irrationality. again, thank you for watching the factor tonight. i am bill o'reilly. please always remember that the spin stops right here. we're definitely looking out for you. state of florida versus george zimmerman. >> we find mr. zimmerman, not guilty. >> the world has found it beyond a reasonable doubt, there were plenty of reasonable doubts. >> justice for trial. >> i think the prosecution of george zimmerman is disgrateful. >> we are very, very, very saddened. we accept the jury's verdict. >> george zimmerman was never

guilty of anything except protecting himself in self-defense. >> i think all america has to dig deep in their heart to try to find out how we as a society can learn from this. >> no justice. >> no justice. >> i believe there is a racial wound to be healed. i worry about the aftermath. >> we have seen events of journeys not yet complete and our work is far from over. >> i'm thrilled that this jury kept this tragedy from becoming a travesty. >> i can tell you this is long from being over and we're going to be with them every step of the way. welcome to han knit a nity. the verdict was handed down in the george zimmerman trial. we'll be coming to you live with complete coverage of this controversial conclusion to one of the most talked about legal cases in recent history. here to kick things off i'm joined right here in our new

york studios, by two members of the defense team. mark o'mara and don west. congratulations to you. >> any knock knock jokes? >> not tonight. >> i'm just kidding. i know you've probably got a lot. are you surprised how big this all got? >> i am. actually, i thought it was big to begin with. i thought it was going to slow down, particularly cht evidence started coming out. you first and then me second said, look, guys, let's just wait. sit back. you don't know the evidence yet because i don't know it yet. let's wait until we have all the evidence. i thought that would tend to throw a tithe on your back. it never did. part of the way was how the prosecutors were hiding the evidence and kept it at a fever pitch. >> i agree. don. what do you think won the case for you. >> the evidence. >> what are the big factors? i think three things really came into play for me, the law, the

iwitness and i would say even though they weren't necessary, the injuries. >> you mean what was the most important evidence in the case? >> yes. >> the eye witness of course whose testimony completely corroborated what george zimmerman said and also matched the ballistics, matched the medical examiner's testimony, not dr. bao's, but rather dr. vincent did i memayo. it all matched up. >> you did a good job in pointing out to the jury, this is not the same as everyday life. for those that maybe didn't hear it, explain that. >> the frustration that i have with jurors is they default to what we all do. they default to make a decision every moment of every day because you have to. that's a quick decision-making process. the criminal standard is so much higher than that. beyond a reasonable doubt standard we never use in our daily life. even getting married, moving, getting a job is compromising back and forth. the decision to convict somebody has to be beyond whatever you're used to.

my fear as i said to the jury is that they would start defaulting back to their normal decision-making processes. that hurts a criminal defendant. >> let me go to the justification of use of force. these were the jury instructions because i think this was very key in making their decision and it says an issue is whether or not george zimmerman acted in self-defense. it is a defense to a crime of second degree murder or the lesser included offense of manslaughter if the death of trayvon martin resulted from the justifiable use of deadly force, deadly force means the force likely to cues death or reasonable bodily harm. a person is justified in using deadly force if he reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent harm. if george zimmerman was not engaged in unlawful activity. meet force with force including deadly force if he reasonably believed that it was necessary

to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or another or to commit the commission of a forcible felon any. explain that to our audience because that's the law. >> here are the most critical words, if you reasonably believe that you're about to suffer great bodily injury, you can react with deadly force. we all have that right. stand your ground laws -- george suffered for 45 minutes. he was getting battered because he had injuries. he was reacting because he had to like dennis root said, he had no other alternativalternative. he had no other choice. >> let's go over the irregularities in the case. don, for example, the

withholding of evidence which your partner mentioned. explain that. >> a moment ago i said what's the most important thing, evidence as opposed to an appeal to emotion. let's look at the real evidence and it was like pulling teeth to get the real evidence, the exculpatory evidence. the evidence that is the foundation of the way the criminal justice system is supposed to work says the defendant is entitled to all exculpatory evidence and we fought month after month after month just to get what should have been given without the hundreds of hours that this took. that's the way this started and unfortunately it continued until the very day the trial started. >> what do you think angela cory firing the i.t. person that exposed this? >> i think that certainly the way she handles her business, i think that's shown in the way she handled the trial and the ways i guess she trains prosecutors to fail to give over

