tv Greta Van Susteren FOX News July 16, 2013 7:00pm-8:01pm PDT
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that is all the time we have left this evening. as always, thanks for being with us. greta is next to go on the record, we will see you back here tomorrow night. thanks for being with us. tonight, sharp knives are out for the media. you. >> guys, he was right, a patient in an operating table where a mad scientist were committing experiments on him -- >> george zimmerman would have never been arrested if it weren't the outcry from black people, brown people, white people muslims and -- >> what does that tell you? it means that there wasn't a reason to arrest him. the only reason he was is because a bunch of people started belly aching and intimidated law enforcement. angela cory starts running
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around hiding evidence and so forth. >> the nation is focused on your case, why do you think that is, and what do you make of it? and what does it mean to you? >> it's surreal. i don't like that they rush to judgment the way they have. >> he didn't know why he was turned in to this monster, but quite honestly, you guys have a lot to do with it. >> the race profiteers, they have a business model, a script. this was a profitable event for them, and they spun george's race as a white man, later when he became hispanic, the media spun his race into white hispanic. >> you took a story that was fed to you, and you ran with, and you ran right over him. >> even after the verdict, there was not even the decency to acknowledge that this man, mr. zimmerman was wrong in assuming that trayvon martin was doing anything but abiding by the law
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and minding his own business. >> nothing, of course, like this, gets the media attention. nothing that had the case tried over and over and over again in the media. nothing where the media was accused of such irresponsibleability early on quite frankly, being swept along with this narrative that's simply been shown not to be true. >> what else did george zimmerman's lawyers have to say about the media coverage? mark o'mara and don west join us. good evening, gentlemen. >> good evening, how are you doing? >> i think it's only fair, because we've certainly had at it with all the lawyers and the judge, and everyone else at trial. i want to give you a chance to have at it, we start with you, mark. tell me what you think about the media coverage. >> we talked about in the beginning, it was outrageous, what they did was buy into the media, the perspective given by the trayvon martin attorneys and families and ran with it, unfortunately, they didn't look at any of the background and ran straightforward, and they really set this case up to be the
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racial frenzy that became -- >> don? >> well, from the very beginning george had to prove his innocence. an incredible uphill challenge against unspeakable odds. we did. we did. >> what is the impact on the actual trial of the media coverage? forget the noise aspect of it, was there anything that the media coverage, good, bad and ugly, you agree, disagree. did it have an impact on what you think is the actual fairness inside the courtroom of the trial? >> inside the courtroom we didn't have a lot of media bias and exposure many certainly the jurors were kept away from it. there are thousands of analysts who are going to say what they think about it, i'm more okay, once my jury is protected. i wasn't too worried about that, all the media that led up to it, caused us to have a lot of inquiries of the jury regarding pretrial publicity.
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i think they were affected by the media blitz. but hopefully they put it all aside. >> i suppose, don, there hadn't been the impact of the media or the interest in the media, the jury would not have been sequestered and general defense lawyers don't want their jurors sequestered. do you agree? >> once we got our jury, however, we turned them over, if you will, to the seminole county sheriff's office, who did a remarkable job protecting them, and that was truly remarkable. >> don, what about the nbc lawsuit? they did a pretty bad hack job on some editing. what the nbc version was, is that your client said this guy looks like he's up to no good. he looks black. and what the actual 911 call was, this guy looks like he's up to no good, he's on drugs or something, it's raining. he's walking around looking about. and the dispatcher says, okay, is this guy white, black or
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hispanic. zimmerman answered, he looks black. all that middle part was cut out. what are you going to do about that? you filed suit? >> i'm going to ask mark to answer your question, because he's directly involved in that litigation himself. >> i'm helping out with an attorney in pennsylvania, jim beasley, who's taking the lead on it. quite honestly, what they did was outrageous, they took information, cut out the middle part, i think they did so to cut corners. they presumed that george zimmerman was a racist murderer, if he was, no harm, no foul. they were wrong, they sort of were part of the process of all of this turning against george. and thank god he was still able to get a fair trial in light of all that. >> i don't know any of the people involved in this -- i know nbc did fire some people as a result of this -- my wild guess is that it's probably some young person who was not particularly supervised by other people or someone inexperienced, it's dubbed -- i can't even --
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we're all competitors, but i can't imagine they were trying to stick it to you or your client. but that's my guess. >> sure, i guess we can give them the benefit of the doubt, it's just that it was so egregious, taking out that 45 seconds had such an impact on the case, you can't sit back and go -- this started on a national program, they have to have better safeguards in place, and i think they just rushed through it, not caring, because they figured again, if he's a racist, you can get away with almost anything. >> my advice to nbc is to make a quick settlement and move on. there's been a lot of talk about the judge in this case, judge debra nelson taking heat for her testy exchanges with the lawyers. mostly you, don. >> have you made a decision, sir, as to whether or not you want to testify -- >> your honor, i object to that question. >> okay, overruled. have you made a decision as to whether or not you want to testify in the case? >> i object to that question. i think that's -- >> overruled.
