be sthour stay with fox news for the latest on the zimmerman trial. make sure you go to gretawir gretawire.com. we have a new question there for you. court is in session, new l this is a fox news alert. the fate of george zimmerman is now in the hands of six female jurors. they have been deliberating around two and a half hours. just moments ago asked their first question of the judge regarding an inventory list of evidence. greta vansusteren is in sanford, florida and was in court for closing arguments. she joins us now. catch us up on what happened when the jurors came back. >> reporter: the jurors want -- they're so overwhelmed with evidence, sitting in a jury room, six of them, looking at each other, trying to figure out what to do, don't know what evidence they have. they asked for inventory. i don't know why the judge didn't do it or the lawyers didn't, but whatever, not a big

deal, it is rather routine. but they should have been -- the judges and lawyers should have done it beforehand, what's wrong with a list beforehand. sort of makes sense, doesn't it? >> we had sound from earlier today, defense closed and there was rebuttal, we have some sound, greta. if you could bear with us, i know you were there, listen to it one more time, then we'll come back to you. >> great. >> george zimmerman is not guilty if you have just a reasonable doubt that he acted in self defense. >> give me a shred of evidence that contradicts that he had any other option. that's cement. that's the sidewalk. and that is not an unarmed teenager with nothing but

skittles trying to get home. the suggestion from the state that that's not a weapon, that that can't hurt somebody, that that can't cause great bodily injury, is disgusting. i want you to really, really look at the instructions, apply them, and say he act in self defense, find him not guilty, let him go back, get back to his life. >> that was defense's closing argument. the prosecution had a chance to rebut. we have a bit of sound of that as well. >> there's only two people on this earth who know what really happened, and one of them can't testify. and the other one lied. trayvon martin may not have the defendant's blood on his hands, but george zimmerman will forever have trayvon martin's blood on his, forever. on behalf of the state of florida, i submit to you that

trayvon benjamin martin is entitled to the truth. and it didn't come from the defendant's mouth, it didn't. >> a dramatic wrapup. can you give us your overall thoughts how you think both of them ended up? >> reporter: i will do that, let me say, i don't know if you can hear in the background, behind me protesters have begun to assemble, they're chanting now. i tell you, dana, it feels uncomfortable. it is a small group, but you can tell things are rather uncomfortable here on the ground outside the courthouse. we have hoping there's going to be a lid on everything, i can hear the chanting loudly. they're cordoned off by the police in an area, but aren't far from the entrance. that's one thing. going to closing argument, what the defense was trying to do, talks about no shred of evidence, he is debating the prosecutor. defense had closing argument today. then the prosecution had rebuttal argument today. what was happening is defense

lawyer is trying to bait the prosecutor to come up with a shred of evidence to try to fill in the blanks that the defense said existed in the prosecution's case. as for the weapon on the cement, you do not have to have one injury to feel that you're in imminent danger of being killed, and that's one of the things they're trying to say, that a lot of talk about injuries and the fact that george zimmerman's head, whether it was big injuries or not big injuries, he was saying yes, george zimmerman had a gun, but cement can be a gun. that was rather dramatic effort in a rather -- i tell you one thing, not the most exciting closing argument, the cement was as exciting as it got from a dramatic point of view. the prosecution say the obvious, they had to build their case, their scar witness can't come into the courtroom and say what happened. their star witness is trayvon martin. naturally they're going to talk about his absence and about the fact that they have to piece

their case together with all sorts of what we call circumstantial evidence, not direct evidence, no eyewitness, no trayvon martin, they have to piece it together with little bits of evidence. overall today, i will say i thought closing arguments were rather long and lawyers better hope the jury was more interested in them. >> greta, very quickly, the fact that the jury came back and said we need clarity, need an evidence inventory list, you tell me if i am wrong, you take a vote, and if not unanimous, then you proceed? >> reporter: i covered cases with you, i can't tell you what goes on in the jury room. every jury has a different routine. i have been in cases they asked for a piece of evidence and the judge says no, you can't have the evidence, then lawyers sit in the hall for two days, wondering why they wanted that evidence. we find out they just wanted to ask for the first piece of

