one august 1st. >> i remember when they were just born. >> thanks for watching. thank you, dana. see you tomorrow. "special report" coming up next! welcome to "red eye," the girl with the drag on tattoo. >> is the federal government setting up a nudge squad with the goal of monitoring citizen's behavior? the shocking story that can only hasten the day of president obama's impeachment? plus, it is not 51 shades of gray. and finally, what is behind the city of detroit's bankruptcy? we'll sit down to talk about

that and other stuff straight ahead. >> thanks. >> you bet. >> see you soon. >> think he never leaves, let's welcome our guest, throw jonna spilbor party, don't act like you're not hot. >> funny. >> and he is so sharp he can chop wood with his teeth. encouraged him to play with matches in the street. and he once killed a guy with a hot dog, fyi hot dog is the name of his flame thrower. and current president of diligence, we don't know what it does, but when it does, someone die dies. >> the lede. that is the first story ah, who cares? >> all right, will push come to

shove at the hands of our gov? will fox.com report that they're handling an inside game that will look for ways to nudge people's behavior. the aim would be to subtling influence our habit to saving more for retirement to saving more in energy cost. to killing old people who have become a drain on society. i think i added that. anyway, description of the program notes behavioral sciences, notes to public policy, helping people to achieve their goals. but some economists are skeptical, with one pointing out "ultimately, nudging, assumes a small group of people in government know better about choices than the individuals making them. gently asking these cats to get dow

down. >> how many cats does andy have? it is just getting worse. get a girlfriend, levy, chris, welcome to the show. do you think nudging like this is necessary? can't we just let the natural forces of the economy affect the behavior? >> unless they take the natural forces out. so they say if anyone wants you to save money because you might need it some day, or not keep the ac on, if you removal that, the government says it is evil, capitalism and greed, but they say you know what? we'll get you to be responsible. it is a little creepy. misinformed, as one of the scientists called it. >> yes, misinformed, i like that word, baker.

he says it is creepy, as creepy as that tie you're wearing. >> creepy, can you imagine if this was under the bush administration? oh, my god, and i think it is referred to as nudging, as opposed to nudging. >> no, no, no, i had this discussion with andy, levy, who was jewish. it is nudging. >> doesn't matter, it is still creepy. again, because it is the current administration, you know, okay, it is fine. and it is actually good, a great way to become more efficient in government. i guarantee you if this came out in the previous administration, you know, the media would be horr horrorfied. >> you made that point. >> i don't want to be nudged, or nudged. bloomberg, we can't super size our sodas, even though legally,

people like me can't reach it. i know, even with these shoes. >> you can't reach the captain crunch, you go to a supermarket, you can't get the captain crunch. >> i need help to get the captain crunch. >> that is because you're usually drunk by the time you get to the supermarket. >> but i want captain crunch. >> and why aren't supermarkets open at 4 a.m. >> exactly, as if why do you always want captain crunch when you're drunk? you need to get the roof of your mouth serrated. you know why? because you're drunk and you can't feel anymore, bill, the government has been nudging you to kill yourself for the past three years, so maybe we have nothing to worry about. >> you're not going to get taxes if you're nudging me to die, government. >> this is another way of saying pr department, not saying they're not creepy. but i don't think it is that big of a deal.

my only problem is the word "nudge." it sounds like icky facebook talk, like i'm poking you, you didn't answer my poke, and you will like what i just did. it is all stupid on-line crap. >> talk about the extension of the campaign where they study individuals, who had the most scientific campaign, where they try to make you the most likely, from the subject of an e-mail, to respond. >> and it worked. >> i didn't hear that, did i hear something? by the way, they will never nudge you to vote against their interests. they will nudge you to keep them in power, and they will never nudge you to any kind of moral behavior, only what they consider to be politically expedient behavior. >> correct. >> i wonder -- >> well, you're going to find out shortly, all right, from

