this is what you get working with a young staff. they're young enough to be my kids and young enough to be punished just like my kids. the punishment begins now. the financial factor is done. hi, i'm juan williams with andrea tantaros, david webb, dana perino, and my man, greg gutfeld. he is here. it is 5:00 in new york city, and this is "the five." race has been the topic over the last couple weeks, but if we're going to do this right, if we're going to have an honest discussion among people that care about the problems inside the black community, we have to be dealing with honest brokers. unfortunately a lot of people in the so-called civil rights community are frauds, two of the worst, al sharpton, michael eric

dyson. their goal demonized white people, especially conservatives like bill o'reilly, so they don't have to deal with the real problems that continue, continue to plague the black community, making an old white guy like o'reilly a boogie man is easy for the hustlers confronting real problems and threats in the minority community. no. high murder rates? how about that, high dropout rates? family breakdown? i bet you think i'm exaggerating. listen to michael. >> why is it when we say we're going to have a conversation on race, you want a conversation on blackness. you don't want to have a conversation on race, white privilege, bias. you don't want to talk about the world black, brown, red, white people, you want to lecture black people. mr. o'reilly, i would like to have that conversation protecting behind white fences, come to the streets and you were surprised that black people don't throw bananas at each

other or swing from trees. >> can you believe that? >> it is unbelievable on so many levels. let me start by saying he is making the charge that o'reilly portrays black people as animals, and this never happened, is not true. o'reilly in the whole especially side, which we talked about on the radio, was going on about defeating racial stereotypes in this society. that's not what michael eric dyson wants to do. he wants to hold up somehow that bill o'reilly is a racist and target of the conversation and therefore we should be about somehow going after bill o'reilly. well, who does that help? let's think about that. if this is a real conversation about helping people, if you truly love people, want to help those in need, how does it help to go after conservatives o'reilly, white people, rich people. let's go to the people who need help and give them help. but that's not what michael eric dyson is doing. oh, no. when you start talking about

well, are you doing anything to help the schools in the inner-city? no. what about the carnage on black streets with kids shooting themselves. no. what about any of the issues attached to family breakdown. 70% of children born out of wedlock, what about that. no. so what we're doing here is a huge distraction. yes, there's legitimate rage in the black community over the zimmerman verdict, but the idea that we have to use the power that exists in this country to help people in need in the black community, that is an on-going and longer story and you can't pull away from that by making bill o'reilly into your target and somehow beating him up. that's craziness. dana, when you see this kind of poll itization of something, i apologize if i get emotional about it, but it is so important we reach out to people in need, not simply play this game, the political game. so talking to you here, someone who knows politics, who knows

communication. what is going on? why does dyson do that? >> first of all, can i congratulate you on was one of the best opens of "the five" ever. let people know he wasn't reading that, juan said all of that from the heart, and it was impressive and refreshing in particular. i did think about earlier today how isn't it amazing how two weeks after, is it three weeks now after trayvon martin trial ended that this story, you haven't heard about trayvon martin or any other young black kid ever since. the only people you heard talk about it are al sharpton, bill o'reilly, this dyson guy, and a few others. it is amazing how al sharpton is able to turn the attention to himself. i don't know of any single plan they put forward. i admire nancy pelosi today, decided to have one of the hearings, a town hall thing, to use it as opportunity to then do something. i would ask you, juan, what is the most important thing that we could do, if we set aside the

ridiculousness of the comment, if we care about people, and i do, and people at this table do, what do you think is the most important thing that we could do to address the problem? the root cause. >> for me, education. i grew up as a poor kid. if it wasn't for education, dana, i wouldn't be anywhere. in other words, i had a tiger mom and tiger mom who was a black tiger mom who said you're going to get good grades, you're going to stay in school, you're going to work. not only that, you're going to achieve, not just hanging in there, you're going to achieve. to me if we are serious about this, we go about picking on unions, going at school reform and going at charter school and vouchers. that's why people say you know, they provide a lot of jobs but you know what, unless you're educating kids, unless you love the kids, you're not doing anything, you're not helping anybody! do you understand what i'm saying or do you think i am a nut. >> you and i have talked about this a lot. i would ask you, juan, do you think that al sharpton actually represents the black community

because i don't think that he does. and you and i have talked about this, you have written about this enough in your book, he represents a minority of the black community now, and i don't think he does them a service as you point out, instead of encouraging them to focus on positive messages like studying, finding a job, working hard, being a good dad or good mom, he is empowering them to sit in their house and be angry at bill o'reilly. how unproductive -- >> in america, angry history. >> for anyone. >> doesn't say you can make it in america. he did the same thing, by the way, he did the same thing when bill cosby, a black man with a lot of credibility said the very same thing, so it is not just o'reilly. bill cosby said the same, and he said it is the black middle class looking down their nose at the black poor. they don't like to see black poor behave in this dysfunctional way. >> does he represent the black community? honestly, do they represent the views?

