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jon: fox news alert on three breaking stories we're watching right now. we are about to hear from president obama in the east room of the white house. he will be promoting the benefits of the affordable care act, also known as obamacare as critics and even supporters attack key provisions. brand new testimony in the irs scandal bringing the tea party one step closer to the white house. how high did it go? we're live on capitol hill. brand new developments in the murder of an employee in a family dollar store and the kidnapping of his 20-year-old coworker. police say they have found a woman's body not far from the store. first, brand new stories and breaking news. jenna: a key ruling in the wikileaks case after the defense asks the judge to dismiss the most serious charge against army private bradley manning. we'll have more on that in a moment. also a train derails sending four cars off the tracks. where this happened and how many people were hurt. plus, how the government is
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watching you when you're behind the wheel? it's all "happening now." jenna: we start off what could be a bombshell of a hearing on a emotional an important topic. i'm jenna lee. jon: i'm jon scott. testimony in the irs scandal involving the targetting of key party groups. lawmakers questioning the an irs agent who works in the cincinnati office. she is the employee said it was a nuclear strike when washington pinned the department, pinned her department for targeting and adding there was no way there could have been two rogue agents because of what she called tight inventory control systems. today we'll hear more from her and from irs officials based in washington. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel is live on capitol hill keeping an eye on that. what else are we expecting from
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this hearing, mike? >> reporter: jon, it promises to be interesting as we hear the washington irs and cincinnati irs field office perspectives from two key witnesses. the house oversight committee will hear from a total of five witnesses today but a lot of focus will be on carter hull, who recently left the irs in washington as tax law specialist and they did not like being scapegoated for the irs mess. >> chichi was there early on and it was quickly sent to washington where the orders continually seemed to come to do what the former acting commissioner called, not distressing. you know the truth is, that decisions were made as far as we can tell, problem properly in the beginning and this grouping was a way to stop literally hundreds of applications. >> reporter: we will also be looking for signs of tension as chairman darrell issa and the top democrat on the panel,
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elijah cummings have been engaged in a very public spat over this particular investigation, jon. >> there is also, mike, this revelation that the chief counsel's office at the irs wanted to know about the political activities of some of these groups during the 2010 election cycle. what can you tell us about that? >> reporter: certainly that is something that house oversight republicans have been hitting hard, going into this hearing. a key area of focus, and it has also gotten the attention of an attorney representing 41 conservative organizations suing the irs for targeting these groups. >> this issue of the targeting of the irs reached to the highest levels including the office of chief counsel of the internal revenue service, and that is the highest legal entity within the irs and that is a position appointed by the president. so i think there will be a lot of explaining to have to do by the president after this is over. >> reporter: the chief counsel is one of two political appoint epositions at irs and has led
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some republicans to say, ah-ha. >> mike emanuel. it will abysssy day for you. thanks again, mike. >> reporter: sure. jenna: the president is expected to speak publicly about his signature health care law for the first time since his administration announce ad one year delay in implementing the employer mandate. the white house will focus on a something that will save consumers billions and billions of dollars. dueling health care events at the white house and capitol hill. tell us what is going on at d.c. today? >> reporter: jenna, here at the white house we'll showcase families that benefited from obamacare and community groups will enroll people in health insurance marketplaces in october. more healthy young people they can get to enroll the lower the rates it will be for everyone. yesterday the president's aides were all smiles about a new york report that predicts rates for some young people will be cut in
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half. not only new insurers will be in the market to offer plans for new consumers, the cost for plans will be down by 50% according to the state. despite the fact that new york's health care costs are much higher than the national average. >> reporter: as jay said, new york rates tend to be more expensive than most states and in some states insurance rates won't fall at all. folks here also showcasing rebates going out this summer that average $100 a piece and essentially represent insurance company overspending on administrative, rather than medical costs, jenna. jenna: so that's the white house's position. what about what is happening on the hill? >> reporter: well republicans continuing to pick at the most unpopular parts of the affordable care act, the requirement that people buy insurance if they can afford it and businesses with more than 50 workers offer insurance to their employees. the employer mandate of course has been put off for a year and house majority leader eric cantor said this morning that is proof that the administration knows it's a problem. >> well, i think what happens is
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the administration took a, took a step a few weeks ago, which matched what a lot of us have been saying for a long time, that this obamacare law is fuamentally flawed. the administration began to see and finally admitted that it wasn't ready to be implemented. >> reporter: the house energy and commerce subcommittee will hold a hearing today after releasing what it calls a rate shock report, that declares obamacare is unaffordable and won't deliver the health care that americans need. jenna? jenna: we'll wait for the president's comments in about 20 minutes from now. wendell, thank you very much. >> our next guest sees evidence of a major fracture in the coalition of obamacare supporters. writing in today's "wall street journal" karl rove says, the high level of discontent with obamacare suggests that republicans can win on the issue of health care by offering substantive, conservative alternatives. karl rove served as deputy chief of staff and senior advisor to president george w. bush.
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he is a fox news contributor and our guest right now. so about 36 hours ago, karl, the house of representatives voted for the 38th and 39th times, at least that is the count we believe to be accurate, to repeal obamacare. are you saying that's not enough? >> yes. i mean that's good and this was a particularly effective reply to the president's action in delaying the employer mandate to say, we ought to delay the individual mandate as well. if you're going to help corporations out, you ought to help individual families and individual workers out. look, there's a real problem with just simply saying no. that is the american people know the health care system while it is great in many respects is broken in other respects and they want things to be done that will make insurance more affordable and more accessible. the great news, republicans have plenty of ideas, conservative ideas that are sensible and common sense and that can help do that like allowing people to
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buy health insurance across state lines. letting people save more stacks-free out-of-pocket expenses. let them use pretax dollars to buy insurance. small business join together to pool the risks so they get the same discounts big companies get. these are a few simple steps all of which test pretty well in the polling and will have a real impact on making insurance more affordable and accessible. jon: the president has a big bully pulpit and he will use it today maybe to engage in a p.r. campaign over obamacare after all the bad news people are have been reading about lately. you heard jay carney saying at the white house yesterday that 8.5 million people are getting 100-dollar on average rebate checks from their insurance companies, for instance. >> that is because they have a requirement that the insurance companies spend at least 80% of their funds on payments to individuals. this is causing insurance companies to cut back on some expenses, like, for example, fraud detection. you get no benefit from spending money if you're an insurance
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company for fraud detection under the obamacare regime. you did before because it had impact on your profits. if you spend a dollar on fraud protection it counts against 20%. i talked to insurance company executives. they're concerned they're unnecessarily cutting back on fraud detection in order to avoided the arbitrary limit you have to pay out each and every year, 80% of what you take in you have to pay out in premiums. let's be honest bit. the affordable care act is not delivering fundamentally on every promise the president made about it. starting with if you like what you got you can keep it. we know that is not true and that your insurance premiums will go down $2500 a year. the year before president obama brought into effect the affordable care act the average premium was $13,375. went up slightly the year that it was passed. as of today, it is now $15,745 at the end of last year. the president said it would go down $2500. instead it has gone up by
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$2,000. that is a pretty wide swing. jon: the president's defenders say that this program, though it has its glitches and its problems and the roleout is being delayed, that it is similar to medicare part-d which was launched as you know during the bush 43 administration. here is one quote from today's "washington post" article. months before it launched in 2006 medicare part-d was less popular than today's affordable care act. 21% of the public viewed it favorably. 66% did not understand how it would work. the rollout was a disaster. today medicare part-d has more than 5 million beneficiaries and is extremely popular. is there a comparison there, karl? >> well, first of all, mr. clyde a liberal blogger and perhaps the biggest cheerleader "the washington post" has for president obama is absolutely wrong about that yes, the program was not as popular, only 21% in one poll said they understood it enough and knew what it was going to do.