nudges to news, is he still at work as an on-line flirt? piece of dirt. in an interview, anthony weiner refused to flat out deny he is still sexting with women. asked, quote, there is no one you are sexting now? the mayoral candidate, yes, he still is, yes, you can still quote, but that was over a year ago. meanwhile, weiner has a new campaign ad. >> you know, sometimes people say to me this campaign is pretty rough. you may want to quit. i know that there are newspaper editors and other politicians saying boy, i wish that weiner would quit. they don't know new york, they don't know me. quit is not the way we roll in new york city. we fight through tough things. we are a tough city. there are people all around new york city who get up with a pretty tough day ahead of them and they don't quit. but it is really not about the campaign and the candidates and

this is not about me. if somebody wants to come up with something embarrassing about you in your private life, you got to talk about that. but if somebody wants to talk about something in their neighborhood, their school, that is what this campaign is all about. >> the reason they're not talking about it is because you showed your [ bleep ]! you're the problem, you moron, it is not because oh, we're distracted. you're the distraction. it is not hey, you know what i really want to do. i think i want to see some jerk's penis, no, you showed it to us! and now it is our fault? all right, finally his latest sexting partner is going into porn, seen taken for a ride. you know what else got taken for a ride?

it is not hamster jake or hamster mike. >> oh! >> no! >> it is like the camera -- she was feeling that. >> that was absolutely amazing. you know what? that erased my anger over weiner are. you should hire those hamsters and don't put them up your -- look at that, amazing. >> you know what is in that hamster's bowl right now? i'm just saying. >> i am just glad he is pulling the g's. weiner, very vague about whether he is sexting anyone, very vague. >> he is probably sexting somebody, he is very vague that way. but i have to take issue with

something, weiner did not show his junk. he showed sidney leathers who took that private information and made it public. but seriously, weiner might be a dork, but she is even worse. >> well, wait a minute, what am i saying? he did this after he claims he was going to rehab, and his wife is pregnant, and he did it again. it is -- and he is vague about it now. >> have you ever been around a pregnant person? it changes you. >> he was like that before. >> right after a reporter asked if he was actually physically -- he could have said no. he can't -- do it. >> that is not his thing. >> i disagree, it is like when you investigate a fraud, it is never the first time that fraud and that organization -- has been committed. admitting to this, i think it is

a little bit naive to think it is just the sexting. >> i actually think this is his way of combatting his infidelity. but it is creepy, he is stupid, putting it out to strangers. he is like flashing at a park. >> but i don't think strange rs should have the right, if you're sharing the photos, strangers should not have the right to dis disemmenate it. if you do it with a nonstranger, you shouldn't have the right to put it on line. >> the look on the person's face -- >> i don't see how they could in any way defend weiner, we're just so far disconnected from what we should expect from these

idiots that we put in office. he feels it is okay to put that ad out. >> he had that money, too. >> you know what will make you feel better? check your in-box right now. >> watch. the bad part. >> you know, you're right. the music was what made it. what a jerk. >> i don't know, all right, you know what he needs to do? he needs to think about his kid's legacy, his kid is going to be known as having a weird father. go to a place where people have the luxury of seeing his jenita genitals, just do something for five years, you don't need to be famous right now, do something to let your kid be proud of you. >> greg, they have cell phones in africa. >> all right, i'm wrong, from a weiner to a weenie, it looks

like manning was going to the can. he was found guilty of charges of espionage and theft. but not the most serious charges, the government argued the private had an evil intent and knew the information he gave to the wikileaks, information by al-qaeda. he simply wanted to start a debate on military and informed policy. oh, the old national conversation defense. manning could still face over 100 years in prison. meanwhile, this common thief goes unpunished. >> yeah, want to buy andy a cigarette. hey, baker? >> yeah. >> i can't remember what this guy did. i can't. he sent a picture of general petraeus's junk to --

>> no, seriously, it has been going on for so long i don't know. >> exactly. >> you know what? he caused a lot of damage, he released a lot of documents to talk about sources and individuals who about been aiding the government overseas. he actually got people killed. the charge of aiding and abetting will be hard to prove. basically, his defense team would be stupid to know you wouldn't get it to al-qaeda. but more importantly, he will spend a long time in jail. >> do you think he should spend a lot of time in jail? >> oh, definitely, they want to send a message, some of us thinks those who leak information to wikileaks, some of us think exactly the opposite, the judge will lock him up for a long time. >> what do you think, chris?