>> sharpton plays a role, he calls attention when there's a problem, but no, remember, he didn't get votes when he ran for president, when he ran for mayor. look at sharpton. here is sharpton. >> 50 years from the march on washington and there are serious issues that need attention, on voting rights, on equal justice, on civil rights. but mr. o'reilly has the problems in the african-american community figured out. we have a long history in this country of some people exploiting differences between us for their own advantage. it's a cynical appeal to the worst instinct in our great country. >> you know, this is what i am talking about. it is an industry. it is a grievance industry. i think it is very profitable for some people, but again, the come back to the help thing, david, is it helping al sharpton or helping those that need help?

>> add the term profiteers to that. jesse jackson and al sharpton created this in dyson. he is dishonest, talks about his disagrees. who cares. like andrea said, they don't represent the black community. we are not a monolithic community, this country is all communities under one, but they need to separate us. if they separate us into groups and amal ga mate for their own power and control, this is what obama did, what sharpton, dyson, insert name here, it is profiteering. they had a hundred rappers, didn't have community meetings between neighborhood watches, educate them how to interact. why? they don't give a c-r-a-p about the solution. they need to keep the argument

going. they're having this argument, it is 2013. it doesn't benefit them and they're irrelevant if they don't keep us in that argument. look at detroit. talk about education, juan. 47% illiteracy rate. functionally illiterate people of detroit. >> it is a breakdown. greg, this reminds me, this story about sharpton or excuse me, dyson saying about bill cosby, why do black parents want to spend all this money on sneakers. put that money into hooked on phonics. and he said why do you hold them to a different standard of people that spend the money on sneakers. >> accusations of ratism is the last resort of an intellectual light weight. dyson has gotten away from racial hysteria to create tension and false expertise, it made him into an intellectual.

that's the biggest fraud of all. i want to put out, whites have been creating hucksters for years. i mean, they haven't invented it, but think about what happened. if blacks got help, what would happen to dysons and sharptons. they would be out of a job. if you took race out of the msnbc lineup, all they would do is "lockup" marathons. there's nothing left. when you take that away, it is all gone. we talk about education, but there's a piece of education that's destructive. a lot of race mongering comes from campuses, african-american studies, gender studies, it is a self fulfilling prophesy of hate that if you took that out, it would not exist any more. the fact is, the same shallow pursuit that plague black life also plague white life. we have the same idiotic pursuit, a fast paced culture

filled with gadgets and no soul. it hurts them more, we got a head start. quayle was right. he talked about murphy brown, you have a rich white lady having a single kid, that's great for her but lousy for the rest of us. dan quayle was right, i hate saying that, maybe i don't hate it, but pop culture enforces ideas that destructive behaviors are cool and because they're not damaging to enforcers of the co cool, that's okay. >> you think about this, a third of white children, a third born out of wedlock, half the hispanic, we can focus on the blacks, but this is not just about the black community. instead, what you get is people encouraging this sense of victimization. the country is bad, so you hate on the white people and o'reilly. >> they love to do it to women, too. the left loves to do it to women, too, to keep themselves relevant. for michael eric dyson to talk about courage when he stepped

out of what, a faculty lounge onto an msnbc set? that's not exactly what i call portrait in courage. greg, you brought up "lockup." >> the highest rated show. >> over and over, that highlights the problem in this country, not just blacks but whites, breakdown in society, why not have a special on empowering blacks and bring in somebody like you, david, or somebody like you, juan. >> because it breaks their narrative. if you go in and tell them that this is an economic issue, it is an education issue, it is family or blended family units, whether it is mom and dad or mom and grandparents or whatever it is, which by the way, those are the things that help in any community, blended families, the good environment. if you break that narrative, this is why they -- you see. >> ride shotgun on this. >> i have to say i don't know who represents the african-american community. i couldn't tell you who represents the white community.