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do you think you would then know whether or not you want to testify. >> on mr. zimmerman's behalf -- >> i am asking your client questions, please, mr. west. >> i object to the court inquiring of mr. zimmerman as to his decision whether or not to testify. >> your objection is overruled. >> i have been in the courtroom -- >> so have i. >> not being able to prepare or get my witnesses gathered for tomorrow and i can't do it tonight. >> i'm not physically able to -- it's 10:00 at night, we started this morning, we've had full days every day, weekends, depositions at night. >> don, your reaction. your first job in the courtroom is not to be chummy or make friends with the judge, but to represent your client. i tend to fight with judges, what was going on between the two of you? it seemed like it was the entire trial?
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>> i don't know if it's fair to say it was the entire trial, it was situational. unfortunately, i suppose, there were lots of those situations. the first one in the clip was when judge nelson wanted to ask george zimmerman whether he was going to testify, and what that decision was. and frankly we weren't done yet. we still had a couple witnesses to go. and separate and apart from whether she should ever ask that question, i didn't think she should ask it then. he had the absolute right to testify. >> i thought she was out of line asking you that question before the defense case was over, absolutely out of line, i agree with you on that. >> and the other clip that you showed was late at night, after we had, woulded a full day before the jury. we had several hours of proffers on critically important evidence, frankly. that had to do with the text messages on trayvon martin's phone, that addressed his prior experience with fighting. i thought that was critically more than evidence. i'm not going to just say okay, without putting up a bit of a fight. >> and, of course, the job -- i
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know the job is to represent a client aggressively. there is pending this issue of sanctions. there may be accusations that the prosecution withheld information. and information you believed to be ex-kulp pa tory that would help your client. did they withhold information. was it a violation, and are you going to pursue some sort of sanctions? >> part of the frustration don evidenced throughout the trial was what we had pretrial, it was enormously difficult to get discovery from the state attorney's office. 30 years of practice i have never filed sanctions, in this case i filed six against the same state attorney's office. they were hiding the ball. they had information on trayvon martin's phone we now know they knew about it in january, because the whistle blower, the i.t. guy came in and testified to it, and when we tried to get that information from mr. de la rionda, he said he never had it.
