♪ ♪ >> trayvon martin decided to stalk, plan, counted -- i don't know. all i know is when george zimmerman was walking back to his car, out of darkness, be it bushes or darkness or what, behind or somewhere, trayvon martin came toward george zimmerman. trayvon martin may not have the defendant's blood on

his hands but george zimmerman will forever have trayvon martin's blood on his. >> heather: dramatic moments during final arguments as both sides leave the jury with plenty to think about as they deliberate george zimmerman's fate. and theatrics. jury watched as mark o'mara dragged a huge chunk of increment and prosecutors wrestled a dummy. how much do visual aids like these help? let's bring in mary ellen o'toole. i want to ask you about the importance of closing arguments in and of themselves. >> the closing arguments are very important but they are not evidence. what i heard and what i think is important is that, there are multiple motives

in any violent crime. these motives can change over time. the intent and emotion are not the same so someone can say harsh words but the emotions they are feeling may be very different. to me that becomes very speculative and that really was an issue in both closing arguments. >> heather: what should the ultimate goal of the closing argument be towards those jurors? >> i think what you want the jurors to be able to do is as little as speculation as possible. it really does become the forensic evidence, the circumstantial evidence and then the behavioral evidence. if people are left to do too much speculation on their own or pull in their basic knowledge which unfortunately comes from the fact we have tv programs, they will be left trying to fill in those

holes. that becomes an issue for every criminal trial. for me that was a concern here. >> heather: we saw the cutouts of george zimmerman and trayvon martin differentiating between the heights, we saw the piece of concrete. none of that was actual evidence in the trial, but the jurors see it and it's in their minds as they go into their deliberations? >> they do see it and they hear it but what is important every human being is very different. you have some people on the jury who are more visible. you have some who are more auditory. not knowing what the background of these jurors, they can interpret that differently. there may be some, enough already, the man on the floor with a did you mean any. it's lept left up the individual interpretation of the juror but we have to be careful when we are dealing with the general public, foundation of finishing and how they may

interpreting it, i am a little bit too over the top. >> in. >> which goes back to knowing the jurors are and knowing their background when they were chosen. who do you think in your opinion has done a better job so far in terms of closing arguments and in terms of the evidence as we await jury deliberations? >> i thought that the evidence, stronger evidence which for me is the forensic evidence was presented by the defense. i look at only the levels of evidence, forensic, circumstantial and behavioral. some of the evidence like eyewitness and ear witnessed, completely unreliable testimony. so i thought overall in my opinion it was best presented by the defense. >> heather: unreliable, in so much as it hurt their cases? >> it certainly can. eyewitness and ear witnessed is notoriously

unreliable. when people of witnessing a violent crime it's very upsetting. it can impact people very differently. some people see things that really didn't occur. other people fill in the homes. that interpretation affects what they saw and what they think they saw or heard or what they think they heard. so that is why the focus in today's 2013 trials needs to month to more on the forensic evidence, the cold, hard, laboratory evidence. these other types of evidence are notoriously not reliable. >> heather: mary ellen, we appreciate your insight as we awaited to hear what the jury's decision is. >> gregg: a look at other high profile murder trials. jury deliberations in the cases of casey anthony, o.j. simpson and scott peterson lasted from just hours to a full week. do these tell us anything what is happening inside

the zimmerman jury room? will carl? >> when it comes to the deliberations, short, long, does it really matter. do they have an impact? when you look at some of those recent case, take jodi arias, that trial lasted for five months and in the end, the jury took 16 and a half hours to convict her of killing travis alexander. it took nine hours to convicted conrad murray for michael jackson's death. murray was jackson's personal doctor. in another case, jury took a fuel week and seven days to convict scott peterson of murdering his wife. one thing was clear when it came to all those juries and in fact the jury in the zimmerman case, that nothing is clear at all. anything can happen. >> anybody tells you they know how this jury is thinking or what they are

doing is making it up. there is no way to tell. just because they are sequestered doesn't mean they are going to come back fast. >> one jury that did come back fast was o.j. simpson's trial, took about four hours. they came back with a not guilty verdict which goes to show which you never know. >> gregg: those are important words. will, thanks very much. >> heather: preparations underway as we await the verdict in the zimmerman trial. emotions are running high. we will take a look at what law enforcement is doing to make sure that everything remains calm. >> if it was trayvon martin who had shot and killed george zimmerman, what would your verdict be? that is how would you know.

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what do you anticipate what is going to happen after this verdict comes in? >> one thing i do know law enforcement will be prepared. they have contingency plans for everything. then -- i really believe that the general public, law abiding people have made a decision sometime ago whether or not zimmerman was victim or trayvon martin was the victim. a majority of those people haven't really watched the trial and know the facts. you are not going to change their minds. we have to make sure they don't get caught up in the hype by the instigateders, ones trying to create havoc for a personal gain whether it is stealing or creating havoc. >> heather: i want to ask you about the preparations and what will happen once a verdict does come in in terms of what law enforcement will do. they appear to have tried maybe get ahead of this a little bit.