evidence, were going to ask for each one all along, they never asked for them all. the only thing we know is they wanted an inventory of the evidence and we gave it to them. that's all we know. it was nothing more. it is fun and exciting and important and, you know, deeply troubling with the trials, but you don't know. >> greta, this is bob. everybody was saying about a week ago the prosecution was dead and there's no way they were going to get zimmerman convicted, but the combination of getting manslaughter charge in, seems to me a good closing argument by the prosecution, yesterday in the close of their argument, rebuttal, do you think they're back in it now? >> reporter: look, i never can predict a jury verdict. i think the prosecution was dead strategically, there was bad

strategic moves, that's just my opinion. the jury may disagree completely. the prosecution has never been out of this. but the prosecution really got deeply back into the game when they got the judge to agree to a manslaughter charge, because what that allows, the biggest fear of defense lawyers, they would rather go for broke on murder two. the biggest fear is the jury says look, it isn't murder two, he didn't really have an evil mind to want to kill him, but the young man is dead, and you know, parents are nice people, it is so sad, they're worried there would be some compromise, even if there might not be factual basis to support the conviction fully in many people's eyes. evidence is in the eyes of the beholder, but i tell you one thing, when you give a jury from a defense perspective something to compromise on, it sends chills up the spine of the defense lawyer. that certainly puts the prosecution inch better footing. actually, it is interesting, bob, if you paid attention to the prosecution's argument yesterday, they made two

references to vile language used in a phone call by george zimmerman to suggest some sort of bad, ill will on the part of him. otherwise, they argued totally manslaughter. i think they were going for that yesterday, and it carries 30 years. that would be a victory for the prosecution. >> greta, why yesterday did they throw out a claim of child abuse and did that strike you as bizarre. the defense reaction to that was what? seems like it came out of left field. what did that tell you watching the case, was it desperation, was that their plan all along? >> reporter: i don't know. i thought that was so bizarre, but a member of the bar, diane tenis didn't think it was so bizarre. i was surprised the judge didn't dismiss it without hearing from the defense. in the jurisdictions i practiced law, you can't ambush someone. didn't seem like a lesser included offense. i was totally surprised by that. but diane, i defer to her judgment, she was not the least surprised by it.

it is probably something very common in the practice of law here. i never saw it like that. i think the real reason is they used the word child abuse. that's what caught everybody off guard. if it was just murder in the third degree or something, it would not have seemed so unusual. >> greta, this is greg gutfeld, well known kmcome enat a timer. isn't the irony that it helps zimmerman? if you perceive yourself as weaker, then you are more threatened, that could help your defense, correct? >> reporter: i thought the most powerful thing the defense did in closing argument is that the defense lawyer said we are going to have four minutes of silence, common technique they use in the courtroom to exaggerate time. the four minutes is important.

that was between the time according to the defense that trayvon martin's on the phone call with his friend, talking about it, she says you better run, i don't know what he says, he is going to run, something to that effect, i don't know exactly what it was, four minutes goes by. at that point, if he had run home in fear, he would have been home in probably 30 seconds or a minute at most, i have been out there. instead it was four minutes. what the defense is trying to suggest is that instead of really being in fear, that trayvon martin hung around, hung around in the shadows, ready to jump and be the aggressor. i thought that was a strong point for the defense. of course, you know, look, you're asking me sort of a seventh juror, the jurors have been sitting in the courtroom. they see a completely different trial than all of us sitting in the courtroom. everybody watching it on tv. so it is like i am sort of cautious now, to point out this is what i think, this is what i saw, but i don't get a vote in this. >> greta, there have been some

strong feelings about the judge and whether or not she was being as impartial as she might have been with the defense team. any reaction in the courtroom about that? >> look, judges and lawyers always fight. there are some really obnoxious lawyers and some really obnoxious judges. i took her to task when she did something i thought was dead wrong, and the defense case was not over, she starts grilling the defendant. instead of going to the lawyer, grilling the defendant whether or not he is going to testify or not, they haven't even rested. that's one of the most important decisions a defendant and lawyer make in the course of a trial. i thought she was way out of line, i thought she was nasty. it was completely to me, thought it was horrible that she did that. however, that was one day, it was not in front of the jury at all, and it didn't really reflect on the fairness of the trial, and in fact, if he does get convicted, it is not going to be appealable error.