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it was very frustrating. it took me six months to get a picture of my client's face injuries in the jpeg fashion. first they gave me a black and white. then they gave me a pastel color. they were not playing the way they should have played, and it was enormously frustrating in such a difficult case to begin with. >> does it make a difference that the text messages that were withheld from you, the judge said they weren't admissible in the trial. does that make it no harm, no foul or not? >> as it turns out, we didn't need them, but what if there would have been a conviction? then we would have had an issue on appeal, where the court had decided that george zimmerman's criminal lit course two years before was significant and relevant enough to tell the jury, but trayvon martin's experience with fighting, knowing how to ground and pound, when he was on the bottom he could do nothing, and if you hit somebody in the nose, you can
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win a fight. the decision that that was not relevant was confounding to me. and frustrating. >> i wonder how many prosecutors -- every day in the courtroom is the fight whether the prosecutors are withholding information. all the stuff that defendants -- not just your client. that's such an important piece, if exculpatory information is withhold from the defendant, it's one of the most egregious errors. >> it's across the board, it's not subject to the discovery rules in florida or any other specific state. it's guaranteed by the constitution. exculpatory evidence must be provided by the prosecutor to the defense, without demand. it's their obligation once they see it to provide it. >> did either of you have a conversation with the judge or the lawyers, where it's a hard fought fight, and thanks for talking or whatever, and going
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your way and handshaking or not? >> i didn't shake their hand. and i -- in this case, you know, yeah, good game we'll see you next time. not in this case. it would be like shaking the hand after a baseball game of the pitcher who spent nine innings throwing at your head. it was not an honorable prosecution. and i think the comments that we've heard in the last day or so clearly establish that. >> mark, you agree zm. >> well, they came on record after the jury decided that my client was not guilty and said he's a murderer, that he's a coward for not getting on the stand. that is egregious conduct in my opinion. how dare they denny great the jury verdict and the very process that they have sworn to uphold, and to sit back and say a constitutional right not to testify evidenced coward behavior, there were a couple cowards in the courtroom, those
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people decided to move forward with a prosecution based more on politics than it was on facts. but the coward was not my client's. >> let me play you what was said last night here on the record. martin family lawyer, jasmine rand going on the record, i took her to task for what she said, i wonder what you think. >> i have a greater duty beyond being an attorney, that's to be a social nk near, when the law doesn't get it right, i believe we have the right to peacefully and morally, conscientiously object to the decision of the jury that doesn't mean that we believe that it's going to be overturned or that it will, or that we don't respect the decision that those six people made, but there are millions of people out there that don't agree with the decision. >> you know what the problem is, though, and that's disturbing -- >> -- all over the world. >> that's deeply disturbing to me on the tape many i'm a big believer in the jury system even when i lost the case. she said her job is to be a social engineer. mark, you have a thought about that. >> sure, give up her j.d. and
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get an engineering degree. that's probably the best thing she can do. we are bound to an ethical consideration. we are the soldiers of the constitution, when we look case like this, and we have to instill in the people we want to believe in our system, that they should trust the system, respect it, and listen to it, if we have people social engineering a way -- a not guilty verdict given by a jury after a fair trial, what she's doing is infecting the system with a virus that's going to come back to burn us all, and she needs to rethink her social engineering or at least her degree. >> you know, don, i've been sitting on the sidelines watching this, it's a lot easier than being in the arena like both of you have, i confessed i was surprised the night of the verdict, you didn't express more empathy for the trayvon martin family. it was sort of in battle mode, and you're talking about all the horrible things that happened to
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your client. it's a horrible thing. am i wrong? or did you -- do you feel like you showed sufficient empathy? and do you have empathy for the martin family? >> they went through the tragedy of a loss of a loved one. i evidenced that, the first week i was involved in the case. when she said she wasn't sure why mr. zimmerman never apologized. i reached out and said my client wants to apologize for having done what he had to do. that was rebuffed. that's the only reason i ended up doing it in the bond hearing on record. we've always been respectful to the martin family. i wish their lawyers would have been more respectful to my client's constitutional right to a fair trial. and not try this case falsely in the media for a year and a half. >> i was surprised when the statement was made about
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cowardly, not testifying. that is a rather sacred constitutional right. why do you think she said that? >> why do i think the prosecutor said that? >> yeah, why. >> because they're desperate, grasping at straws, looking for anything to avoid accepting this jury, who was extremely conscientious, they looked at all of the evidence. we had a couple hundred pieces, before they deliberated for 16 hours and came up -- not just with their verdict, but the unquestionably right verdict in this case. their comments are a distraction and it should be viewed as sour grapes if nothing else. at the other end of the spectrum, outrageous. >> gentlemen, thank you both. >> thank you. now to tonight's hot button issue, how do you rate the media coverage of the case. your choice is a through f. rush limbaugh has something
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tonight we are hearing from some of the zimmerman trial jurors. four of the six jurors released this statement but requested privacy. the statement says we the undersigned jurors understand there's a great deal of interest in this case. but we ask you to remember that we are not public officials and we did not invite this type of attention into our lives. we also wish to point out that the opinions of juror b-37
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expressed on the anderson cooper show were her own and not that of the jurors listed below. the death of a teenager weighed heavily on our hearts, in the end we did what the law required us to do. we appeal to the highest standards of your profession, and we ask for time to process what we've been through. thank you. just days after the zimmerman verdict, growing calls to get the stand your ground law off the books. today in a speech to the naacp, eric holder said these laws undermine public safety. >> these laws try to fix something that was never broken. there has always been a legal defense for using deadly force if -- and the if is important -- if no safe retreat is available.
