have a great weekend, everybody. see you on "the five." hello, everyone. i'm dana perino. it's 5:00 o'clock in new york city. and this is "the five". >> with an eye on 2016, one question looms large. should the party be more conservative or libertarian? chris christie and rand paul, the new jersey governor was asked about national security and he fired this shot. >> this strain of libertarianism that's going through both parties right now and making big headlines, i think is a very dangerous thought. president obama has done nothing to change the policies of the

bush administration in the war on terrorism and i mean practically nothing. and you know why? 'cause they work. i love all these esew tearic debates that people are getting in. senator rand paul, for example. you can name any number of people and he's one of them. >> the kentucky senator thought it fit to fire back and he did so with this tweet. he said, quote, chris christie worries about the dangers of freedom. i worry about the danger of losing that freedom, spying without warrant is unconstitutional, end quote. greg, i'm going to start with you. can you tell me your thoughts on this? >> what's that supposed to mean? >> take it from me, i know. >> it happens every day. >> i forfeit my spot to these guys. >> do you have a point? >> yeah. i think this rift is the best thing that's happened to the left and to president obama. greenwald was a genius because he pleased the advera tears and

we're having one side accusing another of shredding the constitution. the other side accusing them of being soft on terror. what law enforcement does is embrace reasonableness and this is what has to happen in this debate. you do it to service -- a disservice if you position yourself on the very edges of alarm. the first casualty in a tv feud is reasonableness. we either talk about tyranny or talk about terror from above. the point is you can have both. what they talk about, what law enforcement talks about is reasonableness. it can happen. what happens is we have these groups, and we're at fault for this. we put ourselves at the edge of every argument. oh, my god, there is going to be another 9-11! oh, my god, you're shredding the constitution! actually no. shut up. it's in the middle. >> it's interesting because i think the main stream media would like republicans to have to choose. you're either this camp or that camp. actually what we want is a

composite candidate made up of lots of different people. your worlds collided between rand and christy. >> i the role of law is now dangerous to governor christie. you lost a fan in me, sir, and anyone else who believes the constitution is up for interpretation, especially by a governor, you can't interpret it your way. it's not living and breathing. it's a rule of law. let me get this straight, rand paul is dangerous, but president obama and carlos danger are okay in your world right now. governor, you said you look at people in the eye who is lost loved ones in the world trade center. i was in the world trade center in '93 when the bomb went off. i watched the planes go into the world trade center in 01. i watched friends burn in the world trade center. i watched people jump out the window. i think i have an idea of what terrorism looks like. it's not innocent americans being data mined by the nsa. it's islamic terrorist. stick to them and we're all okay. >> so now you're not for christy anymore? >> i am done with him.

>> mark levine warned me, he said you're going to regret it. and you want to know something, i do not fort reasons you're saying. >> i understand your compassion 'cause again like you said, you have friends and everything and i -- anybody who was in new york feels that way. but i don't think christ -- christy was talking specifically about data mining and the fact is in order to find a needle, you need a hay stack and the problem with rand paul is that he thinks the needles just show up, like the needles came on september 11. no. if you had the hay stack before, you could have figured out where the needles are. that's all it is. >> also because you don't know what they're going to do with the hay stack when they find the needle. >> that's the question we all want. >> so can't this be -- it doesn't have to be an either or discussion, right? >> exactly. >> why can't it be both? why can't you have people like chris christie, a former u.s. attorney, and this is what u.s. attorneys do, they want every good tool at their fingertips to

be able to prosecute terrorists that is what chris kristy did, right? >> i'm for finding them before the prosecution. >> the purpose of the fourth amendment is trip up prosecutors, to make sure government doesn't get too big. what's wrong with people like rand paul saying hold on. let's have a debate about civil liberties, especially in the era of obama? i just say this to me was welcome to the 2016 primary. i think christy was trying to differentiate himself politically as well from rand paul. this is his background. paul has a different take. and the new poll shows rand paul is now leading in the republican primary field. >> let's ask bob about that. for 2016, i have two questions. first of all, do you believe they're both actually putting their toe in the water to see about 2016 and also, what do you think the republican mindset would be, will it be more conservative or libertarian or when it comes down to voting? >> it's strange libertarianism going back to eisenhower.