it just showed she was i think out of line in one exchange in the courtroom. there are other times when she was -- when the court of appeals look at the case, they don't look at whether they liked each other, they look at whether the defendant got a fair trial. she has done nothing i can see from dealing with the lawyers and parties that would reverse conviction on appeal, there may be other rulings but not on her dealings with them. >> there are groups gathering behind your left shoulder. can you give a sense who they are, what they're protesting, what's their motives? disturbin. the crowd is relatively small, gotten bigger. in the beginning, it was about five protesters and 30 media. it is growing a bit. it is mixed african-american and white american. the people are yelling justice,

sometimes signs justice for trayvon martin, deeply disturbing to me. it is not about taking sides, it is about both sides picking a jury, agreeing on a jury, presenting the evidence, having the judge then decide it. protests like this are about picking sides. i have no idea how the verdict is going to come down. when you have people outside saying justice now, justice now, they weren't in the courtroom, they aren't the jurors, i am not the jurors. this has the potential for being a problem. you know, this is an issue here, even a security issue. it may completely blow over, but we're monitoring it, both for our own safety and because we're covering the story. >> greta, do you think the jurors can hear any of the protesters or maybe the helicopter, news helicopters outside? >> doubt. . it is a pretty filled courthouse. they have to know it is a big

case, most trials, courtrooms are empty. the fact that they're sequestered, they may suspect it, they're in a hotel, in a boarded off area from everyone else. they know something's going on. one thing, whether or not they saw some of the protests a year ago in february, march of 2012, that may be fixated in their minds, but i don't think they can hear or see this. >> greta, can i bring up maybe my worst nightmare or greg gutfeld's worst nightmare, a hung jury? >> reporter: i thought your nightmare was being on a show with greg gutfeld. >> no, no, if it is a hung jury and we have to cover this trial again, i don't know if i could survive another couple weeks with greg gutfeld on this show. >> reporter: well, i do understand that completely. i got that, and that's a real concern, a legitimate concern. you know, the chances of being a hung jury, remember, there are only six jurors. if you're just a numbers person,

12 jurors, greater chance one will hang it. there are only six. maybe not. retrial, if you think it is bad for you to be with gutfeld, imagine the lawyers having to retry this because there's nothing worse than a retrial for a lawyer. >> greta, what did you think about instructions to the jury from the judge? did you think it was a fair and balanced presentation? >> yeah, just reading the jurors -- telling the jurors what their responsibility is, telling the jury what the law is, there was no sort of editorializing by the judge. i will tell you one thing, most cases are reversed on bad instructions, jury instructions or not most, but at least it used to be, i don't know if it still is, jury instructions are really important in convictions in terms of being reviewed on appeal. but i just looked at them, they looked to be the standard florida jury instructions. if you stick to the script, stick to the law, don't do editorializing or adding, the

instructions have already been ruled on by florida supreme court and good to go. i wouldn't expect a problem with jury instructions. it is when they get sort of the special ones, that's when there's a problem. >> greta, can you compare the media attention with this trial to say gosnell. >> reporter: well, i think kimberly guilfoyle was the only one that covered gosnell, wasn't she? >> talking about media attention. >> reporter: no, no, you know, i don't know -- i know there's a lot of complaints the media didn't cover gosnell, there's a whole lot of that. same criticism, why do you cover this trial and not another. every day there are criminal trials with the same level of fascination. one network gets involved and we pick it up. there's no shortage of horrible things that go on in the nation that we hear about in courtrooms.