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there was a large amount of people not paying any attention to it whatsoever because it was senior prescription drug coverage. seniors however, were paying a lot of attention to it. and they signed up. when they signed up for the program three bad things happened. more people signed up than were expected. they signed up quicker than was expected. and they used it more than was expected. the so-called utilization rate was higher, and yet, this year is the 10th anniversary of the passage of that law and the law is coming in 40% under the cost estimates of the congressional budget office because unlike obamacare, it was not the government in charge. it put the individual in charge. it said, it use ad thing, a democrat idea, called premium support that said, we're going to give a certain amount of money to every senior and allow them to pick an insurance policy to help meet their prescription drug needs. we'll have a little bit of means testing in it, not enough, but we'll have a little bit in it but the individual is in charge and makes the decisions and not the government. there's a limit how much support the government is going to give.
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as a result consumers went out there and shopped very effectively for the kind of health care that they needed and as a as a result the program is a enormous success and way, way under budget this program is already busting the budget. this program is already busting every promise it made. you can keep what you like if you got a good insurance policy. we'll reduce your premiums. we'll reduce the overall cost of health care spending in america. we'll reduce the deficit. none of those things are coming to past and mr. klein's article, i was astonished put on page one a liberal blogger gets to depict himself as journalist. and write this really bizarre article that suggests that obamacare is being implemented effectively, as effectively as prescription part-d was. when any health care economist will tell you that is sim flip not the case. jon: karl rove, with some pretty passionate thoughts there. karl, thank you. >> you bet. thanks, jon. jenna: big news out of texas today. we have a fox news alert on it.
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texas governor rick perry signing some new restrictions on abortion in his state. the strong, emotional debate over this new law certainly garnered a lot of national attention. key parts of the law including the following t bans abortion after the 5th month ever pregnancy. it also restricts abortions to surgical centers. because of that, only a handful of texas's abortion clinics that exist now comply. the law goes into effect in october. he did of course sign it today, the governor, but it goes into effect in october. clinics have a year to meet the new requirements. >> now this fox news alert. police are working to identify a body found on the side of a road in lincoln, massachusetts. now "the boston globe" is citing sources who say the victim is steven rakes, a possible government witness in the whitey bolger trial on going now. waiting for decades for a chance to testify against the former
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crime boss. he was reportedly furious with bulger and his associates for extorting his south boston liquor store at gunpoint, 1984 we're talking about here. bulger is on trial for murder and other charges. police have yet to identify the man found dead. we will continue to follow this developing story and bring you any late-breaking information. jenna: a dangerous scene where a freight train leaves the tracks. the latest on the derailment. more incredible video from the scene in the state where this happened. you can drive but apparently you can't hide. police are tracking your movements with license plate scanners. what they're looking for. plus why civil rights advocates say, this is just going too far. ♪ every day we're working to be an even better company -
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jon: a fox news alert. in just a couple of minutes since we brought you this story, the first report of this story, the middlesex district attorney and the lincoln police chief in massachusetts have confirmed that a body found alongside a road in massachusetts, lincoln, massachusetts, is that of stephen rakes, 59 years old, quincy, massachusetts. he had waited for years to testify against "whitey" bulger in the ongoing raketeering trial. bulger was reputed long-time crime boss who disappeared and was recently located in california. at any rate, rakes testified against bulger in bulger's trial which is still ongoing. just now authorities confirmed that rakes's body was found alongside of a road. no obvious cause of death. they will announce the results of an autopsy. when these details become available. we'll keep you updated. jenna: getting to today's business spotlight, we'll talk a
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little bit to a company who is thriving despite some of the tougher economic conditions that we've all had to navigate all over the years. sam london is a ceo who is with us. nice to have you with us. you started this company in 2011, so coming out of that recession. tell us a little bit about what your company does. >> sure. so we are the fastest way to find and book fun activities and classes locally. i mean cooking, dance, photography, race-car driving, horseback riding. >> i looked at web site. i can learn to you to make sushi, and jujitsu and all in a week. the sites in new york city -- >> exactly. jenna: why do you think this works in a time when people are watching how they're spending their money and you're showing them different ways they can to spend their money? >> vimbly is focused on, if you want a photography class, click
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on photography, see classes and same page and time slots and click and book directly. why we think it works a based on our research almost three out of four people when looking for recreational activity give up because the hassle of finding it. jenna: it is difficult to find the right time, the right class, right location. a lot of folks wonder when this will come to my city. it is in new york now. what is the next stip. >> we're in the process of geographic access. we're going to boston, chicago, d.c., philadelphia. jenna: you're a smart guy. you worked in tech investing previously to founding your own country. one of the things we're talking a lot about today is the health care law because the president will speak about it in just about five minutes. as someone looking to expand his company, how is the new health care law, is it having any sort of effect in your growth plan and how you're looking to grow your company? >> sure, fortunately it won't affect us until really we hit
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beyond the 50 full-time employees mark. we're working on aggressive expansion right now that is certainly something that in the future will be increasingly of a concern for us since it will increase our costs. >> what does the future look like for you just in general? when you look at our country, where the economy is at, where some of the policies are at, what do you see on the horizon? >> for the health care universe? jenna: no, just for you as a business guy. >> i'm focused on making act r activities accessible and making sure people want to take the activities. in terms of politics of it -- jenna: are you hopeful what is ahead just in general for your company? >> i'm very bullish and hopeful and looking forward to things. it is really exciting for us at and we have a very positive attitude. jenna: cool to ask people actually in the business world. how do you really think about what's ahead? sometimes it feels uncertain. sam, great to have you. >> thanks for having me. jenna: jon? jon: i want trapeze lessons. jenna: you and me, do it together, and book through vimbly. jon: but as you're booking
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jon: right now some new information for you on how you are being tracked and this time it has to do with driving. rick folbaum has more. he is at the breaking newsdesk. rick? >> reporter: jon, this has to do with our license plates. cheap, easy to use technology is allowing police forces around the country to snap pictures of our license plates while we're driving around or while we're parked someplace. the information where we've been, and when we have been there is then stored and sometimes it is stored indefinitely.
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law enforcement says it is crucial information to have, not only so they, not so that they can track everyone's movements, rather, but so they can locate suspicious cars, make drug busts, find missing children, stolen vehicles, that kind of thing. but groups like the aclu which published a study on this yesterday, say the scanners allow law enforcement to have and hold on to a single high resolution image of our lives. only a handful of states including new hampshire, maine and arkansas have any laws at all that actually govern how police can use these license plate readers. one police officer in texas, jon, said people really should not expect to have any privacy while driving their vehicle on a public road or when parked in a public place. back to you. jon: new business idea. a little cover for your license plate. you can apply while you're parked in a shopping center. >> should work on that. jon: i wonder if that is legal? >> i'm not sure. jon: that the police would say no. rick folbaum. thank you.