enormous split in 1964. it was taken over by more libertarians over the reservetive republicans. this is nothing new. it's becoming something brighter on the stage of politics 'cause you have two people who are pretty good at what they do -- we haven't had a rand paul who is an out and out libertarian in the congress for a long time. so he raises questions which i have been there for a long time -- he was never taken seriously. >> there is a difference. >> we read is it going to be more conservative or libertarian? i think that's inaccurate. i think rand paul is conservative and libertarian and i think chris christie has lost his conservative threads over this and some of the other things he's doing with the second amendment in new jersey. >> well, okay. >> specifically relating to terrorism, i don't think you can say that chris christie lost his conservative credentials. i really don't. his record is u.s. attorney is

pretty incredible. i know people are upset because he was somewhat praising president obama for following in the footsteps of bush, but i guess i don't really see it this way. >> i'm surprised of how many people -- they actually don't like either of them. some folks i spoke to -- 2016 seems a little too far out for them. but they're thinking why are we talking about tax reform? why aren't we talking about figuring out how to bring more competitiveness into the health care system? why aren't we focusing on health care reform? maybe it will be fourth amendment, but i kind of doubt it. >> if you listen to rand paul carefully, he continues to bring up syria as an opening shot across the ballast. do not do that. libertarians for the most part have been very, very reticent about committing u.s. troops overseas and for good reason. and there is always been a place for that debate. the people like the ones willing

to go anywhere, any time and do anything need to do have a force working against them and the libertarians have done that. >> not only that, they have -- you had a lot of liberals actually joining on the syria piece and also on the nsa vote that happened this week. you had a lot of democrats actually voted with a certain number of republicans -- is there a new force building? >> let's face it, it kind of shook a lot of allegiances up and you had like eric palling around with glenn greenwald, which i never thought i would ever see. that would be like me moving in with a lemur, which i did for six months actually. but the interesting thing is libertarians can embrace the idea of the nsa, the verizon piece and prism piece because libertarians know freedom requires force and force requires intel. you need intelligence. if america is a house, you have to make it a castle. the sad thing that bothers me about this whole debate and then i'll shut up, in the old days, the right would be pissed off

about the leaks. if there was a leak that made us vulnerable to our enemy, we would be pissed! but instead we're pissed off at the government for lawful actions meant to protect our families. i know we -- >> that's the line -- >> how do you know it's unlawful? >> there is nothing unlawful about it. >> oh, my god. >> no, no. >> where is the probable cause taking the information and data mining innocent -- >> there is a difference between -- >> can i point this out? we can do this again or something else. dana, i know you're getting frustrated. >> excuse me? >> on the republican side, chris christie going there was a big mistake. they need to be uniting. there is a ted cruz and rand paul who are conservatives who are very similar, but they're not fighting each other. they're not taking shots at each overt i don't think it was a good idea for christie to do that. >> i was just going to say, it actually is legal.

the problem is that technology has radically changed. so people do have a reasonable expectation of privacy. i get that. i think eric, the case should be, we need to take this back to the courts. we give up our data in google. they have our gmail. facebook. we give it up every single day. i think people would be okay with a little bit of data to catch a terrorist, but the problem is the technology changed and this administration abuses it over and over and over again. >> when you go to google and you signed off, when you sign up for google, you tell them you're okay with them doing what they're doing. >> what greg is talking about was already decided about in the supreme court. it is legal. i don't like it, but it's legal. so if you don't like it because of the technicalities of what they decided because technology has changed, go back to the court. you're both right. >> yes. that's the problem. >> you can both be right and have points here. >> so polite raising your hand. >> i was in a meeting with barry