so i don't know, gosnell was one that just -- the media didn't pick up, i am not sure why. one of the issues is what else is going on at the time. was there a bigger story at the time which reverted attention. >> the boston bombing happened then. it kind of diverted attention. greta, the animation of the crime by the defense, wasn't allowed in the regular testimony but it was allowed in closing arguments. number one, shocking, dramatic, did you see it, what are your thoughts? >> reporter: if i were the judge, i wouldn't have let that in for the defense. that was a complete nightmare for the prosecution. i am a defense attorney. the defense wanted it in their case, present it as evidence. it was used to illustrate a point. they can't tell the difference between illustrating a point, but the interesting thing, had it been introduced in evidence, at least the prosecutor could have cross-examined the person that did the animation to find defects or something imprecise. that was the worst ruling for the prosecution that the judge

said, you know, first the defense was disappointed they didn't get to use it in their case in chief, in their evidence. then the judge says they can use it in closing argument, which means the defense gets to present the evidence, although it is just to illustrate a point, not as evidence, and the prosecution doesn't get to challenge it. bingo for the defense. it was a bad call for the prosecution. if i had been the judge, i wouldn't have done it. >> greta, you're going to stay with us, which we're grateful for. right now, we're taking a quick break. directly ahead, we're going to talk about the fact that geraldo thinks race had to do with this. right back. ♪

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herald oh says race politics forced florida to try it. blames activists like al sharpton for starting this in the first place. >> this is political pressure. race politics, i hold reverend al sharpton in higher regard than many of my colleagues, i won't speak for any of you presently, i think i do, but i strongly believe the reverend al is the catalyst behind the murder charge six weeks after the incident. here is what he said in march of 2012. >> we are tired of going to jail for nothing and others going home for something. zimmerman should have been arrested that night. don't talk to us like we're stupid, don't talk to us like we're ignorant, we love our

children like you love yours. lock him up! >> greg, you're buddies with sharpton. >> we go way back. how this guy is allowed to be taken seriously after two major incidents, one that led to somebody's death, another that ruined so many lives, at that wan a bral ee hoax, claimed she was raped by five men which he helped propagate, what did he do, he continued his career as race baiter, then you have the riots, death of rosenbaum, because of sheer anti-semitism, and he is now out here doing this. the things he is saying might be legitimate. there should be anger. but he's not the person to express it. now we have unrest that is trumping arrest, justice is being influenced by fear, and he is one of the primary

instigators. if there's death because of riots, he is part of the blame. >> first of all, i don't go to the case, not only that, he ruined the career of that prosecutor. i have known sharpton a long time, i guess i would consider him a friend of mine. that said, i don't think al sharpton single-handedly pushed this into trial. i don't buy it. >> on the one hand, you said leaders in the black community should be putting a calming tone on this, not inciting violence. >> this was a year -- >> how long ago -- he has been on msnbc since then, hasn't he? >> i think he should try to walk it back if he can. >> can't do it on msnbc, nobody is watching it. >> he doesn't want to walk it back. this keeps him relevant. hitting the rewind button keeps al sharpton relevant, that's what he wants, even though it is

completely unproductive. roger simon who runs projection media called it racial nostalgia. long for the time of civil rights era, they continue to fight battles that hurt all of us. bill lee, chief of police, said he didn't have suspicion to arrest him that night. should it have gone to trial, maybe, not in this way, not in the court of public opinion. not just sharpton, it is president obama, speaking up, saying if he had a son it would look like trayvon, so everyone watching pictures the president's son murdered. it is stuff like that, rhetoric like that that is not helpful to uniting this country. >> well, i am going to try to take the other side because i am going to give it a shot. it had been six weeks. there had been no arrest made. we did have a 17-year-old kid was killed, and whether or not that was manslaughter or second degree murder or in self