is he a hero, or a word that rhymes with hero? >> i think it would be rough to be with his cell mate. >> you know what? they don't, people still see him as a hero, they do. >> i know. military prison -- >> he is going to be doing meanwhi military hard time, it won't be easy -- >> like in the dirty dozen. >> yeah, but nobody as pretty as lee marvin. well, a lot of people say while they obviously agree they are not surprised it came up since you had nothing to do with the case. >> well, it stands to reason, because remember what the government said about me? that guy works with the government. this guy did something bad. and he is getting what he deserves. i am glad there was nothing brought up even remotely on the side of him getting the death penalty. he was clearly deserved. there were no checks and

balances while he made his journey, to find out why this guy should be surrounded by such information and maybe be court-martialed. the guy was having issues. >> that is a great point. >> that is an interesting point. >> i don't think he is mentally ill, but he was ticked off about something. and this is why i don't like the hero thing. this had something to do with the personality thing. >> i have been involved in a lot of counter-intelligence operations and looking at people betraying their country in horrible ways. and there tends to be a commonalty with some of these individuals. they feel as if they were not given the respect they needed. or that people didn't listen to them or they didn't get the hugs they wanted from their supervisors. and somehow, if their supervisor would just listen and everything would be better, but they didn't, i am smarter than they are, and they didn't see how smart i was. we don't want to think, that even with manning, this

ridiculous thing that went out there, i am bradley manning. >> he is going to get a lot of prison hugs. >> but we want to give them a sort of heroic image. but it is not, they're dysfunctional. and the people who commit these acts they tend to think they're smarter than everybody and they're just satisfied with the way they're life is going. >> you know, you're really upset right now, you should check your in h in-box. >> i think it will change your mood a little bit. >> very little, i might add. and emphasis on add -- >> you know what? he has overcome a lot. i don't know what i'm saying. coming up, the dow falling 1.3, in a see-saw measure, they can split the consumer confidence. we're not doing that story.

>> what is the most popular book at gitmo? spoiler alert? your face.

the roughest of the rough now want to be cuffed. last week, guantanamo bay military officials told a congressional delegation that the favorite read of detainees was none other than "50 shades of gray." and they have a soft spot for romance-flavored books.

they told them rather than the koran, the book was 50 shades of grade. they read the entire series in english, i guess these guys are going nowhere, so what the hell. that is the medical diagnosis. at gitmo's library, the reading is often screened. meanwhile, their favorite movies to watch are action adventure, like "the bird feeder," starring alec baldwin. >> i knew it was going to be worth the wait.

oh, he died. >> stop it. >> actually not only that, he runs a bed and breakfast in vermont. >> with me. >> you always wanted to live with a bear. >> a bear with a bad back. exactly. have you read "50 shades of gra gray"? and if so what about it appeals to you and the detainees? >> well, i haven't read it, but they are not getting any. and if they're going to read this book, they're going to get all worked up and have something to do. >> well, i don't know about that, baker, the military refused to speak of it except in the most generic of ways. what is going on? >> first of all, i think you're lying. i think you at least skimmed the book. >> i skimmed it. the first three pages.

>> by the way, let me ask a follow-up question. living embodiment, i don't know what is going on, but if it helps them pass the time of day, that is great. >> so it should be available? >> sure, of course. think about the pre-9/11, what we have learned about the activities of the hijackers. it was pretty bawdy stuff. and so the fact that these guys are reading a little bit of the incredibly poorly written bondage stuff, as long as they don't get away and go back to the country that is going to let them do this all again. >> well, chris, do you think this could be sexy bondage novel? turns out i guess, the only things we did learn, they're no

they are. >> no, to kill a mocking bird. have you read 50 shades of gray? >> i bought it, but hid it. i can't find it. it will eventually turn up, and it will be awkward for everybody there. >> you know, "50 shades of gray" sounds like a product you could sell for your hair. >> bill, you have applied for a rent-controlled studio at gitmo. any updates? >> not lately, but i finished my book, 50 shades of yay, which is me, the publisher. i like the fact they offered to translate, and the guy said no. that makes sense, if you are reading it, you want to read it in the mother tongue. and if you're reading words like love pup and hot, throbbing rod,

you want to do it in a way it is intended, and that can't be on arabic. >> by the way, one of my names in the agency was hot throbbing rod, i just wanted to point that out. >> can't even do serious discussions. >> i had some time during the commercial break. >> you know what? i'm going to break you in the commercial, coming up, does life really exist on mars? mike baker discussed his new book, i once killed a martian. asked the true fans to help write the questions. thanks, mr. dobb.