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jenna: well-have to get a little more information to report back to our viewers about that. we have a fox news alert and several new developments with obamacare. the president is about to make some remarks on the new health care law. this is one day after the white house voted, i'm sorry, not the white house, it is one day after the house completely different, considering what they did, the house voted to delay two of its key provisions, the individual and employer mandates. those votes coming as score keepers are losing count how many times congress voted to repeal this law. "the washington post" has it at 67. the people you see lining up on back of the stage behind the podium are supposed to be families that have benefited so far i believe, jon, from the new health care law, from it being implemented, and one of the things the white house is really trying to do right now is talk about some of the benefits from the law because there has been a lot of bad press surrounding it. not only republicans in the house that voted to delay certain aspects of the law but also from democrats as well that
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are voicing some concerns about how this law gets up and running in less than 80 days because that's the sort of time frame we're at. the president is going to step to the podium. when he does we'll listen to him of course, what he says matters on this. this is his signature legislation. angela mcglowan, standing by is a fox news political analyst. we'll let you know when the president does step to the podium but what is one thing that he has to say today? >> there is not one thing he has to say. obama is a great orator but the bottom line is this, the president delaying the employer mandate one year, the speech today, is all in preparation for midterm elections. the unpopularity of obamacare catapulted republicans in 2010 to the majorityship in the house. now you have democrats in the senate which you have 21, jenna, that will have to defend their seats. you have 14 republicans that will have to defend their seats, and in the house when they had
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the vote to delay individual mandates, along with small businesses, you had 35 democrats that joined republicans on the delay. so all of this is about political theater and political strategy. jenna: speaking of political theater, what we are going to see on the screen, we do have an opening statement from someone other than the president. the president will be talking momentarily. let's talk a little more about this and we'll go to the event when the president starts to speak. angela, you mentioned it being a political mess -- >> a strategy. jenna: for everybody, that those trying to defend their seats, what's happening in the house versus what happens, you know, in the senate versus what happens at the white house, in real life though, americans are going to be affected by what lawmakers and policymakers do with this legislation. at this point, based on what you see, can it be saved, if you will? does it need to be saved and who can do that? >> we need true health care
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reform. should obamacare be repealed? well i'm under the mind set it should be repealed and they should start back at the drawing board. jenna: you don't think that the 67 votes that the house is taking and taking time away from other issues is a waste of time at this point? >> i think it is all symbolic and let's just say this. washington, d.c., the congress has the lowest approval rating and the american people feel that the congress is dysfunctional. having said that, jenna, we have the best political system in the world. maybe it's flawed but it does get the job done. what we've seen here though with obamacare is about his legacy rather than legislation. it was about politics rather than policy. so we need to have true health care reform. jenna: it's okay. angela just stopped there. i was going to let you finish your point because sometimes there is a lot of thanking and things at the top. always get nice to be thanked by
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the president but sometimes we like to continue our conversation. angela, if you would, let's stand by. let's listen to the president to hear what he has to say about this legislation because beyond his legacy this is the law of the land. let's take a listen. >> -- the affordable care act into law, nancy pelosi. [applause] we have some outstanding members congress here, some mayors and elected official who is are here. i want to give a special shoutout, i will not introduce all of them because, it would take too much time and i might miss somebody, but there's one person who is standing in front, sitting in front who i want to acknowledge just because he has served for decades and, for decades fought to make sure that everybody had affordable, accessible coverage and we're so proud of him, john dingell.
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[applause] congressman. so i want to welcome everybody to the white house. every day across the country and certainly here in the white house there are people who are working as we speak to implement the affordable care act and to deliver the security of quality, affordable health care to more americans. the good news is that starting october 1st new online marketplaces will allow consumers to go online and compare private health care insurance plans just like you compare over the internet the best deal on flat-screen tvs or cars or any other product that is important to your lives.
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and you're going to see competition in ways that we haven't seen before. insurance companies will compete for your business and in states that are working hard to make sure that this law delivers for their people we're seeing is that consumers are getting a hint of how much money they're potentially going to save because of this law. in states like california, oregon, washington, new competition, new choices, market forces, are pushing costs down. just yesterday state officials in new york announced that average premiums for consumers who buy insurance in their new marketplace will be at least 50% lower next year than they are today. think about that, 50% lower. [applause]
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so for people like morgan who are self-imploded, have to -- self-employed, who have to buy on the individual market, they will suddenly see opportunities not just for the rebates we discussed but for even greater savings in their monthly premiums. so if you already buy insurance on the individual market, meaning that you don't get insurance through a big group plan through your employer that could mean thousands of dollars a year that can go towards paying a mortgage, or putting a kid through college or saving for retirement and what this means is that hundreds of thousands of new yorkers who don't have insurance will finally be able to afford it because this, these exchanges, this big pool, is going to reduce the cost and you may qualify for health care tax credits, middle class families will potentially qualify for these credits that will bring the cost down even more.
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so this is just an example of how the affordable care act is doing what its designed to do, deliver more choices, better benefits, a check on rising costs, and higher-quality health care. that's what it was designed to do and we're already seeing those effects take place. now i mention all this because yesterday despite all the evidence that the law is working the way it was supposed to for middle class americans, for nearlys in the house of the 40th time to dismantle it. we've got a lot of problems in this country and there's a lot of work that congress need to do. get a farm bill passed, get immigration reform done, make sure we've got a budget in place that invests in our children and our future and yet instead we're refighting these old battles.
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[laughter] sometimes i, i just try to figure out why. maybe they think it's good politics but part of our job here is not always to think about politics. part of our job here is to sometimes think about getting work done on behalf of the american people, on behalf of the middle class and those who are strifing to get into the middle class and -- [applause] so the progress, the progress that we're seeing in california and washington and oregon and now new york, that's progress that we want to make sure we're seeing all across the country because there is still millions of people out there who not only want to get health insurance but many who have health insurance who deserve a better deal and
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deserve the kind of savings that the affordable care act will offer. now, if you're one of the 85% of americans who already have health insurance, could be through your employer, or through medicare or through medicaid, you already have an array of new benefits in place. you don't have to wait until october 1st. you're already getting benefits even if you don't know it is because of the affordable care act. you're getting better protections. you're getting more value for each dollar that you spend on health care. and that last point, the issue of getting better value for your buck is what i want to focus on today. for years too many middle class families saw their health care costs go up and up and up without much explanation as to why or how their money was being spent, but today, because of the affordable care act, insurance companies have to spend at least 80% of every dollar that you pay
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in premiums on your health care. not on overhead, not on profits, but on you. now many insurance companies are already exceeding that target and they're bringing down premiums and providing better value to their customers but those that aren't now actually have to reimburse you. if they're not spending your premium dollars on your health care, at least 80% of it, they have got to give you some money back. last year millions of americans opened letters from their insurance companies but instead of the usual dread that comes from getting a bill, they were pleasantly surprised with a check. in 2012, 13 million rebates went out in all 50 states. another 8.5 rebates are being sent out this summer, averaging around 100 bucks each and for
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families like morgan's that are working hard, every dollar counts. it makes a difference. as she said during her introduction, she had been buying insurance on the individual market in maryland for years. after she got a rebate for the first time and i'm quoting morgan now, she said, it felt like someone was actually being held accountable for the dollars i was spending on health care. that is one of the core principles of the affordable care act, holding insurance companies and providers accountable so that we all get a better deal. van hart, here from chicago, had read these rebates were happening and didn't think anything of it until he got a check in the mail for 136 bucks. dan's a father of two. as any parent will tell you, those kids, they suck up a lot of money. [laughter] so, all right? absolutely. so he used his rebate to pay
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some bills. rick showell and claudia diamond coown a store in virginia. they knew about provisions of affordable care act. rick said, he figured i would never see the money. so it was a complete surprise to him when they got a rebate pour $320. put that money right back into their small business and this is happening all across the country and it's happening because of the affordable care act. it hasn't been reported on a lot. i bet if you took a poll most folks wouldn't know when that check comes in that this was because of obamacare that they got this extra money in their pockets. but that's what's happening. now even if you don't get a rebate, even if you didn't get a rebate, there's a good chance that these reforms are helping you as well because one easy way to meet the goal of spending 80% of every dollar on care is to charge less for your care.