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but we must examine laws that take us further by eliminating the common sense in age old requirement that people who feel threatened have a duty to retreat outside their home if they can do so safely. by allowing and perhaps encouraging violent situations to escalate in public, such laws undermine public safety. >> nice to see you again, darryl. >> hi, greta, great to see you as well. >> i want to talk to you about what the attorney general said in a second. there's things i want to take him to task with. i want to speak with jasmine rand who is on your team. she told me she disagreed with the jury verdict and was into social engineering. does the team not have respect for the jury and the jury system? >> we have tremendous respect, greta for the jury system. up until last night, i was of the opinion that the jury was offlimits. the jury should be respected.
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when you listen, though, to what that lady said last night, i was so disheartened as i drove back up to tallahassee, i got on the phone with my client and said, i can't believe what she's saying. >> who are you saying -- >> the juror. >> you're not talking about your colleague on this team, you're talking about the juror? >> right, right, and let me explain what jasmine was saying, is that there's a point, certainly as lawyers we try cases, we respect what the jury does, we also respect that the fact that law evolves. and so -- the issue may be with the law itself. not necessarily with the jury itself. the jury was following the law, the law has a kink to it that needs to be addressed. >> let me talk to you first. i was so disheartened with her. i expected so much more from lawyers. she said -- i would think she would have profound respect for the jurors. i was disappointed with her. as to the law evolving, this is
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one of the most ridiculous discussions about the stand your ground versus self-defense. they are one in the same. there's no difference. self-defense, you have a right to defend yourself, just like with stand your ground. i don't know why people are getting these two things confused. i don't get the attorney general. but the fact is, is that that wasn't what was argued to the jury by the defense. we morphed into this other discussion. we have a complete disregard for the facts. and a complete disregard for the responsibility of the jurors, that they took it. i don't get your meaning. >> let's go back to the jury for a second, greta, because when you listen to this juror, and when she talked about rachel jeantel and when she described her. this juror being uneducated was associated with being untruthful. >> the prosecution did a lousy job arguing this case.
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i've had lots of clients that haven't had much education. but that's our job, not the jurors. maybe the lawyers are lousy, maybe the prosecutors were terrible at their job, why are we picking on the jurors who we draft? we tell them to do the job, everyone agreed to them, people don't like it, so they're the wrong ones, they're the bad guys? >> one other issue, greta, it became clear do me that i listened to her now about six times. very troubled by it, the biggest problem i probably had, which is that every chance that she could draw an inference from key evidence in the case, the inference was always taken against trayvon martin for whatever reason. and that's probably -- >> why did the prosecution agree to this juror that they picked it, and maybe it was because the inferences were the ones that -- it wasn't argued well, the prosecution didn't present well? why are you indicting a juror? why are you saying the system doesn't work?