>> it's a rapper who is not much of a rapper. but he is not much of a rapper at all, but he sure gets the celebrity spots. every time i hear him on the phone, he is just one ranking above suck. >> that was a clip from the brand-new show, great, premiered on "the view" last week. for over 20 years, they have made millions performing for their freakishly loyal fan base.

august 7th marks the beginning of their annual gigolos festival, which is an amazing, amazing event, i'm thinking of taking my mom. please join me, good to have you guys here. >> thank you very much. it is an honor to be here, brother. >> it is an honor to have you here. this is like the blending of two worlds. >> you talking about us and baker? >> okay, tell me what to expect from the new show first, because i'm excited. >> brutal honesty. yeah, when people suck, we're going to let them know they suck, we're not going to dance around it. we don't care about hurting feelings, we're stepping on feelings and squishing them out. you know what i'm saying? >> but at the same time, if something is good, we're as quick to give it its proper due, we're not out there just to hate everything. >> everything we say is real, 100% factual.

we did our studies, everything we say is 100% fact. >> that is why we believe, even if you're not into this band, their tactics or whatever, people will recognize it. they may find themselves saying you know what? i find i don't like them but i do agree with them. because they spend the truth proudly. >> the truth goes down inside you, the opposite of "red eye." we have no research whatsoever, we do no homework. i'm intrigued. you're not a group, you're actually a following. you have this massive, intense fan base that will basically follow you anywhere. you have the gathering every year, what is it that makes you guys different and touches so much people in a perverse way? >> i'm not exactly sure what the hell that is. because honestly, we've always

-- in the beginning, we just thought we were a rap group, hip-hop group, two-line crew had rappers, what made us different, in rock and roll history, alice cooper, what made them different. so we didn't think we were that different. so after years and years of neither side wanting to claim us, we kind of fell into this nether void of nothingness where we claimed our own zone, but it is hard to be that different. because sometimes we accomplish something, you know something proud and big, and everybody says they don't count. that is icp, they don't count. so even though we sold millions of records, if you pick up an en encyclopedia, you wouldn't see us in the i's, all we want to do

is have people be able to count. to say you know, they exist, too, they're part of the industry. >> but does that really matter to you? >> well, it does piss us off. because we're real people. we want to know -- we're just there, our intention is there, our punches can be felt, as well. our voice is to be heard. you know what i'm saying? we want to be heard. >> i think it is a class thing, because people who are rock critics are elitist college g grads. >> and failed musicians. >> by the way, when they go to a bar, they say they're a rock critic, and also in a band. and the woman is usually dissatisfied, they end up having sex with the person in the rock band. >> but of course.

>> rock critics never have stds though, that is the upside. >> you can't get stds from your hand, not unless -- >> unless you work for "rolling stone". >> or bill. >> they're infected with stds. listen, talk about your fans, i'm infatuated. the fbi designated them as a gang. did you guys do -- >> definitely, you think about the fbi coming down and saying that we're a gang, once again, you know, we don't count. you know what i'm saying? we don't count. and that sucks, man, people fear what they don't understand. and they see 10,000 people gathering in the woods, literally in the middle of nowhere and they say well, it is for icp so it is not about music. but it must be good something, it must be a gang rally, you know what i mean? >> clearly, your fan base was actually declared by the bureau

as a gang? >> they said fbi, not cia. >> well, here is where it affects people is when you know, let's say you're wearing a hat that stands for something, you know what i mean? and you get pulled over or you have this tattoo on your arm. next thing you know, you're filed as a gang member, and a little year later you get popped for a bag of weed. you don't get sentenced as a pe sentenced as a gang member. or let's say you go to join the military, you get tattooed on your arm. next thing you know, you get punished for listening to icp. >> we had a case where people get probation and parole violations for having a tattoo. you know what i'm saying? >> or people -- their wife or whoever's attorney brings up the fact that they're a gang member. they're not a gang member,

they're just a lover of music. >> they're like a -- >> i have a judy garland tattoo all over my back, and i have never had a problem. >> this is a miracle. >> hey, the problem as you get older the judy garland tattoo turns into ethel merman. >> i want to take a quick break, and i'll be right back for part two.