defense, i think that's why there needed to be a trial, and if not al sharpton, who else? up to then nobody has. >> that's the sad part, what you said is correct, but there have to be better leaders. for hundreds of years whites had charletons as leaders, incredibly corrupt leaders, you know, now we're in this modern period where blacks have their leaders. they're entitled to have bad leaders, too, is what i am saying. but let's get better ones. >> greta, you're there, seeing the people. you've seen the groups get bigger and bigger, hearing these words on tv. are you concerned about people listening to an al sharpton? >> reporter: well, yeah, sure. anybody that's out there, if you're throwing fuel on the fire, but look, this is a great opportunity for reverend al sharpton right now to merge and try to put everything at rest. instead of looking back and like picking at old scabs, this would

be a good time. we don't have a jury verdict, don't know which way it will go. wouldn't it be great if leaders would do the right thing. justice is when you have facts in a courtroom decided by a jury, a jury both sides agree to. this is a perfect time for someone to emerge. we don't need trouble, we need leadership. i will add one other thing that bothers me about president obama, who is a lawyer, let's back up to that little spot in cambridge, early on, when he said the cops act -- he said i don't know much about the facts, but the cops acted stupidly. i expect more lawyers. al sharpton is not a lawyer, but he is a leader. i expect more of him. i want him to emerge here as whatever the verdict is to do the right thing and we have to stop picking at old scabs and trying to cause trouble. >> greta, does it bother you that president obama said he wouldn't way in on the gosnell trial but will weigh in on

certain things, he'll cherry pick issues he feels are beneficial? >> reporter: i lived in washington way too long to be disturbed by things like that, i say sort of jokingly. i would hope if the president had a chance to think about it would like a do over. the president shouldn't be weighing in on these trials. maybe there's some that he should, but one that is likely to cause so much pain, we don't know the facts. not one of us was out there. not one of us. that's the reason we have the courtroom. we piece it together by little bits and pieces, from statements of the defendant, challenge in video tapes, whether it is forensic evidence, we have a system to try to resolve it, rather than the microphone. the microphone is not where you're supposed to seek justice. we don't know what happened that night, but we have all agreed, these six people will decide it for us. lawyers in the courtroom agreed, the prosecutor did. so maybe we ought to let that happen, after that happens, we accept it whether we like it or not.

>> greta, we have to go for this block. greta, we're going to come back to you for more in a few minutes. first, get this. a new bieber alert. he just apologized to bill clinton after his f bomb ranting at the former president and more. but the real story is who he didn't apologize to. gutfeld has that when "the five" returns. don't go away. >> breaking news! ♪

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breaking news, people. bieber has apologized to bubba. this actor post add video of him relieving himself in a restaurant mop bucket, claiming the f word at a picture of hillary's husband. remember this mess? >> [bleep]. >> wild kidz. he tweeted thanks for taking the time to talk, mr. president, your words meant a lot. thursday, bill clinton confirmed a talk, the president said something on the lines of if that's the worst thing you've ever done, all is well. so true. clinton told him to keep an eye on his friends, referring to those that leaked the tape of the leaking, which is what you would expect from bill, instead

of saying respect those that aren't as lucky as you are, people that mop floors and clean kitchens for a living. instead, he warns jb to pick his friends more carefully so he doesn't get caught. i guess bill would know. if only he hadn't hooked up with people that kiss and tell, in 1998, we wouldn't have had this great moment. >> i did not have sexual relations with that woman. i had that line, had the word backwards. >> bieber spelled a lot as one word. did you notice that in his tweet? >> that's probably to save his face. >> no, it wasn't. >> crazy lady.

>> didn't need to do hash tag great guy. >> i was expecting more. >> really, after that scene? >> it did bother me he would call the president but not work to find the restaurant and give that guy 50 grand and say i am so sorry, i am embarrassed, wish i never would have done that to you. >> i shouldn't have peed in your bucket. how many times have you said that. bucket was a nickname, by the way. >> what? >> i don't know. advice from clinton. >> what was it again? >> pick better friends. >> pick your friends, they may stink. >> why would the president call bieber back. >> after you get defiled. >> defiled on global television. >> also one word. >> bob, you were disgusted by this story. >> let me say, i really can't comment on it. been there, done that. just very quickly, want to say