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now we've got more work to do to get rising health care costs under control. and some of the gains that we've made, some of the progress we've made in slowing the rise of health care costs isn't always passed on to workers. sometimes companies may keep it and they are charging their employees a higher co-pay or higher deductible or in some way shifting some costs on to some workers but generally speaking what we've seen is that health care costs have slowed drastically in a lot of areas since we passed the affordable care act. we got a lot more work to do but health care inflation is not skyrocketing the way it was. and because of this new rule, because of the fact that it improves the value of the coverage that you purchase, last year alone americans saved
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$3.4 billion in lower premiums. that's $3.4 billion on top these rebates. so that's just one way this law is helping middle class families but it represents everything that the affordable care act means for those who have insurance. better benefits, stronger protections, more bang for your buck. the basic notion that you ought to get what you pay for. now i recognize that there's still a lot of folks in this town at least who are rooting for this law to fail. some of them seem to think -- jenna: the president again, continuing his first comments on the health care law since we've learned that the employer mandate has been suspended for at least a year and the house of representatives recently voted to suspend the individual mandate as well although that is not a fact yet. that is not something that is going to happen but some people are asking will it as we see
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this law become implemented, what other changes might we see because of the difficulty, the challenge of trying to implement such a big law. angela mcglowan back with us, a fox news political analyst. as the president was talking i was thinking about a comment by one of his advisors in the white house told "the washington post," barack obama, people doubted the president in the past. will he get the voters out in the elections. will he actually be able to coalesce the public? she says he has been doubted before but folks should not doubt him. he will be enough to get people behind this law. what do you think? >> i think $136 as a rebate is not enough to help the middle class. people are going to vote their pocketbooks in the midterm elections. and as i said before, this is all about politics. but jenna, this is supposed to be the affordable care act. as you now see it is only affordable for the middle class? so the bottom line is this. he is on a pr blitz to have
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people support this law. when you have to enlist, librarians, children and athletes to support legislation, that's a problem. jenna: we'll be talking to senator john barrasso coming up next hour. he has been a surgeon more than 20 years, now a lawmaker, and he says what we're hearing about the certain states like new york is very different than the reality in the state of wyoming. we'll talk to him why there are so many discrepancies. angela, thanks for coming on the program. we appreciate it very much and we'll be back with more "happening now"
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jon: get this. a syndicated advice columnist is caught up in a first amendment battle with state of kentucky. the state claims by publishing his column in kentucky, he is practicing psychology without a license even though he is licensed to practice in another state. fox news media analyst howard kurtz joins us live from washington.
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howard? >> reporter: john rosen makes his living writing a column about parenting. he writes syndicated columns to dealing with brothers with the terrible twos but the author is finding his work censored in the state of kentucky. when the lexington world leader ran one of his columns, the kentucky board of psychology ordered him to stop publishing in the state saying he is not licensed in to practice there. he told me this is absurd case of government oh reaching. >> by their rule of practicing psychology, "dr. phil" is practicing psychology in kentucky without a psychology license. so is dr. laura, dr. drew and numerous other people. they came after and this may sound somewhat narcissistic, i think they came after the little guy because they expected me to fold out of fear of their bureaucratic authority. >> reporter: jon, he has filed a
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federal lawsuit in the case. i did speak to the chairman of the board, kentucky licensing board, who told me her main problem that in his syndicated columns, rose monday describes himself as a psychologist when he is a psychological associate. rosemond disputes the lyle tiff. jon: he says they're going after him because these guys are much bigger. he is a small guy. what do kentucky officials say in their defense? >> they say they're just following the law. he is by writing this column, hard to wrap your mind around this, he is practicing psychology. it is really a free speech battle that is one of the reasons he has gone to court. jon: is it just kentucky or is it happening elsewhere? there are starting to be a number about these cases. in north carolina, for example, jon, there is state nutrition board going after food blogger giving dietary advice. the government agencies protecting their turf, trying to protect the professionals they oversee and they're really,
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aiming a dagger i would say, at the basic first amendment rights of to publish a column, write a book and give advice. jon: wow, don't let me ever give advice in public. howard kurtz joining us from washington, our media analyst. thank you. jenna: we have breaking news in the "whitey" bulger case. a body found in massachusetts is now confirmed to be a man who was on the witness list to give his thoughts about this reputed mob boss, "whitey" bulger. now suddenly he winds up dead. we have a live report coming up on the strange scenario around this. more details after a quick break.
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body on the side of the road. turns out this man is a man called stephen rakes. the reason why his name has come up in the news before he was set to testify against mob boss "whitey" bulger, who is currently in court, in boston, trying to fight racketeering act youizations against him. he was one of "america's most wanted." that is the man, stephen rakes, whose body was found. there are questions obviously about his death. authorities say it is only an investigation at this time. the body was found with no trauma. we have the deputy city editor of "the boston globe." mike, sort of a strange scenario. what can you tell us? >> it is strange. right now the cause of death is being determined bit state medical examiner's office. as you say no signs of trauma to stephen "stippo" rakes's body. he was found on mills street in lincoln. mr. rakes had been waiting a long time to testify at the trial of white at this bullfer. he was one of most determined of
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bulger's alleged victims. still furious at the notorious gangster and his ally, kevin weeks for allegedly extorting his south boston liquor store from him at gunpoint in 1984. rakes was a constant presence at the u.s. district court trial in boston. he was on the witness list of carmen ortiz but was told on tuesday that prosecutors did not plan to call him to testify. a situation, steve davis, a friend of his attending the trial, one of the victim's families, devastated rakes. ortiz's office is not commenting on that. rakes perceived the decision by the u.s. attorney's office not to testify as robbing him of the opportunity to refute claims by kevin weeks, bulger's ally, that rakes sent his sister to, as an intermediary to whitey and weeks asked if they were interested in buying rakes liquor store. weeks testified earlier -- jenna: if i could, only a minute here. >> sure. jenna: stephen rakes obviously has been under a lot of
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post-traumatic stress disorder. there is heat wave across the northeast. at this point we don't know the cause of death. got to ask the question, does it look like a hit? >> it does not appear to be suspicious at this point. they are doing an investigation. there were no obvious signs of trauma on the body. so at this point, it, just appears to be an unattended death. i would not go to that point at all. i will not say that. jenna: you know a lot about this case. a case we've been following "whitey" bulger for last several weeks. you've been following it a lot longer. >> yes. jenna: we will have you back to talk through some of the relationships. sometimes truth is "stranger than fiction." i hate to use the klee say but mike, thanks for being on the program. >> thanks a lot. jon: there is a new push on capitol hill to get to the bottom what happened in benghazi. virginia congressman frank wolf will update us on his effort to get a select committee to investigate that deadly terror attack. plus we're watching today's irs hearing. it is getting hot. the latest after the break.