goldwater with president carter and that is when there was a leak out of jesse helms' operation and the brothers being drug dealers. there was a sealed indictment. barry goldwater, he was supportive of the president. i said senator, he said, bob, remember something, we conservatives hate leaks like this and what he threated to do was go on the floor of the senate and say he was for the panama canal treaty. and i was absolutely struck. >> i think rand paul will have a problem with eventually is that, for example, the question of should we be a country that is more isolationist? should we mind our own business? we have nukes, so it's okay if others. i think that's a bridge too far on foreign policy that they would say we're not able to go there. >> we are the size of a phone booth. go ahead. >> libertarians and isolationism are two different things. libertarians will only go someplace if there is a clear and present danger to the united

states. >> that is actually where i support them. i think that's right. that's where they have the strongest argument. people are tired of the democracy promotion. they're tired of losing blood and treasure for these dumps like afghanistan. i do think that the libertarian party is the pause button. i actual -- >> i have my summer home there. [ laughter ] >> i disagree on that personally. i think that we could have stayed and we could have -- we should have been there fort long paul for iraq and afghanistan and that history will not be kind to the administration that decided to squander all of that. >> i wonder who you're talking about. >> up next, irs employees going to make sure you sign up for obamacare are look for a way out so they don't have to. break out the details. later, we're going to answer some of your questions submitted through facebook on the hottest news stories right now. go to facebook.com and you can ask us anything you like. don't go anywhere [ male announcer ] research suggests cell health

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>> it must be hard when even your parents hate you. that's obamacare. a law so bad that even those hired to run it are running from it like it's a mosquito with herpes. the irs employee union who will force you to comply to this law wants its members to tell their congressmen that they prefer their federal plan, not obamacare. so when thousands of workers whose job it is to force you to buy something you don't want are rebelling against being forced to buy something they don't want, you got to laugh or possibly shoot yourself. this news comes as the president boasts that reporters tell him, yeah, they tell him that his ideas are really cool. >> the run up to the speech, a

lot of reporters say, mr. president, these are all good ideas, but some of them you said before. am so of them -- some of them sound great, but you can't get those through congress. republicans won't agree with you. >> now do you finally get it? do you see the nexus of control and power before you? how obamacare came to fruition when no one, including its enforcers, even wanted it? because the reporters did. there you go, america. the reason for every single bad idea ever, from crippling pensions to pointless programs that spread dependency like a spine sap ling siffleuse. the spawning ground of left wing presidents who share the same assumptions about your idiocy and their superiority. it's one big slop bucket and we get a ladle of it every day. you wonder how things we hate suddenly spring up out of nowhere? obamacare, global warming,

arugula? obama pulled the curtain back and showed you who pulled the levers. it's the liberal reporter and the politician who coddles him. i say they deserve each other, but they take that as a compliment. >> syphilis? >> yes. it's spreading like syphilis. eric, do you think this is why obama is so disappointed so often, because he mistakes the will of reporters for the will of america? >> he really has -- he has it great. no one raises their hands and says, what about benghazi? what about the irs scandal, mr. president? what about the nsa? they go really? 35 years ago, maybe you could have been trayvon martin? they buy into these rabbits. they go chasing these rabbits 'cause he sends them out. well, they all do. we stay on some of them. >> yeah. we choke the rabbit. >> what? >> i don't even know what that meant. andrea? >> we're not -- >> ant a does not choke

rabbits -- anthony wiener does not choke rabbits, yet. those who enforce the law are actually getting out of having the law enforced on them. that's ridiculous. >> and this is why people should be furious. it's not that the people that will enforce the law that now want to opt out. it's the democratic power base that pushed from day one to get into this deal, like the big labor unions, to protect their big, vast, kushy health container plans. and then they asked for a carveout for themselves. so they mandated a law that we all have to face that's going to drive one third of our economy into the ground and they exempt themselves from it. people should be absolutely furious about what the unions did with this bill. they don't like it. even the people who are supposed to enforce it. >> bob? >> i'm trying to get this driving one third of the economy into the ground through my head. these labor unions are doing something -- they're negotiate to go get an extension on their carveouts as are everybody else