to the poster yesterday for the run for mayor, want to thank david denny and his wife teresa that put that together for you. as far as pissing in buckets, well, i been there, that's all i can say. >> better than piss in the wind. >> that's right. i think i should not comment on this. >> andrea, bieber's mom, very nice lady, says her son is getting a bad rap. what can bieber do to save himself becoming the next elvis? >> she is right, but of all people he calls, bill clinton? and bill clinton said if this is the worst thing you've done, he keeps it relative, when you call someone like bill clinton. yeah, what's he going to tell him, keep your pants zipped up? i am embarrassed by this, i am embarrassed by the whole situation, embarrassed for justin beiber, because he called a president and the president took the phone call. the whole thing has me very

embarrassed. >> if somebody wants to apologize, i think you should give them a chance. >> isn't that sweet. >> i want to apologize for president obama for something. do you think he'll take my call? >> if you have jay z's number -- >> jay carney would call back. >> all right. we have to go. protesters are starting to gather in florida outside the zimmerman trial. greta is there, she will give us a live report. back in a moment. ♪

♪ welcome back. greta is back with us from sanford, florida, and has a unique vantage point outside the courtroom where protesters started to gather. earlier we discussed introduction of race by some external forces, pushing the case against zimmerman. greta, dana has a couple questions about the charges and about the protesters that are behind you. >> so greta, you probably learned this in your first week of law school, but i'm going to go ahead and ask a question i think i need more clarification on. the difference between second degree murder and manslaughter, and for people that are behind you gathering, say that they're looking for a verdict against zimmerman, would

manslaughter satisfy what they're demanding? >> reporter: let me first get to the question of manslaughter versus murder two. it is a good question. every state defines it a bit differently. i'll tell you what florida does. manslaughter is not accidental killing, it is intentional killing for which you have no justification, you kill someone and don't have a defense of self defense, that would be manslaughter. what murder in the second degree, manslaughter spiked, spiked with something else, ill will, meaning you did it because you're a racist and someone is black, it is like manslaughter spiked. it carries a tougher penalty because we think it is worse. they're both intentional killings, but one is worse because of ill will. so that's the difference in florida. now, as to whether or not would anyone be satisfied with manslaughter, a lot of people aren't going to be satisfied with anything. trials are heartaches for everybody.

no matter what the verdict is, even if it is a guilty verdict for zimmerman on second degree, the trayvon martin family still don't have trayvon martin in their lives. even if it is an acquittal on everything for the zimmerman family, he is going to forever be marked. this is not a happy situation for anybody. as for the protesters, let me give you a side note, this is special for you, bob, one of the things i heard a second ago, bob, hell no, we won't go. i don't know where that cheer came from, but i wanted to make sure i told you about that one, bob. >> thank you. >> reporter: protesters have first amendment rights to be here, and we want to hear from them as long as they're not violent or anything. sometimes protesters, you know, are fueled a little more by passion than by facts. and they may not be happy with a manslaughter if you wanted conviction of murder two, but

manslaughter carries up to 30 years in prison. for a 29-year-old man, that's a substantial time. i don't think anyone will be happy. those that are mal contents probably won't be happy. there's nothing for anyone to be happy about. that's the problem. >> greta, only 30 seconds on this, we have a hard break. was the long defense closing argument, does that effect the jury in any way, does that hurt them giving the jury fatigue maybe with a long defense? >> reporter: you mean the closing argument too long? >> yes. >> reporter: well, i tell you, it is freezing cold in there, it is freezing cold. i think they go in the jury room, look at the facts. i think closing arguments fade in their memory, but you don't want to bore the jury and freeze them to death, but that's what happens. these aren't dramas of broadway plays, you try to keep