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>> reporter: hi, everybody, rick folbaum in the "happening now" control room, and brand new stories coming your way including new testimony up on the hill shedding some light on what went down at the irs when political groups applied for tax-exempt status. were conservative groups unfairly targeted? we are live on the hill. also, reaction to president obama's comments within the last hour on his signature health care law, karl rove and senator john barrasso join us. and the continuing saga of san diego's mayor with charges of sexual harassment. the mayor is under fire. he's in hiding. we'll have the very latest coming up. that and breaking news as the second hour of "happening now" starts right now. ♪ ♪ jenna: a big push for obamacare with the president going on the offensive just moments ago. it's one of our big stories
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today, i'm jenna lee. jon: and i'm jon scott. welcome to the second hour of "happening now." the president touting the benefits, he says, of the affordable care act. this comes just hours after capitol hill took action trying to delay key provisions of the bill. the house voted to delay the employer mandate and the individual mandate. moments ago the president highlights the financial benefits of his signature domestic legislation. listen. >> you're going to see competition in ways that we haven't seen before. insurance companies will compete for your business, and in states that are working hard to make sure that this law delivers for their people, what we're seeing is that consumers are getting a hint of how much money they're potentially going to save because of this law. jon: joining us now, karl rove, former senior adviser and deputy chief of staff to president george w. bush, also a fox news contributor. is the president telling the whole story there? >> no, he's not. in fact, i thought it was interesting, he mentioned three
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states; california, oregon and washington state. these are the estimated increases in the premiums for the individual market in those three states in a study conducted by the staffs of the house education and commerce commission, committee, the senate finance committee and the senate education and labor committee. so these three states, california between 42 and 61%, oregon 27 and 55, washington state has settled on what it thinks the average is which is 39%. take a look at a couple other states. florida, the florida insurance people say 61%. this is the state government. georgia estimated between 61 and 100. ohio, 55 to 106, and my home state of texas between 35 and 65% increase in premiums in the individual market. so the president, you know, talked about new york, but new york's a special situation. there are only two states in the union -- vermont and new york -- that are likely to see a decline. there may be three others that could see a decline.
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but in 45 states the premiums are going up, and we're starting to get a handle on it, and it's going to be very, very big. jon: you heard the president draw some chuckles from an invited crowd there when he said, you know, the republicans voted against this again, almost 40 times so far. they really ought to be about the business of, you know, doing the people's business and not just tilting at windmills, essentially, that's what he had to say. does that go to your point that republicans, in your view, ought to do more than vote against this thing? >> well, it does, but it also points out another thing. there were 35 democrats that joined the republicans in the house in voting to delay the individual mandate. the president gave a break to corporations, 35 democrats joined with virtually every republican to say let's give the break to the little guy as well. and second of all, yes, republicans do need to lay out alternatives, but they also need to confront the president when he says things that are fundamentally misleading. for example, you heard him today tout the effect of sending out
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these checks, average roughly $100 to people who in some insurance companies are getting a rebate. what he didn't tell people is those rebates are expected to dry up. remember what those are connected to. the new law says you have to spend 80, maybe 85% of what you receive in premiums, you have to spend that in payments to people for health care. the insurance companies are putting in the systems, it's a little ragged at first, but they'll get better with it over time, and when they keep hitting that limit and staying under it, those checks which went out this year are simply not going to be going out in the future. and the vast majority of people don't get a check because their insurance company was able to stay under the cap. so the president was touting a benefits that's like -- a benefit that's likely to go away and isn't big to begin with. a hundred bucks when the average -- again, we talked about this, the average premium has not gone down $2500 as the president said it was, it's
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risen from $13,375 to $15,745, $2,000 increase for the average american family, and he's saying you're getting $100 back, ain't it a great deal? jon: that may be why the majority of voters in our latest fox news poll on the topic say they don't like obamacare and don't really understand it either. karl rove, thanks. jenna: there's another issue that's coming up on capitol hill. there's some new information as the house takes up the challenge to rewrite key parts of the 1965 voting rights act. last month you might remember that the supreme court struck down parts of the law deeming them outdated and unconstitutional. now lawmakers are calling for new rules to protect americans at the ballot box. chief political correspondent carl cameron is live in washington on this part of the story. so, carl, the house takes this up today. what happened in the senate yesterday that's important for our viewers to know? >> reporter: well, everybody on both sides of the chamber, republicans and democrats alike,
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want to protect the integrity of elections. but, excuse me, now the states no longer have to get federal approval to change their election laws, so the question is how do you write new legislation if the laws aren't approved in advance by the federal government? yesterday in the senate congressman john lewis, a house member and a civil rights icon who marched in selma, said that since the supreme court decision there have already been new signs of trouble. >> only hours after the decision was announced by the supreme court before the ink was even dry, states began to put into force efforts to suppress people's voting rights. >> no one's right to vote in any part of this great nation should be suppressed or denied, yet we continue to see that discriminatory practice today. >> reporter: well, the supreme court said, in fact, in the nine states that had to have their election laws preapproved by the feds, there's been dramatic improvement, in some cases
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parity with minority voters in terms of a per capita situation. this is not going to be easy to draft this legislation. doing so in the midst of all the scandals, investigations, gridlock on the budget, the potential of a government shutdown and still more automatic spending cut, it's going to be pretty tough to get this thing done. jenna: what exactly is happening in the house today in relation to all of that? >> reporter: well, much the same thing, but we're hearing from the republican-controlled house as opposed to the democratic senate is much more of an argument pointing out that the supreme court made this decision. chuck grassley is the ranking republican on the senate judiciary committee, and he was talking about exactly that yesterday. listen. >> more african-american and hispanic candidates than ever are winning elections. now, i say that because the supreme court has found these facts to be of constitutional significance. >> reporter: well, voting rights activists say they need a new law to make sure that stays that way. the battle is whether or not in making new law they might tip the scales in one direction or another, and when you're only a
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few months away from next year's election cycle, it could be tough to get to a deal. jenna: we'll add it to the list. carl, thank you. jon: well, right now witnesses are dropping bombshell testimony at a house hearing on the irs scandal. for the first time, we are hearing from an agent at the center of the targeting controversy. this as new testimony puts lois lerner back in the spotlight. you probably remember her. she is the now-suspended head of the irs unit on tax-exempt organizations. and moments ago the chairman of the committee, congressman darrell issa, grilled a retired irs attorney over the apparent singling out of tea party groups for extra scrutiny. listen. >> you give us a reason where in history you'd seen that kind of lumping together of people primarily 501c4s and the kind of delays, this nearly three years' delay and still counting? >> i don't think i could answer that question, sir. >> but you don't have any experience of seeing it?
