having me. >> coming up, from the night of the deadly encounter right through closing arguments, the case sparking controversy. the major events as they happened and the spotlight on judge nelson. >> is there anything else we needed to take up tonight?

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neighborhood. they say it's such a quiet neighborhood and they say that the gunman was a member of their neighborhood watch. >> he walked out the house to go to the store. he was going to the store. >> i don't know why they're yelling help. i don't know. okay. send someone quick please. >> does he look hurt to you? >> we understand that the local fbi office has been in contact with the local authorities and monitoring the situation. >> no justice. >> no peace. >> protests and marches continue today. in washington, chicago and st. louis. >> don't talk to us like we're stupid. don't talk to us like we're ignora ignorant. we love our children like you love yours. >> a day after the an ford, florida, police chief stepped down temporarily, the city manager assigned two cops to run the department for now. >> i stand by the sanford police department, its personnel and

the investigation conducted in regards to the trayvon martin case, it is apparent my presence is overshadowing the process. >> i think every parent in america should be able to understand why it is absolutely imperative that we investigate every aspect of this. but my main message is to the parents of trayvon martin. if i had a son, he'd look like trayvon. >> a dramatic day in central florida involving one of the most controversial police investigations in our nation. the neighborhood watch captain george zimmerman is now in custody. and he faces a second-degree murder charge. >> today we filed an information charging zimmerman with murder. >> we wanted an arrest and we got it. >> i think he's troubled by the fact that the state decided to charge him. he's concerned about getting a fair trial. and a fair presentation. >> we are learning more information about the night

martin was killed and report reeventualing that george zimmerman suffered several injuries in the alleged scuffle that he said drove him to shoot the unarmed teen. >> reports of a closed fracture on zimmerman's nose, two black eyes, two lacerations on the back of his head, bruising to the upper lip and cheek and not diagnosed with a concussion. >> is there anything you regret? do you regret getting out of the car to follow trayvon that night? >> no, sir. >> do you regret that you had a gun that night? >> no, sir. >> do you feel you wouldn't be here for this interview if you didn't have that gun? >> no, sir. >> more than a year since trayvon martin was killed, george zimmerman walking in to the courtroom as opening statements in his second-degree murder trial are about to begin. >> george zimmerman did not shoot trayvon martin because he had to. he shot him for the worst of all reasons. because he wanted to. >> trayvon martin armed himself

with the concrete sidewalk. and used it to smash george zimmerman's head. so when you're then talking with mr. crump, in this reported interview, for the first time ever being asked to tell the story about what you knew, you're in a hurry and among the things that you chose not to say was that before the phone cut off but after the bump you heard trayvon martin say get off, get off? >> yes, sir. >> the person who you now know to be trayvon martin was on top, correct? >> correct. >> he was raining down blows on george zimmerman, right? >> that's what it looked like. >> do you think there's anything wrong with him following him to see where he was going? >> legally speaking, no. >> you hope your son trayvon martin would not done anything to lead to his own death.

correct? >> what i hope for is that this would never have happened and he would still be here. >> i can't see him. i don't want to go out there. i don't know what's going on. >> they're sending them. >> do you know whose voice that was screaming in the background? >> yes, sir. >> whose voice was that? >> my son george. >> and who do you recognize that to be, ma'am? >> trayvon benjamin martin. >> georgy. >> my brother. >> trayvon's? >> yes. >> there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that is george zimmerman. >> after consulting with counsel, not to testify, your honor. >> if this person, this mannequin, were carrying a firearm on their waist, where would the gun be right now in relation to me? >> would be at your left inner thigh. >> were the injuries on mr. zimmerman's back of his head consistent with someone doing this? on cement. >> i don't think so. >> why does this defendant get

out of the car if he thinks that trayvon martin is a threat to him? why? because he's got a gun! equalizer. he's going to take care of it. he's a want to be cop. >> the person that decided that this is going to continue, said it was going to be violent was the guy that didn't go home when he had the chance to. i almost wish that the verdict had guilty, not guilty and completely innocent because i would ask you to check for that one. you have to check the not guilty. check the innocent then, too. >> trayvon martin may not have the defendant's blood on his hands but george zimmerman will forever have trayvon martin's on his. >> our legal panel is back. ted, to you, why has this case enflamed the passions of so many? we have so many cases in the country with white on black, black on white. this is not unusual regrettably.

a tragedy. this happens to be hispanic and black. and yet, this one has just -- i mean, this is fueled just a horrible, horrible -- i mean, gotten so many people enraged. >> greta, this has the chemistry of politics, the legal aspect, the law enforcement, the criminal justice system. if it wasn't for ben crump and daryl parks this would have been just another case that i believe had gone by the wayside and just another dead black kid and i think that they're the ones who asked the public to come out and be engaged in and to look in to this and necessary and justified. i don't know whether this man is guilty or innocent. but i do believe the family wanted one thing. justice for trayvon and justice would have been just what's happening in that courthouse in the back of us. a trial. >> jim, to you. we have people get targeted in this country. i mean, i have had clients where they have murdered people because they looked rich and it

was a bad armed robbery and people killed. think oar targeted because they look like they're successful. there are horrible scenarios yet this one has enflamed many people and it's a terrible tragedy but why this one? >> well, i think it says something, at the core of this is something troubling and factual about america and that is, i'm not saying zimmerman's a racist. if you're a young, black man in america walking the streets, you are perceived as suspicious by many americans. it's a horrible reality if you're a young, black man and plays in to the it's a horrible reality. and so this plays in to the worst fears of many especially in the african-american community and white folks, as well, like me. are you suspicious because of your race? >> it's not about what it's

about. the problem is black men in the society are over profiled, over charged, over searched, over sentenced, over prosecuted. all of this is absolutely true. there's horrible racial bias in the system and doesn't do much good to lower the bar to convict one white guy. >> people are morphed it in to a white on black thing. >> they certainly have. >> not that -- i mean, we still have a trial going on with someone who's dead. a young man dead and someone on trial and then morphed and set people on fire. >> we shouldn't look at a conviction. all we want is a fair trial and that's what i think is gotten back there and that's what all -- let me speak to blacks and whites in america. getting a fair trial. that's what mr. zimmerman deserves and what trayvon martin deserves. we don't need the riot and the crap in the street. >> hear, hear. stay with us. up next, a much-talked about