i do think that president obama's invitation of al sharpton to the white house is a signal and symbol that says they don't really care what we have to say here on "the five" or on fox news. the invitation was extended to al sharpton, to the fraudster, imagine if president obama had done something, amazing, invite sharpton and o'reilly together. at the white house. these two people, they're out there talking about it, let's bring them together, force them to the white house. that would have been -- that could have been a moment. instead it is a divisive one by inviting sharpton. >> sharpton is in the white house more than obama is lately. the fact is, it is time to get rid of the old and bring in the new. there are people speaking truths. after the trayvon martin, he was speaking uncomfortable truths

about the nature of black on black crime. he is the new. al sharpton is the old. >> this is what happens when somebody brings up the truth. here is don lemon. >> i gave advice to african americans about how, suggestions. one was the pull up your pants, stop dropping the "n" word like he and she. i said respect where you live, finish school and be an involved parent. if you plan for a kid, or stop having kids. that's advice my mother gave me in kindergarten. >> now, that constitutes according to critics airing dirty laundry, that's a charge against o'reilly and bill cosby. how is that airing dirty laundry, to me, that's helping people. those thing don lemon said, it is not just rhetoric. statistically, if you do those things, almost no chance you live in poverty in america. i wrote about this. >> for everybody watching, pay attention to this.

go out in life looking like a prospect, not a suspect. treat yourself with respect. realize that you have to operate in this environment. it is an american problem. if you do it and handle it from that point of view, i did it, others have done it. it is not a monolithic block. >> that's what greg has done with his life. >> he turned it around. >> if you could see what i looked like five years ago. >> you're nuts. >> that pink sweater. >> all right. >> white man. >> coming up next, fast food workers are pushing for higher wages, but any salary hikes may cost you at the cash register. and later, two stars on one of the hottest reality shows could be in serious trouble with the feds. they may be headed to a real jail cell. their alleged crime? possible punishment coming up on "the five." ♪

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♪ fast food workers are fed up. they're striking in seven cities across the country, demanding more pay. employees from mcdonald's, wendys, other chains want their wages doubled from federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour to 15 bucks. i understand why they are asking for this. a lot of people are saying, if you have the $1 menu, it only adds 17 cents, we deserve it, need a living wage. my problem is not that they don't deserve to have the potential to earn more money, it is that the false promise of

doubling minimum wage or making it $90 an hour won't help the situation of unemployment and helping people who are underemployed or look at teen unemployment in america, across the board, african-american youth, 31.9%, ages 16 to 24 don't even have jobs now. >> yeah. the consequences will be less people working because they won't hire as many people. this is how you break the unemployment ladder. intentional misunderstanding of fast food work. you replace upper mobility with downward stability. the first step on the ladder is not supposed to be comfortable. you're not supposed to be hanging out there. you double the salary, turn that rung into a hammock. you're supposed to be on the lowest rung and say god, i want to move up. only going to be here six months, three months. i am not supposed to stay here. double the salary. what you're saying, don't learn different skills, get comfortable, do it here, and what happens, it eliminates jobs

for other people. >> it seems when you have these fights, they seem like every other month there's a new target from unions against a corporation in america, last month or three weeks ago we talked about walmart, that was the target. now it is mcdonald's and other fast food restaurants. why is it they don't seem, unions, don't seem to be able to get past this gap of saying that there will be no impact on businesses? like there's an endless supply of money. >> remember what you said about president obama and al sharpton, they're not listening? the unions aren't listening. if you listen to the audio that was just played, what do we want, when do we want it. you hear this chant, whether it is sanford, florida marches, this is the union model. all they care about is membership and growing, and frankly, they're in the business of keeping you at a level where they can tell you they have everything you need, therefore you don't rise above on that economic ladder and they control you. it is not about your economy. it is about their economy and

the big guys. >> there was, juan, in the research, there was a young woman, she has four children, had the first when she was 17, four children, living on her own, living with family awhile, now rents a home. she works in the morning at mcdonald's, said if she were to get this increase, everything would be fine in her life. but that's -- what kind of false promise is that. >> she's under illusion, not everything will be fine in her life. again, it is putting pressure on corporations to deliver happiness for her. look, the argument in defense of them is i think it is said mcdonald's, 17% of profits or whatever goes to unemployment, salary, wages. it is not very much. it is the same argument against walmart. they have tremendous profits, pay relatively low wages. the idea is you can afford it, you can put in more. i will pick up on something greg says. you take away the first rung of

the ladder of upward mobility, you get job experience, build a resume. goes back to the first thing. this is how you get going in america, is it a secret? no, some people don't understand it. i am sensitive. i want a raise, everybody wants a raise. you have to understand where you get started in this country. >> and value for work. andrea, i could ask lots of questions, your dad started all the restaurants, you worked in the industry. let me open it up to you for your thoughts on this in general. >> it is going to hurt the mcdonald's owner. a lot of them are individually owned. the owner will say let's use the example of the woman you reference. she might not get the minimum wage increase, she may lose her job. as we talked about before, obama care is a lot of transient businesses like fast food will have to downgrade to part time status a lot of employees. >> she said she can't get more than 27 hours a week. >> this is what could happen, another unintended consequence.