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>> i have no experience -- >> thank you. jon: a.b. stoddard is associate editor and columnist for the hill. darrell issa has been contending this irs thing goes all the way up to the white house. has he succeeded in proving that yet? >> no, he has not. he said in a tv interview a while back that they were on their way to proving it. that has not been proven, and what you see democrats arguing this week against the chairman is that there has been enough evidence from interviews they have turned up of irs employees that were originally withheld that say there was no political motivation whatsoever and no white house connection. however, there is a washington connection. it was not rogue agents in cincinnati. and if you look at 100% of the groups being targeted versus just a few liberal groups being targeted, obviously, it looks like political motivation. so both sides are going to repeat this. there's going to be an effort on the republican side to say that this was an operation that
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originated out of washington that might have had connection to the white house, but they haven't proven it while you'll have democrats continue to complain that this is a cherry-picked witch hunt because original findings by russell george, the ig, in his report were withheld. that, in fact, some liberal groups had been targeted as well. so there's going to be a lot of back and forth. and the irs needs some cleaning up. but there is no evidence yet connecting this to the white house, and there is not still an explanation for why only a few liberal groups were targeted versus all of the conservative groups. jon: you mentioned the blame that the irs cast on these, quote-unquote, rogue agents in cincinnati. that line apparently came from lois lerner. one of the cincinnati agents who's testifying today, elizabeth hoffacre, talked about how being accused as being the center of all this made her
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feel. listen. >> what we now know from you and mr. hull definitively, under oath, is that that was not true. if we had stopped this investigation previously, we would just have the answer that this was some rogue employees in cincinnati. how did you feel when they said that when you knew that that was not the case, that it was just rogue agents down in cincinnati? >> sir, i was deeply offended. i mean, it impugned my reputation and the reputation of other agents and, basically, all federal employees. jon: so when you digging a little deeper into this, a.b., there are stories besides what lois lerner and some of the others have told. >> yes, it's clear that there are employees who, like ms. hofakre, who have indicated they were under direction from the white house. democrats will maintain they've spoke toen to irs employees who said this was simply an overwhelm of the system from the suicides united decision that -- citizens united decision that resulted in this extra
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scrutiny. that actually stands up only until you know, as i said, that 100% of the tea party, 9/12, you know, various groups were scrutinized, and many of them still waiting for approval versus only a few liberal groups. we don't know a lot about what happened at the direction of the washington irs employees, and we need to know more. and the problem, the reason this investigation continues to sort of disappear from the top of the debate is because, you know, until lois lerner's given immunity and we really learn everything, it's very hard in the face of democratic charges that this is a partisan witch hunt and has been cherry picked. jon yeah. >> you have an ig who withheld information in his report. this is going to blend into the background against, you know, bigger stories like what's happening with obamacare -- jon: right. >> -- the snowden leak, everything. that's the problem for this investigation. jon: and immunity for lois lerner is going to rankle a lot of members of congress. we'll see if that ever happens.
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a.b. stoddard, thank you. >> thanks. jenna: well, there's an aggressive new role for the united nations funded with your taxpayer dollars. why the u.n. is now sending combat troops into war zones. we'll tell you where and what it all means. plus, more alleged victims coming forward as the mayor of san diego faces new pressure to resign. the new accusations, and we'll tell you who has known about them for years. >> i express myself demonstrably. i'm a hugger of both men and women, and if it turns out that that -- well, as it turns out that those are taken in an offensive manner, i need to have a greater self-awareness about what i, what i'm doing. man: the charcoal went out already? ... forget it. vo: there's more barbeque time in every bag of kingsford original charcoal. kingsford. slow down and grill.
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sexually harassing women in his office. now we're learning there were warnings about the mayor years ago, perhaps even before he was mayor. william la jeunesse knows the story, what's the latest here? >> reporter: well, jenna, he denied the allegations then and again, now, fillner is digging in his heels, daring these alleged victims to come forward, identify themselves and file claims. the city, it is not waiting. the mayor has been told he cannot be alone with women. the city attorney who's already directed his staff to avoid one-on-ones with him is actually drafting a similar policy for other women working with the mayor in part to mitigate future legal claims. >> in this situation, if it's shown that these allegations are true and that the city was put on notice that this was happening, that definitely increases the city's liability. >> reporter: so the city is obligated to defend fillner against this alleged harassment because it occurred during his
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duties as mayor. as of this morning, nothing's been filed with the city. nevertheless, he'll probably get outside counsel, because he and the city attorney do not get along. jenna: so we've heard, he says he's a hugger of both men and william -- [laughter] men and women. >> reporter: right. jenna: these abuse allegations are sort of trickling out. do people expect more to come? >> reporter: well, he was in congress for 20 years, and that's part of the problem. the guy's very powerful. women are less inclined to come forward publicly against him for fear of retribution, they a may be a city employee or an employee in government or a lobbyist, constituent, and they have something to lose. now, number one, in terms of these girls' credibility because they haven't come forward yet, number one, they didn't come forward in unison. one went to a former congresswoman. also it's early. their lawyers have sworn affidavits from these victims, and they did their own
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investigation. yesterday a new woman, a lobbyist, did tell a local television station in shadow that while a congressman he did touch her inappropriately, and a former state assemblywoman told her six women fillner physically and verbally harassed them, a charge he denied when confronted. now, a majority in the city council want him out calling him an embarrassment and a liability to taxpayers. >> short of taking the door off of his office and retasking his security detail to be a babysitter, i don't know what we would be doing. >> reporter: so democratic leaders will meet tonight in a closed session to consider asking him to resign. jenna? jenna: what a week it's been, right? fast-moving story, william. thank you very much. jon: well, he was on the witness list to testify against whitey bulger in the reputed mobster's racketeering trial in massachusetts, but he was found dead alongside a road.