discovery like don talked about. i think that's just in her stripes, but i think it's despicable when somebody comes to the forefront and exposes an unethical behavior, that they get fired even though they have a four-month old child. >> special prosecutor, no grand jury. >> they don't have to empanel a grand jury. realizing you already have a grand jury in place, why should you come in from out of the area, county, come down here and make a decision after praying with the family and not let 18 citizens of seminole county make the decision they were ready to make. >> what about evidence you wanted to use but were not allowed to use? what is that evidence? >> we looked at this case and how aggressive we would get with our defense based on how the prosecution was handling its case and what we wanted to do was be there, one, to make a decision. that's why we fought so hard to get in the toxicology results. we should have had that. then we make a tactical decision

whether or not it comes in. we decided not to because it wasn't that significant. we definitely should have had that same right to look at trayvon martin's cell phone and say this is a guy who knows how to fight because he talked about getting it mounted and have that in a position we couldn't do anything. from somebody who knows, he didn't want to fight. the judge should let us use that information. >> it seemed crucial to me. >> it was. turns out we didn't need it but we should have had the opportunity to use it. >> any other evidence, don, you would have liked to have brought in? >> i think that's the most powerful evidence. that would have helped equalize the jury instructions, physical abilities and capabilities of everybody involved. we offered the gym teacher, if you will. i think we had the same right to

show trayvon martin's knowledge and experience in physical context. >> what about when they go for second degree, they start losing the case. every commentator is recognizing they're losing the case. now we'll lower it to manslaughter or third degree murder or child abuse as the foundation. is that good for our system of justice. >> that's just what we call the necessary lesser included. i did not like their behavior to wait until literally the 11th hour and 59th minute to try to sneak in a third degree murder by child abuse which they planned for months because you don't walk into court with 15 cases ready to go, 7:20 the day you're giving jury instructions unless you planned it. >> how hard was it waiting for the jury to come back? they were gone almost 16 hours. how hard was that? >> it's the worst time of my life. i liken it to this for those

people who don't do trial work. it's like waiting outside a surgery room while you have a family member in surgery. you can't do anything. every time a door knocks or something happens, you jump but you just have to sit, wait patiently. >> 16 hours? >> that's all. >> oh, my goodness. i thought it was 16 days. >> when we come back i want to ask you about the president's comments on this case. i want to ask you about the potential for a civil rights case by the justice department. we'll have more with the zimmerman defense team when we return. also athletes, celebrities, and a few loud mouth athletes took their words to twitter. is that responsible for fueling the violent protests this weekend. we'll tackle that as hannity continues. all business purchases.

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even before the zimmerman trial began, some of the mainstream media said he was guilty. there was no trace of evidence to back that up. the most plate tent example was bias by the journalists over at nbc news who deceptively edited a 911 call that was placed by zimmerman to make it sound like he had racially profiled trayvon martin. moments after the not guilty verdict was handed down zimmerman defense team had very strong words for the mainstream

media, watch. >> two systems went against george zimmerman that you can't understand. you guys, the media, he was like a patient in an operating table with a mad scientists were committing experiments on him and he had no anesthesia. he didn't know why he was turned in to this monster but quite honestly, you guys had a lot to do with it. you just did because you took a story that was fed to you and you ran with it and you ran right over him. and that was horrid to him. >> in the studio we continue with zimmerman defense attorneys, mark o'mara and don west. i was glad you did that because they were guilty of this. >> they truly were. they didn't know any better because they were given a well-crafted story fed to them with the picture of a 12-year-old child and a 275 pound george zimmerman. they gave a great narrative, that that person had to kill

this young black child of 12 years of age. it was fantasy. unfortunately the media ran with it because it was so compelling a story. i'm hoping that the media has learned that it will never look at a story fed to you and do not what journalists were taught to do 50 years ago, look at your sources, vet it out. >> richard jewel fit the profile of the lone bomber. he lived with his mother. the duke lacrosse case was another example. let's talk about the president of the united states. if i had a son, he would like like trayvon. his only reaction to the verdict is, well, let's talk about gun control. >> the first comment, i really think that he also bought hook, line and sinker, although he's got the best research in the univer universe, because if he had bought that hook, line and sinker and he had looked at the real pictures of george zimmerman and trayvon martin, i don't think he ever would have made that comment. having done that and us ooed the power of his office for that