has an recognition tension. same thing with hoffa. these are the same people who sat around the table and endorsed obamacare. >> if it's so great, why do they need a carveout? >> because they don't want to give up what their members have, which is platinum? >> do they have really bad lobbyists? >> they wanted to embrace oak observe and figured they could get a way out of it. >> it's a political pay back. >> of course it is. >> what's weird to me is the irs, how many agents did they say they had to hire to do this? 2 to 16,000 more agents? they will all be a member of the union, so the union actually will end up making money, right, for the union activities and as we saw with the irs scandal, 98% of donations go to democrats in the unions. so i actually think they felt they had to do this. >> she knows a lot about this. if obamacare went away tomorrow, do you think the insurance premiums would continue to go up? >> not as much, no. but we do agree that it's a

problem. but there is an easy way to solve this problem and you don't have to get into it. you make insurance companies compete over state lines. >> like with geico do with car insurance. >> correct me if i am wrong, i think the cbo said in ten years, this is going to be 30 million people without. >> 31. correct. >> what are we doing here? >> remember, we're going to grow 50 million people by that time. we'll have that many more. >> that many more illegal immigrants? >> no, n. it's not that. the birth -- >> none of those people would have gotten their own health period over that period of time. >> most of those will be children of illegal immigrants -- >> can i tell you something to watch? remember a couple months ago we did a story about there was an idea about congressional staff people to not have to be part of obamacare? and that was squashed right away. they said okay, okay. we're not going to do that. i don't know. i've got word that they're trying to do it. >> so far what's going down is

leadership gets their own cadillac plan that doesn't have to be on obamacare. but everyone else, all the regular -- >> the others are starting to worry because their staff is starting to leave. >> i agree with dana. they're going to try to get themselves out of it, those who voted for it don't like it. they have celebrities. they won't have anything to do with it. it's so hypocritical and wrong. >> don't you understand the washington people carve out best deals for themselves? >> that's the point! >> then we pay, bob, that's the point. >> i understand it's terrible burks it's politics. >> i don't think they're going to get away with it this time. >> yeah. this could be the straw that breaks the -- >> we need a car metaphor for obamacare. the nova. >> the pacer. >> how about the he he ebsel.

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what is this? >> bill o'reilly delivered one of his most controversial talking points memos this week when he called on president obama and civil rights activists to recognize the real problems in the black community. people are still talking about it and o'reilley appeared with geraldo to expands on his comments. >> black americans commit homicides at a rate ten times greater in the united states than whites and hispanics combined. >> i think that black people are going to feel that you're stereotyping them. >> i don't care. i'm dealing with reality. i'm interested in helping the most vulnerable americans and those are young black children born into poverty. the african-american community, when it comes down to it, is going to have to do it themselves because they're not going to get any help from the white power structure and they're being sold out by the

so-called civil rights industry. >> geraldo not happy with what bill had to say. bob, did you take it that way? did you think bill o'reilly was stereotyping all blacks? >> i believe bill o'reilly -- listen, for a white man to -- i appreciate what o'reilley said and he raised some issues and there is some concern, but to blanketly say that about the black community is ignorance and it's something that you just don't say those kinds of things without thinking it through and coming up with some reasonable -- at least debating point. >> why do you take issue with what he said about the black community? >> plenty. >> one? >> they're all basically -- >> he said the breakdown in the black community is because of the break down in the black fathers are leaving. >> that's true. >> and discipline in the schools. >> you said you agree that. >> wait. but that's the inner city we're talking about. blacks all over this country who are not living in harlem. that's the thing. bill's isolating to bronks and

harlem. >> greg, you're trying to get in there. >> is it stereotype to go point out the suicide rates of white males, which is basically twice that of blackmails? it's a fact? is that a stereotype? no. what's racist is basically assuming a community cannot handle the same standards as the rest of us and that the biggest threat, in my minds, to blacks are not gangs, but white liberals who duke everybody into excusing deadly behavior. those are statics. the same stat it tick did sit ticks about suicide among white male -- it's just a number. it's a number can't be racist. a fact cannot be racist. >> i actually thought geraldo did a disservice to the african-american community because some i talked to agreed with what bill o'reilly had to say. they thought he made a great point. dana, i want to ask you about the tone and the messaging of this. your area of expertise.