>> we're back with charles krauthammer, no, i'm kidding, we thought we were the first show to have you guys on. turns out we were wrong, that you guys were actually on "the o'reilly factor" in 2002? >> you said yesterday -- did you drop your testicles yet to a

12-year-old? >> right. show me the neighborhood where a 12-year-old kid doesn't know what a pair of balls are yet. what neighborhood, what fantasy are you living in where you think your 12-year-old kids are living in? >> i know, but what good does it do for a 12-year-old hear you say that to him? >> do you remember that at all? >> i remember that perm. >> who aged better? >> i think he aged better than bill o'reilly. >> it was a lumberjack -- >> i want to show one other clip. this is from the video you guys did, the rock video, that just took off. can we roll a little bit of that? >> niagra falls and the pyramid ♪ everything you believed in as kids ♪ >> enough miracles here to blow

your brains ♪ >> tried to eat my cell phone. he ran away ♪ >> do you expect the kind of response? >> no. >> it happened pretty fast. >> yeah. that was just speaking through the hurt, which actually -- we've always had softer tunes on our album from day one, we just never made a video for it. but everybody saw that, and the only thing is, in the '90s, you know it was -- only our die hardest fans had ever seen our videos or anything like that. but today, technology, the way youtube is, everybody can look through the glass walls and see us. so that is why more people are discovering us more. and seems like we're around and people are talking about us more. and we haven't changed anything. it is just that the world can see us now, much more than they could in the '90s. and the miracle, that is nothing new to our format.

sometimes we're brutal and we're mad. that is when we're talking to the world. and sometimes we're talking where things appear much softer. >> i was going to say, the point to bill o'reilly, in the clip. i got three boys, all they do is talk about their nut. >> what comes out their ass and their nuts. >> exactly, there is nothing else to talk about. >> and that is the one thing you can create on your own. >> that is the funniest thing ever, the ass making a noise. >> i'm still amazed that the whole -- i just wanted to point that out. >> exactly. >> there are so many elements to this phenomenon. lake hepatitis. why is it called lake hepatitis? this is part of the gathering in

illinois. >> does it need to be explained? >> assuming there is hepatitis in the lake, you know -- nobody else actually got a person out there to check it out. but assuming the dead fish and the floating swamp-like creatures that don't even exist on any iguana list. we would assume that there is hepatitis among plenty of other -- >> something floating up in there. >> okay, one last question, the drug bridge. i assume that is where you can buy over-the-counter things? >> allegedly. >> yes. >> cough drops, q-tips. >> alka seltzer. >> and when is the next one? >> the next one is august 7th through 11th, coming up right around the corner. and with the gathering, the real freedom is the beauty, to be with each other.

it is not easy to be in icp. we're the most hated band in the world. to be a fan of this bag is not easy, you don't wave that flag around and get props for it. hey, i love icp! >> good for you guys. >> it is tough, but when you come together with 10,000 other jugolos, you create this feeling of euphoria, but you're not alone, you have something in common with all of these people. even if you're not a jugolo, you get this comraderie, it will probably be misunderstood. it is just our gem, we don't want it to blow up and start to have hundreds of thousands of people there. it wouldn't be anything like it is if the masses came in.