purpose, he had an opportunity when the verdict came down to rebalance things, to say a jury heard this and they decided it and he is an innocent man who used self-defense. let's take this lesson and move forward. gun control needs to be revisited. george zimmerman used that gun properly after waiting 45 seconds. why not acknowledge that? >> what was your reaction, don? >> george zimmerman acted in lawful self-defense. he did what he had the absolute right to do to save his own life, and he did. this wasn't a hate crime. if it had been a hate crime, he would have been prosecuted for a hate crime. that suggests in the state of florida. to speak now after the verdict speaks to loudly that this is still an issue, i agree. the opportunity was there to speak strongly about what this jury's verdict really says.

>> what do you think about eric holder in the news of the day that they're considering reopening what had been open before, civil rights charges against george? >> this started a year ago when they brought down the fbi and did a full investigation of whether or not george zimmerman violated trayvon martin's civil rights. we have it. it's all in discovery. everyone has said george is a meek, mild guy without a racist bone in his body. we have that information. i think the suggestion that they're going to look at it is placating those people that they want to placate to believe that there's still some investigation going on. >> didn't george zimmerman date a black woman, take one to the prom? didn't he mentor black children on weekends? >> at the time this happened, he was mentoring two black children. he had black children living in his home from the time he was 6 to 12. he did bring a black girl from

barbad barbados, i think, to the prom. he was the guy who went after sanford pd when they didn't do enough, sherman wear, was beat up by a white cop. >> a lot of people trying to make it about race and black versus white. isn't george hispanic? >> no, he's white hispanic. >> white hispanic or self-proclaimed hispanic. >> but the story was written before they realized he was hispanic so instead of changing the story to acknowledge their fault, they made up a new word called white hispanic. >> what are the unanswered questions both of you have after this case? is there anything you want to know about this case? i have one question. i'm asking maybe what you have? >> yeah, i do. i have my suspicions. i would love to have a crystal ball to know precisely what the impetus for this prosecution was. i know what i think it was. see some letters or e-mails document this.

i have no reason why they took a case that was an absolutely obvious self-defense case and prosecute it. it divided the country. it will take us years to get past this. we can't have the conversations that we should have with other things wrong with the justice system. >> i would like to know myself, why did trayvon feel the need to punch george and get on top of him? why did that happen? i don't know. >> we know that he had plenty of time to think about it. i think the evidence proved conclusively that there were about four minutes in between the time that it was clear from the testimony that trayvon martin ran and essentially lost george zimmerman and four minutes later the confrontation took place. what went through trayvon martin's mind, we don't know. he made a conscious decision to

engage. he had to wait around for george zimmerman to get off the phone and in many respects to be vulnerable. >> what do you make of the naacp comments that have been made and the violence in oakland, l.a., and other cities, what do you make of that? >> i'm troubled because it's dividing the country and, two, it's not trusting the system that we have to trust. we have to believe in the criminal justice system so that people trust in it. if they don't, we get back to the justice in the streets that we shouldn't do. i'm very worried about that. >> what do you think about the comment, creepy ass cracker. what does that tell you in your mind? >> i will just say again, i think that's a 17-year-old talking and i'm okay with that. i said words when i was 17 that i probably shouldn't have said. i don't know that that meant there was a racial overtone to that. could it be argued? yes.

i think trayvon martin didn't know what was going on. i don't think trayvon martin knew what george was doing or george know what trayvon martin doing. i think the one that reacted most with violence was trayvon martin. >> what did you think of rachel jeantel, any thoughts? >> i think she was in a position where she didn't want to be in the case. if i had a krystal ball, i think her mom and mrs. fulton said, you go tell that mom what happened to her son now. brought her into it. she modified it in the absurd interview with mr. crumb. >> that was crazy. >> it happens again with mr. dell rionde do it right next to

the witness. >> didn't you think it was helpful, both the walk through that george did with the police and then the interview that he did with me and that the prosecution brought george's own story in twice in full. helpful to your defense? net plus? any negative to that? >> video is pretty powerful, isn't it? george zimmerman told the story for you to see and told it to you, too. >> the prosecutors said it was cowardly for george zimmerman to take the stand. he told your story twice. you showed it twice. >> how dare they denigrate the verdict. >> did the comment in my interview about god's will, as a religious person, god's will, that's a state of mind. does that worry you?