they could get a couple hours of high pay, but i don't think she would be better off. can i say, what a sad commentary that in the obama economy we're sitting around the table talking about people begging for minimum wage increases. if the economy were strong, mcdonald's would be paying higher pages, they wouldn't be able to find people to do the jobs. they would have better jobs. >> the unions saturday, the head of aflcio said there would be a push, that the unions have new power. i think business in america, you can expect they're coming next to you. the answer is economic growth. mcdonald's in will i son, north dakota, where the boom is, one of the busiest, they need to pay $15 an hour to attract employees to work there. >> but you know what will be a savory solution, immigration. if they pass a bill, there's

going to be plenty of people that will take those jobs. >> it is a huge opportunity for republicans. i've always thought, you know, republicans missed an opportunity i think with the blue collar workers to reach out to them. they could instead of going to country clubs during the weekends on august break, talk to blue collar employees, ask about their jobs and ask how the immigration bill would effect it. >> talk to teenagers, immigrants, dropouts, talk to people that need the help. see what they think. >> i don't like talking to people. >> i know you don't. >> and guess what else we have to do? greg will take down the oil cartels in the middle east. don't go anywhere. i gotta go deposit a check, transfer some money. so it's your uncle's turn.

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♪ just penned an open letter that the fracking boom is cutting demand for saudi oil, threatening their livelihood, to which i add hooray. the less we rely on them, the better. if i see another with 30 mercedes-ben mercedes-benzs, i am going to choke. fracking ends 4 bucks a gallon gas, ends unemployment, check, ends reliance on parts of the world where people want to kill us, check. where is the president on this? busy building a windmill. and celebrities, dime onizing

fracking, ignoring the positive impact on americans. that's because people that fracking benefits most, yoko and rosie really don't care. obama should hail shale, instead sees them as their racist, gay hating christians. he never wanted independence and never wanted to ease at the gas pump. more pain and less consumption was always his goal. it is all screwed up from fracking. why isn't it called bigotry? working for an oil company just isn't as authentic as community organizing. one makes something people use, another just makes noise. so juan, isn't this a change we have been looking for? this is the change, the thing that solves all our problems. shouldn't obama be embracing it like a big, giant happy bear? >> yeah, if it had no problems, i would embrace it like a big happy bear myself.

but i would say if i lived near one, i would be worried about damage to wells, to the water supply. i think that's a legitimate concern. but they just had a study done and the study indicated it is pretty healthy, there's no problem. >> that has been debunked. >> dana came out, there are some parts had concern. >> there was one rogue employee, at the epa, said maybe something is a myth here with the water and dim rock. then the epa officials did an investigation, they said actually that's not true. the celebrities and folks like you mention and that president obama repeated their claims today about fracking and keystone pipeline is not the key to growth, it is really unfortunate. i don't think history will look kindly on them for having denied this opportunity to millions. >> i don't know about being denied the opportunity. >> sure. >> but i think going slow and cautiously, but what i'm seeing

is if you have the government saying you know what, i think they put like colors and dyes to make sure it didn't go. >> juan, i drank fracking fluid in a martini glass on the show to prove it was safe. >> i think you're going blue. >> that was a long time ago. now that the prince is awake and focused on this, i think he is going to raise the prices to maintain his internal commitment to the saudi family, it is expensive to keep up. >> by the way, he does own something like 17 or 18% of news corp., so he's really a great guy. >> over in this country, president obama drags his feet, the real key here, and fracking is really just sideways drilling, is to stop exporting cheap natural gas to china and importing dirty, expensive crude and getting our trucks here, which account for 70% of oil consumption, then on more natural gas type systems. that's the key. >> here is the reality to

fracking. it has been around over 75 years. the famous scene in the movie, where they're lighting water on fire, the grandfather was doing that. technology advanced, it is safer, it is not going to damage aquife aquifers, and in the end it is a farce by matt damon and the celebrities. >> would you call it fracking nonsense? >> i would call it that. yes. >> damon had interests with the -- >> they went to fracking university. frack you. >> enough of this, people. two of the biggest stars of real housewifes are in trouble, and dana is devastated. i think she has a thing for juicy joe. >> what? >> i didn't write the piece. i did not write the piece.