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i've had so many cases, darryl where i've disagreed -- they've gone against me, i've never been so disrespectful to the citizens who gave up their time to weigh the evidence. i just haven't. >> let me say this here. if you look at any of my interviews i gave before last night, i thought they were totally offlimits completely, right? however, i do have a real issue when a juror shows up with a literary deal within 48 hours of the verdict, i'm sorry, i have a problem about that. >> you'll hear about that, we have a report coming up on that. i'm curious what the jurors have to say, how the experience was for them. so i actually, i may be in the minority. i don't particularly mind that, we have a report on that. i'll tell you, a far deeper issue to me, is when lawyers who should know better go out and denigrate the system that we work so hard to get justice in. what kind of a message does that send to everyone out there, when we people who work in the system, and try to get justice,
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we don't like it, we go out and trash the system which is the only thing we have to get justice for our clients. >> if i may, greta, i don't think she was trashing the system whatsoever, all right? i don't think that was her point. i think what she was saying, is that we believe that the response that the system has right now to this issue, right, is a nation that we need to address and see if we can improve it. >> i'm always in favor of improving. there are a lot of problems with the criminal justice system. one is, there are so many poor people in this country that don't have access to lawyers and get really lousy representation. that's an issue people aren't paying much attention to. >> let me just say -- people have to understand, sometimes -- i understand -- i listened to what mark and don said, and, yeah, maybe the law favored zimmerman to some degree that he was able to get this acquittal. please understand -- >> i don't think it did, it's not the law that acquitted him.
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>> the law favored him, fundamentally, he should have gone to jail. >> no, no, no, i read the jury instructions, i read them this afternoon, it's a routine jury instruction, it's the constitution, and it's the facts, people don't like it, they can throw darts at it, i tell you one thing, it was not the law that favored him. >> no, he was an unarmed teenager, greta. an unarmed teenager shouldn't die at the hands -- >> of course not. it's a terrible thing, my heart bleeds for the trayvon martin family, by denigrating the jury who weighed the facts, we're not doing anything for the family. >> no one denigrated. >> i think, i think if you have a lawyer come on like jasmine rand and she says, we don't like the jury but we're into social engineering. what in the world is that, she should be out there supporting the system to do -- >> i think she does support the
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system. she respects the system, i can assure you of that. part of it maybe was emotion, we respect the system. they've done their service, we accept their verdict, now we must go on to work on changes this law. >> well, i don't know what law you want to change. i've looked at the law. if you're talking about stand your ground, stick around, listen to the conversation. for the life of me, i even blogged about it on greta wire, i can't figure out what the difference between stand your ground and self-defense. with self-defense, you get to stand your ground with someone coming at you with deadly force. maybe i'm wrong. stick around, maybe the lawyers will teach me something. thank you, darryl, always nice to see you. >> thank you. thank you so much. coming up, rush limbaugh on what else? social engineering, you're going to hear what rush had to say. our legal pan environmentalist thoughts on social engineering and stand your ground law, next. a grammy winning singer, stevie wonder, now he's jumping into the zimmerman controversy. did you hear what he's doing or
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so what's social engineering? last night a lawyer for trayvon martin's family telling us social engineering is part of her job description. >> we assign the jury jobs to weigh the facts. we present the evidence and the judge says, here's the evidence here's the law, instructs them of the law, it's your duty, it's not mine, it's not yours, but it's the jury's duty to weigh them. all of a sudden, suddenly, afterwards, you say they can't do their job? >> i have a greater duty, beyond being an attorney, that's to be a social engineer, when the law doesn't get it right, i believe we have the right to peacefully and morally conscientiously object to the decision of the jury, that doesn't mean that we believe it's going to be overturned or that it will or that we don't respect the decision that those six people made, but there are millions of people out there that don't
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agree with that decision. >> you flow what the problem is -- >> it's -- and we -- i think that when i'm talking about being a social engineer, george zimmerman never would have been arrested if it wasn't the outcry from black people, brown people, white people, republicans, democrats, christians and muslims in this nation who dion madded his arrest. he was then arrested and tried by a jury of his peers. i do not believe the jury got it right. and the federal government has every right to bring the claim. that's why we have federal preempts. >> rush limbaugh was watching us last night, he heard jasmine rant. >> last night on fox, greta van susteren interviewed one of the martin family attorneys, jasmine rand. and this woman kind of let it all out of the bag for everybody -- she's a lawyer. but then she let it out of the
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bag, she said, i'm not really a lawyer, i'm a social engineer. everything i do is about social justice. and greta, who is a lawyer, and very serious lawyer, and has a deep and profound appreciation for the law took this woman to task, when they didn't get this verdict, and they start crying like a bunch of impertinent kids, spoiled brats. nobody -- these people were not personally invested in trayvon martin. so when it didn't go her way, then all of a sudden she stops being a lawyer, and she's a social engineer. and she has to make sure that what happened, it didn't go her way does go her way, by hook or by crook. >> joining our legal panel here in washington. bernie grim and tim williams.