because they've said it several times. >> i've said it several times. when you don't understand why something happened, you can't fathom why something happened, you're christian, catholic, you say it's god's plan. i don't know why it happened but it was somewhat insensitive. but that's not the way george meant it. >> last question. i have to ask you -- >> no. >> i have to. it's my job. do you regret the knock knock joke that got so much attention? >> yes. >> you want him to say yes? >> i regret having not told it bett better, i do. >> well, no. >> yes, he does. he's shaking his head. >> can i say what the objective was? the objective was if you heard what the prosecutor said and the way he said it, the passion, the glaring, the staring, the condemnation, a raw appeal to

emotion, i knew i couldn't follow that act. there had to be a disconnect so that the jury would think of something else that he had just said which i knew they couldn't prove. >> i'll let you two fight about it after dinner. thank you for stopping by. >> great to see you. >> congratulations on a very hard fought case and very difficult circumstances. coming up, the rhetoric in the wake of the verdict is getting pretty nasty. they're saying it's like modern day lynching. we'll see if tweets from athletes, stars is responsible for fueling some of this weekend's violence. the boys used double miles from their capital one venture card

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welcome back to "hannity." in the aftermath of the george zimmerman protests, violence and peaceful broke out across the country. demonstrators unhappy clashed with police, breaking windows, burning cars, vandalizing businesses. while some were calling for calm, many celebrity@leads were advocating violence including new york giants wide receiver tweeted, quote, thoroughly confused. zimmerman doesn't last for a year before the hood catches up with him. roddy white whoet on twitter,

all them jurors should go home tonight and kill themselves for letting a grown man get away with killing a kid. they both apologized. new york civil rights leader, michael myers and david webb. then you have joe madison and the naacp convention which is 30 minutes away. nothing more than a modern day lynching. reaction? >> these geese started, when i say these guys, hollywood, the entertainers, from the initial event 17 months ago. they live fwh that bubble, shawn. they live in that absolute bubble where they can say anything. the problem is an apology doesn't mitigate what they've said because it incites others. due process, let's deal with the issues. what they are is idiot particular. people pay attention to them. i'm not going to give them a

pass. if you're held to a standard as a public figure, if i am or any other public figure for what you say, why are they allowed to get away with it? >> they're race mongers and they know how to do that. it opens the door to violence, the peddling of racial poisoning. they label it white guilt and black anger. it's the same old racial poisoning i've heard for years. then you have the media. al sharpton, every cop he has indicted has lost. al sharpton is on msnbc and all these hot heads are in the media stoking racial -- >> wait a minute. protests for 100 cities this saturday? >> so. i don't go. >> here's what these guys are doing. it goes back to the 30,000 foot

view. this is what the naacp annual meeting is doing. they're creating a union. they won't get to the civil rights case. knowing that works they'll keep up. >> what troubles me about this is you have the civil rights community, activists, some of them responsible i thought in the legal defense fund, they are comparing trayvon martin to emmitt till who was massacred because he whistled at a white woman. they're claiming that a person does not have the right to a fair trial, does not have the right to due process. >> is george zimmerman who had a black girlfriend, took a black woman to his prom, that mentored black children in his home, that

invited people that were minorities into his home, does that fit the profile? >> i'll go beyond that. they say he's white. >> they accept obama as black when he has white parents. >> he's white black. >> right. >> here's how it goes. this narrative they're pushing out now is that zimmerman and everyone in america needs to have diversity by suddenly knowing other people. that makes you less potentially bias. it's false and we shouldn't fall into it. i'm looking at america right now, shawn, and i'm saying reject them out -- >> listen to my question. here's my question. when you see this video that we're airing and the burning and no justice no peace and the rioting, look at what's going on. >> where's the condemnation? >> where's this coming from. >> the racial poisoning and

rhetoric. reverend ike used to sell prayer cloths. you can't lose the stuff i use. wherever they have that racial lyric, they'll get the flame, gory, steel. that's it. there you have a situation where you have a george zimmerman who is no kkk. george zimmerman's no bull connor but according to those voices, yeah, they are. according to the new york time, they keep the focus, paternalistic. >> where it gets really bad is you have parents who teach that to children who teach that to children. if you grow up thinking that's your existence, then they've ropd of you seeing that you have other choices. that is pathetic. >> do we know the names of any. hundreds of children killed in chicago? do you know the name of one? >> except for darrell green who was one of the most recent