>> you have to read your piece. >> i don't. i just walk into this show. >> you're a liar. >> "the five" returns at some point. ♪

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♪ all right. it is one of the hottest shows on bravo, greg's favorite, real housewives is must see tv for millions. the show could be in jeopardy, two of the biggest stars could be headed to the slammer. in case you aren't familiar, i'll introduce you to teresa and joe giudice. >> [bleep]. >> you're disappointing our

family. >> i am? >> yes. >> shame on you. sticking with scum like you. >> apologize. oh oh! >> the lovely couple appeared in federal court today after being charged in a 39 count indictment that includes conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud, bank fraud, the list goes on and on. they were freed on $500,000 bond each. if convicted, they could face 30 years in jail and they're the parents of four young daughters. so while we sit around and giggle and millions watch this, greg, it really is a little depressing. i'm not a huge fan of new jersey, i like real housewives of orange county, beverly hills, miami, however, don't you think this is a tragedy? >> yes, they are america's royalty, the way we treat them is deeply offensive to me. i wouldn't wish this treatment on inmates of the new jersey prison to have to be with that

couple. what is it with bravo, you turn that on, it is like an iq removal machine. i watch an hour, i am as dumb as michael eric dyson. >> that's why people watch it. i watch it because it is relief from heavy stuff we talk about here, it is mindless, but -- >> i despise it. despise all of it. i was on an airplane, nothing else to watch, they were playing bravo, it was real housewives of atlanta, i thought when the end of the world is announced and there's a display in the afterlife of what led to the end of the world, it will be because of some of these reality shows. i love the talent shows. i think those are great. i cannot stand this. if looking for a great show for the family to watch, found a new one on bbc, doc martin. good, clean fun. >> all right. i guess i'm the only bravo tv fan million dollar listing, any bravo fans at this end of the table? >> i mean, come on.

look at these people for one thing, they're a joke. >> but they're making a lot of money. >> how do you afford $500,000 to bond yourself out of jail when you're broke and committed wire fraud? >> based on future appearances. these real housewife stars get $25,000, $50,000. she called it her career. >> you're betting on being able to pay it back. >> the woman called it her career. this is her career, being in reality tv. >> it is stupidity. >> people watch it, think our lives aren't so bad. >> it is shallow. >> very funny looking at somebody else's stuff. we were talking about dysfunction in black families, look at this. >> you watch this show, what is it, hour-long show. let me sum it up for you, that's an hour of your life you will never get back. >> what's great, they popularize

throwing wine in people's faces. >> i was doing that before they did that. come on. i still like my bravo television, not backing off bravo. it can be really -- we were making fun of it, susan the producer and i. >> jerry springer. this is basically -- >> we all have our vices. a reporter posted a racy tell all about her job and bosses, she was canned. did she deserve to be? up next. the great outdoors.... ...and a great deal. grrrr! ahhh! let's leave the deals to hotels.com. perfect! yep, and no angry bears. up to 40% off. only at hotels.com

♪ welcome back to "the five." a reporter for an abc affiliate in huntsville, alabama has just been fired over some revealing comments she made in a personal blog about her job. shay allen posts lists of ten confessions on friday, that included something i've done, going braless on the air, best sources were ones that had crushes on her, and much more. her station, waay ordered her to take it down, she did that. but after she reposted it, she

was fired. allen isn't happy about it, and here is her reaction. >> well, i was thinking i was being snarky and funny, it sounds cliché, i am in this business to make a difference, and my ability to do so has been taken away. >> i am thinking it wasn't a good idea to go out and tell people that, well, i don't know how to do my job, i don't take it seriously, and my station shouldn't worry about the fact that i just destroyed all their credibility now, dana. >> and she gets an interview on the "today" show. really, this is how you fail upwards. >> but is it upwards or -- >> it is like 15 minutes of fame. it was way too much information. you took my line. i was going to say i have two funny lines, one you stole, which is bob beckel goes braless all the time, it is really not a problem with that on the show.