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welcome back. greta is still with us in florida. the jury is deliberating the fate of george zimmerman. we spoke briefly of protesters. this comes on the heels of calling for calm. gr greta, you said it feels like --

what was the word you used, it felt bad there. >> reporter: uncomfortable. it feels uncomfortable, yeah. >> does it feel that way now? does it seem like it's building? >> reporter: it does, but just because, i mean, look, it is so fueled by passion, they're talking about justice and they haven't even sat in the courtroom to know what the justice is, you know, it just feels uncomfortable, bob, i don't like it. it is like i am apprehensive, i am not worried, but i am paying attention to it. and these people are upset, so any time you're around upset people, it is uncomfortable. >> less of a question, more of a comment, doesn't when the sheriff comes on tv and says remain calm, doesn't that put the thought in people's mind who may have had every intention of being calm hey, maybe i shouldn't be calm, after all? >> reporter: well, i suspect probably what the sheriff is doing is sending a message they have security down here and they're prepared for it, they know if you're going to get out

of line. if people want to break that, the sheriff's department will do their best. right now, everything is fine, it is totally fine, it is my personal thing, i feel a little uncomfortable, but i am not worried, but the sheriff sent out the message that they have things under control. i think that's a good signal. >> greg feels uncomfortable, too, about the whole trial, don't you, greg. >> what bothers me, we seem to treat riots like the weather, now we can predict them, 70% chance of looting with a light coat of bloodshed. by talking about them, we make it okay. >> reporter: greg, there's a difference between looting, rioting and first amendment free speech. >> right. >> reporter: and we have to be careful, we don't like the rioting and looting, don't step on first amendment speech if we don't like it. all of us have to use good judgment on this. >> i am wary of the opportunity for other things happening when people take advantage of it. >> we have a short question.

>> quickly, greta, sorry, what is sanford, florida like, i was wondering about that today. what are the demographics like, big town, small town? >> reporter: i can tell you we get a good beef dinner not far from here, and the courthouse room is freezing cold. the hotel has been pretty nice. get in there about 11:30 at night, locked in a perimeter, and fox crews having fun and see friends from other networks. that's what i know about sanford. >> special thanks to greta joining us. catch on the record tonight live ♪ [ villain ] well mr. baldwin... it appears our journey has come to a delightful end. then i better use the capital one purchase eraser to redeem my venture miles for this trip. purchase eraser? it's the easy way to erase any recent travel expense. i just pick a charge, like my flight with a few taps, it's taken care of. impressive baldwin. does it work for hotels? absolutely thank goodness. mrs. villain and i are planning our...

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♪ that's not our new one more thing music. we only have a couple minutes. welcome back. eric, final thoughts on the trial. the jury is working over the weekend. we could get a verdict. >> they said they can work through the night until they get tired, then pick it up again. hope it is over quick, hope people keep the peace. >> bob, any thoughts? >> i think these people probably want to work through the night, they want to get out of here, they have been sequestered, how long it has been going on. i still believe as i have all along, zimmerman deserves something here, i am like a lot of people, i think he is going to get a manslaughter charge or conviction. >> i think that's probably

right. greg, you are deeply engrossed in the new york post? >> i am thinking of silence, cheap trick playing saturday, august 24th. >> love them. >> i love cheap trick. one of the greatest rock bands ever at the theater at west bury. i am going to see them. >> we will all go. >> ac/dc, dude. >> get back at zimmerman. >> enough zimmerman. >> i don't know if i have been spending enough time watching the trial or too much time with you, bob, but i'm starting to see something in the judge. doesn't the judge look like bob a little bit? >> come on. >> that's a cheap trick there. are you kidding me? >> you wear glasses. >> i don't know who would go out with that. anyway, i am going to keep away from that. she's ugly! >> bob!

>> bob, that's not fair to say. >> i apologize. she's a nice lady. >> we're going to get out of here. >> thank you to greta, thank you for joining us, that was very . >> welcome to "red eye." it's like that incredible, if you mean contagious, because it's the third time it appeared this year and in different places. let's go to tv's andy levy for a pre-game report. >> did elliott spitzer cry on tuesday's "morning joe". well he was on "morning joe." what do they have in common? find out in a new segment called, i'm sorry if you were offended. and the call for an establishment of a national park on the moon. more like a sound stage in