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welcome back to "hannity." although the verdict has been read and the jury has acquitted george zimmerman of all charges, the obama justice department says the case is far from over and they've opened an investigation into the matter.

eric holder had this to say about the case. >> of course, as this celebration unfolds, we are also mindful of the pain felt by our nation surrounding the tragic, unnecessary shooting death of trayvon martin in sanford, florida, last year. the justice department shares your concerns. i share your concerns. and as we first acknowledge last spring, we have opened an investigation into this matter independent of the legal determination that will be made. i believe that this tragedy provides yet another opportunity for our nation to speak honestly about the complicated and emotionally charged issues that this case has raised. i want to assure you that the department will continue to act in a manner that is consistent

with the law. >> the chief lawmaker is questioning a jury verdict? pretty unbelievable. we have three guests here with us. i know the supreme court has ruled this is not double jeopardy. why does it feel like it? peter. >> it does feel like it. what it's indicative of is 15 months this investigation has been going on by the federal government so i want to know was there a coordinated effort between the state of florida and the federal government if there was a hate crime not to bring the hate crime charges in the state court. at the second time, why wasn't there federal charge brought initially all across the country where there are federal hate crimes or race crimes that involves death, they bring those indictmen

indictments. why do they do it here? why are we forced into the street to discuss the jury verdict. it was wrong. >> kesha, there was no evidence of racial antipathy. they didn't get the verdict. >> they're doing an investigation. i personally don't think charges will be brought. like you said, there's not enough evidence to prove there was racial violence unlike the rodney king case, there was a video. here there's not enough evidence but i think the federal government owes the society to do an investigation to look into it. >> i think this is just morally repugnant and wrong. they didn't get the verdict they want and they're going in a second time. >> yeah, that's unfair. there's a reason the federal government very rarely steps in. the zats in cases like this, they handle them and that's the end of it.

cases that cause outrage, i agree with kesha, they want to quell the public. >> if you're george zimmerman, are you thinking, when do i really get my life back? >> the civil suit is coming. >> what comes of it is a perception that our justice system is flawed. then it's a system based on wide stresses. it sends the message to many people, if they take to the street -- the reason there was an indictment was based on rallies and protests. we are a nation of laws. not men and women. we are a nation based in the constitution and bill of rights so we look to our courts for finality in terms of making decisions about whether or not there's intent. eric holder said this is the highest standard crime that

there is under this law to prove this. >> here's what i want to know, the same guy that wouldn't indict two black panther members? what about brian terry who died with a gun from operation fast and furious. now he has a civil concerns. seems a bit hypocrite particular call. >> i believe it is. the government has to say, let us look into this and prove whether there's enough or not enough. i don't think it's a called for investigation. >> the problem is it's creating a sense of divisiveness. >> on sunday night a group of aftrican-american men went afte a hispanic men and they beat him

and they said, quote, this is for trayvon. we don't need a situation in this kun kri where they've advocated this in bringing people together. we don't need investigations, we need discussions. there's been an indictment and acquittal. the politics on this calling on the justice department to go further here should politics be influencing the decisions of our attorney general? is that equal justice under the law? >> politics and the government says there is a certain sentiment. that shouldn't rule what happens in investigations. we're talking about keeping the peace. here at least where you are having people, there never should be violence. >> george zimmerman is -- he was acquitted. >> there's a reason he has civil

and criminal -- >> shawn, when did keeping the peace become pandering and when does pandering become the seeds of dissatisfaction in terms of the krinl nal justice but they haven't indicted him. >> how long did this investigation go on? >> there's procedure for everything. >> yeah, he does. if you have the attorney general of the united states and you, i'm with you, wow. >> now, the federal government started -- >> that's different than the race being fl going to jail. they stepped aside when the state came in and tried the case. they didn't get the verdict and they spoke to 36 different witnesses and there was not a hint of riegsal bias?