anyway. >> we're going to leave that one alone. i'll go to the women first on this. let's go to andrea. >> dana finds that kind of sexist humor -- >> seriously, if you go out and damage your brand and your station's brand, shouldn't you be fired? >> yes, they had a conversation with her, and she took it down, and then she reposted it. so of course they should fire her, and she's also supposed to do the news, not make personal confessions about her undergarments. look, she will probably find a job at some blog that would love her -- she could correspond with some new york politician that loves dirty talk, that would be great. she said she wanted to make a difference. she admitted she doesn't like old people. >> i am in a family of a lot of

retirees, age aside. >> that's unbelievable! she says she's a reporter out to make a difference, says she's frightened of old people. wow. and she doesn't want to do stories about old people. >> not wearing a bra is really -- >> do old people scare you? >> no, i am quite attracted to them. this is a big point. if you think that reporters' biases don't influence the way news is, she says she's frightened of old people and refuses, refuses to do stories that include old people or places they reside. we live an culture now where old people are seen as throw aways, emphasis on youth. this is where it comes from. >> we've had a frackist, now we have an ageist. >> she said in this post she mastered the ability to contort her body in a position that makes her appear skinny ier in front of the camera.

>> no no no, don't call her, we don't want you playing that -- >> one more thing thankfully is up next. ♪ this day calls you.

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♪ it is time now for one more thing, starting with my frackish friend, mr. red eye, gregory. >> can we roll that? yes, it is greg's the bachelorette recap. it was devastating. it was part one of the finale. three dudes involved. she was really in love with brooks, that's the guy with the bad hair, tells her you know what, i have an itch behind my ear, then she starts crying some more. then he says i don't love you. then she says but i love you. he's like what am i having for dinner tonight. she's thinking will you ever love me, she cries some more. then he's like i can't wait to get back. maybe i'll hug her. then he hugs her. then his head gets weird and sweaty, and she cries. and that's the recap! >> wait, is that true? >> yes. >> what you just said? >> everything i said is true, he

dumped her, and she loved him. >> why are they hugging. >> because she's crying, he is trying to comfort her. do you know what he said after that, he said that was a lot harder than i thought. i love the bachelorette. >> delightful, dangerous, dana. >> i didn't have a one more thing. because greg -- it is july 30, he is wearing a pink sweater. here is the question. i believe american couples are having this confusion when they talk about air conditioning. if you say turn the air conditioning up, does that mean you want it warmer or colder. >> i assume colder. >> if you say turn it up. >> colder. >> i would say colder. >> that doesn't happen in my house. >> what happens? >> i thought everyone was having that problem. >> do you still live in the shelter? >> i think it is a good point. >> i have not had a very good

show. >> all right. david, your turn. >> all right, now i don't want to upset my top friends in vermont, i have to make that disclaimer because i'll be driving there, but apparently there's a study about alcohol effects and how they differ in men and women. have you ever been to vermont in the winter? there's nothing else to do but drink. >> you can ski. >> you can drink. apparently our moods differ. mine is my mood differs when i get the bill in the morning and bill at night and see how much i spent drinking, the woman's mood, i didn't pay for it, i am happy. therefore men are depressed, women are happy, and there's a hangover cure somewhere in a bloody mary. >> i lost that. >> andrea! >> is that why you're always in a bad mood, greg? >> slim jim, you're up. >> this is a love story of two elderly people that only a braless news bunny could hate. >> i love it already.

>> rachel mcadams, ryan gosling, a real life notebook story. they were high school suite hearts, celebrated their 75th wedding anniversary. she died july 16th. he died the next day. he said he could not live without her if anything happened to her. they spent every day together for 75 years. it is a real life love story, they have two sons. they say helen and les were best of friends and truly in love. i think it is cute. >> all right. compare our relationship on the show to that. you are a sick person. >> we have true love on "the five." all right. here we go. i want to say happy birthday to two very special people in my life, my granddaughters! heather and wesley, braless, in the buff, and the girls will be

one august 1st. >> i remember when they were just born. >> thanks for watching. thank you, dana. see you tomorrow. "special report" coming up next! president obama touts what he calls a new and improved grand bargain for jobs. republicans say one thing is new, a promise the administration made to businesses has apparently been thrown out the window. this is "special report." good evening, i'm bret baier. president obama dusted off and polished up an old plan for new spending and a tax code overhaul, and he is challenging republicans to step up to the plate. chief white house correspondent ed henry looks at new efforts to try to get to the still