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deciding a verdict is exclusively your job. i cannot participate in that decision in any way. please disregard anything i may have said or done that made you think i preferred one verdict or another. >> so did judge deborah nelson appear to take sides? she was taking heat for testy exchanges with the charges from time to time. especially one defense lawyer. let's go first to you, bernie. fair judge? >> greta, let's back up to the beginning of the last segment. your producers put together what i thought was an excellent clip of this case from beginning to end and now to answer your question, yeah, she was favorable to the state. you saw her mixing it up with mr. west and his colleague there time and time again. however, no different than all

of us judges. they're there to super vise the battle and watch us. we're in the battle. i'm not saying judges don't work hard. ted knows federal judge on the bench. all of us do it. up at 4:00 in the morning. court until 5:00 and back to the office until 11:00. same thing the next day. greta, you did it, too. >> jim, your thought. i just want to say i was critical of this judge and questioned the defendant before the defense is over about whether or not he'd testify. she should do it at the conclusion. that was outside the hearing of the jury as a fact finder. it's important to note the criticism, did she do something in front of the jury or not? that was not in front of the jury. >> it wasn't. listen. the most important question at the end of the day is did zimmerman get a fair trial? i i think he did clearly. in terms of the judge, bernie's

done it. you should go right up to that line. throw punches for your client staying within the ethical realms. i have fought with judges and wagged my finger at a judge throwing out a murder conviction and later reinstated by the supreme court. this is a fight. this is combat basically within ethical rules and doesn't surprise me that people get cross sometimes. i think she is a pretty good judge. >> we only have 30 seconds. if there's a conviction, different judges are known for being long hitters in terms of heavy sentence. what in general is this judge's reputation? manslaughter, is she a heavy hitting judge, medium or low? >> i would say the reputation from medium to hard. there's going to be a very fair sentencing hearing and both sides bring out everything they can and make a decision but not a soft sentencer by any stretch of the imagination.

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>> greta: how much prison time could george zimmerman face? let's ask the legal panel.

i know you've answered this before, but in case we've forgoten it. >> life in florida is natural life meaning we do not have parole. >> greta: so automatic murder 2, gone for life? >> well,r minimum mandatory. best case you get 25 years, worst case, you get life which is natural life. manslaughter in low end of 12 years. high end is 30 because there is a firearm. so it's also serious so you've got serious scary stuff he's looking at. >> greta: lawyers on both sides, i mean they have a responsibility but being a defense lawyer knowing tonight your client could be going away, it's tough. >> i, i can tell you doing trials i don't eat, i don't sleep. i don't do anything but conten trait on the market very someone's life in my hand.

i was interested today he seemed to argue strongly against second degree murder. but he barely touch that had underline offense of manslaughter chi found interesting. >> greta: i don't blame him. jim i thought the prosecutor didn't do much arguing for murder in the second degree but rather focused on manslaughter. if he gets that, that is 30 years on the top. >> i think the prosecutor made a huge, smart decision. he said he killed this young man because he wanted to. that was a tough road. he didn't have evidence for that. he made the shift. going for manslaughter. i think there is a real chance, juries at the end of the day they want to do justice. i think there is a possibility the jury says well a young man without a gun this, guy had a gun. they want to find compromise.

i think the prosecution has some chance of saving the case. so smart to vote for that. >> bernie that is, i think the defense attorney most worried about that tonight. do you agree? >> you and i know, and jim on the other side we hate we're called lesser included offenses because it results in a compromise that. is why the jury ends up. jim is right, too. in talking to jurors after case that's won or lost four persons, four jurors say do you know what? we wanted to walk away saying we did the right thing but i'm telling when you a jury is out and you hear the phone ring, your heart just stops. >> in some communities they're used to a big wall not particularly chummy. chummy here? >> no. no. we consider these folks carpet baggers they're not our own. they kicked our own out of the

sand pile. we want to have our chumz here in this game to fight with us. they brought in out of towner wez don't like it at all. normally there is decent relationships in murder cases between prosecutors and defense lawyers in this case, no love lost. not good. >> greta: panel, thank you. >> thank you. >> happy birthday, mom. >> up next a look ahead to tomorrow, is tomorrow the big day for the verdict? our verdict watch continues live from stanford, florida. >> good night. thank you. so you can make a payment from your cell to almost anyone's phone or email. (speaking french) so you can express your gratitude... in the moment. chase quickpay. so you can.

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be sthour stay with fox news for the latest on the zimmerman trial. make sure you go to gretawir gretawire.com. we have a new question there for you. court is in session, new lock on gretawire, good night from florida. >> you are looking live at the courthouse in sanford, florida where the fate of george zimmerman is now in the hands of the jury. hi, everyone, i'm laura ingraham in for bill o'reilly and thanks for watching us tonight. we are officially on verdict watch in the george zimmerman murder trial. day one of deliberations has ended without a verdict. the six person all-female panel is deciding if george zimmerman is guilty of second degree murder, manslaughter, or not guilty of either charge in the death of trayvon martin. there is also a fourth possible outcome though, a hung jury. throughout the hour, the factor will bring you the most comprehensive and responsible coverage of every development in this case. but, first, a recap of the