another person i talked to said that they thought he was a little bit too angry in the tone. and the message could have had a caveat with it, which is what we talked about here. maybe he should have said, you can't say all blacks. there are blacks that agree with bill o'reilly that are responsible, that don't like the behavior of some in the communities, like all whites aren't the same. >> that's true. i think any time that you are speaking about something with passion, there is a fine line where some people might see absolutely that's how i feel because they feel that frustration building up in them and also if you feel like you can't say something because somebody then won't like you or somebody on talk radio will make fun of you later, and you hold back and somebody else says it on your behalf, you kind of cheer for them. however, there is another part of that which is if you're part of the audience, here is a strong message like that and gets offended, then what bill o'reilly did, which is talking about president obama, sometimes president obama has passion.

other times he's so dispassionate. there is kind of no middle ground with him. but bill o'reilly, i think the reason that talk points memo was so effective and packed such a punch is that came straight from the heart. i think he was frustrated because people haven't been willing to talk about these issues and deal with them appropriately. and effectively. >> first of all, i agree there was a lot of passion. but passion based on an -- have you been out on the million man march? >> i've been there. >> louis farrakhan organized them. there are a lot of black fathers not living in the bronks that bill knows. >> we're dealing with facts. there is a higher number of issues going on in a community than others. like i said about suicide in whites. >> i don't expect to you understand this, bob, and frankly don't agree with a lot of things bill o'reilly said. but dana points something out, they were effective talking points and here is why. i do it. when there is a racism discussion, we have to be very

careful. i'm a white guy on television. i have to make sure i don't say something -- >> you're a tan guy. >> but i can't say something that's perceived as racist. otherwise i'm going to get destroyed by the media. so we have to conservative white guy on tv has to be very careful. what bill did was he stepped out and said, i'm not going to dance around this issue. i'm going to take it full force frontal. >> that was opening -- >> i think the liberal community has done a lot to put you in jeopardy on that, but bill was talking about things that were isolated to his world and that's not the black community. >> no. >> what did he say that was universal about the black community? >> he was saying is that the black community should -- he was very specific. he talked about discipline in the schools, for example, as being something that -- i don't think anyone would disagree with that. >> people have been saying that for years. >> okay. well. >> he's saying it's time to do something about it. >> actually, people have been saying it for years, people --

that's too broad, actually. not enough people have been saying it because of what iraq said. we kind of hold back. >> even if you have a caveat, which i did the other day on the show, i checked twitter and they said, you don't know what it's like. you probably lock your doors when a black man comes up to your car. if it's late at night, i don't care who is coming up to my car, black, white, whatever, i'm going to lock my doors. i'm a woman! it has nothing to do with race. >> there is a way to talk about race and racial differences in a very funny way. i was at the gym watching tmz. they had their whole group of guys there, black, white, female and they were talking about how when somebody drives by and does something bad to you when you're driving and then you're going to drive up and you're about to yell at them and go, oh, he's black, never mind. the black guy is telling the story and everybody is laughing. when there is honesty about race, a lot of this crap goes out window and that's hopefully one day we'll be headed that way. i think it happens in law enforcement, military when you have a lot of people together of

different races, you can talk about this. >> it's refreshing. >> when we come back, eric has a stack of your questions from our facebook page, the subject today, any hot topic in the news. go to takes book.com/thefivefnc or facebook free for all, up next

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>> time for our facebook free for all. thanks for sending in all your questions. we're going to start out with five questions. number one, for everyone. do you think detroit should be bailed out? what do you think about that? >> i think not. i think there are too many cities that would then ask for

the same and america simply cannot afford it. at this point, the mayor of detroit agrees. he's not asking for a federal bailout. he said president obama has enough on his plate right now. >> there is about 15 other cities on the verge of bankruptcy. anyone else? >> i don't believe they should be bailed out. i think there will be a combination of government and private intersurprise doing it. >> isn't that a bailout? >> no. people who are in the market, they can find business. >> that's that one. coming up, number two, this one is for bob. this is from joe jay. how would you fix the more children you have the more money you get welfare system? i remember you said you were against that system. >> i think what you do is that you put -- you cap it and say after a certain number of children, no more. it doesn't -- what i want to do is literally kidnap the generation of these kids away from their mothers that they've got. if the mothers aren't taking care of them and do something with them that gives them an opportunities. >> bring them to your house? >> no, your house.