you heard the police chief there speaking. we also have the brother ward county sheriff's office and they produced tsa, raise your voice. they talk about remind people freedom of expression is a constitutional right but taking unlawful action is not. do these types of steps assist after the fact when or if violence were to occur? does this maybe make people to second degrees any action they would take or does this, in fact, put it into their mind to begin with if they weren't thinking about doing something? >> i think it's more in the positive. the sheriff scott israel put this together in brother ward county. it remind the general public, there are people that will try to draft them into creating havoc in the community. warning them, use common sense and stay out of it. you are entitled to your

opinion and entitled to protest as long as it is donely. it's always a small majority that creates the problem for the community. >> heather: then the rest gets swept in with the hype. what steps will law enforcement take once the verdict is announced? >> right now, they are on call. all leaves have been cancelled. they when the verdict comes out, they will go on a shift which is 12 hours on and 12 hours off. they have set up command posts. they have assisted put in place for mass arrests if it is necessary. incarceration and they have the field force already prepared. so everything is prepared god forbid there is civil unrest. i think the chiefs of police did a pro-active in

doing these public service announcements and the units going out and interacting with members of gangs and trying to obtain information, think that is all very pro-active on law enforcement and got to be effective. >> heather: we appreciate your insight. let's hope that any protests or opinions people have they voice it peacefully. thank you. >> thank you. >> gregg: as we await a verdict in the george zimmerman murder trial. we'll take a closer look at the six women jurors deciding his fate, their backgrounds and why both the state and defense wanted an all female panel. >> almost wish, i never said this in a criminal trial, i almost wished that the verdict has guilty, not guilty and completely innocent because i would ask you to check that one

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joining me to talk about is susan constantine. susan, a lot of people have speculated about gender in this case. does it matter? do these women all six of them, bring certain life experiences that would be different than men? >> there are, not for the defense. i was really shocked that the defense had not really struck some women and got more men. absolutely, they bring life experiences, here are six women. five of them have kids.

you can't tell me that some of their emotional connection with their children are not going to be taken into deliberation. so i think the fact, yeah, there are five women. >> gregg: you think that helps in the prosecution even though the defense with a jury consultant was okay with six women. two of the women are connected to lawyers. one has a son as a lawyer. another has a husband who is a lawyer. my mom had both. i always lot she learned a lot about the law because of it, it affected the way she approached things. what about that in this case? >> well, one of them i think it's more analytical but the other one isn't. and the other one caretaker, she has 16 pets. that is what she does for her friend. even listening to her during voir dire but she was tend to go be sympathetic. you are right. if they were analytical.

>> gregg: i want to talk to you about the lawyers and their closing arguments. i want to play a clip, it's always a great advantage for prosecutors when they get the last word. john for the prosecution delivered what great many people regard as a dramatic, if not, overly dramatic, that's who dunnif. but a dramatic powerful closing argument. take a listen. >> to the living, we owe respect. but to the dead, we owe the tru truth. what do we owe trayvon martin? 16 years and 21 days forever. he was a son.

he was a brother. he was a friend and the last thing he did on this earth was try to get home. >> you know, susan, some people >> you know,as very, very eople moving and powerful and others kind of said, eh, it was over the top. he kind of employed a bunch of hacknied maxims and trite quotation, including thomas jefferson. your thoughts? >> reporter: okay. first of all, let's look to the jury, there is kinesthetic and auditory and the fact that they're women and the impact of his hand gestures, his pausing, his silent moments and i tell you what, his good looks certainly don't hurt. you know, he was very impactful. >> wait a minute. wait a minute, susan, you are telling me, a, women are more emotional than men and you are telling me that they'll be

influenced by his good looks? >> reporter: sorry. but, yes. i mean, really. >> which wife right now would be very, very upset to hear that sort of thing. >> reporter: sorry. >> i want to play some video and you saw this because you were inside the courtroom. mark o'mara, the defense attorney, he employed all kind of visual aids and good lawyers do that and here he is carrying right in front of the jury box a huge and heavy block of cement and he said, don't be fooled, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, skittles wasn't the weapon that trayvon martin was trying to harm or kill my client with. no. it was concrete and it can be a deadly weapon. what do you think about that visual aid? >> reporter: wolf. 61% of all jurors are visual. the more visual aids and visual impact is going to lead a visual

imprint into their minds during deliberations. very impactful. i thought he did an excellent job. >> susan constantine. i appreciate it very much. you were inside the courtroom for much of this trial and some of the closing arguments. i appreciate your insights. >> thank you. . >> i wonder if she believes a man juror would be swayed by an attractive female attorney? >> you know, i bet -- >> equally. >> i should have asked that question. >> i would be interested the to know. >> okay. i should have thought of that. >> well, stay with fox news as we try to keep a close eye on the jurors deliberating the fate of george zimmerman. >> judge janine piro at the courthouse. wish i saw mine more often, but they live so far away. i've been thinking about moving in with my daughter and her family. it's been pretty tough since jack passed away. it's a good thing you had life insurance through the colonial penn program.

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. >> this is a fox news alert. we are live in sanford, florida. waiting for the verdict in the murder trial of george zimmerman. we are now outside the seminole county criminal justice center where the six women who make up the jury in the george zimmerman trial continue to deliberate. they are now in their 10th hour of the verdict t. jury could come down at any moment. when it does, we'll take you right to the