well, at the state there was and there shouldn't have been. what's going on in the undercurrent, that's very different. i live my professional life in the courtroom so i can't bring in what people are thinking without evidence, right? the judge ruled they didn't have enough evidence. >> i have to go. we need to march together. we ought to respect the jury's verdict. this case is over. it should be over for george zimmerman whatever civil litigation brought in. coming up next, rob wheeler and attorney jose baez weighs in as we continue. [ male announcer ] this is george.

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welcome back to "hannity." joining me now with your reaction to the george zimmerman verdict, rob wheeler, jose baez, reaction? we'll start with you. >> this verdict was -- you could see it coming all the way along. there was a reason that law enforcement didn't charge him and there was a reason that the prosecuting attorney's office in

sanford didn't want to charge him. for the people to be shocked by it, i'm shocked. >> you're shocked that they're shocked is what you said? >> yeah. >> no, a lot of people commenting that they don't watch the case and clearly didn't listen to the law. mark, your reaction? >> anybody that's investigated a case or actually defended or prosecuted a case knew right from the onset there was not enough evidence to get a conviction. there was not enough evidence to get a filing. they got word from the prosecution every single day. >> what do you think, rod? i . >> i agree to a degree with mark if you a furman. there wasn't enough evidence. the problem in this case is that the police chief said himself he was ordered to make an arrest. if that is the case, then why is it that this case was dropped,

fumbled so much by the prosecution? i think that's the bigger issue in this case. >> jose, you know the irregularities here and this angela cory woman. honestly, really? they get to take it out of the local people's hands and do what they want? >> this became political very -- once the rallies started it became a political issue. in fact, what happened was the politics of the surrounding pressures that came around actually obstructed the police investigation. they -- it was taken out of their hands. certain issues started coming up where they were precluded from actually investigating the case the way they wanted to and this is the result. it is a travesty what happened. a procedural travesty. >> the politics continue because now eric holder is involved, the

justice department is involved, they won't stop. >> well, when you look at this, what eric holder's press conference and what he said, i think he should probably crack the law books a little bit. mr. baez might be able to support this a little better than i. a hate crime, civil rights violation, is a specific prosecution that caused the death of trayvon martin so good look on that. >> well, here's the thing, shawn. this issue with zimmerman and trayvon is a much bigger issue than zimmerman and trayvon. we don't need a department of justice investigation as to what happened that night. we need a department of justice investigation as to why 16 trayvons was shot and 20 died. why do those things happen? why was trayvon profiled in the first place? that's what we need an investigation on. >> a final question when we get

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as we continue with our panel, real quick, guys. we found out one of the jurors said that they didn't think race played a part. they did think zimmerman shouldn't have gotten out of the car. they do think that his heart was in the right place. they believed it was zimmerman's voice, not trayvon martin's voice. what do you make of that? quick, jose? >> well, it was obvious. i think the prosecution fought a fight they couldn't win by trying to say it was trayvon martin's voice. especially given all the evidence. john good's testimony. the fact that george stated he was crying for help when the first officer arrived without knowing that it was recorded so there was tons and tons of evidence to support it was george's voice and not trayvon. >> one second degree, two manslaughter so they were mixed in the beginning. quick. >> when you look at this, all you had to do is look at the

prosecution's case, give it to the jury. the outcome would have been the same. >> guys, thank you so much. rob, sorry i didn't get you in here. let not your heart continue. greta is next with "on the record." we'll see you back here tomorrow night. this is fox news alert. a jogger violently attacked. it is feared it is retaliation for the george zimmerman verdict. the jogger, telling the media three black men in a chevy mali due drove up to him in senatobia, mississippi. he said the men told him, this is for trayvon, then began beating him. after they finished they said they shoved him out of the car, bloodied and bruised and throwing him right on the street. he's being treated in the hospital. you will have a live report straight ahead. and right now, george zimmerman's brother, robert zimmerman jr., is here to go on the record. the past