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jenna: well, right now the president coming out swinging at critics of his signature health care law a day after the house voted to delay its employer and individual mandates. the president said just a short time ago that folks are already seeing significant savings under the new law, and he took a jab at the gop for wanting to repeal obamacare. take a listen. >> republicans in the house of representatives voted for nearly
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the 40th time to dismantle it. we have got a lot of problems in the country, and there's a lot of work that congress needs to do, and yet we're refighting these battles. [laughter] sometimes i just try to figure out why. jenna: let's ask senator john barrasso. he chairs the senate policy committee practicing orthopedic surgeon for 24 years. why do republicans continue to attempt this? >> because americans of both parties think that this health care law is bad for them personally. they believe it's going to raise the cost of their care, and we're seeing that, raise the cost of their taxes, raise the cost of their insurance premiums. at the same time, americans believe that the quality and availability of their own care will be worse. it's what i hear every weekend in wyoming at home, but it's not just me, it's what the unions have even said to the president
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in a letter to harry reid and to nancy pelosi saying, hey, this is destroying the fundamental background, i'm sorry, backbone of the american middle class which is -- jenna: but that's -- >> -- this is the 40-hour work workweek. jenna: but the president said, looked at states like new york, for example, and said that premiums are coming down, that health care is becoming more affordable. you say it's not. why is there such a discrepancy? why, are folks looking at completely different numbers? why is something that's happening in new york not happening in the state of wyoming? >> because the president, i believe, is grasping at straws. the new york example affects only 17,000 individuals. ohio said their rates are going up in that individual market by 88%. so for every one person that may see the benefit that the president's talking about in new york, there are another 150 people in new york who are completely uncovered with insurance. so the president even talks
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about some checks that went out for about $100 on average. that's going to be gobbled up by the new health insurance tax that affects everyone with health insurance come january 1st. jenna: if i could, if you could take your hat off as a senator, i know you've been critical of the bill, but i'd like to talk to dr. barrasso if i could for a moment not about any issues or anything like that, but about care. because at the end of the day regardless of what happens with politics, this is health care. it's very personal for everyone in this country and how we're treated, whether we have any sort of issue or health problem. and that's so key for so many families. so, dr. barrasso, when we talk about premiums coming down, what does that mean for the care that we're going to receive? because when you hear that things are going to be cheaper, sometimes that seems better, but i'm curious in your medical, professional opinion, what does that really mean for us in real life? >> the president continued to talk about coverage instead of care. and like you, jenna, i believe what people were looking for with health care reform was so they could get the care that
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they need from the doctor that they choose at a lower cost. and we're not seeing that. the president's answer is to put a lot of people on the medicaid program which is a program where we know so many individuals aren't even able to see a doctor if they have medicaid. it's a failing system. there's a better with way to do this, but i believe we need to continue to dismantle the president's health care law, try to repeal it, take it apart piece by piece. but the president even admits there's a failure when he goes and delays for a year the employer mandate. what he needs to do is also get rid of the individual mandate, because come january 1st every american has to buy government-approved health insurance, and i will tell you, that's not in the best interests of the american people and many times this is insurance that they don't need, don't want and can't afford. jenna: we'll see what happens. no one expected the employer mandate not to go into effect, and now we'll see what happens to the individual mandates. we have a few months until that time. just a quick question, senator,
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because your name has certainly made a lot of news, liz cheney saying she's going to get into the senate race and a lot of folks with a lot of different opinions. you've said it's the wrong race at the wrong time. why do you believe that? >> well, mike enzi is my friend, my colleague, i work closely with him. he does an excellent job representing the people of wyoming in the united states senate. he is a solid conservative, and i support his re-election. i have great respect for the entire cheney family, for the vice president, for lynn as well as for liz, and i just think it's the wrong race at the wrong time. jenna: on "special report" last night, there was a debate about this on the panel, and some suggested that this type of infighting for the republican party in the state of wyoming that we're already seeing is indicative of a larger problem with the republican party overall that the gop must confront. your thoughts? >> well, i think a lot of people want to run for office because they're very concerned about the direction of the country and where the president is trying to take the country, especially
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with his executive orders that affect energy production, affect jobs, hurt our economy. so there is a lot of enthusiasm nationwide with republican candidates who want to come forward because of what they see as the president doing and its impact on our country. jenna: senator barrasso, we always cover a lot of ground. jon's knee issues, we'll get to at a different time. [laughter] senator, it's great to have you. thank you very much, look forward to having you again. i don't mean to bring it in, but every time -- maybe we should ask senator barrasso about what's going on. jon: i've lost count of how many knee surgeries i've had, and i'll take all the advice i can get. especially from a senator. a notorious art heist, authorities are looking at what might have happened to several masterpieces. we're live with a really heartbreaking theory. and a new push to get to the bottom of what happened in
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first-ever offensive combat troop brigade. they're heading to the congo as the region faces the deadliest fighting it's seen in some time, and it's certainly seen a lot of fighting over the years. now the united nations is expanding its role. you might recognize the peace force with the blue hats, boosting it with another force, a force of soldiers that have an official mandate to act as combatants. your tax dollars fund a huge portion of the u.n. in fact, we account for nearly a quarter of the u.n.'s $5.5 billion yearly budget. so what precedent does this set as to how our money's being used? former spokesman for the last four u.s. ambassadors to the u.n. and now a fox news contributor joining us now. rick, walk us through, what kind of precedent does this set when we talk about a intervention brigade, what are we really talking about? >> well, you know, the u.n. has
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15 peacekeeping operations, the first one started in 1948, and the other, the last one was added this year. so we have operations that look very different. some of them are just observers where we pay people to actually watch the violence and report back to those on the upper east side of new york. i find those to be a total waste of money and time and capacity. but in a place like the congo where there are 23,000 u.n. peacekeepers and they have a mandate to actually carry a gun and enforce peace and to figure out who's the good guy and who's the bad guy, it can be a very good idea -- jenna: but -- >> jenna, it's very expensive. jenna: so enforcing the peace, though, is different than being the aggressor, and that's what this is talking about, about neutralizing the enemy and disarming armed groups and taking different people from different military operations from different african states,
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funding them and sending them into an area to go after the bad guys. and one wonders, rick, okay, so this is happening in africa in areas where there's been so much conflict and millions of people have died, but one wonders how that same theory could be applied to areas where governments don't want to act like syria, for example, and what kind of slippery slope that presents. >> well, you know, i would argue that the u.n. has been all too timid in many of these peacekeeping operations, again, where we just send people in to observe. so i'm all for having troops that actually are equipped and trained and actually know how to keep the peace or make peace. you know, too many diplomats in new york at the u.n. are very nervous about having what we call, you know, chapter six u.n. security council resolutions and not having chapter seven. chapter seven, it's a slight difference, but the difference is that you can carry a gun and actually make peace. and i would advocate that if we're going to send in a very
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expensive, large force like in the congo, we'd better make sure that we have troops that know how to use their gun and can figure out who the bad guys are. it's, in theory, a great idea. again, it's very expensive, right now it's $1.3 billion a year just for the congo operation. jenna: so where does it start, where does it end, and who ultimately is accountable for what these troops do, for their victories but also if they run into any issue, if they die, if they get injured, who's responsible? >> well, it's the responsible mandate comes from the u.n. security council, the 15 members of the could be is sill. so that's where the united states has got to play an aggressive role of making sure that the mandate is a strong one, it's effective, that it's constantly reviewed. again, you know, we have peacekeeping operations that have been around since 1948, 1949 in pakistan and india, and in some of these operations, they've now morphed into just a
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very expensive observer force. and so you've got to have a security council and an active u.s. that is able to say here is the mandate, this is what we're going the a achieve. and if we're not achieving that mandate, then we need to end the operation and say there's no peace to keep. jenna: rick, thank you so much for your thoughts on this. it really struck us as an interesting story. it's going to happen in the next several weeks, so we're going to revisit it and see what actually is becoming of this force and how they actually do on the ground. thank you so much for your time. >> great, thanks. anytime, jenna. jon: on the topic of troubles in the africa, what happened last september 11th in benghazi, libya, when our ambassador and three others were murdered? congressman frank wolf of virginia is hoping to get to the bottom of that. of he wants a special investigation in congress, a select committee. we promised you a little while ago we would be talking to him today, he has been tied up with some legislative business. we hope to get congressman wolf on tomorrow to ask him how his
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push for a select committee is going. also this, investigators say clues to solving one of the most notorious art heists in recent years may have been found in the most unlikely of places. rick has more. >> reporter: and, jon, if this turns out to be true, some are calling it a crime against humanity. the purposeful destruction of priceless, universeally-loved works of art. and just to resome of you -- remind some of you, these were pieces stolen from a museum in the netherlands last year. three thieves walked in, grabbed the paintingsing, a picasso, three monets, some of the biggest names in art history. three romanians were arrested, but the paintings have not been found and now the mother of one of those arrested said that she hid the paintings and then burned them all in an attempt to save her son. investigators have not been able to completely verify this woman's story, but officials say
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that ashes and burnt debris found in the oven where she claims to have done this leads some of them to think she may be telling the truth. bits of canvas, nails, wood, even residue from paint point to the possibility, jon, that she actually did what she says she did. prosecutors will ultimately decide if the story holds up and, if so, what kind of charges to bring in the case. back to you. jon: wow, unbelievable. so gone for good with, or so it would seem. >> reporter: it seems that way. jon: wow. rick folbaum, thanks. jenna: well, he was set to be a prosecution witness in the trial of accused mobster whitey bulger, but he just turned up dead. we just found that out during our show. his name, steven rakes. we're live with that story and some of the details surrounding it. also, a big battle brewing over booze. what the makers of adult beverages don't want you to see on the bottles. that's next.