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first to you, your thoughts on the social engineering, when you're dissatisfied with the jury verdict. >> you are a really good interview, last night was one of the best interviews i've seen in a long, long time. you could see you were offends as a lawyer. this woman, basically participating in the bashing of the individual jurors. i've been disappointed in some verdicts sometimes as a prosecutor. i've never once come close to attacking jurors who did this public service. it's a dangerous thing when you start besmerching the work of the jurors. we have a high honor to that system. and it ticks me off too. >> as lawyers, we think a lot of ourselves, but we're not transcendent. if i lose a case, i lost and i move on. i don't get into social engineering. if the jury wants to engage in that in the jury room saying, we need to make this right, that's none of my business. i can't argue that to the jury.
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it's null fiction. but mocking the jury if they didn't give you the verdict they want? >> i tried to listen to miss rand and i think if she could do another interview with you she would walk it back. keep in mind, you had two different lawyers in ben crump and darryl parks who went out when nobody wanted to even touch this case, they went out and sought social justice. they were not social engineers. the social engineers thing, i don't know the definition of it, and i don't think it has anything to do with the jury. we have to respect what the jury did. >> the attorney general of the united states said today, in this country, you have a duty to retreat. i have gone to the jury instructions in florida, and it says in part that the defendant had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand its ground. then i go to the federal jury instructions for reference -- i've gone to other states.
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you think that the attorney general would know this, the law -- another jury instruction. the law recognizes the right of a person who is not the aggressor to stand his grounds. this is fundamental basic self-defense, and now we've got this whole sort of thing swarming around as though stand your ground is something, anything different than old fashioned self-defense. your thoughts? >> right, right, many, many states have taken away the requirement to be in your home before you can stand your ground. this is not unusual. this frankly is not as mark o'mara has said over and over, it's not a stand your ground case. he was -- i believe the jury believed he was on his back and being beaten. there wasn't an ability to retreat even if the -- this is just a way to get the topic off the reality that they cannot charge him federally, and still have something to say to appease. and unfortunately that doesn't take any of our conversations about the real issues, race, justice, guns, it doesn't take any of that any further.
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it's apples and oranges. >> i just -- when i say i listened to the attorney general say in this country, you have a duty to retreat, it's simply not true. where does he come up with this stuff. he could have -- we would have done the research we did this afternoon. >> some states still do require the retreat. florida did until stand your ground. there is a difference greta state by state. in this case, i listened to that juror interview. she discussed the stand your ground law. having said all that, it still comes down to self-defense. this jury -- >> self-defense -- >> self-defense, whether you're stand your ground or not, self-defense, if you have imminent fear that deadly force is going to be used against you, you're cen willy going to get killed, you can stand your ground. >> the key word, if it's reasonable. and this jury held it reasonable. at the end of the day, they said it was reasonable 2350er and he was justified and that's why they said he's not guilty. >> my point is, you can always
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stand your ground in self-defense if you think -- if someone's chasing me with an axe, i can shoot the person, i don't have to see if i can outrun the person. >> it wouldn't be reasonable to expect you to retreat, correct. it wouldn't be reasonable. >> but this whole thing of stand your ground is confusing everybody. it's just self-defense. >> right. >> i think it sends a signal, i think it is a dangerous law. it sort of sendses a signal, you don't have to do anything else. you could more easily use a weapon, i like the ideas if you have a reasonable opportunity to retreat before using deadly force, you should, that's still the law in many states, greta. >> we need to turn to more legal research. thank you, panel. coming up, retaliation of violence on a hispanic man. was it in response to the zimmerman verdict? you make a great team.