>> i'm for orphanages, believe it or not. >> it's great. >> you want to go? >> no. >> this is from greg, from lynn h. who says how long will it take for anthony wiener to drop out of the race? >> he is going to stay in until the absolute end because the only thing that is scarier to him than humiliation is actual real work. he has no qualifications at all. and his wife hates irrelevant relevance. snow -- >> if he doesn't do it now, he's never going to. >> if he is delusional enough to take a picture of his dingdong and thinks he looks good and won't get caught, he's delusional. >> dingdong? >> a nice way of saying wiener. >> that's a pastry. >> greg, you're going to run for mayor, right? >> absolutely. >> someone said i think new york needs a female mayor.

and i thought, why don't you run against greg. >> that would be a great debate! >> can you imagine? >> what would we disagree on? >> we disagree on a few things. >> it would be like when they had that show. >> here we go. number four, from linda, do you think abolishing the irs is heed i can't hype or could we have a shot at doing it? >> it depends on who is in office. if you get the right people in office, perhaps. i do think it's a little bit of a pipe dream, though, to do. >> i don't think it's media hype. >> i don't think anyone in the media is taking that seriously. >> it's a great idea. >> you get a flat tax, you get rid of the irs. >> you need to win elections. you need to win the house, the senate, the white house to be able to do it. >> you need to take it down to merely a mechanical operation which is the flat tax and the fair tax. you don't need all these people -- >> eric, if governor kristy comes up with a fair tax, would

you be for him again? >> no! i'm on a done with that guy. number five, does anyone think that if hillary runs in 2016, telling her the families of the dead from benghazi are bold face lie will have any effect on her? greg, what about this one? >> i didn't understand the question. >> do you think benghazi will hurt hillary clinton? >> probably not. sadly. >> i think with independents, it could. i think independents will be the place where that will be the battle, at the end of the day. >> can i -- i think people who will vote against her will vote against her and it will not matter one iota. >> it should matter. >> unless she's primaried by somebody that we don't know about that makes it an issue on the democrat side. >> i got to tell you, what difference does it matter? >> it will come back and haunt her throughout the whole campaign. >> i agree. >> if you haven't liked our

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>> after a week of sexting scandals and race controversies, let's end the week with a high note. president bush 41 just about a rare interview to talk about his new hair cut. he and members of his secret service detailed shaved their heads in support of one agent's two-year-old son who is battling leukemia. president obama's granddaughter, jenna, sat down with him and barbara for the today show and here is some of that. >> little patrick had leukemia, a lot of the agents shaved their heads. said why not me? it was the right thing to do. >> one of the reasons you shaved

your head, because you wanted to see that little boy smile? >> yeah. kind of identify with him. bring a little happiness. >> when you held that little boy on your lap? >> it was fun. cute little guy. >> do you think he knew that you were once the president of the united states? >> no. >> so what did you think about this hair cut? >> i was shocked, surprised and thrilled. but i think he looks beautiful. and it's younger. >> this is more than a hair cut and it is deeply personal for my grandparents who lost a child to leukemia. robin was just three when she died almost 60 years ago. what did robin used to say to you? >> a lot of things. the thing i remember, i love you more than ten thousand. >> you loved it when she had say that? >> yeah. >> he always answered, i love you more. >> there is one of the most decent human beings that walks this planet and by the way, it

was not my fault, it was the people who wrote the teleprompter, it was not president obama. that was not president obama's granddaughter. but it's a heart warming story. the guy -- he is what public service means l democrats or republicans. look at this guy and his career and you'll learn what it is to be honorable, to care, and to understand the role of government. >> also what a beautiful setting in kennebunkport. i think jenna gets the best interviews and deserves it. it's really touching. >> how did she get that interview? >> i'll just be out of the office, but if you want to come by, working from home. >> is it true she had to call you from the office? >> i think she's got plenty of connections. look at the love between the 41s. i think that's quite personal. >> it's like me and greg. >> you think after all these years, they're still holding hands? >> i didn't even realize that they had lost a daughter to leukemia until this story. i love when jenna sits down with