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>> we return, for the post game report, hey, andy. >> hey, that clown posse you had on, kind of insane? >> i think they are. >> is that why they're called insane? >> i think their earlier motto was mildly amusing, but you realize, no, they're insane. >> and one of the brothers is jermane clown posse. >> very nice, that was an impressive segment. >> thank you, andy. >> yeah, you're welcome. government nudged squad, i also think it should be nudged, it

sounds less threatening and i think that is what the obama administration should have gone with. >> i think the problem is, people spell it like nudge, and it should be noodge. >> so there could be no mistaking it. >> i could really go for a noodge browny. >> or i love ted nudge. you scall this creepy and -- th problem is you get nervous, you get these people thinking they're the smart ones, deciding what the simpletons in the general public, what they should be doing, what is best for them. >> it should be already required. you should have to take care of yourself, and you shouldn't have

to demand people like this. or nudge them or noodge them. >> you see, it is not noodge. johnny, you brought up bloomberg and the sugary drink ban, see bloomberg, he doesn't just nudge, he wants legal enforcement. >> but it doesn't work, he subtlie iny nudges us, now it i our head. >> see i don't trust these people, because they start off nudging, and if people are not smart enough, they suddenly become nudged. >> i are not going to move, will you? >> greg, i don't agree with your assertion that they won't nudge you to be moral. >> the difference is what they think is actually moral is not actually moral. >> but i think they do use it as a moral. >> yes, in their mind, it is moral, but it is not moral, but

in my mind, i'm right and you're wrong. >> weiner campaign video. look, he is an awful human being, the cheating and sexting on his wife, which is what he did, whether he realizes it or not. for him to act self-righteous, and acting like the people of new york want him to be mayor, go to hell, i'm sick of talking about him. he is a waste of oxygen, and we should just stop. >> i have e-mailed him, i think once or twice, got polite responses from whatever his left of his staff. and -- >> well, we've seen pictures of that. thank you very much. >> yes, ladies and gentlemen, we'll never get enough of those jokes. oh, great. >> we got to stop talking about him, man. >> i am actually at the point where i want to stop talking

about him, but i need to get him out of this city. >> you said sidney leathers should get out. but shouldn't have the right -- >> no, you should not have the right. if he sends pictures of his junk, it should be illegal for mike to disseminate that. >> look, i could be crazy here, i'm not a lawyer, there could be a first amendment issue. >> what she is talking about sounds like a moral nudge o--. >> bradley manning found not guilty of aiding the enemy. mike, you said he did a lot of damage that got people killed. i am not sure of the second part of it. where it was proven he got people killed. >> yeah, he did. >> no, it is part of the problem, the intel community doesn't go out there and defend

itself and talk about it for very good reason. and they got to do it. but every now and then you have to make the point there are consequences out there. people putting their lives at risk, for a variety of reasons, some good, some bad. and when it is disclosed, good things don't happen. they lose their lives. and i've seen this, but we're not going to go into detail about it as a community because you're protecting sources and other methods and issues going on. so you left kind of saying, the other side goes well, just tell us, give us specifics. fricking moron. i do agree with you, mike, aiding the enemy would be tough to prove. they probably shouldn't have even charged him with that, it is a loser case, but it is ridiculous to think that manning was naive, saying i didn't think when i put them out there on the internet that al-qaeda could see

them. >> he is a moron, but not completely stupid. >> well, greg, i hope you were paying attention when he talked about the losers saying they were not appreciated by their bosses. >> believe me, i'm not worried about you. we have a much worse leaker on our staff. >> hey, greg, check your in-box. >> 50 shades of gray, the most popular book at gitmo, i have to ask you, does this not have the sound of having a little bit of sci-ops going on here -- >> well, in terms of reporting it of course in terms of people being sanctimonious, it is correct, but there is a little bit of the sci-ops, in jim coming back and talking about it, and oh, this is funny. >> how did you know that it was

poorly written bondage. >> thank you, andy, i have to go to the bathroom, i can barely control myself, that does it for me. i'm leaving.

tomorrow night and then we will all watch this together. >> bill: the o'reilly factor is on. tonight: >> mr. o'reilly, i would love that have that conversation about protecting yourself behind white picket fences. you were surprised that black people don't throw bananas at each other or swing for trees. >> the grievance industry guess more desperate as nancy pelosi takes up their cause in the house. we will report on this very troubling situation ♪ >> bill: lawsuit against "american idol" by 10 black contestants charging racism. they each want $25 million. is it legal will analyze that also a surprise in the bradley manning verdict. >> i screwed up big time. but i think the only thing i ask om