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baltimore. she claims they were yelling something, the baltimore sun's justin george joins us. good evening. >> good evening, greta. >> tell me, what does the woman say she saw and what did she hear? >> she was -- watched as a group of black males were beating an hispanic man in the streets. what she had heard, at least a few of them said, multiple times, this is for trayvon. >> is there anyway to corroborate, any other witnesses? one of the things i'm always suspicious of in instances like this, they're almost hoaxes. is there anyway to suggest this is legitimate? >> well, i don't know, but we are trying to get to the bottom of that, we certainly -- police are looking into it, they're investigating it. we spoke to the victim, actually, today. he doesn't remember what was being yelled at him. another witness in 911 tapes says that the man was being beaten because he's a mexican.
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which kind of alleges that race may have played a part or not. but police are treating this very seriously, obviously baltimore has been a very peaceful place since the verdict. and this was just sort of one little thing. obviously, the allegations sort of raised some alarms. >> i suppose -- now what you say, there's the 911 call, which was done in close proximity to the time of the alleged incident. and spoken to someone who has been beaten. makes it likely it's not a hoax? it's a legitimate story? >> police, like i said, they are reinterviewing the victim and witnesses about this. so they definitely are looking into it intensely. >> justin, thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you. straight ahead, another man who says he was attacked in retaliation for the zimmerman verdict. he's now telling his story. you'll hear from the mississippi jogger coming up. no one predicted this one, after taking heat for her trial
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syrian holding banners supporting trayvon martin's family. check out this sign. a small town likening zimmerman to immune criminals so what do you think about that? being a star witness opened doors for rachel genehill. tom joiner made her an offer, tweeting she told me she wants to go into law enforcement and i want to help her, what does that mean? joiner offered a full scholarship to any his storeally black college or university she chooses maybe there is one winner in this case. last night we told but juror b 37 planning to cash n turns out she's now backing away from a book deal. she planned to tell all about everything from sequestration to reaching a verdict. now, b 37 putting out this statement saying isolation shielded her from depths of pain that exist over every aspect in this case. after r & r with the family
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the juror now says writing a book may not be the best idea news of a book deal started sparking outrage online, some directed at her agent. twitter handle led the campaign saying do not help the person who let a murderer get way profit from this tragedy. why do you think she dropped the book idea? was she pressured or just didn't want to write it after she thought about it? let us know and use hash tag greta on your tweets and posts to hash it out with us. coming up you're going to hear from the white jogger claiming three black men attacked him claiming waits for trayvon. you're going to hear it, next. every day we're working to be an even better company - and to keep our commitments. and we've made a big commitment to america. bp supports nearly 250,000 jobs here. through all of our energy operations, we invest more in the u.s. than any other place in the world.
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him into a car at gun point then, he beat them, he said saying this is for trayvon. now he's talking about his attackers. >> i think you know they probably you know, no details about what happened in that case. people were saying you know that this is a white, you know, these black guys beat up a white guy. it's not that. we what should be said is that three guys beat up another guy and left him on the side of the road that. is the story. you know? and people make bad decisions. and the three gentlemen that did this made bad decisions that night. i don't hold a grudge. you know? if i seen them face-to-face i'd ask why they did it but tell them i forgave them and thank them they didn't kill me. >> greta: fbi is investigating this case. we have a new gretawire. check it out it's only a week
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old. there is a lot going on on gretawire.com goes on long beyond on the record. goes on 24-7. good night from washington, d.c.. tonight. turn it to fox right now. >> the o'reilly factor is on. tonight. >> they paint this picture of white people hunting black people. >> bill: that was bernie goldberg last night saying that the media will not tell the truth about violent crime and young black men. tonight, we'll continue the discussion with allen west and tavis smiley. >> this guy looks like is he up to no good. he looks black. >> bill: nbc news used that sound bite from zimmerman 911 call it was edited and distorted now zimmerman's lawyers say they will take it to court. is it legal on the case. >> were alcohol and drugs ever a problem. >> yes, absolutely. >> how old were you? >> i was about 12.
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