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>> it's time for one more thing. eric is first. >> what is your problem? >> okay, so that little show at 11:30 on saturday morning, number one on all news on saturday last week. >> great. >> thank you very much. tomorrow we're going to take on detroit. we're going to take the "cashin' in" crew and solve the problem. we're going to be detroit city managers. listen. >> do you remember this? >> we refuse to let detroit go bankrupt. i bet on american workers and american engeneral newt and three years later, that bet is paying off in a big way. >> bob thinks it's too much to promote this. it's a fox brand, bob. >> you're right. it's a great show. but we can do it every other week. who is up next? >> andrea? >> i'm glad you're the steward, though. thank you. >> i don't have anything to promote. except greg's next book. >> you can promote your own suspender line.

>> sad news f you're a fan of the simpsons or anger management or drew carey show, co-creator sam simon has just been diagnosed with colon cancer. doctors say he has about six months to live. royalties generated from his show generates tens of millions of dollars a year to him and instead of giving it away, he says he's giving it all to charity and he made this statement, which i thought was so telling. he said, i don't think the spirit of hollywood is such a spirit of generosity. i think people really begrudge giving. in new york, it's like. a lot of charities spend million dollars on a fund-raiser to make $15,000. i've been to one of those. the social swirl, they do great stuff and then it's called mission drift t. becomes more about the parties. this is a very, very generous thing for him to do a and a very, very special thing. >> i call those -- it's like a progressive dinner party without the progress. he's an amazingly talented

person. >> all right. i guess bob, your turn. >> okay. in norway, northern norway, as most of those country, it gets very dark for five months of the year. no sun at all. which is why most of their population is born nine months -- but, one town is taking a step in the right direction. building five gigantic mirrors to light the town for those five months and i think that's genius. it's a good idea to have the light because it's important. congratulations. another good step in fighting global warming. >> you think maybe they're just vein? >> vein? >> vain? >> how about you go next? >> let's do a bad phrase. out of office on friday in the summer time. you always get this, hey, what's going on, i need something. it's like, hey, if it's urgents, you can reach me. it's never urgent. you're an editor. don't pretend like you -- >> that's way more interesting than most of them.

most of them are just the cut and pasting of i will be out of the office on such and such. and i'm so important that i need to let you know this because what i do is so important to life. i hate the out of office reply. >> there is a certain industry. >> and also the whole i'll be out of pocket, you're not a quarterback. [ laughter ] >> but you would -- >> is that the end? >> no, i have something. baby news. >> oh, i love babies. >> yes. baby news. we're going to go -- martha mccallum was in london for us. but megyn kelly was at the hospital. she gave birth to a baby boy on the 23rd. baby has brown hair and those trademark blue eyes. we congratulate megyn and doug. his name, thatcher ray. that's the name. >> isn't that nice? >> she worked all the way up 'til birth.

>> congrats. >> that's it for us on "the five." thanks for watching. have a great weekend. "special report" is next. >> thank you so much for joining us. i'm rick folbaum. >> i'm arthel neville. topping the news, bloodshed on the streets of cairo as armed security forces open fire. one of the deadliest days since the arab spring. we'll have the latest coming up. >> emergency officials in new mexico urging residents to stay inside today so hundreds of workers can clear roadways and fix power lines after very heavy flooding and strong winds. we'll have the latest forecast. >> arthel: plus, summer is in full swing and just in time for your next barbecue or backyard party. "consumer reports" here with