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jon: a fox news alert from massachusetts now where a man who was hoping to testify in a high-profile mob trial has been found dead. this as 83-year-old james whitey bulger is in court today accused of participating in 19 killings during the 1970s and '80s. it was his trial in which this witness was scheduled to testify or at least was on the witness list. molly line live in boston for us now. >> reporter: here's what we know so far, the body of steven rakes, 59 years old, was found off the side of a road in lincoln, massachusetts, a beautiful, leafy suburb about 30 minutes west of boston. his body was discovered around 1:30 in the afternoon reportedly by a jogger, and the middle sex attorney's office did release a little information. they say there were no obvious signs of trauma. the office of the chief medical examiner is conducting an autopsy. now, yesterday before this body was actually identified as
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rakes, authorities said it appeared someone may have been out for a walk and he suffered a medical episode. rakes was a former south boston resident who was on the witness list of people who could be called to testify in the trial of accused killer and gang leader james "whitey" bulger. rakes claims to be one of bulger's many alleged victims, accusing bulger and his partners who had recently testified of extortion. rakes had said that the men forced him at gunpoint to give up the liquor store he was running in 1984, threatening his life and giving him far less money than the property was worth at the time. rakes had been regularly attending the bulger trial and had been prepared to testify but reportedly had just heard word earlier this week that he wouldn't actually be needed to testify in the trial and had expressed some disappointment to the victims, to fellow victims or victims' family members that he wouldn't be able to give his
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side of the story in this case. jon? jon: wow. i guess we won't know much until they figure out what killed him, get the autopsy results. >> reporter: exactly. a twist in this trial as it goes on. jon: it couldn't get any weirder. molly, thank you. >> reporter: thank you. jenna: oh, but it always does, doesn't it? jon: yes. jenna: well, "happening now," booze could be getting a makeover. it's only voluntary for now, but wine and beer, well, any of the companies that make either item could soon be forced to add nutritional labels to their bottles. and, apparently, not everyone's so happy about this. adam houseley's live from california with more on this. it's a nice background, it's appropriate for the story, adam, how convenient. what does -- >> reporter: it sounds like -- [laughter] jenna: what does the new federal ruling say, adam? >> reporter: first of all, it sounds like you have some experience with backgrounds, so i'm glad you noticed this. [laughter] nutritional labels, obviously, you find them on pasta boxes, right? everything from total fat,
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cholesterol, sodium, calorie, that kind of thing. now you might find the same labels on these bottles or, for example, this quirky liquor bottle. it's not mandatory, voluntary at this point, but a federal ruling says that beer, wine and spirits companies can put labels including carbs, protein, fat content. again, not mandatory, only voluntary, but people are a bit mixed about this prospect. take a listen. >> some people make their decisions based on their diets and what they want to consume based on those numbers. so it is important to be able to get that information. for brewers they can add it there if they want. they don't have to, but they can, and so, you know, it may make a difference on their sales, it might not. >> reporter: all right, so what -- as we mentioned, most brewers, liquor companies aren't too happy about this, but it also would affect business owners as well. this is john atkinson, this is louie's. what do you think of this idea
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of putting labels on your liquor, wine and beer and tell consumers, hey, this is the fat content? >> yeah. my partners and i have discussed this, and we just think it's another intervention, another expense, another expense means less hires, more problems, terrible idea. >> reporter: do you think customers care how much is in their beer? they're drinking beer. >> yeah. i think when you come into a restaurant and you sit down, the last thing youabout is calorie . you want to sort of escape that stuff, and this is not going to make anybody happy. i don't think it's going to do any good either. >> reporter: we appreciate it. kind of the same response, jenna, as you might imagine. when you go out to one of these establishments, and i assume it's not often -- jenna: never. [laughter] >> reporter: can you imagine a true nutritional label on your wine glass? jenna: we discussed this with the crew, and we're thinking if they put any fat and calories on it, we want all the beneficial vitamins one would get from a glass of wine, antiox adapts
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also listed for balance. what do you think? >> reporter: the beneficial vitamins of beer. our crew is entirely in agreement. in fact, a couple of members of your crew e-mailed us and asked if we'd sampled the product. way too early here in california. maybe in new york where the city doesn't sleep, but here in california, people are still asleep at in the hour. jenna: it is before 10:00. we'll check back in later today and see how the reporting is going. [laughter] adam, thank you. >> reporter: all right. jon: there are some brand new developments in the irs political profiling scandal. as an agent at the center of the controversy talks to lawmakers, the testimony, the fireworks and the fallout. we are following the hearing, we will bring you the latest. plus, how relics from the old west could help a cash-strapped state. that's coming up. ♪ ♪
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jenna: some news out of washington, d.. wanted to tell you about. we now have a new labor secretary, thomas perez. he was one of the many that was being held back from being appointed. this is one of the president's nominations for labor secretary. there was some controversy about him. republicans had some complaints, but as you might recall earlier this week, senator reid, senator mccain, a bipartisan effort to try to get through some of these nominations included knowing that republicans would not stop this man's confirmation from being labor secretary. we just learned according to the votes that the united states senate confirms thomas perez as new labor secretary for the obama administration. jon: we have been telling you about how cash-strapped communities are trying to deal
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with budget shortfalls in these tough times, but one city in the east is getting a boost from relics of the old west. rick leventhal live from our newsroom with that. >> reporter: harrisburg, pennsylvania, elected a mayor back in 1980 who envisioned a city of museums. he spent more than $8 million on thousands of relics, antique weapons and artifacts from old horse-drawn wagons to wanted posters to sheriff's badges, but only one museum got built leaving these 10,000 or so items collecting dust in a massive warehouse. >> if there was ever a sort of every person's auction, this has got to be it because there are things that'll be quite expensive, i suspect, and things that will go for very affordable prices. and that makes it open to everyone. >> reporter: this ongoing auction raised nearly a million dollars yesterday alone on antique weapons, roughly two million total so far including $115,000 for teddy roosevelt's gun, ten times what was
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expected. this money will help pay down outstanding loans and bonds, but the city is hundreds of millions of dollars in debt because of an incinerator built more than 40 years ago that was designed to collect and burn trash from across the state as a way to make a profit. but it never really worked properly, and the city grew deep in debt trying to keep up with payments on the money borrowed to build this thing. in the meantime, the mayor was indulging his passion, dropping cash the city couldn't afford to spend on items like a letter from george washington to lbj's hat. >> this auction signifies kind of a turning point from the past into the postrecovery future for the city of harrisburg. so it's an exciting event. >> reporter: if you're interested, you can bid in person or online at gun says.com. jon? jon: i'm a westerner, i love that stuff. thank you. >> reporter: sure. jenna: a touchdown that touched everyone's heart and now another honor and update on jack hoffman. the 7-year-old takes an even
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